Why Copenhagen is Extremely Well Designed
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- Copenhagen, Denmark is oftentimes referred to as the gold standard in urban planning and design. And here's why.
Sources: JOSÉ PEDRO DE FREITAS FALCÃO DOS REI. "Urban Structures and Mobility. A case-study in Copenhagen." Porto University. repositorio-aberto.up.pt/bits...
Inspiration: @RealLifeLore @johnnyharris @hoogyoutube
I think you should have consulted with some locals on this. There are a bunch of small misunderstandings and misconceptions that would be easy for a local to correct. The population number, the confusion of the 5 finger plan and the thousand year old structure of the inner city, bridges marked where there are none, images only of the most touristed place and none of the areas relevant to the content, etc.
Please take more care with future videos. I think if you take more care and make sure to sanity check with locals, there’s a lot of potential.
Thank you, I agree completely. It seems that some of my research was outdated which led to some confusion. I will work to improve this for future videos.
Most of the imagery towards the end of the video is from the Netherlands, not Copenhagen.
@@MrLoftyDreams Yes images from the Netherlands, is really misleading in this, and i dont really think Denmark copy their cycling culture, we already had it because of smaller distances and the price of cars. And having a Car in Copenhagen isen´t that easy because lack of parking space and free parking. many locations can be reached faster with a bike when you dont need to find parking for the car and having to walk a long distance from where you had to park.
@@simonbach3618 cycling infrastructure in the Netherlands mainly kicked off during the 60s/70s because of protests against cars killing pedestrians/cyclists, but I am not sure what happened in Denmark to make cycling easier than driving. Although I am fairly certain that being faster by bike than by car/not having car parking is a design choice rather than a cause for people choosing to bike. (source: being Dutch and therefore having had a Dutch education and some videos from NotJustBikes)
@@MartMonster think it is for the same reasons. I newer really wantet a car living in the capital, eaven tho I could.
It is true that the municipality of Copenhagen has around 600.000 residents. But it is misleading to mention that number just after showing a map of the greater copenhagen area with the five-finger-plan. The number you are looking for is 1.345.000 resident of Storkøbenhavn wich is split up in a number of smaller municipalities. I used to live a few hundred metres form the edge of the Copenhagen municipality but the suburbs would extend about 15 kilometres further out of the city. And I am not talking about the towns closely connected to Copenhagen but an actualt continuous urban area.
Actually the fingeres of the five-finger-plan extends further than Storkøbenhavn. So most of the towns of the fingeres are not even counted in with the 1.345.000. Storkøbenhavn is more or less only the hand of the five-finger-plan looking at a map.
Nyhavn, Nyhavn and more Nyhavn. Not a single image of Frederiksberg, Nørrebro, Valby, Østerbro, Amager. Copenhagen is more then just the tourist trap that is Nyhavn
Det er fordi resten af KBH er en kæmpe øjebæ som fuldstændigt ville underminere videoens budskab. Videoens redaktør har endda fra 5:31 valgt at vise billeder fra hollandske byer i stedet for, fordi det er umuligt at finde pæne billeder fra KBH der får den til at ligne en pæn by der er rar at bo i.
I agree completely. Unfortunately, because of Nyhavn’s popularity, it has all of the pictures. I couldn’t find any copyright free photos of other districts. I apologize.
@@Deepside Next time you could ask people on Reddit if they have taken photos :) I’m sure people around the world would love to share their city.
@@achris2249 that's a really good idea, thank you!
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I live in LA and have visited Copenhagen. LA will never be desiresble like Copenhagen because it is a society where crime and poverty is everywhere and well past the point of returning to the world class city it once was.
Well, red-lining and other aspects of institutional racism that divid up Americans city & geography design, will/did increase poverty this making crime & inequality spike. Also, the suburbs shouldn’t exist.
I have never been to LA, so I cannot weigh in on the social issues, but correcting poor city planning is possible, it is expensive, and requires real effort, on behalf of more than just the rich, whom can afford to lobby for their desires.
You need to take into account the needs of the poor, the middle class, and the rich, as a whole. Make it feel safe for all involved to mingle. and make everything feel cozy, and open, you need to it feel safe to walk around all hours of the day.
It seems insane to construct a city around a car, cars transport to few people, for the size of the vehicle. A car pollutes. And needs a gas station for refueling, that requires large amounts of gasoline to be transported in.
It is really all about planning around people first, look at what they need, make everything as accessible as possible, make every waste easily disposable, (therefor easy to recycle)
But yes, a system takes time to mature. to find the small things you miss that cock up everything, but the sooner you start, the sooner you see progress, if you subscribe to the notion it can't change, then it won't change.
