The Big Switch - Part 1 (September 1995)
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- KCNC 30 minute special on the 1995 Denver network affiliation switch. Part 1 of 3.
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Probably one of the best and most honest explanations of an affiliation switch and the process of affiliation.
6:28 - Did not mention presence of WMGM-TV (channel 40) in Atlantic City - which was affiliated with NBC at the time that the deal was reached. NBC disaffiliated from channel 40 in December 2014 due to it partly duplicating WCAU.
@@SigmaRho2922 Now WMGM-TV 40 is a True Crime Network affiliate owned by Univision Communications, Inc.
Today, there are some television markets with two or more ABC affiliates:
Boston, Massachusetts/Manchester, New Hampshire: WCVB-TV 5 and WMUR-TV 9
Tampa, Florida/Sarasota, Florida: WFTS-TV 28 "ABC Action News" and WWSB 40/cable 7
Grand Rapids, Michigan/Kalamazoo, Michigan: WZZM 13 and WOTV 41/cable 4
Springfield, Illinois/Champaign, Illinois: WICS 20 and WICD 15
Kansas City, Missouri/St. Joseph, Missouri: KMBC-TV 9 and KQTV 2
Lincoln, Neberaska and Central/Southwest Nebraska: KOLN-TV 9 and KHGI-TV 13/KWNB-TV 6 "ABC NTA"
@@Justin-Hill-1987 Kansas City and St Joseph are two separate markets.
@@SigmaRho2922 While WMGM is technically part of the Philly market, the station did not market itself as such
ch40 billed itself as the NBC station in the NJ area, which had no dedicated market because of overlap with New York and Philly
“But that new partnership created “musical stations” in Philadelphia.”
At the time of the switch Philadelphia had two NBC affiliates: KYW (channel 3) in Philadelphia proper and WMGM (channel 40) in Atlantic City. WMGM remained affiliated with NBC after that network assumed control of WCAU (channel 10), but lost its affiliation with NBC on 12/31/2014.
That turned into a decade of ratings success and the dethroning of the then-Phoenix news leader-the one that lost its affiliation.
I know. They weren't BSing anyone here.
It reminded me of a special from WMAR posted a while back regarding the big switch in Baltimore. The reason they gave for the switch: That ABC was looking for a station that "fit" best", completely ignoring the Scripps deal with ABC and the fact if ABC did care about a "fit", they would have stayed with WJZ. What a load of crap. It's a little late for praise, but KCNC still deserves kudos for this special.
What an awesome way to educate us on the switch than a KCNC Special. Originating with FOX's desire for a sports division, starting specifically with NFL football, the sequence of events ended in Philadelphia. NBC wanted to buy WCAU from CBS, thinking the peacock would keep KCNC, KUTV and the Channel 4 frequency in Miami. Instead, for tax reasons, CBS highly suggested NBC trade its properties for Channel 10 in Philly. This transaction also led to the alteration of WCIX to WFOR in Miami. As a result, KYW 3, a former NBC affiliate owned by Group W, assumed the position of CBS O&O in Philadelphia. Colorado television indeed changed forever after that mess with WCAU/KYW.
I grew up on the fringe of New York and Philly sports league footprints in Monroe Township, NJ. We were lucky that the Must Carry law at the time required Storer Cable and then later Comcast to carry both NYC and Philly sets of locals. Great for NFL season because we'd always get one extra game that a lot of cities would dream of having.
Then WNBC complained that ad revenue was being lost so we had both locals for ABC, Fox and CBS, but not NBC.
And then this switch happened and we got WCAU back.
Watching this at the end of 2022, I conclude the following: "Same old wine, more aptly 'whine,' in a different bottle."
I’ve watched this at least 100 times
This is when KCNC dominated the morning, noon & early evening newscasts, after the switch from NBC to CBS it went by the wayside, until just the last year or so when KCNC has been picking up in the ratings again for a very close 2nd behind KUSA.
“The network absolutely had to make sure that people in a major city like Philadelphia would be able to see NBC programming.”
