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i don’t think people realise that English does the same thing. You can absolutely use present tense for things like “What are you doing next weekend?”, “I’m leaving soon” or “Where are you spending Christmas this year?”. People will have no problems at all understanding that you’re talking about the future
I'm a bit disappointed that Kat didn't mention that most Finnic (sic, not solely Finnish) method of indicating present/future distinctions, namely that of using different cases for the direct object. In Finnish, if the direct object is in the partitive case, that means that either the object is not undergoing the action entirely, or that it is in the process of undergoing the action. Hence, "Syön omenaa" means "I eat some of the apple," or "I am in the middle of eating the apple,"--or more idiomatically in English, simply "I am eating the apple." If the direct object is in the accusative case, that means that the object has undergone the action completely. Since a present action is by definition uncompleted, using the present tense with an object in the accusative case indicates a future action in which the object undergoes the action completely at that future time, and thus one knows the action is not in the middle of taking place in the present. Hence, "Syön omenan" means "I will eat the apple," with the implication that the apple will be eaten completely at some future time.
I think there is nothing wrong with Kat in terms of the position of the channel. What you mentioned could be very confusing for beginners without a secure knowledge of grammar.
As I understand, 'syön omenaa' may just as well mean 'I will eat some apple' and 'syön omenan' may translate to 'I eat all of the apple' depending on the context. So the case ending is not necessarily a clear enough indication of time.
Although it is often claimed that there is no future tense in Finnish, this is not quite true. Actually there are even two ways of creating future tense: "tulen tekemään" and "olen tekevä". The former one is similar to the Swedish "kommer att göra". I sometimes thought it was taken from Swedish, but then some linguist claimed this form is present in some old dialects. The practice is that future tense is not used, when the future is otherwise obvious from the sentence. One should notice that tenses are sometimes used in a different way in different languages. For instance in German one would say "Ich bin gestern zur Arbeit gegangen" rather than "Ich ging gestern zur Arbeit" (I went yesterday to work). Using future in Finnish contains special emphasis. For instance if you say "Tulet vielä kuulemaan minusta" sounds like a threat and "Olen tekevä" makes the sentence sound very solemn. Finnish has even a tense which refers to future with respect to a time instant in the past: "oli tekevä". Paavo Rintala (Finnish author) uses this tense extensively in one of his books.
Thank you for making such very informative and easy to go along with videos. These are very helpful coz I am currently studying Finnish language using the given module. However, the instructions there are very difficult to understand, unlike yours😊. Please make more videos. I hope I can afford a tutorial from you someday.
Dude please take a online class once in a week for about 45 min . Where we all can interact with ech other and I think we will be learning finnish much more faster
11:25 yeah and you can use meinata in a joking way too, like you can ask a kid like meinasitko tehdä noin, and its like jokingly asking are you really gonna do that 4:34 Nähdään pian 10:19 what happened to aikoa? Why it converted into aion?
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i don’t think people realise that English does the same thing. You can absolutely use present tense for things like “What are you doing next weekend?”, “I’m leaving soon” or “Where are you spending Christmas this year?”. People will have no problems at all understanding that you’re talking about the future
The same in french….
I'm a bit disappointed that Kat didn't mention that most Finnic (sic, not solely Finnish) method of indicating present/future distinctions, namely that of using different cases for the direct object.
In Finnish, if the direct object is in the partitive case, that means that either the object is not undergoing the action entirely, or that it is in the process of undergoing the action. Hence, "Syön omenaa" means "I eat some of the apple," or "I am in the middle of eating the apple,"--or more idiomatically in English, simply "I am eating the apple."
If the direct object is in the accusative case, that means that the object has undergone the action completely. Since a present action is by definition uncompleted, using the present tense with an object in the accusative case indicates a future action in which the object undergoes the action completely at that future time, and thus one knows the action is not in the middle of taking place in the present. Hence, "Syön omenan" means "I will eat the apple," with the implication that the apple will be eaten completely at some future time.
I think there is nothing wrong with Kat in terms of the position of the channel. What you mentioned could be very confusing for beginners without a secure knowledge of grammar.
As I understand, 'syön omenaa' may just as well mean 'I will eat some apple' and 'syön omenan' may translate to 'I eat all of the apple' depending on the context.
So the case ending is not necessarily a clear enough indication of time.
Although it is often claimed that there is no future tense in Finnish, this is not quite true. Actually there are even two ways of creating future tense: "tulen tekemään" and "olen tekevä". The former one is similar to the Swedish "kommer att göra". I sometimes thought it was taken from Swedish, but then some linguist claimed this form is present in some old dialects. The practice is that future tense is not used, when the future is otherwise obvious from the sentence. One should notice that tenses are sometimes used in a different way in different languages. For instance in German one would say "Ich bin gestern zur Arbeit gegangen" rather than "Ich ging gestern zur Arbeit" (I went yesterday to work). Using future in Finnish contains special emphasis. For instance if you say "Tulet vielä kuulemaan minusta" sounds like a threat and "Olen tekevä" makes the sentence sound very solemn.
Finnish has even a tense which refers to future with respect to a time instant in the past: "oli tekevä". Paavo Rintala (Finnish author) uses this tense extensively in one of his books.
Very relatable thumbnail. Kiitos opettamisesta.
Hahaha glad you liked it xD
Kiitos paljon tästä videosta!!
Kiitos :)
Very good and useful lesson. Thank you!
You teach very well 👍
Kiitos!
very useful list of words and expressions
Thank you for making such very informative and easy to go along with videos. These are very helpful coz I am currently studying Finnish language using the given module. However, the instructions there are very difficult to understand, unlike yours😊.
Please make more videos. I hope I can afford a tutorial from you someday.
so useful thanks a lot kat
Kiitos!
Why dont you take a weekly online class where we all can interact with each other in finnish.
In platforms like zoom, google meet etc
I learned Estonian for a while and there people like to say the language has no sex and no future
No sex and no future? How boring!
Gracias
One can also use 'tahdon' and 'haluan' to express intention in the future.
Can you give examples for that?
@@gunesbulut8190 The same exact way you'd do it in English? - Have you ever been to Spain? - No, but I want to visit it someday.
@katChats Finnish can you help with video about conjugative ending. Like how to change verb, noun and the rest. Kiitos paljon
Thanks😍
interesting to see how "Back to the Future" movie was translated into Finnish 🤔
Paluu tulevaisuuteen
Kiitos paljon!
Kiitos paljon 😊 ymmärrettävä
Kiitos!
Very good, thank you. Talvi on tulossa! 🤫 Kiitos
U are meeting my nations challenges 🇺🇸 seriously its cool your lectures
@katChats can you make a video about using the correct ending?
Kiitos samoin ❤
Kiitos paljon
Hei Kat! Do we have the present continuous tense in Finnish or did I miss that lesson?
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"There's no future
No future
No future for you!"
--Johnny Rotten, "God Save the Queen"
Dude please take a online class once in a week for about 45 min .
Where we all can interact with ech other and I think we will be learning finnish much more faster
11:25 yeah and you can use meinata in a joking way too, like you can ask a kid like meinasitko tehdä noin, and its like jokingly asking are you really gonna do that
4:34 Nähdään pian
10:19 what happened to aikoa? Why it converted into aion?
Regarding aikoa: 'k' is dropped, so 'ai(k)on' becomes 'aion'.
Not grasping when to use menen and when menossa
I have a video about it! czcams.com/video/stBiNmP0Yes/video.html
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