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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • A Link Between Worlds was an exciting first step in a new direction for the Zelda series, but abandoning its age-old formula meant sacrifices had to be made. It's still an excellent game, and served as a stepping stone in the creation of the next.
    That's Breath of the Wild, by the way. That's the one I meant.
    Zelda Survey Results: docs.google.co...
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    Special thanks to zeldadungeon.net as always for being a fantastic resource in my research!
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Komentáře • 620

  • @LiamTriforce
    @LiamTriforce  Před rokem +242

    One thing I'd like to point out is that the colours in the poll results are similar between certain games. Zelda 1 did not take the majority vote in "best dungeons," as some people thought. That's on me, though. The footage didn't show every corresponding game. Here are the full results for you to look at! docs.google.com/forms/d/1mW5VcsI30KMAdK4IT29275gNKUkeukKgRgJtTk0Br-Q/viewanalytics
    Thank you so much for watching, and here's to 2023!

    • @thegreenportals
      @thegreenportals Před rokem +7

      You Should pin this coment so that people can more easily find it.
      Looking forward to more content in the future!

    • @Ed_man_talking9
      @Ed_man_talking9 Před rokem +2

      good luck diversifying your portfolio man, your new subscriber will be with you throughout the journey.
      if you're looking for a starting point, phantom dust is a unique xbox game, it's a cult classic and is criminally underrated.
      you could look up games that are spiritual succesors to classics, not only zelda
      i bet videos breaking down the gameplay mechanics on why its fun or why its a choor or why its hell would do you wonders
      in fact making your own master class on videogame design might be a sweet treat
      i guess i better stop, you're probably tired of me spit balling last minute ideas to the back of your head, whatever you make I'm sure it'll be gold.

    • @DevI-vl7gp
      @DevI-vl7gp Před rokem +2

      I'm surprised more people don't hate BotW. The lack of dungeons and enemy types make it my least favorite Zelda game maybe ever. I also beat Ganon right away, so none of the puzzle or exploration rewards after that carried any weight at all. Without dungeons or item rewards, is it really a Zelda game? It's a fun sandbox at least.

    • @Ed_man_talking9
      @Ed_man_talking9 Před rokem +1

      @@DevI-vl7gp yeah i get it, they focused a little too much on the open world imo, the dungeons we got needed to last longer, i'd dare say make them a gauntlet to the point normal people need to leave midway and restock on weapons and food, i get hinoxes and lynels are bosses in their own right but we need an optional apex in the wilds who is a challenge if you havent got all 4 champions blessings, 60% of the heart containers, royal and savage armaments, simmered hearty durians, maxed out gear, etc, something that keeps us on ege even with the game almost done,

    • @Amare_Sentire
      @Amare_Sentire Před rokem

      My drunken rant about how much I hate BoTW isn't featured in the poll. Probably for the best.

  • @thillsification
    @thillsification Před rokem +473

    Over the years as I’ve played and replayed all the Zelda games, I honestly feel link between worlds might be my favorite. The gameplay and dungeon design are absolute top notch

    • @RobertF-zj2rm
      @RobertF-zj2rm Před rokem +14

      totally agree. i still get so existed every time i replay ALBW. it feels like a ride in all the best ways. even though i know what’s coming, i can’t wait to go again.

    • @mr.lafitte336
      @mr.lafitte336 Před rokem +2

      Same here brother

    • @RobertF-zj2rm
      @RobertF-zj2rm Před rokem +3

      oops excited*. i was too excited to type

    • @statesminds
      @statesminds Před rokem +2

      It has been mine even after playing the ones after it

    • @michaelstanton8363
      @michaelstanton8363 Před rokem +1

      Honestly this game and the Oracle games are my all time favorite Zelda games

  • @Kniffel101
    @Kniffel101 Před rokem +167

    It's so incredible that they managed to make this game look this beautiful and play so well due to it running at 60 fps *_on the Nintendo 3DS!_*

    • @unHolyEvelyn
      @unHolyEvelyn Před rokem +15

      For anyone who doesn't understand, the OoT and MM remakes ran at 30FPS, which while better than the 20FPS they released with on the N64 and GC, wasn't close to the framerate we got with ALBW.

    • @linkums28
      @linkums28 Před 5 měsíci

      To be fair, ALTBW is much smaller​@@unHolyEvelyn

  • @Mazerwolf
    @Mazerwolf Před rokem +60

    I remember after playing this game back when i was in school, i’d look at walls and a part of my brain would say “merge with that one”

  • @MetodoCuboAzul
    @MetodoCuboAzul Před rokem +61

    One thing you didn’t mentioned is how good the 3D effect is and how it helps on some puzzles/platforming. I was blown away, and it was one of the few games which I always put 3D on max

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld Před rokem +241

    I recently discovered your channel and watched all your Zelda videos, so you picked a perfect time to upload a video on my favorite game of all time!

    • @DragmireXI
      @DragmireXI Před rokem +5

      I like watching your videos, I didn't know you were into Zelda so much. Do you like getting into the lore?

