Shocking Video Exposes Stephen A Lying On LeBron James and JJ Redick Podcast Over Heat Vs Mavs 2011
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- WOW! Stephen A Continues To DISS LeBron James & JJ Redick Podcast, This Time He Goes TOO FAR EXPOSED. Shocking Video Exposes Stephen A Lying On LeBron James and JJ Redick Podcast Over Heat Vs Mavs 2011
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0:00 intro Stephen A calls out jj Redick and LeBron James mind the game pod
2:01 Stephen A Says LeBron James is talking straight B.S. on his new podcast with JJ Redick
6:29 LeBron James Opens Up About The Miami Heat Full on Mind the game pod w/ LeBron and JJ Redick
8:38 LeBron James Admits Miami Heat Finals Loss Was His Lowest in the NBA Mavs vs heat 2011 finals
9:22 Stephen A Exposed for continuing to diss LeBron James & JJ Redick Podcast
10:00 Stephen A Breakfast club interview Marcellus Wiley max Kellerman Jason whitlock outro - Zábava
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Players having their own podcasts now sports media and their so called "Sources "can't profit off the non truths and made up behind the scenes that they had audiences believe,Players are peeling back the curtain and telling the stories we want to hear and know straight from their mouth and indepth!
Stephen A was already mad when JJ Reddick started his podcast,then Draymond started his,and PG even though LeBron has been had 3 podcast the shop,uninterrupted,kneading dough it's about finances,so I'm not sure why this particular podcast is having Stephen A getting bent out of shape weird!!
LeBron was bullshiting that was a fucking super team that's the point how u take responsibility for building a superteam then trying cop out with if we had better role players dawg 🤣🤡 4qt bum
Coach new he had to change the offense to suit LBJ. It was in a way better for the team but not for Bosch ,or Wade.They had to change their game to cover up for lebron weaknesses ,that whole offense covered up lebron weaknesses. They won rings with it tho.
Smith thinks he is a know it all and he is the smartest man in any room. He has a swollen head because of ESPN. He will never have the knowledge about basketball that LBJ and JJ have. He and the rest who are hating on LBJ and JJ podcast, ajealous and envious.
did Smith lie??? LeBron clearly said it himself that he played like shit!! 🤦
@@PRTWINCAM yeah, SAS lied when he acted like LeBron put the blame on the roster and that's the premise of his entire segment.
There is no way he can say that he didn't know because that part of the podcast released as a preview clip a whole day before the full episode dropped so he had enough time to watch and see the whole 14 minute video.
He purposefully clipped out LeBron blaming himself for the loss because he wanted to paint the narrative that LeBron is deflecting blame so that he can get views and to also try and somehow help MJ in the GOAT argument like he always does.
@@rangergaming8316 👍 EXACTLY!!
It's funny that this podcast is the thing that is pushing Stephen A over the edge,when LeBron and Maverick Carter has several media companies with podcast shows,They have the Shop,and uninterrupted,kneading dough financial business podcast,and they have partner with Disney and prime tv network,Stephen A podcast isn't getting the same shine as club Shay Shay Shannon Sharpe,and the players that are doing their own podcasts now and Stephen A is mad about it!
@@rangergaming8316 fair enough
I wonder what ESPN and 90% of his staff including many others outside of ESPN are going to do once Lebron retires and can no longer hang on Lebron James balls.
They will go after his children
Move on
SAS is a loud clown, always clout chasing! LeBron said he play like crap and accepted he was to blame.
FACTS
These haters can't stand it either 😂 SMH
No cap I'm glad he said it himself so it kill these clowns narratives
2011 LeBron cost dwade another championship and cost dwade a finals MVP. LeBron is a bum
That's all he needs say then anything after that is a copout
Stephen A is bitter that a lot of players are now having their own podcasts and they are telling their own stories and Stephen A doesn't like that
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Yes, media at large is. I don't watch SAS' podcast. He mixes sports and politics which doesn't work for me. I like following my favorite players.
_Facts_
Exactly we don't need him
@@kingphil8258 Stephen A sit up there like a clown he takes the side of the league owners,instead of understanding the players side of things!
Stephen Fadeaway Hairline Smith is just feeling threatened by LeBron joining up with JJ Redick. If LeBron gets on his nerves, he should shut up about him. He works for the network that gave LeBron 24/7 coverage.