Baltimore, MD when through the big switch twice. The first time was 1981 when WMAR-TV (CBS) and WBAL (NBC) switched. Then in 1995, "the big switch") WMAR got ABC, WJZ got CBS and WBAL took back NBC. The big switch in 1995 was a game-changer. It involved big markets. Philly, Boston, Denver, Miami/Fort Lauderdale, Minneapolis/St. Paul
Fun fact: Baltimore, Maryland was my childhood state
This also affected Providence, where WPRI was bought by CBS in March 1995 while WLNE was still affiliated with CBS. The two stations swapped affiliations the day KCNC switched to CBS, causing WLNE to return to ABC. WPRI was forced to be sold when Westinghouse finalized its acquisition with CBS in November 1995 due to signal overlap with WBZ.
I remember both of those switches! (1/30/2022)
"AndthestationthatusedtobeNBC-well, it doesn't change at all." XD
KPNX retained its affiliation due to a deal between Gannett and NBC at the time where WXIA was courted for the CBS affiliation to replace WAGA-TV (channel 5), which had been involved in the Fox-New World deal. In response, WGNX (channel 46, later WGCL) secured the CBS affiliation. The Gannett deal caused the affiliation switch in Denver.
"The station that was CBS was bought by a company partly owned by Fox, so CBS defected to an independent station, leaving the first one without any network for a while. ABC cut a deal to move to the station that's now Fox; some of the ABC programs have moved already, some did not. But the station that used to be CBS would wind up being Fox; the one that used to be ABC would wind up without network programs; the one used to be NBC... uh... doesn't change at all."
The same great local news team you always loved comes with just about any local network affiliate switch, except if you lose that news team when the station switches to a WB affiliate in a small market (like Jacksonville, Florida, for example) after the original network affiliate gets a better deal with another local station nearby. What usually changes during these switches is the network programming and network logo/graphics in most cases with little to no changes in the local or syndicated programs that are carried on the local network schedule.
When WJXX signed on as an ABC affiliate it looked promising. The station never recovered from its rushed signon and was sold in late 1999.
You know what else back then? Back in January 1995 The WB and UPN launched on both KWGN-TV and KTVD in Denver, Colorado. That's 7 whole months before the big 3 affiliates (ABC, CBS, and NBC) in Denver were switching channels 4, 7 and 9.
It happened here in Maryland
Channel 11 to NBC
Channel 13 to CBS
Channel 2 to ABC
Washington & Salisbury stayed the same.
Our station switched Jan 2,1995
Baltimore experienced two network switches; the last one in 1995 involved three of our TV stations (WBAL, WJZ, and WMAR). It's not that much of a big deal now. After all, 27 years have gone by since "The Big Switch." We're used to it! (Side note: This year is WMAR's 75th anniversary). (1/30/2022)
The "musical stations" game in Phoenix, Arizona:
KTVK 3, the former ABC affiliate switched to The WB for a very short time in 1995 before eventually becoming an Independent affiliate.
KPHO-TV 5, the former Independent affiliate becomes CBS.
KTSP-TV 10, the former CBS affiliate, becomes Independent before becoming KSAZ-TV 10, a FOX affiliate.
KPNX 12, the NBC affiliate did not change at all.
KNXV 15, the former Fox affiliate, becomes Independent before becoming an ABC affiliate.
@@erikpridemore3174 9/12/94 - KSAZ's CBS programs move to KPHO, leaving KSAZ as an independent station.
12/15/94 - KNXV's Fox programming moved to KSAZ; ABC daytime and Saturday morning programs move from KTVK to KNXV.
1/9/95 - Rest of ABC programming moves to KNXV; KTVK affiliates with WB on 1/14/95 (airing the network's programming on Saturdays and Sundays before moving to KASW (channel 61) on 9/22/95).
@@SigmaRho2922 The Phoenix Metro Area was involved in a tangled web of affiliation switches, that's for sure...
I remember seeing that affiliate shakeup in the Phoenix area. I was a little kid back then, but all I knew at the time was that the networks weren't where they were supposed to be. Later on, I found out why it happened.
The WSJV ABC to Fox change caused a ripple effect in another market: Rockford, Illinois. NBC was forced off of WTVO in that switch in retaliation.
Denver's affiliation switches were the polar opposite of Baltimore's.