    • @CZsWorld
      @CZsWorld Před rokem +4

      @@DragmireXI Absolutely, that's what I love about it

    • @cullenschafler1368
      @cullenschafler1368 Před 7 měsíci

      No way

  • @_Guardian
    @_Guardian Před rokem +119

    Man you just hit me with a wall of nostalgia at the beginning
    Almost wanted to shed a tear just remembering the times I played Ocarina of Time with my Dad

  • @jaredkhan8743
    @jaredkhan8743 Před rokem +109

    I never played a link to the past so I had no sense of nostalgia or familiarity with a link between worlds and I loved it so much. Favorite 2d Zelda fs

    • @Doodle1678
      @Doodle1678 Před rokem +3

      Same I went back and played link to the past afterward on the switch and I absolutely love A Link Between Worlds

    • @Bonnielikescats
      @Bonnielikescats Před rokem +4

      Same here, 2nd favorite 2d Zelda game. My favorite is Spirit Tracks

    • @Dipped1234
      @Dipped1234 Před rokem +3

      Completely agree with this statement.

  • @GherkinGarboi
    @GherkinGarboi Před rokem +42

    I really enjoyed playing this one on hero mode. Cannot believe this game is turning a decade old, and playing it now won't be the same as streetpass Dark Link battles were everywhere.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Its crazy how, if you think about it... The name of the game is strangely metaphorical. "A Link Between Worlds." A fascinating cross between the classic Zelda formula, and the more open-ended Zelda of the future.

    • @bepis_real
      @bepis_real Před 7 měsíci +1

      By that logic, “A Link to the Past” makes a lot of sense too. Not just for being a prequel to Zelda l & ll, but also a precursor to nearly every predecessor’s formula. Master Sword, bottles, Heart Pieces, they all trace back to this game that now gets distanced further and further in to the past

  • @realkingofantarctica
    @realkingofantarctica Před rokem +870

    A Link Between Worlds has some of the best game design ever. No cap, it's probably the perfect Zelda experience.

    • @wintersong2266
      @wintersong2266 Před rokem +68

      I agree. I'm not normally a big fan of 2D Zelda. To me the 3D games are just much more interesting. ALBW is the only 2D Zelda that I like and replay just as much as the big 3D titles.

    • @TyRendition
      @TyRendition Před rokem +43

      Link between world prob the best 2D-3D experience for a Zelda game

    • @HunterR1223
      @HunterR1223 Před rokem +28

      Loooong time zelda nerd here a i 100 % agree. A link between worlds was honestly easily tied for my favorite zelda game. Its truly a work of art

    • @javiervasquez625
      @javiervasquez625 Před rokem +8

      Even more perfect than Breath of the Wild's?

    • @HunterR1223
      @HunterR1223 Před rokem +31

      @javiervasquez625 botw is a very mid zelda game. It was okay, just didnt really feel like a true zelda game.

  • @Shokukun
    @Shokukun Před rokem +218

    This game was my first Zelda game ever. It’s also the first video I am ever watching of 2023. I love and appreciate you Liam. Happy new year

    • @samt3412
      @samt3412 Před rokem +6

      Same. Technically, I played Zelda 1 first, but this was the first one I actually beat.

    • @MrKevosmin
      @MrKevosmin Před rokem +1

      Have you played its predecessor?

    • @LloydVerner
      @LloydVerner Před rokem +1

      Being apart of late Gen Z meant I grew up on Wii U and 3DS games, so whilst not my first Zelda (that was Wind Waker HD), it was one of the earliest Zelda's I played. Because of that, I think I'm a little biased when I say I really like this game, but I can definitely understand the games faults too.

  • @Johnny2Cellos
    @Johnny2Cellos Před rokem +45

    Great retrospective, I really owe this game a replay

  • @travisporter5222
    @travisporter5222 Před rokem +192

    The perfect way to end the year. Thank you for your content. You have such a outstanding take on the whole franchise.

    • @LiamTriforce
      @LiamTriforce  Před rokem +33

      Thank you!

    • @Bonnielikescats
      @Bonnielikescats Před rokem +1

      @Liam Triforce whenever I play the footrace minigame in a link between worlds, I travel to Lorule and use the bell. Does that make me a cheater?
      Edit: Yes, if you do so you still win as long as you make it in time.

    • @watching7721
      @watching7721 Před rokem +1

      @@LiamTriforce now you need to cover the Philip CDI games

  • @ilavain
    @ilavain Před rokem +59

    Link Between Worlds must be the game I've replayed the most. It was my first 3ds game, and the 3ds was my first Nintendo console. I have so many fond memories of this game :) Happy New Year everyone

    • @isaacdeer
      @isaacdeer Před rokem +2

      fr its the perfect length for replayability and i just never get sick of it

  • @mattmas6628
    @mattmas6628 Před rokem +110

    I played this after the Link’s Awakening remake and was astonished at how much better this was. The full analog control went such a long way

    • @alanlee67
      @alanlee67 Před rokem +22

      Really don't know why they haven't ported this to switch.