Fadeaway hairline is savage😂😂
😂
😂😂😂
His time is almost up an he knows it, ppl just want real sports shows now, not a dam debate about bs all the time.
SAS is a clown
Don’t forget a jerk too! A stupid loud jerk clown.
Steve wants his black card back so bad lol😂
Bruh!! 😂
When did he lose it? lol and don’t tell me T.O. Took it from him 😂😂😂
Max Kellerman took it from him. FRFR!!@@ronaldsaintrose9254
It’s gone 😂
🤣🤣 We good...he doesn't even know what goes on top of banana pudding and his own sister makes them. Shannon Sharpe called him out on First Take
To take it a step further from Bron an SA. Bron fell back back because he thought D-wade would close them out. Bron n Dwade had a convo that summer an Dwade gave him the keys to the car and the rest is history. Bron a very humble and loyal person. And that's just the fact of the matter.
Idk man, Lebron guy here but i dnt know about this one. Once he saw Wade wasnt closing it out. He shouldve stepped up, if what your saying is the truth.
@@theronwilliamsiithat was my problem I had too You seen Dwayne needed more help and he should have stepped up regardless of he trying to be humble but D Wade brought that dog outta lebron I would say that after that he knew what it would take to win..
You can see it. Look at how aggressive Bron was during the Bulls and Celtics series. Wade had a dope game 1 in the finals so they was gonna follow Wade. Plus Wade was the only "star" champion. Everybody knows he should have done more but give credit to the Mavs. Spo even took responsibility for his lack of adjustments.
Why didn’t dwade step up since he was a champion?? Since he taught lebron how to win?? 😂😂 bron hate is wild lol
@@Brodee706 Facts!💯
stephen a smith is doing what youtubers do he seriously needs to stop lying to himself... he's doing what he's doing for clicks, stephen a.smith just needs to shut his big mouth up
Ill pray for you to get out of your feelings, to start critically thinking for your own sake, and to focus on facts. Lebron didnt lose because of his roster. Its a cop out to say its your fault when you played horribly while also saying your roster wasnt good enough. Which is it? Just a bad look. Thank you SAS for calling out the bs.
@@TheKos2Kospray for your mother to give birth to a smarter son with more going for himself…. I’ll do my part to make sure she gets knocked…. I’ve been trying so much I stopped letting her pay me for relations…..
@@william-lloydgarrisonDamn 😂😂😂😂
@@orlandowilliamson691 that man is a d*** rider.. he left me no choice
@@TheKos2KosYou should listen to what LeBron actually said vs listening to second hand info via Stephen A Smith
Stephen A can see his job going away with ESPN since LeBron and JJ Reddick started the podcast
He does seems threatened
@@SELFTALK I guess Stephen A could feel some type of way,I think when you take pride in bragging about getting max Kellerman removed on just the power that you thought you possessed at ESPN and first take,like they said people feel their job being threatened if they disagree with you Stephen A run upstairs and throw ultimatum,but Shannon Sharpe set him self up right so he doesn't have to worry about that if he decides to leave ESPN!
@@LeslieBarber-hz1seNah...Stephen A know what Lebron said was bs. I'm glad Lebron is doing the podcast. He's showing his true colors like people have been saying about him for years 😂
@@fcarter3863 Stephen A doesn't know LeBron experience or inside the locker room to say what is BS and how LeBron see things in LeBron life,Stephen A see and counts how many people have podcast now especially players in which he once had control of narrative speaking on players and players PR would say no don't respond to the media so now Stephen A doesn't have that because they speaking out on their own platform,so it doesn't make sense to watch ESPN and first take when you can hear from the players themselves, but he never thought LeBron would do a podcast and with his co host JJ Reddick of all people it's been in the making and Stephen A looks at JJ every day and didn't see this coming ,I don't know why Stephen A is flipping his lid over LeBron podcast this one when LeBron has 3 podcast shows this is not the first!
@@fcarter3863 and how is it bs when everyone else that was on the team before LeBron saying what went on said it on their podcast,dwade said it, UD said it,Pat Riley said it so where is the lie Chris Bosh even said it!