WJZ-TV 13's affiliation switch is KMGH-TV 7's switch backwards. (ABC to CBS vs. CBS to ABC)
WBAL-TV 11's affiliation switch is KCNC-TV 4's switch backwards. (CBS to NBC vs. NBC to CBS)
WMAR-TV 2's affiliation switch is KUSA-TV 9's switch backwards. (NBC to ABC vs. ABC to NBC)
An similar how Philippines Networks to be changes in the U.S. like in Denver, CO:
KCNC: ABS-CBN to GMA
KMGH: GMA to IBC
KUSA: IBC to ABS-CBN
@@entertain1048 Lemme guess: Those are the original Big Three of Philippine Television.
Aired on September 9, 1995 before the switch is take placed similar to Tampa Bay area also have special coverage for previewing 1996 Atlanta Olympics which went to KUSA after the switch is taken.
KCNC-TV 4 is still owned by CBS.
KMGH-TV 7 is now owned by E.W. Scripps.
KUSA-TV 9 is now owned by Tegna.
“One of those new partnerships was a joint venture between CBS and Group W, the broadcasting division of Westinghouse.”
Ultimately CBS bought Group W as a whole and absorbed all of its' local stations as CBS O&O's (with the usual scramble)...
(Summary of 4:43)
PHX CH#: *3-5-10-15*
Pre-9/1995: ABC-IND-CBS-FOX
Post-9/1995: IND-CBS-FOX-ABC
The worse part that it took months for the switch to be completed
"The station that was CBS (KSAZ 10) was bought by a company partly owned by Fox (New World Communications), so CBS defected to an independent station (KPHO 5), leaving the first one (KSAZ) without any network for a while. ABC cut a deal to move to the station that's now Fox (KNXV 15); some of the ABC programs have moved already, some have not. But the station that used to be CBS (KSAZ) would wind up being Fox; the one that used to be ABC (KTVK 3) would wind up without network programs; the one used to be NBC (KPNX 12)... uh... doesn't change at all."
@boutitbenza699 They didn't CHOOSE to be Fox...Fox chose New World Communications (owners of KDFW, KTBC, KTVI, KSAZ, etc. among others) because it had a lot of major NFC markets in its portfolio. It also happened to have some other stations in its portfolio.
After that happened, CBS was begging Scripps' WXYZ and WEWS. KNXV and WFTS, former Fox affiliates, had lost affiliations to New World stations. Scripps gave all but two stations an ABC affiliation to keep their future secure. (cont'd)
“When it became clear that KCNC-TV would change, the other networks took another look at Denver, and switched their affiliations here.....
KCNC wins the best switch special as some poeple say. As i can see, they really do
I wonder why they couldn't up power WMGM-TV Atlantic City/ Wildwood to get the same coverage as they had with Philadelphia NBC
Some of the old Fox O & O's, like KDVR in Denver, have also been sold to Local TV, LLC which is a group headed by Randy Michaels, who used to co-run Clear Channel/Jacor.
If I had my own TV affiliate, It’ll be CBS
When WSJV 28 of South Bend, Indiana switched from ABC to FOX, ABC moved to WBND 58.
The switch created a ripple effect that stretched to another Quincy Newspapers-owned TV station in another secondary Chicago Bears football market: WREX-TV 13, an ABC affiliate in Rockford, Illinois. The ABC affiliation moved to WTVO 17, a move made by ABC in retaliation for forcing WSJV of Southben to switch in South Bend from ABC to FOX, causing the ABC affiliation to defect to a low-power station on channel 58. WREX-TV 13 then made the switch to NBC.
Justin Hill WBND did not sign on until 10/18/95; prior to that, the network’s programs were only available on cable via WFLD, WFFT, or WXMI, all of which were receivable over the air in some portions of the market.
“To make sure that it didn’t lose millions of viewers in Philly, NBC offered to buy CBS’s station there, but CBS said, for tax reasons, we prefer to trade.”
That’s the Tisch era for you.
In 1995, if you had cable, was the owned-and-operated stations available from either New York or Los Angeles or NBC, CBS and ABC? For example, in Sacramento you have KCRA NBC but if you have satellite DirecTV you can also get KNBC from LA. This means if KCRA decided to switch, you could still watch NBC o&o station, in case there was any big changes in program line up.
John King Yep. I also have the O&Os and affiliates from Detroit.
@@rileysmith9843 Hi. Is that common on most cable platforms you think?
John King It is common, but certain local cable systems carry only local channels.
