Network Switches - Before You Buy!
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There comes a point in any mildly tech-savvy users life when the limitations of their ISP router and how it manages the exchange of data between your network of devices, is just not cutting it anymore. It starts off simple, when you get the router from your internet service provider, you connect one or two devices and everything is fine. However, as time rolls by, you realise that connecting devices via a wired connection is just faster and more reliable than any more fluid Wi-Fi connection. Many users who were forced to work from home during the pandemic needed to adjust their home hardware environment in order to include new pieces of office kit that, although perfectly suitable for the office, were somewhat strangled by a lack of ethernet connectivity in the home. For most users in the last 12-months, this is the point at which they need for a network switch in order to support more wired devices on the network, as well as facilitate vastly improved exchanges of data, become paramount. Much like buying a regular domestic mains plug adaptor that converts a single socket into 4 sockets, it just makes things easier! However, network switches are often one of the earliest and most intimidating steps for the less technologically aware and given that network switches can cost as little as £25 or go as high as £1000’s, it can be incredibly difficult to understand what is the best network switch for your own hardware environment without fearing that you spend too little or too much. Today I want to help you choose the right network switch for you by going through the key features and buying points to make sure that the first switch you buy is perfect for years to come.
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"This will be super dull...' now, somehow, I'm more interested than I was before...
Reverse psychology for ya
Thank you always for including your insight about the noise level.
Stumbled on your video while researching switches. How helpful it is! Short, but covers a lot. And what was surprising was the demo of the amount of noise that the Netgear switch puts out!! Thanks so much for this video....covered everything I had questions about.
Thanks for covering switches and explaining them the way you do.
Very clear introduction to the subject! I'm looking into adding surveillance cameras at home as well as running ethernet cable in various rooms of my place and I learned a bunch of useful concepts. Thanks, this is great, keep it up!
Thank you for such a phenomenal explanation of this topic!
I am completely new to this topic and currently in the process of trying to set up a network/ 10gbe / switches and all that good stuff at our photography studio.
I still have a long way to go but really value all your incredible knowledge.
Thank you so much for sharing!! 🔥
Love from Sydney, Aus.
Great video! Im getting a new switch for my 2 Gig Google Fiber to connect my NAS and allow the ports in my house to work. Thank you for all the info in this video! You answered a lot of my questions
This was incredible for multiple reasons. Thank you!
Thank you, for bringing noise in the discussion. When you want the server rack next to your desk like I do... noise is a huge factor and I'm not feeling like opening the switch up to swap the fans for nocture fans because in switches, even expensive ones, the power supplys are nearly allways open designs where hurting yourself is an huge risk... and it voids the warranty
Not bad descriptions but for how long it was I was expecting a little more suggestions for when to use a managed vs unmanaged switch. Some use case scenarios would be helpful.
What a great video. You are a pleasure to listen to and an incredible source of information. Thank you!
Thank you for the excellent video. I thought it had just the right amount of detail for beginners. I also appreciate the information that unmanaged switches have a lower noise output - it's important for the particular usage my company needs.
thanks for the break down , really helped me pick the 8 port switch
Enjoyed and understood each and every minute, well done n my thanks !
As always great video. Thanks for all you do!
You answered questions I didn't even know I had!
good summary 🙂
Superb video - thank you!
LOVED the Killer Instinct reference at 18:13. Finger's crossed it is the SNES version.
Very informative, thank you!
So, I watch this channel on a different CZcams account normally. Now subscribed on this account, too… so you have me twice 😂 Just wanted to say how well you come across in your videos. You make everything as clear as crystal and help someone like me (understand the minimum basics only) a lot. Your channel has been invaluable in making some confusing tech decisions over the past few months!! Thank you.
Need to check out the newest offerings from TP Link - the TL SX105 (5 port) and TL SX108 (8 port) 10Gbe switches. Also the Huawei AX3 Pro - changing my cables to all CAT7 also helped improve my network transfer speeds and reliability especially when it comes to streaming..
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Great sharing, thanks!
great information, thank you.
Great demonstration!!! Unmanaged 4 Life!!!
I knew nothing before, but now I know something. Very informative, interesting and you taught me a lot. Although, now I have to look up what NAS is?? Thanks for the video, will follow your other videos.
Network Attached Storage
Excellent video. It seems if you want a no bullshit video on something, look for a channel out of the UK.
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
Wow, such a great video for a noob! (Me.) Thank you very much, sir!