Mane I’m not a bron fan but dude did give credit to the mavs and say he played trash! He admitted that he wasn’t great. Also the team was cool but some of them guys were old as fuck. He loss and that’s it
Why aren't you a LeBron fan? You don't enjoy real sustained Black Excellence ? Not just on the court but off as well, there is no reasonable argument that any TRUE hoops fan can make to not view LeBron as a top3 player ever unless you a hater which you seem to be
not everyone needs to be a bron fan to appreciate black excellence. The context here is to say that the opinion is not biased because he’s not a fan and can speak objectively. Just because someone’s not a fan of bron doesn’t make them haters.
@@datyellaman447 what does his skin color have to do with anything?
seriously man, GROW UP.
This the same guy that made 17 straight three pointers in a tryout
And got a full ride because of it!!!😂😂
😂😂😂
😂 he been quiet since whitlock been exposing his credentials
😂
"To dis day!"
SAS is doing what skip tried. He's attaching himself to LBJ to ride along. Old tactic. Will fail the same way. Shame on u SAS. Let that man live
Exactly
Skip & Steven A
were PERFECT together
(birds of a feather)
Steven A. Smith is really starting to disgust me. We get it Michael Jordan is your GOAT. That no reason to poke at, spit at and spew garbage about Lebron James EVERY SINGLE CHANCE YOU GET. This is some real sucka shit. 💯
If people aren’t finding reasons to hate on you, which is really just an excuse to talk about you, then you aren’t successful enough to piss people off 🤷🏾♂️
Y’all grown men be getting REAL emotional over men yall don’t know playing a child’s game🤦🏾♂️
Respectfully asking are you an average basketball player
@@FastcarsDave985 what does that have to do with ANYTHING I just said🤔
I have to say therein lies some truth. However, there are some issues like media propaganda, cognitive dissonance plantation mentality, and, of course, the never has-been. The Snitch media whore judas steppin fetchit media plant.
I guess that means you as well because you just commented right ??
@DarrinKirk your obviously feeling spoken to by his comments. His is an observation your feelings got hurt. Get a life
He played half the clip. LBJ said he play trouble in that series. He just talking loud because he got lips
What?
SAS is a goat of nothing but capping GCOAT
Well Said....
SAS CLEARLY DIDN'T HEAR GOAT JAMES SAID (HE PLAYED LIKE 💩)! WHAT ELSE HE WANTED HIM TO SAY? SMDH. WE GOTTA START LISTENING 🤔
Take full responsibility and not drag other people into the mix we watched the series he messed up not the coach not the so called lack of teammates
@@Sldumas1983”I played like 💩” isn’t taking responsibility? I thought basketball was a team sport , idk how one player can take full responsibility for a team game
Stephen A Smith is despicable
Stephen A Smith be talking to crazy. He was nervous as hell when Bron walked on set a few weeks ago
When Lebron retires SAS and Skip relevancy will fade...they both have made a great living talking about this man
It's shit like this is the reason LeBron didn't want to work with the media and has a podcast with another baller.
All of these talking heads that were never great at the sports they cover are nervous now because the greats are better at talking about the games as well.
Stephen A. Smith needs LeBron's name to be relevant..Bron has equally large following of haters and fans like no else does.
Stephen a is a Rome recycled wannabe. He has the audacity to throw salt on JJ and Brons podcast..
You are talking about One of the greatest, if not the greatest of all times and one of the best three-point shooters of all times. I don’t understand why any sports network would even have you on their payroll?? And by the way, what were you doing at all of those colleges?
He didn’t throw salt he gave them props told people to go watch it he said it’s great but bron gave a back door excuse this new generation is always having excuses see where I’m from no excuses either you get it done or you don’t the moment you make excuses you lose Chris credibility
@@ceazemccallsr.6679did he not say he played like shit?
Stephen A Smith is nothing but a 🤡
He is jealous he has been in media for 30 years the face of ESPN and he still cannot land LeBron and here comes JJ with the kingfish plain and simple guys. Jealousy is one hell of a thing.
Stephen A. Smith is mad Lebron didn’t do the pod with him😂
I can’t wait until former players completely take over the industry. Dudes like S.A. can kick rocks.