@@mortenbork6249 Everything you said is correct. LA and the U S in general has not made the necessary investments in infrastructure, safety net programs, pensions, health care, etc. Everything here is based on out of control unbridled capitalism where every person is on their own. This has been entrenched in our society since the 1600's well before the revolution. Rugged individualism has been infoctrinated into our culture so it's easy to manipulate that part of society that never had an opportunity to receive a college level education. Also many people, if not most, have never had a passport. So there only point of reference is what they see and hear in the U S. This is much more prevalent in the center of the country where those entrenched ideas of individuality and ideology are more common. Unfortunately with the rise of the extreme right we are seeing this unbridled out of control capitalism becoming more popular. Many in the U S, especially in the coastal states, are more open to more social programs such as Universal health care, child care, workers rights, etc. Even though LA is a very liberal city they have moved so far left that they will excuse bad behavior or treat crime to a lesser degree if such behavior is done by a minority group. An example is special.order 40 which prohibits law enforcement from holding an undocumented person and working with the Federsl immigration autnorities. Another example is giving free health care and drivers licenses to people here illegally. Just think how that makes a legal resident or citizen feel who has to pay excessively high health care costs or someone who has a car accident with an illegal immigrant who is not even here kegally. They are given these benefits at the same time that we have 40;000 homeless living on our streets. So the bottom line is that the left in LA has embraced this "woke ideology. . But the state and Federal govt do nothing to promote or build affordsble housing and allow the luxury housing developers to build just enough expensive housing to accommodate those who can afford it. It really is a mixed bag when you think about it. The bottom line is that the U S is split right down the middle and everyone has joined their tribes. You are either a woke liberal . or you are an extreme conservative. The common sense moderate who tries to see things in a pragmatic way and not blinded by strict ideology a thing of the past. That's the camp I'm in and I am in the small minority.
Thank you for the video! As a dane, I am proud to see more people giving copenhagen the recognition it deserves. This was amazing, considering you were working from copyright free images. Good job, you earned a new subscriber.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it. Copenhagen is a wonderful city!!
Natural gas is usually a fossil fuel. It has more hydrogen to carbon vs. coal but still. Copenhagen is nice. I have lived and biked in Helsinki, Stockholm and here in Los Angeles. In most of Helsinki nature is very close and it is not parks, it is wild forest with jogging, biking or riding trails, but the rest is left as is.
I noticed that too. Perhaps he misstated the fact that much of the gas used in Copenhagen comes from the processing of their waste. They might be burning methane, or any other associated byproduct that comes with waste recycling. While burning methane isn't great either, it's still better than drilling into the ground and burning dead dinosaurs.
@@kittyspritzer799 There was quite a bit of misinformation or misunderstandings in this video, as someone living in Copenhagen I can clear up a few of them:
1. Copenhagen (and large parts of Denmark as a whole) don't rely just on natural gas, but in large parts on wind farms and distance heating from green waste powerplants. In fact my apartment doesn't use natural gas at all. The entire country has been shifting to green energy sources for decades now, with Copenhagen being at the forefront with its off-shore windfarms that have existed since year 2000.
If you want to look more into the waste energy generation and recycling, you can look up "Copenhill" which is the major waste recycling powerplant with a ski slope on its roof located in Copenhagen. It's one of the most advanced waste plants in the world and their methods of energy production and emission capture is quite fascinating. As is the idea of a ski slope on the roof ^^
One of the main reasons why Copenhagen is so clearn, is because over 60% of daily commuting is done with bicycle, supported by the extensive bicycle infrastructure (which has always been world leading for centuries (literally). First bike lane opened in the late 1800's and in 1907 the recorded number of bicycles in Copenhagen had already been noted above 80,000. Cycling has always been the core of Copenhagen and today hosts over 400km of dedicated bicycle lanes across the inner city. This also means that the rest of public transportation is designed to accommodate bicycle usage, and you'll find dedicated bike areas in the metro / trains, and there'll be bike garages on most transit stations and subway stations for people to park their bikes safely in between commutes.
All this in turn frees up tons of space on the roads so car drivers spend less time in traffic and flow is more efficient and less polluting as a result. Still room for improvement, but I have yet to see another large city with comparably well oiled infrastructure.
When my dog died i read a magazine with an article of the five-fingerplan in the excact moment, the veterinarian told us that there were nothing left to do. Its a core memory, not traumatizing, but wierdly following me, whenever i think of the five fingerplan
I am sorry for your loss. It is interesting the things that we remember and make connections to.
There are no trams In Copenhagen (and there was not for long time). Copenhagen also suffers from traffic congestion much like most other busy cities. The Metro of Copenhagen is though rather brilliant especially with its new addition if a full Metro ring.