@@rileysmith9843 That what I was thinking too. I know DirecTV offer on satellite O&O stations which is great to have, especially if your affiliate decides to drop or move programs.
John King Great to have, because I’m in an area between the Detroit/Flint markets, and get Detroit and Flint stations along with network O&Os.
The domino effect that led to all these affiliation swaps and ownership changes started in late 1994, and ended on that September day in 1995.
Nope. It started in April 1994 in Monroe-El Dorado when KARD became a Fox affiliate, and it ended in February 1997.
I remember this shit happening when i was a kid.
1995 was the year of the big switch, yes I remember it very well.
i was born way later than 95 i was born in 09 Plus here in bakersfield it was only KERO and KBAK cbs and abc
...and some of your NBC equipment in Miami.”
They should do “The Big Switch 2.0.”
On January 1, 2017, WHDH-TV Channel 7 in Boston became an Independent Station, when it ceased its affiliation with NBC, as WBTS-LD launched its own NBC station at 3:00 AM Eastern Time, owned by its NBCUniversal Subsidiary. This happening spelled the end of WHDH-TV's 22 year affiliation with NBC and Ed Ansin's Sunbeam Television, which makes sister station WSVN 7 IN Miami and Fort Lauderdale, the Fox affiliation for South Florida not owned by Fox.
6:20 that double CBS logo looks so creepy
A bit of a time frame problem..."some have moved already, some have not". That situation was reality...one year prior.
@raymieX Along the way, Meredith's WNEM-5 Flint flipped to CBS in case CBS had Detroit problems (and KPHO went in too on that deal), so Phoenix is the way it is today.
Two TV markets, the old (and good) status quo, and public service sensibilities were lost as the result of this big switch. And what a shame the ensuing 15, 16 years have been since.
“We’ll give you 1 Philadelphia station, yes, but, in exchange, we want your NBC station, KCNC-TV in Denver, your NBC station in Salt Lake City...
I know this is really late, but the Mormons own KSL-TV in Salt Lake City.
they were Refering to KUTV
“There, CBS already owned a station, airing CBS programs, and Group W already owned a station, which would soon switch to CBS programs.”
@boutitbenza699 (cont'd 4) In Birmingham, Allbritton got the ABC (which had been abandoned by a Fox-flipped WBRC-6) but the former Foxers weren't Allbritton's. It needed to be rated in Birmingham (so it got WBMA-LP) but needed coverage (so it got former CBSers WCFT-33 Tuscaloosa and WJSU-40 Anniston, formerly in separate markets until after this happened on board). Thus came today's ABC 33/40. WBMG/WIAT finally became the only CBS affiliate in the market which helped them out. That's all for me.
The affiliation switch created two new CBS affiliates in the Atlanta Metro Area:
WNEG-TV 32, Toccoa, Georgia, formerly an Independent station, became CBS. (The station is now WGTA 32, the MeTV affiliate for Atlanta)
WGNX 46, Atlanta, Georgia, formerly an Independent station, also became CBS. (The station is still CBS, still on the air, but is now known as WGCL-TV 46)
WNEG-TV 32 switched from being an Independent station to a CBS affiliation, because the signal for Atlanta's channel 46 was inaccessible from Toccoa and the rest of Northeast Georgia. Some of that station's news resources came from WSPA-TV 7, in the neighboring Spartanville, South Carolina market.
“As a result, 3 Group W stations in Boston, Baltimore and Philadelphia would now broadcast CBS programs.”
Two of those you may know if you've watched YT videos on broadcasters issues... KYW-3 (3rd oldest commercially licensed TV station in US) in Philly and WBZ-4 in Boston (both being 2 of the slightly unusual 3 letter station call names).
syxepop In the spring of 1995 WPRI (channel 12) in Providence was sold to CBS, making it one of the last purchases prior to Westinghouse’s acquisition. When the acquisition was finalized in November of that year WPRI has to be sold due to FCC rules regarding overlap between WBZ and WPRI. The latter station was affiliated with ABC at the time of the purchase; WLNE (channel 6) affiliated with ABC on the same day that the Denver affiliation switches took place.
It wasn't just Colorado that had to make the affiliation switch. In fact KTVT became CBS in 1995 as well. Fox 33 in Dallas became WB and I'm not sure what Channel 4 in Dallas was but you know they happen from time to time. The only affiliation switch we had in Abilene TX took place in late 2000 early 2001 when KIDZ previously a FOX channel became an affiliate of UPN and Fox got a new channel in return as well as a new call sign KXVA. The rest of the channels stayed the same.