I just sold a 10gbe Netgear 24 port switch because of the noise--not to be understated, thank you for mentioning
Tip for home users, make sure your switch support atleast v2 IGMP when using it with your ISP interactive television that uses an ethernet cable.
Thanks for sharing buddy... and your username definitely doesn't scare me...honest
Video nice . THANKS.
As a Canadian, I fully support your pronunciation of "router"!
It’s all aboot the route
@@RossPotts I know absolutely NO ONE who pronounces the word "about" like "a boot".
Both in Britain and Canada (and other non-American English-speaking countries, you can undoubtedly find some more pronounced regional accents where those English words are pronounced (very approximately) that way, but for most words of Germanic language descent, words with the spelling and sound of "out" are pronounced more or less as Americans do.
Things are different for words of French descent, where the "ou" dipthong carries what in English is the "oo" sound (as in "booze"). These are consistently pronounced (in the UK and Canada and, I'm virtually certain, Down Under) using a more or less French vowel pronunciation - and have been so pronounced since Norman times.
So in non-American dialects, the very French word "route" is very typically pronounced identically to the word "root".
@@PeloquinDavid impressive knowledge base.
I truly enjoyed this BYB(before you buy) video, you're truly informative and entertaining, thank you #newsub
Cabling is another concern and the market is flooded with cheap cables, I am thinking about getting the Patchsee brand
I am clueless, this was really helpful...
Great video. We get it on rooter and router? :)
Very helpful to a non-tech
i think you'll find the router is what allows different devices on your home network connect to the internet and a MODEM is "your gateway to the internet"
Seeing your comment, I'll bet you're from north America. Here in the UK, our routers from our ISPs all have a modem built in. Normal home users/ non IT' have just about mostly never heard the word 'modem'.
The exception to this these days is homes with fibre broadband. They come out and install the modem which then has an ethernet connection to the router (which still has modem functionality inside).
So yea, the guy's not daft, the video caters more for our reality than yours over there.
thanks a lot
I have a Cisco CBS250 16 port switch in my home office and a Cisco CBS350 8 port switch under the stairs connected to my Dell Poweredge R210 II server.
These switches are fanless and support VLAN's and do everything I need with no noise.
They only use 18W so they use very little power.
I borrowed a Cisco Catalyst 3750 for a few days and that thing was loud and used near 200W.
dual wan routers is something to mention for us out here in mooseville with only 4g connections available
4:10 - Switches have largely replaced hubs due to one specific feature: "Switching". Switches learn what devices (MAC addresses) live on what ports and are intelligent enough to not send all packets to all devices. Hubs, are on the "Stupider" side of the scale and as such, create wasteful overhead on the network fabric by sending all data everywhere. Switches will only send data between 2 ports (source and destination), and largely leaves the rest of the ports to interact with the rest of the network without this "noise". Also, for long-run cables, UTP is meant for indoors and short distances, STP is designed for back-haul between switches, it is a more robust and has better shielding
Hubs exist only in theory. I have never seen one.
I have one of those Netgear 8 port 10GbE managed smart switches, and I was bummed that it doesn't auto-negotiate to 5 or 2.5 GbE. It's either 10GbE or 1Gb E. I have the XS708T switch. Just something else to keep in mind when shopping for one, if you have PCs in your local network with 2.5 or 5 GbE NICs.
Correct, I ran into the same issue but with the bigger models too. (of the XS-series)
I conveyed with Netgear's Support and bottom-line is the back-then chipset choices they had to make when designing that part of the Netgear (XS) family.
If you use the next iteration (M4300, M5300, M7100, to name a few) they do support respectively 10GBe, 1GBe, 100Mb and sometimes even 10Mb Ethernet connections.
I believe that the XS-series is also choices made to have a reasonable costs for the user and also noise-levels. Because the true enterprise-level switches (we also do have the models in use for our 10GBe's) are very noisy, generate a lot of heat (to warm-up a room) and prices are quite high.
So, I do believe the Netgear XS is a bit of the middleground for feature-parity.
But I fully understand
@@InspectorGadget2014 Interestingly, the first Netgear switches I got were the GS110EMX model. They have 8, 1 GbE ports and only 2, 10GbE ports. However, those two 10GbE ports support 2.5 and 5 GbE as well as 10GbE. And this switch has no fan, so it is completely silent (but runs VERY hot with the 10GbE ports in use).
