Yamaha NEO and YEP 642 Euphonium REVIEW!!!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Yamaha Euphonium Models YEP 642 and "NEO" YEP 642 SII reviewed from my testing at the U.S. Army Tuba/Euphonium Conference in Washington D.C.
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Thank you very much for your insight. I am returning to playing and performance on euphonium after a long break from music. watching your videos has been fun and inspiring, so thank you.
Glad you enjoy videos my friend! Best of luck on your comeback and let me know if you have any questions! Best, A
Hey Matonizz. I have been a brass player (trumpet) since I was young, and now am a sophomore in high school. I recently switched to euphonium, and made the state band. I would like to invest in a good compensating euphonium for myself, instead of using the schools four valve non-compensating horn. Could you give me some recommendations on what to look for? Thanks!
Depends what you're budget looks like. If you're looking under $2000 my suggestion would be either JP274 or Wessex Dolce, If you want under $3500 my suggestion would be JP374, if you want the top line horn I would say either Sterling Virtuoso, Adams E3 or E2 (with heavy valve caps both), Yamaha Neo or Besson Prestige. I personally playing Sterling, not the easiest horn to play with but I find the sound hard to match, Adams and Neo plays much easier and has pretty tone but you can't put just as much air through without messing the sound at least to certain extent, besson is kind of in between. Hopefully that gives you some clue of at least what I recommend to my students. You can get a nice discount for some of these horns at the moment as well. Let me know if you have any more question my friend! Best, Algirdas
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I can't wait for you to upload your impressions on the Wessex Dolce Euphonium. I am a freshman in college and I have been playing on a Besson Sovereign made in England from the mid 2000s before they started manufacturing in Germany. It is a great horn and I got it for a real steal a couple years ago but I am still curious if it is the best horn for me. I went to a conference recently and had a chance to try the Jupiter XO and Eastman euphonium. In that small test, I actually liked how the XO played better than my Sovereign but didn't like the Eastman at all. The Dolce is compelling with so many great reviews from experienced players including David Werden and the fact that it is only $1440 for the top of the line silver and gold trim. Also it almost seems like a no-brainer to take the chance and buy one since there is a 14 day satisfaction return policy. Looking forward to your review!
I currently play one 642 (well it's a buds that I am holding hostage haha) and where it is a solid horn, I feel like I've overgrown it. The neo feels to me like a revamped 642 (and it really is). Seems to me the neo series is the "let's reintroduce the 642 and forget the old model" line. My personal opinion is that anyone looking for a Yamaha to consider a neo over the standard 642. Keep it up man! You hit some key notes (no pun intended) that made me think "ok so I'm not the only one thinking that". Can't wait for the next video!
Thanks brother! Glad you enjoy my work!
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thank you so much for this review, been looking at the Neo for a while, and this video was a great help!
Sure buddy!
Hey. Another great review. Sometimes the background music seems a bit distracting when you are talking maybe it could be mp or it might just be me. Great Stuff Dude.
Thanks man, will keep that in mind, thanks for the feedback buddy!
Also, any particular moments or just generally?
Generally I would say but especially during your opening presentation just a bit distracting when trying to focus on the great information you are providing.
Got it, thanks for the feedback man, will definitely sort that out it future!
Hey man, great video and review. I have a question. How did you even become a professional euphonium player and what does it take do become one?
Hey buddy, glad you find the videos useful! Also, great question! I guess the story is pretty long here so I'll do a vlog video at some point. But generally, I did my undergraduate in UK, Manchester. Third year I started entering some competitions and I won a pretty big one which was Foden's Open Solo competition. As a part of a prize Besson was supposed send me to Australia to represent UK at Ern Keller's solo competition but that got cancelled. To compensate for it they gave me a tour with River City Brass the upcoming year. By around third year I really started bumping up my activities trying to get some performances in Europe. I did a lot of those for free and tried making as many contacts as possible and leaving positive impressions everywhere I went. I got a deal with Sterling in 2014 and after I went to play with River City, they needed a euphonium player. The conductor liked what he heard so he offered me the gig. In 2015 I moved to USA and so far haven't looked back. Obviously, these is way more to it but that's generally how things went. I'll try do a video maybe talking about this a bit more in future. Hope that answers the question mate!
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Thanks for the info! I am really thinking about going into music as a career but 90% of my opinions are playing in the military. I would like to find out other options for playing professionally. This was very helpful!