Philly, you know, WMGM-TV was there the whole time, NBC should've bought that station and it would be an O&O and would still be NBC today.
NESTLEH But its transmitter is near Atlantic City, NJ and WCAU's transmitter is with the others in Roxaborough.
@@davidvelazquez9473 They could've at least made WMGM into a repeater for WNBC.
I remember that video, I was shaking my head at that one. WBZ in Boston also gave a crappy explanation for their part of the switch, their GM Deb Zeyen said something along the lines that Westinghouse was looking for an entertainment partner and CBS was the most receptive, which we all know is a load of crap. I don't know if that video was deleted but I couldn't find it for reference.
Just search for "WCVB network changes" here. And oh, WCVB wasn't affected by the switch, they ran a report on the switch, with that interview from Deb Zeyen you were talking about. Hope this helps.
Wherever Westinghouse had an NBC station, and there were several, they went to CBS. The Philly and Denver deals were a mess, but also in Boston and Baltimore, and also involved radio stations. Then Fox started buying more stations through New World and caused more chaos, with the older networks forced to UHF stations nationwide. CBS moved to 46 in Atlanta, 62 in Detroit, for example. NBC went to 41 in Kansas City.
Fox went to 28 in South Bend, while ABC went to W58BT (today WBND), which caused a ripple effect in Rockford, Illinois, where ABC was forced off of WREX.
That was exactly what Bill Stuart meant when he said all these network affiliation changes to different TV stations set off a domino effect.
Even Toledo, Ohio didn’t escape, because WTVG was bought by ABC, thus, leaving WNWO with NBC. But today, times are different. ABC no longer owns WTVG.
I wanted these affiliations to switch them back to normal when it was the 1950s.
They will.
In 2014 KDUH TV(ABC)Scottsbluff is now NBC Nebraska KNEP TV
in Green Bay, both WGBA-TV 26 and WLUK-TV 11 switched affiliates in August 1995, WGBA became an NBC affiliate as NBC-26 and WLUK became a Fox affiliate as Fox-11.
How come KUSA NBC 9 in denver still uses ABC graphics for their local news? Wouldnt you think they would of switched graphics to NBC by now?
Where I'm from it was just NBC and CBS that switched.
To be fair...the switch in Cleveland, OH wasn't so bad, as WJW, and WOIO (then a Fox station) switched up. Detroit was a little worse since they went from channel 2 to channel 62.
That was a major downgrade for CBS, along with the Milwaukee CBS affiliation moving from WITI 6 to WDJT 58. Of course WITI 6 is currently Milwaukee's home for FOX.
1:25 Does anyone see the similarity between then-sister station WRC’s logo?
I know that logo anywhere. WRC in Washington, Dc, WNBC in NYC and KNBC in Los Angeles all had that logo with their News 4 newscast.
The switch in Denver could have been bigger, since Fox reportedly wanted to affiliate with KWGN Channel 2, but a deal couldn't be made.
altfactor because it was owned by tribune, who was trying to launch their own WB network
altfactor I've been here 2 years, and KWGN Channel 2 and FOX KDVR 31 are indeed affiliated AFAIK
But those affiliations were the consequence of actions in the '80s-90s (WB was the same network, along with the also defunct UPN, that became CW with CBS' help). So, this was in the late '80s, after Fox's start (limited in '86, fuller in '87), but before the WB's start in '91, to put the era's perspective.
This isn’t really an accurate description of what happened. In actuality fox got the nfl contract because cbs ceo Larry tisch was a cheapskate, as result of Fox getting the contract it decided to upgrade to VHF channels because outside of dc New York and LA Fox was on the uhf band and even in the 90s cable tv subscriptions weren’t as ubiquitous as today. As a result cbs was going to lose two of it’s strongest affiliates WJW in Cleveland, and WJBK in Detroit and be forced onto the UHF band on stations that spent their entire history as independent stations. So so cbs approached scripps Howard and offered to cut a deal to affiliate WEWS in Cleveland and WXYZ in Detroit with cbs however scripps used the cbs offer to renegotiate its deals with abc as a result of the deal scripps’ tv stations in Baltimore, Tampa and Phoenix became abc stations this in turn pissed off group W because abc was abandoning their strongest affiliate in WJZ for the shittiest WMAR so they cut a deal with cbs and eventually bought the network
Bears fans now had to assume the Fox viewing position
Why didn’t they fire the all the news staff at KCNC during the big switchover?