    • @GherkinGarboi
      @GherkinGarboi Před rokem +13

      I wish the Link's Awakening remake had analog control over that grid movement.

    • @danielsimmich1858
      @danielsimmich1858 Před rokem +24

      @@GherkinGarboiit’s because the origins Link’s Awakening was built on a grid system where as Link Between Worlds was built from the ground up with full movement in mind

    • @TimeFrost
      @TimeFrost Před rokem +2

      @@GherkinGarboi yea it would've been a nice change sigh :(

    • @Cheesehead302
      @Cheesehead302 Před rokem +3

      I've been saying this since that game came out. This is a game I have replayed several times, it feels good just to run around through the world. The first time I played the LA remake I was just kind of baffled that the controls felt so much worse. It felt like you were being unnecessarily refined because they didn't take the effort to fully convert the game out of being a game boy game. Compared to the difference between A Link to the Past's controls and A Link Between World's, it feels awful.

  • @AngelofGrace96
    @AngelofGrace96 Před rokem +19

    I 100% agree with you that ALBW's music is some of the best in the entire series! the mix between nostalgia, remixes and fresh new music is absolutely stunning! I also really love the renting mechanic, it gives the player so much choice in terms of money, dungeon choice and risk (if the items are rented and not bought). Plus Ravio is such a fun and well written character.

  • @maegnificant
    @maegnificant Před rokem +47

    I think often that A Link To The Past still looks new. The artstyle and it's technical implementation are perfect.

  • @softpizzaman9503
    @softpizzaman9503 Před rokem +39

    I played this game at an extremely pivitol point in my life so I will always cherish the memories I made playing this game. It also helps that this is quite possibly the best 2d zelda that alot of people will never play

    • @j.enantiodromia3940
      @j.enantiodromia3940 Před rokem

      I don't mean to be pedantic... but given this is the internet and some one is bound to be, I wanted to have a conversation about something that bugs me...
      It's not really a "2D Zelda", is it? I would suggest editing your comment to say "Top Down", but it's really not a big deal.
      I'll be happy to delete my message if you want me to, too. (Hehe... Tutu! 😅)
      Edit: After a small conversation with Defesche, I've realized that the term 2D Zelda is a blurry one and that's fine. I think it's because it's capturing and expressing the "dynamic feeling" the player experiences within the game, rather than a "technical mechanic".
      Edit 2: I also restructured my original comment and added, "I wanted to have a conversation about something that bugs me...", because I think I came across as too sure of myself. I also say, "I don't mean to be pedantic" and "it's really not a big deal", but I feel like I still seemed... Full of myself. 😣

    • @paulgiddings3258
      @paulgiddings3258 Před rokem

      @@j.enantiodromia3940what the fuck

    • @j.enantiodromia3940
      @j.enantiodromia3940 Před rokem

      @@paulgiddings3258 I'm sorry, do you have an actual question? Otherwise your comment only serves a shallow, social purpose. I guess, you're one of those people who don't think much, before you talk, huh?

    • @AxeMain
      @AxeMain Před rokem +1

      @J. Enantiodromia It's 3D graphics, but 2D gameplay, which is what matters here. There is no Z Axis in this. That's why we call Street Fighter a 2D fighter since its X and Y axis only.

    • @j.enantiodromia3940
      @j.enantiodromia3940 Před rokem

      @@AxeMain ​ I mean, I get the street fighter thing, but... There literally are three axis of movement in A link Between Worlds. You can essentially jump in the Z Axis, using the weird wind/leaf/wand-thingy. There's also the see-saw things, buttons that you can hit down with the hammer and send you upwards when they pop. There's the times you have to drop down onto moving platforms, and blocks also move Link in the Z axis while he's stuck to them. Puzzles need to be thought out in three dimensions. Some spots that you stick to the wall are "higher" than others, which is meaning there is a third dimension to puzzles solving, objectively...
      It's like calling Little Big Planet a 2D side-scroller. I mean, sure I'm just being nit-picky, but I don't know. I just find it weird how easily everyone wants to use the label without properly thinking about it. Just thought I'd see what happens if I do mention it.

  • @lordraiden007
    @lordraiden007 Před rokem +7

    I like the minor puzzle (hidden path only visible in the dark) in the final dungeon that gets you the red mail. It was a nice touch to put an element from one of the previous dungeons in a place nobody would really expect.

  • @kettleclog5105
    @kettleclog5105 Před rokem +19

    Replayed this game afew months ago. It's undoubtedly my favourite 2D Zelda, it's so nostalgic.

  • @KodaThePsyduck
    @KodaThePsyduck Před rokem +40

    Seeing you go from my favorite Zelda game (Minish Cap) to my third favorite, really made my day! I'm excited to watch this one and I hope you have a happy new year

  • @WilliamTheWatchful
    @WilliamTheWatchful Před rokem +3

    Never before has a game stopped me in my track like the musicians in Kakariko Village.
    I remember staying a few days at my parent's house, and before heading to bed, I would pay the musicians to play for a good 30 minutes straight.