The Bron haters are gonna hate. Most in the black community can’t respect a “good guy.” They’ll kiss the azz of an accused rapist or an habitual gambler who were diqz to their teammates though. A man that has been an upstanding person on and off the court has to be constantly disrespected and ridiculed all because he could possibly replace their perceived G.O.A.T.
Morally bankrupt indeed!
This statement was 100% Factual on every level… I analyzed it bcuz it pissed me off at first, then I had to admit it was factual….. ninjas just hate on great men but applaud scumbags, and it’s a shame…. But there are plenty of hillbillies out there hating on great black men like Lebron just bcuz their lives suck
Oh so you know Bron right 😂
@@Sldumas1983 do you? Did djboogiejay1616 lie? I think not.
@@brianharris6912 Oh so you know Bron as well 🤣 you guys are glazing
It's like you said, I never understood how a man committed sexual assault and pays his wife off with a 5 Million Dollar ring and gets the cover of a NBA GAME and was a horrible team mate but Bron is money on and off the court.
Stephen A Snitch is a female dog!!
This debate is getting old Mike bron whoever. I got Kobe as my goat but who cares when it’s your personal choice. It gets old. SAS is a clown ESPN are clowns. But like whoever you want to like it literally doesn’t fucking matter
Stephen acting like lebron duckin him when lebron ain’t thinking bout his big ass head
I wonder how it feels to go from respected journalist to an enthusiastic entertainer who doesn’t even bother double checking his sources or watching the full podcast to ensure he understands the context of the discussion he’s commenting on. Just an embarrassment to honest journalism.
This Micheal Jordan cheerleader be sayin sum factual things but 90% of his rambling be jibber jabber this is tha same guy who only had 2 points in his basketball career he can’t have a voice on the sport he couldn’t even make the team
Opinion...Steven A Smith..did Kwame Brown so dirty. I was in Philadelphia when he did Allen Iverson wrong..never really watched SAS...opinion. think he is a backbiter...his past actions proves that..
I don’t think you should waste your time on addressing steve a smith. Those of us who have clear discernment already know sas is a clout chasing clown.
to a lesser mind, stephen a is coming off bitter but if you really hone in on what he's saying. he's fleshing out the trajectory of jj and lebron's podcast bc they will "reset" the platform in terms of podcasts from a PLAYER/ATHLETE perspective. the comment at the end was him talking his shit bc as much as people want to make a clown of him, the man has experience like no other on television. ESPN, a multi billion dollar monster, was behind this guy for the longest and Stephen A is intelligent enough to know that the road is about to run out of pavement and his career will be over soon, hence why he started the podcast. While I don't agree with everything he's saying, he's making sure he's following the number 1 rule in show business... keep everyone talking. bc as long as WE keep talking about him, he'll stay relevant.
just my 2 cents.
Not bad….. I’m high tho so keep that in mind too! But the shit you said is relevant and it makes sense
Somehow S.A.S. finds a way to insert himself😂
I mean, everybody has their own thing they’re good at, but seriously the Talking Heads are out of control. Stephen A should have to play a game a one on one with LeBron or just stfu!
Good content broski💯💪🏿
Lebron took full accountability for 2011? He said they weren’t really a super team FFS…what is wrong with you?
Nah bro. Lebron just made that lame excuse about 'minimum guys.' They were a superteam in 2011 and lost because he got outplayed and choked. But Lebron using the podcast to contol the narrative like we didn't know what we saw.
I'm glad Stephen A called him out on it.
Stephen A didn’t clout chase on this. He is just pointing out that Lebron said they didn’t have enough players when they did have enough to win and that they lost because of his bad play. Period!!
The new Skip Bayless
Stephen A commented on the Spostra quote to, SOOOOO you are. Doing the exact same thing you’re pointed at Stephen A for doing😂😂😂😂
Agreed - I actually like Stephen A and I find him entertaining. For him to represent a portion of the clip when LBJ spoke very clearly and completely took accountability for his part in the finals plus shared great insight into Coach Spo……
Stephen A needs to hear and know that this was pathetic. This is why I don’t watch CNN, MSNBC, or FOX any longer.
Stephen a won't let nobody put the narrative that LeBron is better than Jordan's he work with or for mj
My issue with SAS is that he can't be respectful when he disagrees. He always goes too far "They really annoy me!" "They piss me the hell off!" "Shut the hell up!" Dawg, just say you disagree and explain why. You ain't gotta put this extra shit on it.