Another partnership sprang up after the New World Communications/FOX and Westinghouse Broadcasting/CBS partnerships, a partnership between SF Broadcasting and FOX which resulted as a joint venture between Savoy Pictures and FOX. SF Broadcasting's acquisitions included these stations, which are now all FOX affiliates:
WALA-TV (NBC) 10, Mobile, Alabama/Pensacola, Florida
KHON-TV (NBC) 2, Honolulu, Hawaii
KHAW-TV (NBC) 11, Hilo, Hawaii (satellite of KHON-TV)
KAII-TV (NBC) 7, Wailuku, Hawaii (satellite of KHON-TV)
WVUE-TV (ABC) 8, New Orleans, Louisiana
WLUK-TV (NBC) 11, Green Bay, Wisconsin
Justin Hill So in that case, it was NBC that lost the most of those stations in that agreement while ABC lost just one.
ABC lost WSJV that year.
@@rileysmith9843 In South Bend, Indiana, WSJV 28 switched from ABC to FOX when former FOX affiliate W58BT 58 became ABC affiliate WBND-LD 58 (now WBND-LD 57).
Rockford, Illinois TV station WREX-TV 13, an ABC affiliate, switched affiliations with WTVO 17, the NBC affiliate. The network swap was forced by ABC in retaliation for Quincy Newspapers switching the affiliation of its South Bend station WSJV from ABC to Fox earlier in 1995.
when i saw the phoenix clip i was like holy crap slow the freak down dang
All forced by Westinghouse's purchase of CBS in 1993, and Westinghouse's moving all their stations to CBS. Where Westinghouse owned a station, they had to sell stations that were primarily NBC affiliates. Of course, channel 4 in Denver was originally KOA-TV, under NBC ownership. KOA Radio 850 kept the calls when NBC scuttled its radio division in the mid-80's. Thus, KCNC.
This network affiliation switch was the result of an agreement between Westinghouse and CBS that was announced in the summer of 1994. It was not because Westinghouse purchased CBS. That came later. As they noted, CBS owned a station in Philadelphia which they needed to sell because they were affiliating with Westinghouse’s station there. CBS traded their station in Philadelphia to NBC for stations in Denver, Salt Lake City, and the two networks traded licenses and transmitters in Miami.
When CBS and Westinghouse made their affiliation agreement in 1994, they also announced they would form a joint venture, with Westinghouse as majority owner, that would own the Westinghouse station in Philadelphia and would also try to purchase other television stations and make them CBS affiliates. The stations that CBS acquired from NBC and the CBS station in Miami would be turned over to this joint venture with Group W, which is why they say that the station would go from being owned by NBC to being owned by Group W-CBS (the joint venture’s official name was “Group W-CBS Television Station Partners”).
Westinghouse agreed to buy CBS outright in August 1995, about a month before all the trades with NBC took place, but that deal didn’t close until November 1995.
@@joerouse7908 The minute the CBS/Westinghouse deal was approved, the combined company was in violation of FCC ownership rules in Philadelphia, owning both KYW and WCAU. One had to be divested. FCC gave them time to find a suitable licensee for one or the other. Westinghouse chose KYW and moved CBS from WCAU. NBC wanted a station in Philly and agreed to both the affiliation change and a pretty good financial package for WCAU.
@@rjmcallister1888 no, that’s not quite how it worked because this was not due to the merger. What happened was in 1994, Westinghouse agreed to affiliate its stations with CBS. As part of that agreement, CBS agreed to sell WCAU, and Westinghouse gave them part ownership of KYW through the joint venture I mentioned. It is true that FCC rules limited how many stations a company could own but the reason CBS sold WCAU was because they were going to affiliate with KYW. By the time Westinghouse actually bought CBS, WCAU had already been transferred to NBC as a result of the 1994 affiliation agreement and resulting sales/swaps, and the only station Westinghouse/CBS had in the market was KYW.
Why does CBS said about station trading because of taxes?