@@life-longpatriot8258 Yes, whilst the GS110EMX & XS708T supposedly belong to the same family (according to Netgear's own website), it is the chipset that dictates such capabilities. What Netgear calls "Multi-Gigabit Plus-switches" (keyword here is Multi-Gigabit, being 2.5GBe & 5GBe IMHO)
After conveying with Netgear Support, I learned it is really up to the chipset AND the on-board firmware, one of their developers who worked on a particular model switch, informed me. Where Netgear sometimes also had force-on Green Ethernet too, btw (which was an issue in our application because that dupes Wake On LAN, WOL)
Luckly, Netgear's website does allow you to select what type of ports (& how many) you need/want & at what various speeds and then advices which model fits your requirements.
(I will post the link in my next reply, in case YT blocks such a message)
If you play around with the various selections, you will notice some out of the ordinary models being suggested, where the model-name does not always give away what capabilities that particular switch offers.
Again, after talking to Netgear Support, I trlu believe it comes down to the chipset used in that particular switch:
www.netgear.com/uk/business/wired/switches/plus/#tab-modellen
@@InspectorGadget2014 Thank you!!!
Thank you Bro:)
No worries!
well done
Reminds me of Roto-Rooter here in the USA.
thanks great vid =)
Can I simply connect a security camera to this via Cat6 and access on my local network? Or is need another video device in between?
Good video
Not boring at all!
I have an Xfinity router and Google home wifi (not the Google nest wifi but the home wifi) I want to put it into bridge mode to stop getting double nat in order to do so I need a switch which switch is best for my home
you said this video would be super super dull... but I've re watched it twice for the info already lol
I'm with Sky broadband and we can get max 62mb download speed and 15mb upload seed. Is the GS305 going to allow me to achieve them max speeds across 3 devices at a time without throttle/bottleneck by it?
Thanx
I’m confused with which switch to get. For home use only. Please help.
perfect solution for loud switches: cut a hole in the top and slap a 120 or 140 on it.
discussed this with a friend the other day while looking at a very interesting Ebay offer on a Cisco Catalyst Switch. Didn't buy it in the end because of the added power consumption compared to alternative solutions.
GREAT video! Thank you! I think this is THE BEST channel for this kind of information
If you allow me one question please. I have in my home 200Mbs internet service. If i buy 10Gbs switch would that increase my internet speed? Or just i'll be able to build a 10Gbs network?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my English i'm still learning
Have a Productive and Healthy day!
Good rule of thumb when considering a connection between two devices in a network is that the speed you get cannot be faster than the slowest link in the network between those devices. Things can get complicated by various trickery like compression and link aggregation, but for an average user, the simple rule works best.
@James Harper You can make sure your roommate turns off his CZcams auto-play before he leaves for the day.
That improved my home network speed.
No it will allow your device to use the 200mbs but no more unless you upgrade your service so your better off gettin a 1 gigabit switch
nice informative video, thank you
also, Rooter 😏
So basically the 1600$ enterprise 10gig switch from ubiquity should be fine right?
Can you monitor people's traffic while they're on your Wi-Fi? See what websites they've been visiting?
I only have 1 Ethernet port within my room and I need at least 2 more ports.Can I use either of these on a wall outlet that is directly connected to our internet? I’m not a tech person so I don’t know if there’s any other solutions that could help.
Actually a rooter sounds like some kinda garden tool, routers are more along the lines of something you might see in the office.
What if I bought two eight ports vs one 16?
Would help with where I run my lines.
Is that a bad idea?
I use 4 lan ports from router for connecting 3 routers & 1pc .can i use switch gor stability & speed?? Or router is enough for daily need
Pls answer 🎉
can i use a giga switch if i have a normal cable?
My network switch did not appreciate being called super super dull :)
I already have a router, but after this video I see I am going to need to get a “rooter,” too! 😂
Sorry, couldn’t resist taking the piss, at your expense. 😁
All in good-natured fun, though. 😊
so i just take any gigabit switch for cheap? for basic use seems it makes no difference they all work? at least thats what i read
Thank U!) Great job!) If everyone were like u people would be more informed) and wouldnt make such a lot of mistakes PC's/network world)
Cheers
What would you recommend, I have a cat6 ethernet cable from my router downstairs up to the attic. I'm building a Crypto mining setup in my attic. Need probably 12-15 ports. Which 16 or 24 switch should I go for? I would use cat6 cables for all my devices.
batty man
shouldnt you do vlans if you are running out of ports then?
Do you have links to products?
Hello I'm looking for a 8 port switch only used for cash register, kitchen printer , 1 office computer and maybe another computer and from for something else this is for a small business what do you recommend I get please any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I've used an 8 port Netgear Gigabit unmanaged switch that's worked for me with not a single issue for about five years. Super easy to set up, just plug all your devices in and it automatically sorted itself out.