Job such as military band will pay off the living and help you keep on improving your playing skills. On top you will be able explore other music options until you find your ideal music career. If you're not planning on teaching in university or play in military band you don't need to study music to achieve career in music. Go study something which will actually help you to achieve your goal like business, marketing, videography and etc. Think outside the box brother ;)
That is true! I would like to know all of my opinions before I decide what to go into. Thanks again for all of the information! This really helped me out out. I am sure that I will have more for you in the future! :)
I'm really loving these videos I always get excited when they come up. I'm personally playing on an Adams e1 with a trigger
Thanks buddy! Nice horn and YES for trigger!
Hey man, I'm currently looking for a professional euphonium for college that has great intonation, a rich dark sound, and one that can project really well. My price range is around 6 to 7 thousand dollars and I don't really know which would be best born to choose. Would you possibly know a horn that would fit that criteria? Thanks
Hey buddy! There are many great choices you could go with for that price range. I'd say Sterling Virtuoso, Adams E2 and E3 (with heavy valve caps) and Yamaha Neo would be frontrunners. I myself like Virtuoso a lot. It's not the easiest horn to play on but sound and projection wise I would argue that it has an edge over most of the euphoniums if not all. If I wasn't doing brass band and I was only focusing on solo work I could see where horns like Adams would work really well. However, go with either of these four models. They are all different so I will recommend trying them yourself to see which one you prefer. With that in mind, if you do decide to get a virtuoso feel free to shot me an email and I'll help you to figure out a good deal both playing and pocket wise. Sorry if that wasn't defined to one horn and I don't want to blow smoke and say that one of them is hands down better. They are all good horns but people have different tastes and styles of playing. Hope that helps my friend and let me know if you have any other questions. Best, Algirdas
do a review on schiller jinbao and some other "off" brand euphoniums.
Funny that you've mentioned. I've just tried jinbao this morning. Will do one for sure my friend!
Any thoughts of doing a review about using lefreque plates?
That's an interesting one. I've got 8 more instrument review videos coming and then mouthpiece videos following. Might be a good topic for future. For now, please spend your money by buying your wife, girlfriend, mother or someone else flowers, dinner or a small gift rather than spending hundreds of dollars on couple metal strips. The price is ridiculous for what you get out of it :D Useless? No! Overpriced. YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope that gives you a clue on what my review would look like. However, if you ever get your hands on one for free or very cheap you might find a couple of notes in bottom and high range more centered if you play Besson. Do you have any experience with this lefreque? Sorry if I sound negative but I'd rather people not get robbed :) I've seen the process when they were developing the thing since I studied at RNCM back then and I know you can buy metal strips at the store which will do the job for $10 or less. Just saying :)
Hi! Not really related to the vid, but in the US, I've seen most tuba players playing CC tubas. Is it bad to play an Eb tuba in America? Just wondering cause I'm a student that's going to need a tuba soon, and I kinda want a Eb. If you can give me advice that would be appreciated! :)
Hey! The reason why they do C tubas and even C trumpets mainly in US is because most of the universities are heavily focused on Symphony Orchestra playing and that's what they use in U.S. as oppose to Bb in a lot of European countries. Eb is what is often used in brass bands so it pretty much depends on where you live and what are you planning to do. I assume you're not from US?
I'm from the US, I'm just a student that was wondering the difference :) Thanks!
Got it, no worries. Well, Eb is not as common practise then, I guess you already noticed. If you have any brass bands around you might find a use for it :)
Hey, great video you do a great job showing off the pros and cons of the instrument. I'm going into college and I'm not sure how much I should be paying for a Euphonium. I mean I don't need like the best Euphonium in the world but definitely a more advanced instrument than the baby Yamaha the school let me use. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks for kind words my friend! In terms of not over spending, nowadays you can find some really good cheaper options. I'm pretty high on JP horns. I have JP274 and JP374 in my house which I've been testing for a while and I think they're are fantastic more affordable option. Check the link down below and you'll see me play JP274. www.dfmusicinc.com have them in stock and you can have 10% with my promo code which makes it even more affordable. The only downside to those horns are valve guides. They are not very durable but on the flipside they are extremely cheap and very easy to replace. Both of those horns would do really well for college. Hope that helps my friend. Feel free to let me know if you have any more questions. Best, Algirdas
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Okay thank you so much!! I will definitely check them out. You will make any instrument sound good though :P lol but I trust your opinion.
i am a euphonium player in malaysia. My school band has got a besson to lend us but i want to get an instrument for myself for my college days. any recommendations?
What kind of budget are we talking about my friend? That would help narrowing down the list
I really would like a review/opinion of the Yamaha 8042s. Any chance of that? Also, have you ever tried the Lafreque plates?