Basically, if CBS sold WCAU outright, there’d be a high tax rate they’d have to pay from the sale.
So, that would mean that in Philadelphia, there would potentially be 2 stations airing CBS programs, 1 station airing ABC shows, and no station carrying NBC.”
They Could of up powered WMGM-TV to cover the gap
In Honolulu, HI the afilliation switch (1/1/1996)
- KHON-TV 2 long time NBC have become Fox. (now owned by Nexstar)
- KHNL 13 was independent, then become Fox have switch over to NBC. (now owned by Gray TV)
I recognize only one person from the leading team @ 1:44. Larry Green. Still, none of these people are at KCNC anymore.
In response to D.E. Latham's comment, ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX all have O&O TV stations in Los Angeles, so they're pretty much safe. The only thing that would possibly happen in that market is if KTLA drops The CW in 2016.
If so, KCAL would pick up the CW affiliation, since it is a duopoly by CBS. But the dilemma would be if KCAL want to discontinue its 8 and 9PM news, which may earn better ratings than CW prime time offerings.
Update: KTLA renewed its CW affiliation in 2016. It was WGN-TV in Chicago that went independent, and the CW moved to WPWR.
As I understand it was renewed for only 5 years, rather than the original 10, so it expires in '21...
@@davidvelazquez9473 And a couple years later, the CW in Chicago would move _again_ to its current home, WCIU.
KCNC IS NOW A PBS STATION
Fake It's Stil CBS
Forgot the (“) before the word “so”.
KCNC is was the big winner because CBS has the best programes.
Shaded Muse no they’re struggling at the time between 1994-1996
@boutitbenza699 (cont'd #2) KERO had to wait until the end of 1996 to get out of CBS. Gannett had a good relationship with NBC (hint: it's why 12 is untouched in Phoenix - and why it led the ratings for 15 years after the switch) and (partly by process of elimination) got NBC on KUSA's side. (It strengthened their hand in the long run...though not now.)
The two Scripps stations that did not jump were KSHB-41 (another former Foxer that took on WDAF's NBC affiliation) and... (cont'd)
WCPO of Cincinnatti also had to wait until 1996 to move ABC to their station and CBS to WKRC-TV.
In 1998 CBS sports buy the NFL from NBC sports.
the longtime CBS affiliate in Austin, TX KTBC swapped with Fox affiliate KEYE with KTBC becoming a Fox affiliate with KEYE switching to CBS in 1995, the other longtime CBS station in El Centro, California/Yuma, Arizona KECY-TV Channel 9 switched to Fox while KSWT went to CBS and no ABC station there, viewers in those areas would have to recieve ABC programming from KNXV in Phoenix or KGTV in San Diego, but in 2007, ABC returned to those areas with KECY picking it up on a digital subchannel, respectively
Andy Leal KEYE was a CBS O&O, but now it’s owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group.
2012 is the big year for legal weed.
the last big switch was in charlotte n.c. 2 years ago between fox and cw.
Well, on February 29, "The Big Switch" occurred in Raleigh/Durham/Fayetteville/Goldsboro, NC. It involved WRAL-TV5 which became the NBC affiliate and WNCN 17, which became the CBS affiliate and rebranded to "CBS North Carolina".
8:43 just put wires in for all the networks lmao
For ALL TV viewers in Denver, 1995 will forever be the year of "the big switch." KCNC Channel 4 was NBC, but is now CBS. KMGH Channel 7 was CBS, but is now ABC. And KUSA Channel 9 was ABC, but is now NBC. Can I be any more clearer than that? #JustCurious #Denver #TheBigSwitch
channel 4 was CBS.
No PBS?
Since PBS stations have different clauses in their licenses (as they deal in PUBLIC BROADCASTING) they're mostly not subject to switch, save in cases when a INDEPENDENT station becomes a PBS affiliate, such as was the case on the original one, WNET NYC's Thirteen, that was originally an independent commercial station.
.....hence, “musical stations” for Colorado viewers.”
“You see, after FOX expanded, new T.V. partnerships sprang up around the country.”
Same deal when WB and UPN merged and became CW with CBS' help (wasn't originally on any of the two former network's ownership). The fallout (rejected stations, mostly UPN's) becoming MyNetwork, which now has been downgraded by Fox to a "syndication providing service".