  • @pixieingman
    @pixieingman Před rokem +7

    The ending of this game makes me cry literally every time

  • @christianwilliams2117
    @christianwilliams2117 Před rokem +4

    it's odd to me people like this one less then ALTTP, for me it felt like a true upgrade. its so interesting to see different perspectives!

  • @alleydoesstuff4147
    @alleydoesstuff4147 Před rokem +4

    link between worlds was my first zelda game i actually got to play, i grew up watching my brother play skyward sword and twilight princess but i was never allowed to play them cus they were on “his” wii. when i got a 3ds and discovered link between worlds tho, i was finally able to dive into a series that i’ve loved for my entire life. i’ll always have massive nostalgia for that game

  • @alexkoch5543
    @alexkoch5543 Před rokem +6

    How crazy it would be if Liam released the Breath of the Wild retrospective on March 3rd, the day of its release. That officially makes the game six years old.

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 Před rokem

      This was like expecting a Scott the woz episode early March after the Christmas special it’s just unrealistic.

  • @ahbeef
    @ahbeef Před rokem +7

    this is one of my favorite games in the series, even if the dungeons limit their design to only 1 item they're still incredibly well designed dungeons that are really fun and satisfying to explore and solve

  • @nintendocorner2040
    @nintendocorner2040 Před rokem +8

    I just got this game a few days ago, and I'm not that far into the game but I can already tell that it's an amazing game.

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds Před rokem +2

    A Link Between Worlds is my favorite Zelda game. It came out the year i graduated college and I’ll never forget my time with while i was working my first job after school. I love BotW but i truly hope someday we get another game like ALBW but on consoles someday.

  • @DefinitivNichtSascha
    @DefinitivNichtSascha Před rokem +2

    It is difficult to overstate how much I love this game, easily being among my top 3 Zelda games. And it's also not that easy to see how much change there is in it, looking like the opposite on a surface level due to its connection to ALttP. However, I much agree that its gameplay-loop is incredibly satisfying. The pace is almost entirely dictated by the player and the world is so deeply thought out in that it gives the player freedom and rewards their creativity in a way that is honestly quite amazing.
    Though I do agree that the game's biggest weakness is its lack of difficulty. And I think this is something the developers really took to heart when designing BotW, because especially in the beginning, that game never messes around.

  • @toasty869
    @toasty869 Před rokem +2

    Link between worlds was my first Zelda game I played. I was honestly surprised just how much I loved it and it was a perfect introduction into the series for me. You talk about how the Lttp memory helps a lot but of course I didn’t have that or any nostalgia and it was still a very fun and amazing experience

  • @datalphalion
    @datalphalion Před rokem +5

    A Link Between Worlds is my favorite Zelda game of all time. It cuts a lot of the fat that plagued the traditional 3D Zeldas and gives me a pure adventure to get lost in. I actually jumped into a second playthrough after finishing the first, something I rarely do in modern games.

  • @nbdjz1058
    @nbdjz1058 Před rokem +1

    me and my best friend cosplayed zelda and hilda when we were 15 and it was so fun and cool. this game holds a special place in my heart

  • @YZ-id6pj
    @YZ-id6pj Před rokem +3

    Dude, I'll keep watching Top-Lists, Theories etc. it never gets old xD It's insane how I am consuming this kind of content for years and I'm still not tired of it.

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 Před rokem

      Yeah it’s a comfort thing, can’t forget about let’s play’s, and ytps though because the funnies for ytps, plus that’s more CZcams culture than gaming CZcams stuff.

  • @Matty_Meister
    @Matty_Meister Před rokem +1

    Hey man, love your videos. They’re a part of my work commute. As much as I love your Zelda videos, coming back has been less about the specific game itself and more about the desire to hear your opinions and feelings on something you’ve played. The Sonic and Mario retrospectives are evidence of that. So don’t feel reluctant to branch out to other games in this video style. Just like your love for games go
    beyond Zelda titles, so does the audience. I’ll still be listening and I can ensure you that others will be as well!
    On that note, I’d love to hear your feelings for more Mario and Sonic titles, as well as other games, such as Luigi’s Mansion, Donkey Kong Country, etc.

  • @scoutamillion
    @scoutamillion Před rokem +2

    A Link Between Worlds is hands down my favorite Zelda game in the franchise and my favorite game of all time. It was the first ever Zelda game I was able to beat, I was around 10-11 years old. So this game also holds some nostalgiac value to me as well. It’s just so charming and the art/design of the game is amazing. I’ve been waiting for you to upload a video on ALBW and you did not disappoint!!

  • @Larkitect_
    @Larkitect_ Před rokem +2

    So happy to see Link Between Worlds getting so much love. My absolute favorite Zelda and i was 7 years old when the original dropped. One of the most amazing game franchises ever.

  • @molol44
    @molol44 Před rokem +1

    Link Between Worlds is in my top five Zelda games. It's one of three I can replay and still have a ton of fun.

