6V53TT Silver Detroit Diesel first start (part1)
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Detroit Diesel Silver 6V53TT military being fired up for the very first time ever. This unit was originally assembled in 1987 but was never used and until this past year it sat the crate it was shipped in. This 53 series is one of the rare Silver units with cross head-pistons and a bypass blower. It was designed as a single turbo, but has been upgraded to a twin turbo setup. A little sluggish to come awake for the very first time, but now its a true screamin' demon!
ah yes the youtube algorithm has brough us back together friends, sit down and let us chat around the camp fire while listening to this beauty run!
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that thing is burning pretty damn clean with that twin turbo setup.
I use to work on the Detroit assembly line and make these!
That's AWESOME Don. I have a question for you if you don't mind?. 1) why are some engines Green and some Silver?.
2) being those are 2 stroke, with a bus/ coach RV application say an older GM with regular maintenance, Hwy driving, what sort of mileage can be expected from one.
Recently I've been looking into a bus conversion for semi/ full retirement travel. I found a nice coach 4 speed manual with 56k since last rebuild, what sort of reliability are 2 stroke compared to 4 strokes?.
Kind regards Eric Dee
@@thevacuumtubejunky9774 well Detroit was bought by Roger Penske so maybe when he took over that might be why . For reliability well 2 strokes have less moving parts so i would think in a diesel it doesn't make a difference! Not like a gas engine
@@clinteastwood9115 : Thank you for your reply Mr. Cooper, that makes perfect sense. I heard that the four strokes produce better and torque at lower rpm's which may be better in the long run but, yet I understand that the Detroit is a brute when it comes to diesel engines.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Kind regards, Eric Dee.
well thank you sir
@Richard Skipper 6v53 = 6cyl @ 53ci each cyl. = 318 ci
amazing how responsive the 2 strokes are...like 0 hesitation...
Damian DeLapp no flywheel that’s why it doesn’t want to idle
Has a flywheel, need it for the starter
I’m wrong it ain’t starting w no flywheel I meant clutch assy, parasitic drag from accessories etc. but yeh gotta have a flywheel
the problem with that is you need to keep them wound tight all the time. the have no power at lower RPM's so you are on the floor with them all the time. double if not more then other diesels. hence the whole screaming jimmy,
This due to it being a totally mechanical engine...
Electronics get in the way of responsiveness
It is a 2-stroke uniflow engine. The valves in the cylinder heads are all exhaust valves. The piston uncovers ports in the cylinder walls when it is near the bottom and that is for intake. The intake ducts have to be pressurized in order for the engine to run, hence the supercharger. Turbos feed the supercharger for extra power as the engine speed increases. All the EMD train locomotives use massive V12 and V16 2-stroke diesels. GE locos use 4-stroke engines.
They got a fairly smooth idle set after all but was worrying a bit about the engine temp with no coolant circulating. Nice start up. I don't do this channel any more.
With no load, they didn’t generate much heat.
@@billmoran3812 'much'!
It would take roughly 15 minutes to get it up to temp doing that
my first tractor had a 8v92ta silver 475 hp in it kw cabover, had a 24 volt starter. I didn't know what a beast it was till i got my next truck had a 400 cummins.
I love the Detroit but to be fair a 400 Cummins is called that because it has 400hp an extra 75hp of the Detroit is very noticeable when talking about diesels because the torque also increases.
i had the same in new zealand in the early 80's with a 14 speed spicer. loved that truck.
@@terryrack2534 Classic NZ 8V92TA trucking
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@@mtl-ss1538 awesome
Makes your eyes water, man I'm envious...
Nothing like a Detroit hunting on Idle.
Love that about the ole 2 stroke Detroits on cold starts they hunt for idle like a top fuel car
the modern diesels only wish they had a lope tune like that
or leaking oil.
and that one *REALLY* likes to hunt with that itty-bitty flywheel! Makes it tough to set the anti-surge screw with that little mass to carry it through.😉
The hunt is from a poor tune. And they only leak oil if assembled by a knuckle dragger. And the only silver detroit from the factory was a 92 series.