I actually played 8042s in couple of concerts this year. My assistant euphonium at River City plays on it. It plays pretty easy and seems to have generally a pretty good longevity. However, it definitely has some tuning unbalance between low and high range and might be tricky to tune well unless you are pretty good using trigger and do have one on yours. Also, the sound is a bit on a thin side in comparison to Neo, at least from my experience. In terms of Lafreque, that's a whole new story :D probably worth making a whole video on. If I ever do another video on Yamaha I'll ask my guy to lend me his horn and I'll record some playing so people can judge themselves. Thanks for watching Ronald and best of luck my friend!
Hey. Idk if you saw my last comment but I'm in 8th grade and one of our best players. I'm going into high schools and their second highest band. Are there any euphoniums and mouth pieces for this
Hey buddy, I believe I made a reply for that, check it out my friend ;)
Matonizz ok thanks
Could you(or anybody) give me your opinion on the geneva horns
(especially Cardinal and Symphonie)
Haven't tried it yet unfortunately. But if I did, I will make a review video. Sorry if not much of a help my friend
@@Matonizz Thank you for the very fast answer! That would be great if you could test one. I live in Germany and it can be quite a hassle to find shops where you can test Euphoniums.
Hey matonizz, I play trombone as I primary instrument, although I also play tuba and euphonium in some ensembles. I would like to ask your opinion on mouthpiece placement. Where do you put yours for different ranges? Thanks in advance!
I usually don't mess around much with placement, I just focus that the gap would be centered to the shank pipe. That being said I do change the angles. So when I go higher I usually try to take the pressure away from the top lip as much as possible and vise versa when going down. Check the two links down below, I explain that in a more detailed fashion. Let me know if you have any questions about those two my friend!
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Those videos were very helpful, thank you. I noticed in some videos that your lip openings is very close to the bottom of the mouthpiece. I do that as well, although I have had teachers disagree on where it should be. Is it okay to have my lip opening towards the bottom of the mouthpiece?
Usually upper lip is thicker than the lower. You want both upper and lower lips to be placed inside the cup with the gap facing the shank. Since the upper lip is thicker naturally you will need more space for it and therefore it might visually appear that the opening is more towards the bottom. As long as it's not vise versa it's ok, it will look different from player to player due to different lip size but generally the embouchure will be on the lower side of the mouthpiece. Hopefully that makes sense.
do a review on schiller jinbao and some other "off" brand euphoniums. im looking for one to buy but i only have like a 600$ price range
Look into the jp instruments then. You can get a discount for them at the moment with the promo code and should be able to fit into around 600 hopefully. Will do jinbao for sure in future
yep 642 or wessex dolce?
I was always under the impression that the Neo was simply a "generation" of the 642, with the Maestro and such before it.
Is there any relationship between the two?
Yep, I just call it Neo for convenience. The full title is Yamaha YEP 642 SII Neo
Matonizz Okay, I was just making sure I wasn't completely wrong 😂
Oh no man, you're completely correct. I even wrote it down with full title in the description box. Hopefully it won't confuse anyone :)
Oh I didn't see the description, sorry! Thank you for taking the time to help me haha. It makes more sense now
No problem at all!
I am in trying to buy a new euphonium, what do you recommend if I have no price contraints?
My favorite options would be Sterling Virtuoso, Adams E3 or E3 (with heavy valve caps!!!), Yamaha Neo, Besson Prestige 2052. Each are different but they are all pretty good for sure :)
Matonizz are those in any particular order?
Hello Matonizz! What can you tell me about Sterling Royale euphonium?
With all honesty, this is the first time I've heard about it. I even had to google it :D Seems like the only thing I can tell you about Sterling Royale is that I should probably do more research on it. It's a bit embarrassing :D Sorry for not being much of help but that's a new model in my dictionary
No problem Matonizz! I think it's an entry level. I wanted to know if she kept at least the characteristics of the Virtuoso, if it could be an alternative to Sovereign 967. Thank you for having responded to me.
I am Japanese. I like your videos, but I do not understand English. Will you give me subtitles? (Google translation)
Is the parker 5g good for marching?
It's definitely not going to be bad. It helps to project, however, I'm brassbander rather than marcher so can't say that parker is best for marching with 100% confidence. Solo, brass band, military band - yes, my favorite mouthpiece at the moment. You will definitely not going to get a crappy mouthpiece though ;) Sorry if that didn't completely answer the question but just don't want to mislead you buddy!
Do you use the parker 5g?
Yeah man, since 2014 :)