  • @raphaelcarvalhobezerra6913

    ALBW was my first Zelda. And it has a warm spot in my heart

  • @raptyrn1290
    @raptyrn1290 Před rokem +2

    I'm glad Link Between Worlds was my true first Zelda game. It got me super excited and engaged from day one, and only set me up for the greatness that was to follow.

  • @danielholmqvist2713
    @danielholmqvist2713 Před rokem +3

    Looking forward to watching this one. Hopefully you can put into words my appreciattipn for this game because I can explain why I love it so much! Artstyle, gameplay, dungeons, it's just something. Happy new year, Liam!

  • @DrDolan2000
    @DrDolan2000 Před rokem +9

    This is another one of the best 2D games ever made. I like The Minish Cap more, but A Link Between Worlds has so much to offer in terms of pure fun
    I do miss the entertainment of finding items out in the world, but I like the character of Ravio and his bird friend. I guess that's a fair trade
    And the story, while a bit of a rehash of A Link to the Past, is simple and sweet
    Sometimes, I wish I could play these games on a home console because I don't play video games outside; but I always get sucked into them, anyway and I forget that I'm playing on a handheld

  • @galelululu
    @galelululu Před rokem

    i listened to this gaming podcast (the besties) go through the entire zelda catalog in a round robin style tournament discussion to decide the best zelda. On one side was all the 3D Zeldas, and on the other all the 2D. On the 2D side, it came down to this very game facing off against its predecessor. I forget which won, but it really could have gone either way and was the matchup that took the longest to decide. I absolutely adore this game. I took it to pieces; I played it all the way through, I played it to full inventory completion, I learned to speedrun the boss rush dungeon; I played the game as a “nuzlocke”, I played it upside down, I learned the speedrun skips, I clipped through the ice temple, I skipped the hand boss, I *found a glitch myself at like 14* just from messing around in-game because gameplay itself is just so fun. Great game.

  • @mishmosh_ml
    @mishmosh_ml Před rokem

    i’m so so glad someone finally made a video on it, this is probably my favorite zelda game, if not my favorite game ever!

  • @maru5948
    @maru5948 Před rokem +1

    I've made it a tradition to watch the new upload, then listening to them when trying to sleep at night.
    Idk if it works so well because you structure your story telling so well, or because you're just nice to listen to, but my god thank you for your work!! Always love seeing you pop up in my feed

  • @twitchingtriforce8010
    @twitchingtriforce8010 Před rokem +2

    this is my favourite top down Zelda game of all time and I can not fault much of what you said here, I started playing Zelda with OoT so I understand how people wouldn't like the fact you don't get items in dungeons, main ones anyway, but the core gameplay loop is so satisfying and fun that it really doesn't end up mattering to me in the end
    Great Video, keep up the good work and if you need to change the format at some point I have faith you'll do well :D

  • @drewbabe
    @drewbabe Před rokem +3

    This game didn't lack a sense of progression since you were constantly working on moving from just renting to actually owning your items, and then upgrading them. Not to mention heart pieces, bottles, and the hidden items in dungeons helping you make your journey easier. And the puzzles in this game were honestly quite good. The formula of having to take a relatively linear path through a dungeon every time because you can't cross obstacles without the dungeon's main item, then getting it, and then having to backtrack to go down every path you had to pass by, now that you have the item, is extremely limiting and leads to boring dungeons if you don't get the main item early, unless you add some other gimmick to the dungeon, like basically every "water temple" style dungeon where the designers got rid of the linearity caused by the "find the main item" design by introducing some annoying puzzle box mechanic to slow you down and confound your pathfinding abilities. Having the required items as soon as you enter the dungeon means the designers can introduce puzzle concepts immediately and they don't have to dedicate a bunch of the dungeon to the "pre-item" path, it can just be all about the main item, all the time. Did they succeed with doing this in every dungeon in this game? Unfortunately not, but it was still much higher average quality than most dungeons in the entire series. I still think the best dungeons in the series were in Link's Awakening and the Oracle games, but while those games had the highest peaks, they had some stinkers too, whereas this game had no *bad* dungeons. Even its water dungeon was decent (even though I really do hate water level puzzles, they're just tedious no matter what you do.) So I really can't disagree with the latter half of your video more. In fact, it seems unfair to say that the exploration on repeat playthroughs isn't as good as on the ALttP randomizer... like, duh, of course randomizers are going to be better! It's the same map, sure, but you have to figure out the right route to the end game every time. You wouldn't say repeatedly play the same randomizer seed, would you? They're fun because they mix things up, but they're not *designed* and are never as good as vanilla on their own. It's only the fact that you can generate endless new ways to play the game, often in challenging or downright maddening ways, that makes randomizers any good. If you're gonna compare this game to a rando then you might as well compare apples to oranges.

  • @PilotW65
    @PilotW65 Před 10 měsíci

    I cant stop rewatching your Zelda retrospectives, you and KingK are very good at what you do but I agree with your take on things alot more. Wind Waker is also my favourite Zelda game, that retrospective i have listened to at the most lonely and honestly bleak times of my life and just hearing your passion for the Wind Waker has brought me back from the brink emotionally several times. The effort you put into building your script and how you tackle analysing these games also really shines through. I can understand the concerns you bring up in this video, that you'll have to find new ways to keep people engaged as time goes on. That is a monumental challenge that i dont envy of content creators. But dont stop doing what you're doing, your passion will guide you!