I used to change these engines in the Army, in the M730 Chap-Missile launching stations. very powerful 2 stroke engine.
@M Ishaq the Allison transmission we ran used 10.40. We ran 40 grade in engine as well. 30-40 in summer and 15-40 summer. God bless the 2 stroke.
We used two of these on U.S. Coast Guard 44 foot Motor Life Boats with a steel hull.
Best sound track of 2015
Jacob Funk Thanks!
The Detroit will always be my favorite diesel engine! Especially the v's! That sound says it all!
I love the sound of a Detroit Diesel when its idling
Detroit Diesel engines are like the Harley Davidson s of ol'. They don't leak oil. They just leave their mark.
the turbo makes it sound even better. thats something to find a brand new engine like that
It sounds like they were trying to turn a 24V starter with 12v
AWE them little bitty turbos are so cute!!!!!!!!
I used to work on the twin turbo setups in boats . They weren't common , and they usually stuffed them in , making them difficult to service . They also leaked so much oil you had better make sure it had some in it . They screamed sweetly though .
My question is where do we find the turbos these days ... I have two of these engines and all four turbos are done
@@BigJohnBatesuse gm-8 turbos from a 6.5 detroit i had one on my 6.2 and it delivered 15psi of boost on the stock fueling it got up and WENT!! 😂
I could fall asleep to that noise, I will have one someday
I've never seen a twin turbo arrangement like that on a 53 series. Even the exhaust manifolds look unusual, someone had been rummaging through the parts lists when they built that one.
This unit is factory governed at 2800, but it is actually running about 3k at max.
Use to love hearing these run near red line in the test booth while i was in AIT in 82
@halor101 Hey! That engine came with a single top mounted 6v53T turbo, but since we are putting it in a 1 ton truck we wanted to get as much overhead room as possible. The turbos we put on it are dual 353T silver turbos. I am no mechanic, but Im thinking at least the cylinder kits will have to be turbo kits and the timing may have to be changed from advanced to normal or vice versa, but as I said, Im not 100% sure of the changes needed.
I worked on these for two years in the Marine Corps they were on the lav 25 really all the variants really we got 300 horsepower out of our recovery vehicle when they're rated at 275 we did it four times and every time they took the motor from us
The info plate had this engine rated @ 300 hp with the factory turbo and injector size setup. The twin turbo setup may have bought us a few extra hp and the bigger injectors certainly have but no official dyno has been run on it yet. We expect 325 - 350 hp and somewhere in the 800ish ft./lb of torque. If we do dyno it, I will make sure to video it and show the results.
MotormasterK100 what turbos did you use?
@@jeffdavis110 Silver 3-53 turbos. Eventually, depending on a few factors, that may change to a larger size (and a complimenting larger injector).
My twins (marine in a 45 ft sport fisher) are rated 400HP and 800 foot pounds of torque, pretty insane. I got the stock twin turbos rebuilt. Believe they are Garrett R8926100 turbos and this setup uses N9830 injectors
They sure as hell don't make them like they used to. Itd be nice if Detroits and Cummins engines like these were still in trucks
0:30 "Got any fuel hooked up?" Ah no.....that's cigarette smoke you are seeing coming out the turbo. Here's your sign.
diesel mutt88 That was my thought, too.
Ehhhh.... could maybe be assembly lube if they broke it down.... but I know what your getting at
@@tjlovesrachel white smoke from a cold diesel engine is fuel that got hot enough to vaporize, but not hot enough to ignite.
jm15 yes thank you although I know this I was just trying to point a different avenue... but usually assembly lube burns blue like oil ... but I was just trying to go a different route
@@jmurphy1973 Wow turbo
I don't know shit about diesels, except for this one is bad ass.
The real tall valve covers look like a jake brake
It has a set of Jakes on it
love the sound, cute lil thing!
It seems like a lot of diesel people don't care if they are enveloped by a big cloud of smoke once in a while. Getting them running " right" is intriguing to a lot of people...and once warmed up, way less smoke.