Hey! Quick question. Does adding a switch add latency/ping to let say someone who’s gaming?
No….
So if I understand this correctly, this is what I need if I want to get to my stuff in my NAS offline?
LAN switch creates a network on a link (L2, MAC address, Address Resolution Protocol) level. Router interconnects LANs on IP (L3, Internet Protocol) level. You do not need a router to create a home LAN; you need a switch for that. However to go to other networks (to your neighbour home network or to networks that are part of the Internet) you need a router. You could have more routers depending on the topology suitable for your particular needs - if you split your environment into multiple networks. You might run LAN for your family, another LAN for guests and even 3rd LAN for your home office. But to interconnect those LANs and get them to the Internet you need at least one router with a network interface on each of the LANs you run.
DAC isn't Fibre? It literally stands for "Direct Attach Copper"...
Can you mix and match different brands or is that not recommended?
You can pretty much mix and match, especially unmanaged switches, they're so reliable and universally compatible that they almost never have problems.
Some people may prefer certain brands due to good warranty support or firmware.
TP link TL SX105 Multi Gig RJ45 5 port switch all capable of 10Gbe
In my experience “lifetime” warranty applies to the lifetime of the appliance, not the lifetime of the owner, so the warranty no longer applies if the device is dead... it’s a bit weasly...
What if your router has enough ports for everything in your home. Do these switched provide any benefits other than splitting into a whole bunch of ports?
Switches will give you more speed between the devices in your home. Let’s say you want a faster connection to your NAS or faster connections between two PCs, the a switch would be of benefit. If you need POE they are a must have. If you want a 2.5Gbs or 10Gbs connection between your workstation and NAS, or between a PC or NAS and a place on your network where you backup large files, it would be necessary. If you are happy with your speeds, number of ports, and security then plugging everything into your internet router is simple.
I thought I might have gotten lucky and CZcams sent me to a good site for information. Instead I get the dreaded "Server not found" when trying your links.
Does a TP link work with Netgear Switch, both are unmanaged?
Yes. The brand of switches doesn't matter.
My experience of managed switches (Netgear) : they crap out about once a week and won't let your devices reconnect when starting your PC in the morning.. They need to be powercycled reguarely to work. Same issue on two 5, and 16 ports brand new switches, even with firmware updates, and no changes (yet) to the factory settings.
I got tired of it :) Changed to an unmanaged 2.5Gb switch, smooth sailing from there.
I used to work in IT until I retired. Looked after hundreds of switches, everything from 5 port unmanaged Netgears to about a hundred 48 port Extreme X250 and X450a to a huge Extreme Black Diamond with I think six 48 port blades in it and a few HP and Cisco. Had very little trouble with any of them, switches were about the most reliable equipment we had. Fibre, copper, stacking, you name it, we used it. About the only failures we saw were power supplies for mini switches.
On my home network I have a Netgear GS308T at the core and GS305E and 308E at the edge, all managed, no problems yet, since I upgraded to them in October 2021. The GS308T ran for 13 months before being switched off to move to a different power socket.
I don’t know why you had problems, could be bad luck, bad batch, overheating, configuration problem, though that is probably unlikely it they are still on the factory defaults, but managed switches in general are generally not unreliable.
@@srfurley No idea why my devices lose network connexion with these. they work as long as they stay powered on, but i don't leave my computers turned on when i don't need them. in the morning it was a lottery whether they were able to get an IP (the ISP box stays on constantly obviously).
They were never overheating as they were always in rack shelves with fans blowing directly on them and on the modem and NAS. not that gigabit switches heat up to start with. they run cool by default. By the way it was a Netgear GS116E, and a GS305E.
On factory configuration, no matter the firmware version, the problem persisted, that's why i got rid of them to go unmanaged. The 2.5GbE one runs hotter, but i haven't had any network issue since the managed switches moved to the parts drawer.
I have four switches now it's getting out of hand lol . I do hate wifi though lol.
Personally I don't hate WiFi, but I do find wired to be way more reliable for all my devices that stay put on desks or my games consoles, also moving as many things as possible to wired connection means a less cluttered WiFi signal for my devices which actually use it.
I would love to know what the average person needs more than 1Gb service for
Most important in network is router, so i think that, this router L009 is good for home networks.
Switch is good, when you have formexample nas ...., and you transfering, big files, you need switch with good switch chip - 10Gigabit switch chip is enought i think.
Ports can be only gigabit on this switch, important is agregation, or better " Qos ".