  • @wooflakes
    @wooflakes Před rokem +3

    This was my first Zelda game ever and i enjoyed it a lot

  • @j-pastel-yellow
    @j-pastel-yellow Před rokem

    it took me a really long time to buy a 3ds, finally getting one in 2020, and the first game that i played through was a link between worlds. it blew my mind how good it was, and now it sits really high on my list of favorite zelda games, with only majora’s mask and links’s awakening ahead of it

  • @Kizitty
    @Kizitty Před rokem

    LBW was the first Zelda game I ever played. I remember when I was younger and couldn't sleep, I would boot up the game and head to the milk bar in kakariko, and just listen to the bard there until I got tired enough to fall asleep. Good memories.

  • @lavenderpants8695
    @lavenderpants8695 Před rokem +1

    Wow the 30sec mark really grabs why Ocarina was so incredible at the time. We went from the little top down 2d game to a Hyrule that immersed you into the experience like it was reality.

  • @Plumpus3545
    @Plumpus3545 Před rokem +3

    Looked through the comments and I had no idea people loved this game as much as I did. Thanks Liam Triforce, for looking into this under-appreciated masterpiece.

  • @OneOnlyDan
    @OneOnlyDan Před rokem +1

    I can't believe it's already been nearly 10 years since it came out, it only feels like 5 at most.
    I guess it's time for a replay of the game again sometime soon.

  • @laggalot1012
    @laggalot1012 Před rokem +1

    It didn't get much attention in the video, but I really liked the energy meter for item use. In Zelda games up to this point, I was never all that keen on the resource management involved with bombs, arrows, magic, etc, especially since I very much had hoarding habits at the time. If I didn't have to use a limited resource for something I could do with my sword, I almost certainly wouldn't, no matter how inconvenient it was. (Shoutouts to Wind Waker Armos enemies.) The energy meter here, being that it regenerates over time and pretty quickly at that, felt liberating as a result. Being allowed to freely take advantage of all my arsenal at any time, with recklessness as the only real limiting factor, was so fun to me.
    I have several reasons for considering ALBW my favourite pre-BotW Zelda, but this was a big one for sure.

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 Před 2 měsíci +1

    ive always prefered the design principle of balancing open world and sturcture in “sectioned open words”.
    where at first you have like 3 objectives/temples you can tackle in any order that each only require 1 item, and once you get all 3 another like 4 objectives/temples become available that can all assume you have those first 3 items AND can be more complex to boot. And then a final section of like 2-3 objectives/temples where the designers can use the sandbox to its fullest.
    so basicly dungeons become available in “sections” that balance both freedom of aproach and structured progression. early dungeon design, mid dungeon design, and late dungeon design.

  • @TheDoomKnight
    @TheDoomKnight Před rokem

    Fun fact: In A Link to the Past, the ice dungeon is a breeze if you tackle the swamp dungeon and get the red cane first. Then you just jump down whenever you want and use the cane to make a block to put on the switch.

  • @AidanBelizaire
    @AidanBelizaire Před rokem +1

    Liam, I just love your videos man. The way you script your thoughts, the findings and arguments you present. Just fantastic. Whatever direction you go, however you modify, I'm there. 👊🏽

  • @danielholmqvist2713
    @danielholmqvist2713 Před rokem +1

    Something I thought about while watching: The little textboxes that pop up of "things you forgot to say" make the video feel a bit unfinished or unpolished, as if there wasn't time to add it in. And unfortunaly it's an annoyance when watching to have to pause the video to read, and also listen while you're talking at the same time. Not blaming you for it, I don't know how your conditions were making this video, but it's something I haven't seen much of before in your videos and a room for improvement! Otherwise, great video as always on one of my favorite games! :))

  • @Nikolaijuno
    @Nikolaijuno Před rokem +2

    It's funny how you mention hating the Ice palace in A Link to the Past, because I can never figure out the block pushing puzzle. And I always grab the Blue Mail and skip the rest until i get the Cane of Somaria.

    • @LiamTriforce
      @LiamTriforce  Před rokem +3

      That's another thing I really like about that game. I love that you can do that if you know the game well enough, well worth the risk too because you take so much damage in the Dark World without it

  • @sarahbest4633
    @sarahbest4633 Před rokem

    I always cry during your Zelda videos so this is not new but the intro fr had me in tears

  • @mouseymk
    @mouseymk Před rokem +1

    I'm really glad I came across you channel before the year ended. Your 3D Sonic video got me hooked and this one cemented my interest in your style of content. I'm really looking forward to everything you got planned for the new year.