@MotormasterK100 this gives a whole new meaning to the term first start. you being no mechanic youve done an amazing job. ive found vintage crate engines. and want to grab a few for various projects
glorious sound , worked on many GMC/Detroit 2 strokes never seen a SILVER series 6V53 tho,,NICE
How do you expect to pick that pretty little girl up without buying her a drink?????? Give her shot glass of the good stuff!!!
Keep up to great work on the videos
I loves detroit diesel engines...
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Congratulation friends.
I live on Brazil.
" You gots the fuel hooked up ? " snicker-snicker
( exhaust shows Nothing BUT unburnt fuel ! )
Rev happy 2 stroke detroit music!
Heh heh, not much flywheel on that bad boy! That would be nice in an early 50's Chevy or GMC pickup.😁😉
Flywheel weight 40 lbs on the 6v53T engine
Imagine that as a rat rod engine?? Love it!
That right there is bad ass. But, u got them baby turbo on there. They need like 60mm
Good way of popping a cylinder allowing it to melt out the seal . Especially the aluminum blocks
?? What are you even talking about? It may be silver in color, but it's still a sleeved cast iron block and heads (plus the block was filled with water when they started it)
Such a sweet beautiful baby girl!!!! Can't wait to put one in my 2002 Toyota Tacoma 4 wheel drive!!!!
Thank you!
@@MotormasterK100 sometimes even if you've got everything perfect you've got to give those baby girls a shot of ether they normally think it's yummy and they'll wake up and say howdy according to this Texas girl!!!!
In this case, and for all two stroke Detroit Diesels, the blower is required for the engine to run. The blower is there for exhaust gas scavenging. Without it the engine would smother itself.
RMC 1st MLG cheers
If GM offered the 6V53 in the Baby Fishbowl instead of the Toro Flow, GM would have had more Baby Fishbowl sales.
All with zero coolant, really smart, har!
Dam love that sound of a pissed off dd lol
Absolutely beautiful
I rode for several years in an '87 bus with the (now rare) IH DV550 V8. Another awesome sounding engine, especially with the 4-speed manual!
Yes the DV550 was one of International's better ideal (much like GM with the 5.7 Olds Diesel). The took the 549 gas engine and made a Diesel out of it. You'll notice it was not in production for very long.
I heard a jock at the big 8 cklw say something to the effect of it's time for some of that top-down Motown sound, it seems very fitting here
THAT IS SOO AWESOME !!
Beautiful engine !
No noise , this is music.
Love those Detroit V's
Awesome job :) love these engines
:32 You got any fuel hooked up? Where do u think the smoke is coming from? There is always that one guy who say that.
those engines (in single turbo form) are found on the LAVs. good little engines and quite the screamer too!
I built and dynoed these engines for Raytheon. Very cool little engines.
That thing sounds NASTY!!!! I want one!!!!!
Actually, They did use these engines in the late 70's to mid 80's Blue Bird All Americans. They had the non turbo version for the AAFE (All American Front Engine), The AARE, (All American Rear Engine) you had the turbo option. You could also get them with Cat 3208's, Cummins 555 V8's as well.
amazing sound!!!
She has got one hell of a lope
@Unlimited3406 I think they will sound great on this thing. The exhaust will be run down the sides of the truck like an old hot rod through six inch straits.
SWEET DETROIT!!! I would love to stuff that into my Chevy Blazer
Its too heavy. A 3500 or 350 would suffice. Don't be fooled by its small size,(5.2 liters) it can easily outpull a 6.4 power stroke in terms of torque
David Vermillion
I had a 4-53 Detroit in a '73 Chevy C30 years and years ago. My uncle had this motor in a '68 Chevy truck. It's a ton of work doing the conversion but with 6BTs it doesn't make sense unless for nostalgia or to be unique.