Stephen A acts like he is the only one right in basketball takes
Listen, I usually don’t ever agree with Stephen a Smith and the way he does things but he’s absolutely correct about this one
Love the content
I just Subscribe I like your page 👍 you tell the truth
Thanks 🙏
Ppl hate on lebron only because they don't want their Jordan to be replaced
Stephen A is Fake as F.. If Kobe was still alive, he knows he would still be on his jock and have him ranked #2 after Jordan. He’s Salty wit Lebron , cuz Lebron doesn’t care for Stephen A. Smith. Lebron has no heart, and needs a Super Team to win. Jordan and Kobe is in a League by themselves. They both had heart 1st & Foremost
Steven Lame Smith. S/O to LeBron for ALWAYS taking the high road. A true role model. Respect
Stephen A. is Mike's payroll. I'm not surprised 😂
Lebron has ALWAYS said he was the sole reason the lost in 2011. But also, in 2012 that team was way better. Washed old Mike Bibby was starting in the Finals, and Big Z was Big done lol
This is desperation on his end as ESPN starts to collapse and player podcasts start to rise
I cant stand SAS but i dont really see how he lied Yeah he did say he played like trash but u can tell he was still trying to make excuses 🤔🤔 the bottom line is he has to holes in his career to ever be better than Jordan or kobe sorry 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Steven A Smith initials says it all… SAS Queen!
Stephen A is on MJ’s payroll. AKA the media Goat. 😂
How many times you gonna post this?
This is new
I swear the media ain't shitt they lost to the Dallas Mavericks because the Dallas Mavericks literally had a better team... 2011 the Mavericks beat Damian Lillard and LaMarcus Aldridge then they went on to beat the defending champion Kobe Bryant Lakers after that they beat Russell Westbrook Kevin Durant and James harden to go to the finals they were just a flat out better team than the Miami heat and if Dallas had a ran it back in 2012 instead of breaking up the team they would have won it again
Brandon Roy not Dame but Roy was a legit bucket
@@PickEmUpMessEmUp you sholl rite dame came the next year
Man I was laughing my ass off in 2011 and trolling all Lebum fans. Rather you like or dislike SA he’s absolutely right. Dirk took over but he couldn’t. You can’t say we didn’t have the roster but should of won 😑
Bron haters also tend to fall into one of 3, maybe 4, categories: Jordan lovers/Bulls fans, career trolls/bigots, GSW fans, old heads
Mmmaaaaaan finally a CZcamsr with a damn brain!!!
Lebron sayin he needed more help after running to miami and guaranteeing 7 rings needed to be called out. Jus Say Dallas exposed you tip your cap. Don't say your support wasn't good enough u were a mvp.
Comprehension doesn’t seem to be your forte huh? lol
Stephen a smith is taking a page out of skip bayless book , lebron this , lebron that , let that man be , when he retires I just wounder what the are going to make up
They’ll finally have to work for headlines!
Selectively quoting the man as a journalist is criminal
Did he say that LeBron lost to the Heat in the Finals??
Stephen A knows this LeBron era very well.. He did lie
I can't believe he thought he wouldn't get called out 4 this. Stephen A Snitch is a complete joke man smh wow
I have always thought SAS was a loud ignorant clown! He always irritated me! He thinks the louder he talks, the more truthful and impactful his words are. He is the biggest tool, I’ve watched about sports.
Long live the days of Ahmad Rashad🙏🏻
Stephen A spitting facts lebron tried to downplay his play and the way he used tone made it seem like it was incredible they even made the finals lol everyone knew they were going to the finals, he did not take full accountability and down played it.
That's the purpose of what LeBron and JJ did ..
Wait so Lebron is the greatest basketball player of ALL time but Spo had to go to a football coach to understand what they needed to do to win a championship??? FOH Bron, if he had averaged real GOAT numbers in the finals they would have beat the mavs. Why even bring up role players ???
Stop hating on Stephan A, he talks about ball not politics . U shouldn't hate Stephen a
He was just referencing the roster from a basketball perspective & how certain pieces allow other pieces to do things that serve their skill sets better. From the perspective ppl don't look at the game from. I don't have an issue with the debate shows but this type stuff is what irks me and it doesn't only happen on debate shows.