  • @LunaSkye64
    @LunaSkye64 Před rokem

    I dont see many people talk about this gem. I remember when this game came out. Was still relatively new to Zelda; going on 3 years at that time. I was basically thrust into this series when it was obvious going through some serious transitions. From discovering Ocarina of Time which had remade for the 3DS, my very first Zelda game that stood the test of time and how enamored i was with the world. To beautifully story-driven Skyward Sword was; my first “New” Zelda title, which I loved at the time but now understood there were pitfalls that muddled the game. And to this, where it still had the “structure” of a Zelda game, but was going through a Transition which will soon become Breath of the Wild. The idea that I could go through the whole map on my own in A Link Between Worlds was mind blowing to me, because I never thought it’ll be possible. But that’s what they did. I really liked the renting system they implemented to counteract the non-linearity of the game, and I find the characters to be extremely charming. The main gimmick of that game also really made for some creative puzzle solving. Oh to experience this game again one more time.

  • @emidemi7211
    @emidemi7211 Před rokem +1

    A Link Between Worlds is my most replayed Zelda game and one of my personal favorites, but until a few months ago I hadn't played it in a while. After recently playing through A Link to the Past for the first time, this game was next on my list and this video reflects a lot of my thoughts. I've always been a huge fan of the items in this game and the way you can use them in the overworld, and the way it lets you route your playthroughs to find the treasures in each dungeon, but coming back after ALTTP, it felt a little too open after seeing how that game handled its linearity. I think I still prefer ALBW but the games feel independent enough that I think both warrant coming back to for their own reasons.
    Great work as always, your thoughts on this series are always excellent. Looking forward to when you cover Breath of the Wild!

  • @bepis_real
    @bepis_real Před 7 měsíci

    Just wanna say, HotCyber, you did a phenomenal job on this thumbnail. Can’t stop gawking at it when it passes my recommended

  • @mushroomanjcc1954
    @mushroomanjcc1954 Před rokem

    Bro that fkn into dude. That shit went hard. I've played so many, if not all of those games. Shit makes me emotional tbh, God damn

  • @slowpoke_r
    @slowpoke_r Před rokem +1

    I LOVE THIS GAME I bought it when it came out, and i have 100 percented it 4 times, 3 times in normal mode and one in Hero mode

  • @aaronross6086
    @aaronross6086 Před rokem +2

    Finished my play through about a month ago and loved it

  • @infinityheart_tm9270
    @infinityheart_tm9270 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The only game in the entire franchise that I actually felt engaged with to 100%.

  • @StiffAftermath
    @StiffAftermath Před rokem +1

    This game experimented, and is a very good game overall. I find it a solid 8/10. Next to Link's Awakening, it is one of my personal faves.

  • @LFOtobot
    @LFOtobot Před rokem

    The opening was so long and got me so chill that when you finally spoke, I got startled and went "UGH!!!" and I scared my upstairs neighbor.

  • @majoraswrath6182
    @majoraswrath6182 Před 5 měsíci

    This game is by FAR my favorite 2d zelda. I have played every single zelda game, but this one just stands out so much.

  • @ThatGeorgeMoment
    @ThatGeorgeMoment Před rokem

    2016. The year I went into a shop and left excitedly with this game, my first Zelda game I ever got and sparked a love that now 7 years later is still strong as I now play Minish Cap for the first time
    Bonus, I was in a game shop in my town and talking to my friend about how I would love a Gameboy Advance to play Minish Cap as I've headed good things and trying to play every zelda game to my best ability.
    That night was the Nintendo Direct announcing Minish Cap on the switch with the extention AND I WAS THRILLED-

  • @akawoomy_
    @akawoomy_ Před 2 měsíci

    so i got this game on an emulator and loved it so much that i literally beat the whole game in a single 15 hour play session. I also want to keep playing the game and this video showed me a bunch of things i had no idea even existed so im definitely gonna replay it in the coming weeks (probably not as fast this time lol). This game has some amazing characters that i loved and i felt really good about the fact that i never had to google the solutions to a puzzle or something with the way the game was structured, it felt like there was always a thought of "ok i can totally cheese this if i come back with (insert item here)". Definitely in my top 3 games of all time

  • @imahoare4742
    @imahoare4742 Před rokem +1

    One of my favorite Zelda games.
    I loved the creative user of game mechanics, the art style and especially the game play. A nice comfy 3DS game to play while its raining outside.

  • @GoldenNorway1
    @GoldenNorway1 Před rokem

    I remember the first time I played through this game... I loved every second of it, and always will.

  • @evanthehuman3557
    @evanthehuman3557 Před rokem

    21:29 I love this mini game due too the fact on how you learn to play it

  • @dandelion6716
    @dandelion6716 Před rokem

    Thank you for making this! I grew up on Zelda games and a link between worlds was the first Zelda game I played but almost no one talks about it

  • @mistikalcanavarlarparlamen3265

    This is by far my favorite and my childhood

  • @Brett_Shannahan
    @Brett_Shannahan Před rokem

    Just started getting in to your videos about yesterday. And just my luck you post a fire video about my FAVORITE Zelda game. Keep up the good work!!