@@theq4602 how heavy is it , a 5.9 liter Cummins is 1100lbs and it came in pickup trucks from the factory
@@josephfoster3819 I think fully dressed up they weigh about 1600lbs. There were aluminum and cast iron blocks made. 1600 is the cast iron block. I forgot about the aluminum's weight but I think its around 1100.
Great engine - don't abuse it - give it some water!
Roger Tycholiz , it had water in it. We kept checking the Temps in between starts too.
I was in the GM spare parts store here in Australia many years ago and a bloke came in and said his truck with a 8v92 was using or leaking 20lt. or 5 gallons of oil per day. I thought mine was bad at 2lt per day. haha
Miss the sounds of these working.
I need this to replace the 6.5L in my suburban. Leave the cummins boys at the stoplight..
dear santa I want a version of this engine so bad I'm not picky but the 8 or 12 would be nice thank you merry Christmas
Ah yes, the oil burning boat anchors known as 2 stroke Detroits.
They sound good but ain't nothin better than a V8 from Mack or Scania (and Perkins as well)
I'm going to have to find a video of one of those old engines. Almost forgot how they sounded.
Headphone porn btw
This thing lopes like a fucking beauty
There are no intake valves.Ever time the piston comes to the top it fires.On a 4 stroke ever other time it comes up.Only 2 strokes of the piston per cycle.One up and one down on a 2 stroke.On a 4 stroke there are 4 movements.2 up and 2 down total to complete a single Full cycle.
No ecu, map, crank, cam, o2, sensors to stuff up just pure power and plenty of it, good platform for a pick up which would outlast any one.
Totally gnarly
Probably the carburetor was a bit out of balance.... LOL.
I'm not really a fan of american cars but man are Detroit diesels glorious.
Drive a 2015 Mustang GT with a manual and take it up pass 6500 rpm.
***** So..............
Bob Smith If u don't get that, u are a waste of my time.
*****
No. The waste is running an engine past 6500 RPM in a street vehicle, Einstein!
But....you go ahead & play roulette with your little toy, we know who will lose....YOU!
You not u.
Get some education before you spout off & look like a fool.
Bob Smith Dude the engine peak at 6500.
My dad had one on his double drum Wilson rig
THIS ENGINE SOUNDS FUCKEN TUFF.
very difficult to adjust a stable idle wuth such a light flywheel!
Hold the gov in stop position and spin it first
Muito bom. Difícil manutenção nesses motores???
Indeed. Two-Stroke it is.
Wow turbo
Sounds good, what turbo and injectors did you aplied?
I thought 2-stroke diesels had a Roots type blower to scavenge the air into the engine.
bad ass. just bad ass.
that thing sounds awesome!
built those out in kansas
It does have a roots style blower. It sits between the heads on top of the motor, normally below where a single turbo would have been in this application.
MotormasterK100 IP
I still have it.
that engine could of been used on a 1987 International Blue Bird School Bus 6v53 Detroit Diesel execpt 7.3lt Detroit Engine was the one that was used on the school bus!!
I guess i was wrong, thought even if u put turbs on a detroit you had to huff um thru the blower. ? Love these. Still bad ass motors F the EPA.
How long can u run it with no coolant? What is the round structure on top of the valve cover? If you had the room/time would you install intercooler, or perhaps that doesn’t matter so much with 2 stroke. Awesome sounding engine btw
It has water in it, just not any circulating. We wouldn't run it for long, and would use temp sensors to monitor various spots. The round part that says "Silver 53" is a breather. This block (to the best of my memory) has the provisions for an aftercooler. Like the larger brother series, the aftercooler goes below the blower on "top" of the airbox. Thanks for the interest!
The intercooler is under the blower. The round things on the valve covers are breathers. Needs buffer adjustment to smooth out the hunt at idle.
What an AWESOME little motor. I'd give my balls for that one.
That's an awesome motor there son, subscribed. I did a vid of my duramax and my Yanmar 3 cyl...
Am I hallucinating but the two Phillies are spinning towards each other...
No thats how the pulleys are. They are gear driven internally.
Are those both for cams?
I want that in a pickup truck...
That lope holy shit