So for example, when you have switch with 10G switch chip and have only gigabit ports is good, because, you transfer data from nas only gigabite speed, and you have still 9Gigabit capacity in switch. Because 10 gigabite - 1 gigabite = 9 gigabite.
Qos - is calculating speed, which speed need devices, and they devide the speeds between this devices.
It is important for stable connection.
unmanaged switches are often connected and forgotten. there is not much in it that can break and make noise.
SFP, or rather SFP+ when using 10GBe switches, do not always cost you an arm-and-a-leg. e.g. 54 euros per SFP+ module, when using copper)
I believe the majority of the audience here is consumer & prosumers, so rarely the need for fibre-cables & transceivers, right?
When using (indeed CAT6A, CAT7) cables, you can build good trunks of 10GBe over a fair amount of distance (30 meters) using (copper) SFTP cables.
Okay back to router versus swith;
The analogy I like to use is that a switch is a traffic light going thru its programmed cycles on a busy intersection. And a router is more a traffic-cop, who looks on what traffic is where (e.g. lorries) and speeds of traffic approaching the lights when deciding to wave which traffic thru. (there is way more than that but to keep it simple)
For most people & applications a Layer 2 or Layer 3 switch would suffice. And rarely a true router would be needed.
For a simple, rather "flat" network where you want to connect things together with little hassle as possible, an unmanaged switch can work wonders.
However, if you want to tinker with the traffic-flows, want to do elaborate VLAN's (= separate networks within your network, with intelligence how, when and where traffic needs to flow, e.g. for more security, isolation) a managed switch (with aforementioned capabilities present/available) is recommended.
2x suggestions when you are in the market for a switch:
1. See if you can do a try-and-buy, in case the switch does not offer what you want & need. (or you will need to read thru the datasheet and manual completely)
2. Consider buying an enterprise-switch on the good-as-new market (second-hand/used models), you can find sometimes bargain deals (yes, even for 10GBe switches) that would cost new thousands of whatever your local currency is. Okay, you may not always be able to get the higher port-densities, like 52x or above, for one 10GBe switches but instead 2x 10GBe 28x port switches do come close to the 52x ports you may want at a significantly lower price. (like a couple of hundreds of your local currency)
But as our dear Robbie stated, 10GBe switches can be loud, very loud. You could replace the fans for more quiet ones but 10GBe switches do get warm, 40 yo 60 degrees centigrade is their regular operating temperature.
My name Keith, I don’t understand anything about networking. I don’t have a computer at computer. My girlfriend and have a smart phone and table . I bought a simple switch that is connected to my virgin hub not forgetting have two virgin tv boxes, I am trying connecting to the network switch. My problem is buy best network cable.
Rooter 😮💨
I need two Ethernet wan connections
Good video apart from the 10gbe switch , unless u work for the government or using a big it or any other company 10 gbe wouldn’t be necessary let’s say for 80% or more of people considering most of people can’t even get full fibre at the moment and the max anyone can get with fibre is 3Gb down , the best switch on my opinion would be a gigabite or 2.5 gb
Then there's also wiring. I'm currently adding cat 6 wiring in my home (between walls), but most places still only have cat 5e in the wall. Most likely, full duplex ethernet (2 Gb) or 2.5 Gb would be the next step as it is an easier and more practical upgrade path.
Networking is not limited to what the isp provides. Some people use their local network for high volume and speed data transfer between workstations. See any video editing house, or post production house.
@@noreaction1 …and 30TB backups.
A typical 10 gbe switch costs 10 times more in India.
Is that the case everywhere else also?
@@amitupmanyu511 The MikroTik 9-Port Desktop Switch, 1 Gigabit Ethernet Port, 8 SFP+ 10Gbps Ports (CRS309-1G-8S+IN) cost $305 USD and people seem to like it. Of course you could spend a whole lot more. Not sure how that compares to what you have available in India.
You mentioned cat 5, 6 and 7 cables. I have Googled and bought cat 8. Why waste time with the inferior older ones. And why aren't you talking about it?
I have a Cisco enterprise level 10gbe 24 port switch that's been sitting in my closet for over a year now. Initially put it in the office, fans ramped up, wife comes storming in the room. in the closet it went.
😂😂
Rooter? Rooter? In Australia they call it a Willibeenbagganewdgembob!
I think you'll find it's spelt Willibeenbagganewdgembobb... The extra B at the end is key my friend...KEY!!!
Imagine coming to this video just wanting to learn about flogging.
*unpacks cat of nine tails...*
few hundred squids? BET