Stephen A was right about MJ never having a bad game like Lebron in the finals. MJ is the GOAT
did Stephen a Smith lie???? LeBron himself said in the podcast that he played like shit!!! so how is A Smith lying ?? lmao 🤦😂🤣😭
Thanks for showing how Lebron dealt with his truth
Ha ha, so Lebron actually agreed with skip Bayless LOL.
Stephen A. Smith knows that LBJ is about to retire and understand's the magnitude of the power moves he's going to make immediately after! So SAS decided to begin profitting off of LeBron by attaching himself to the retired version early. Ultimately becoming the new "Skip Bayless." Who's on his way out! SAS is simply making his own power moves. Even if he has to lie on LeBron to make them.
#GoatMuzik 🐐 🎶
The era of “sports shouting” is over and these guy don’t know what to do.
Bro Stephen spoke facts . Lebron disappeared , especially in 4th quarters , not his roster . His roster was was good enough to get to the finals and go up 2-1 and up 10 points , and lebron disappears . Couldn’t find a way to distribute n other ways and get a W . What did sas say that was wrong ?!
SAS edited the clip, and took out the part where Lebron took accountability. He said “I played like Shit”
@@Lemon_Drums_USA I heard that part already , but yeah here’s the thing … he still made excuses , I played like shit … no lebron not only that , but you disappeared , and did not find a way to distribute n help your team win . Not blaming the roster , and making up more excuses . Bottom line is he choked and froze up , quit beating around the bush .
These players are about to put these no talent having hacks out of business and I love it 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
SELF TALK you are appreciated
LeLiar Blames.....🤡
He the 1st one in the locker room after a game because he disappears in the 4th quarter.....LeMagician
Stephen A wants to be views as the top in sports media and he knows this LeBron and JJ podcasts and others like this are taking shine away from him. Not to mention all the other excellent sport shows that are in TV as well.
Self Talk you gonna ignore the fact that Lebron said they weren’t a super team. That’s what set Stephen a off
3 great players don't make you a Super Team. You seen the Nets. You see the Suns. You see the Clippers. They not Super.
Great players on a team don’t make you a super team. If that’s the case then most of the 80’s/99’s teams were super teams. Most teams back then had at least 3 or 4 HOF players. Ex: Lakers with Magic. If they were a super team then what does that make Golden State with KD? Why is there so much vengeance for the Heat when Boston came together to form a Big Three? The difference the organization put Boston together & people are mad players came together to out smart the owners.
@@robindickenson117 You know it's because Lebron. They think Lebron is so great his haters believe he doesn't need Help to win.
@@tawaingant exactly he’s a robot but Steph only needed 3 HOF players. He will never pls anyone.🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
SAS says their pod is a great show yet CLEARLY has not watched it in totality… just giving out fake love all around
time for StevenA to get GONE ..
> OUT WITH the 90's
LBJ took the L because of he what he said even though that he did say that he suck but he threw other people names under the bus right after he said that and before he said that Self Talk your my homie but fr fr LBJ is known for blaming others and not taking full responsibility and that’s one of many things that he’s missing to be a qualified leader
Glad ppl see through the bs salute to selftalk
Not only did he take accountability but gave most of the credit to Spo and Bosh
You joking right lol?
Funny how Steven A thinks he can be better than guys who can articulate and have actual played the game professionally 😅
He got too big for his britches at the say.
The worst part about SAS is him thinking he's smarter than he is. You have the backing of the actual sports media monopoly who go to extra lengths to silence and limit whoever comes at you with facts, especially the people that call out your 17 shot college basketball history. Literally every segment is him talking VERY LOUD then lowering his voice as much as possible to say some word he had rehearsed 10X because he just started being able to read in the last few years. I hope people give Whitlock and Kwame their flowers when the powers that be give the green light to let SAS be roasted and ultimately exposed.
But SAS didn't lie. They lost cause Bron got outplayed by Jason Terry in the Finals. If you have 2 top 5 players and 3 of the top 12 you have enough. Especially when you're playing against a team with 1 All Star. The roster stuff is a cop out.