  • @mikemurphy5898
    @mikemurphy5898 Před rokem

    28:00 One thing a link to the past does extremely well is guide you to the correct dungeon. You have the feeling you can go anywhere and do anything, but if you pay attention when exploring, you'll find that almost every dungeon has something in- world that prevents you from reaching it without (at minimum) obtaining the special weapon from the previous dungeon (or otherwise defeating it).
    For example, if you try to skip dungeon one and go straight to dungeon two, you can't because you need the big hammer to knock down the pegs blocking your progress to across the bridge just south east of Gannon's Temple where the final battle is fought. Try to take the dungeons non-linearly and you'll quickly discover that a similar "road block" (by no means always physical, either) will keep you on task and pursuing linear progression even if it feels like you could go 1,3,6,2,4,5 in actuality, you cannot.

  • @Yarnooee
    @Yarnooee Před rokem

    the smoothest Zelda experience i ever had, beat it in 3 days and still felt it like every penny i spent on this game was worth it.

  • @Arandomguy30
    @Arandomguy30 Před rokem

    This game introduced me to the Zelda series and boy what an introduction it was

  • @patricksanchez1684
    @patricksanchez1684 Před rokem

    God I can’t believe it’s been 10 years…I convinced my parents to get me the LBW 3DS XL and to my dismay I found that it only came with a download code…that holiday the 3DS was one of the most bought consoles, and the internet wouldn’t connect because of traffic, and I foolishly deleted my Nintendo ID. Once holiday season was over, I lost my copy. Now 10 years later I found a physical copy with a first print case. I’ve been enjoying the nostalgia and gameplay all over again

  • @Kiyosonryo
    @Kiyosonryo Před rokem +2

    My favourite game of all time, this video is gonna be an absolute blast!

  • @solosick4172
    @solosick4172 Před rokem

    This is the game that made me a Zelda fan becuz once I beat it I finally understood what Zelda was and then I went back and played Ocarina and wind waker and I was finally able to get through it and Ive been stuck every since

  • @gabrielelachioma8911
    @gabrielelachioma8911 Před rokem +2

    One of my favourite Zelda ever! Period! I love every part of it!

  • @martinmejia1286
    @martinmejia1286 Před rokem +2

    the most underrated game in the series and one of the most underrated ever. Best 2d zelda and 2nd best zelda ever only behind Botw

  • @A_d_e_k
    @A_d_e_k Před rokem +1

    Finished today for the first time.
    First Zelda game I've really liked.
    Very good times.

  • @WCircuit7224
    @WCircuit7224 Před 8 měsíci

    That intro was emotional. Amazing job!

  • @killerk8t
    @killerk8t Před rokem

    my favorite zelda game, ever! i recently went back and beat it on hero mode, and it was the most fun i've had with any video game in a while. thanks for this, liam!

  • @miki49
    @miki49 Před rokem +1

    Best and most fair Zelda experience out there. Also the most replayable. Love its freedom and creativity.

  • @syrexio
    @syrexio Před rokem

    Ah yes, my first Zelda game, and first 3DS game. I got a limited edition Zelda 3DSXL with this game, and I still have it to this day.

  • @BuddySweyzer
    @BuddySweyzer Před rokem +1

    So this is how I'll start the new year... Happy 2023!

  • @AnvilCrawlersGaming
    @AnvilCrawlersGaming Před rokem +3

    One of my personal favorites, so excited for this video! ❤

  • @thatguyinthevoid
    @thatguyinthevoid Před 2 měsíci

    A Link Between Worlds was the first Zelda game I played, and is definitely one of my favourites in the series, and my favourite 2D Zelda. I remember having no clue about Zelda when first playing this, and it felt like a nice introduction with the way the game was designed. I doubt I would’ve gotten into the series the same way if I started with something like Link’s Awakening (amazing game though)

  • @dockingwater1713
    @dockingwater1713 Před rokem

    Funnily enough, A Link Between Worlds was the first Zelda game I ever beat and man I absolutely adore it. The dungeons, the bosses, and the wall merging were so good. The Hero Mode might be my favorite in the series thanks to having to come up with routing. However, my favorite part is the upgraded items, with the Nice Fire Rod being especially brutal, the Super Net and Lamp, being obtained by conquering the Treacherous Tower’s Advanced Mode twice, being as strong as the Level 3 Master Sword the Great Spin Attack, which you unlock by getting every Maya Mai, being one of my favorite 100% rewards in any game period.

  • @mattzilla331
    @mattzilla331 Před rokem +1

    I grew up playing a link to the past so it's definitely one of my favorite zelda games. So I ended up loving a link between worlds. The item rental system I didn't care for and just bought them all as soon as I could!

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 Před 2 měsíci +1

    i think often the binary of change and stagnation is false one. you can progress while holding on to the core essential of something. And you can keep the same thing while approaching it from another angle.
    I think nintendo is often very good at this and recognizes this. Not always, some releases are too samy or experimental, but a lot of their REAL gems keeps this balance of new and respect for tradition in mind.
    And I think that is something important in games AND in peoples personal lives. being open to change and also honoring your roots.