@SCRIPPSCAST2007 The sentence read "Allbritton owning KTUL" and "KMBC being so strong with ABC in general". I know that Hearst owns KMBC...and why otherwise would I address Hearst in the next sentence?
Raymie Humbert Hearst’s ownership of KMBC and in case of Meredith’s ownership of KCTV because they also own KPHO, Scripps has decided to have KSHB joining NBC because of Hearst’s strong ties with ABC and CBS needed an replacement station to switch from KSAZ so they choose KPHO while renewing KCTV’s contract
Why didn’t PBS get involved?
Well the best affiliation switch ever! Maybe, in the future, once WJLA's Sinclair ownership ended (being transferred to an ABC O&O, additonally with Seattle sister KOMO, in exchange for ABC's current O&O WTVD in Durham/Raleigh), it would be like that.
I got news for you. That didn't get as much criticism as two Boston, MA stations did. WBZ and WHDH(formerly WNEV/WNAC) swapped affiliations. Since 1948, BZ and NBC were tight, and NAC and CBS were. That changed once and for all with this bloody merger. AARRGGHH!! I hate BZ now sans TPIR. They've lost my allegiance. Now, my fave station up there is WFXT 25 (FOX), and at times, WHDH. I hope the L.A. market doesn't get this Boston disaster!!
D.E. Latham WHDH lost its NBC affiliation about a year ago, and it's now on WBTS-LD. WHDH is now an independent.
The only change at WFXT, meanwhile, was the ownership; Fox sold it and their Memphis affiliate to Cox so they would get KTVU in San Francisco. It cost them their longtime anchor Maria Stephanos, who would later resurface on WCVB.
in 2009: japan is fine. while red white and blue get effected
The 1995 Big Switch is the reason why I hate Denver. I mean NBC moved from 4 to 9, CBS moved from 7 to 4 and ABC moved from 9 to 7. This isn't fair. In Sacramento where I'm from ABC is on 10 and CBS is on 13 which is pretty great. But anyways let's try something special this time. Hmm…
So I want KCNC to return being with NBC and KUSA to start being with CBS. This is because NBC is the best local TV network in the US. So KCNC… switch back to NBC. And KUSA… switch to CBS. Please. Thank you
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on earth dude i ain't saying that much for wsvn's station
“So they traded; 2 NBC-owned stations and some NBC property for 1 station in Philly.”
Philly (incl. parts of NJ) is like the 4th or 5th largest TV market in US. They had the 3rd commercially licensed TV station in late '41 after the 2 larger NYC O&O's.
in baltimore WJZ-TV ABC to CBS WMAR-TV NBC to ABC and WBAL-TV CBS and returning NBC
Channel 4: NBC -> CBS
Channel 7: CBS -> ABC
Channel 9: ABC -> NBC
@SCRIPPSCAST2007 I know that, but KJRH and KSHB are the only non-ABC stations Scripps owns today. I was talking about why they didn't jump to ABC too - Allbritton owning KTUL and KMBC being so strong with ABC in general are likely the reasons (oh, and Hearst owns ESPN in partnership with ABC, so you'd better expect good treatment!)
@boutitbenza699 @boutitbenza699 (cont'd #3) KJRH-2 Tulsa, where the ABC is owned by Allbritton Communications. (Allbritton got a group ABC deal too - they own WJLA-7 in DC)
Allbritton had the CP for an upstart independent, WJXX-25, which became ABC (taken from WJKS-17, which went to The WB). WCIV-4 (Allbritton) and WCBD-2 swapped in Charleston SC.
Anyways, CBS wanted compensation for the loss of WCAU, which it got in channel 4 in Miami; KCNC-TV; and KUTV SLC (KSL got NBC this way) out of NBC.
WCIV now currently resides on channel 36-2.
“NBC didn’t want to give up KCNC, its station in Denver, and KCNC was not shopping for a new network, but NBC really didn’t have much of a choice.”
In Dallas fort Worth before 4 CBS 5 nbc 8 ABC 11 ind 33 Fox and 39 wb kxtx was inteirn affiliation after on July 2nd 4 Fox 5 nbc 8 ABC 11 CBS 33 wb kxtx head back to independent.
Now, people don't like NBC anyway in Philly.
no one cares about fox that much
no fox
NONE, KDVR 31 remains.