Copenhagen have had bike roads for decades and btw it was Dutch architects who helped rebuild Copenhagen after the big fire. Denmark is a bike country just like the Netherlands - at least it’s nothing new.
Wonderful insight, thank you!
Dane here! 🇩🇰👋
0:42 Actully there is 1.3 million people living in copenhagen today (2022) and around 600k in 2017
Great video!👍
Thank you! Yes, my sources were outdated. Sorry about that! I will be working to improve my research and make sure everything is accurate for the future.
No that is also misleading - from your numbers it seems that CPH doubled in population over 5 years, which is simply not true.
The different numbers comes from how you count the population. Theres a difference between the city of Copenhagen and Copenhagen Metropolitan area
After many years without, we are now reintroducing tram-lines in the roads in Cph (Now named, "letbaner"!) I'm old enough to have hated the trams in Nørregade and other places in Cph, for being rather not so flexible, but it may function as they mostly now crosses roads and run along in the middle?
This is super interesting. Thank you for the insight!
I sadly never got to experience classic trams, so I love them for what they are now and would love to be able to go back and experience them.
The new Lightrail we're getting here in the urban area of copenhagen/greater copenhagen is great because it will only be on the road when crossing it to shift sides or getting across intersections, so it will not be affected by the rush hour, plus it'll be able to carry more passangers than the bus route it's taking over.
@@Masterfighterx This is super interesting, thank you for sharing!
i love seeing buildings in videos ive worked on, im a murer (stonemason) here in denmark copenhagen and got the chance to work in Nyhavn on one of the orange buildings
This is fascinating to hear! Super cool!
Very informative.
I'm glad to hear that !
Very informative video. But it is not true that "natural" gas is not a fossil fuel. It is different perhaps from oil or coal, but it creates just as much GHG as any other fossil fuel -- more if it is produced by fracking.
Thank you. This is true that natural gas is a fossil fuel, however the co2 and pollutants per energy gain is much lower for natural gas than other sources such as coal and oil.
@@Deepside It's not just co2 to worry about. The methane released into the atmosphere from natural gas production is of enormous concern: www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#methane
Good vid otherwise!
Lol methane is far worse.
@@Deepside Natural gas is not sustainable. It's not getting us to a final state. And building infrastructure for natural gas is largely a horrible waste because it will need to be decommissioned in the very near future. Anything that isn't degrowth and moving towards renewables is just ensuring that people will be worse off as the EROI and surplus energy per capita decreases not to mention climate change. Lots of great things about this video. I'm a huge urbanist myself and talk about these same issues from a consent perspective so I'm always excited to see more channels talking about these things but given that so many people get their information from youtube/podcasts etc we have to be more careful and not just promote fossil fuel industry propaganda. Also natural gas releases massive amounts of methane with is worse and is also considered to be one of the worst pollutants for childhood respiratory illnesses and the development of asthma.
@@consentacademy thank you for these excellent points. this is all very appreciated and will help me improve as an academic.
Nice video ,,,,, yes Netherlands and Denmark draw on each of their experiences ,,,,, dont have any knowledge specificly that “the snake” was built or influenced by the Dutch though ,,,,
By the way “the snake” was NOT shown in the video !!!!!
Thanks! I do recognize this. "The snake" was not shown due to lack of royalty free images of it, therefore I tried to get the idea across with similar bike bridges.
this video had a few irrelevant flaws but over all it was amazing
Much appreciated, thank you :)
I from Denmark ❤🇩🇰
The lat 30 seconds was the Netherlands if I'm not mistaken? Nice video though!
those images at the end are the Netherlands....
Nice
Thanks!
Good vid
Thank you!
Theres No trams in copenhagen, but there is a metro system
Sorry, my research must be outdated. I am working to improve my research methods for future videos.
The trams are coming back in 2025 though, so you are kind of right.
Good video. Sadly Copenhagen doesn't have trams yet.
Men I 2025 for vi dem
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS COPENHAGEN I LOVE YOU
nice
We don't have trams
Nyhavn færgekro er rigtig hyggeligt spot i Nyhavn!
Great video
Thank you, I appreciate it.
È il modello della città borghese europea bellezza!
Did yo see that Dalek at 2:50 ?!!
Great video Deepside 👍
thank you!!
this is something that annoys me..
You say Copenhagen in the thumbnail, but put a map of all of Denmark, and not just the city.
The danes have been creating bicycle-friendly roads across the country long before the Netherlands!
You need to make the distinction between refuse and waste collected for recycling and total waste. In Denmark our statistics are split into collected for recycling, of which the vast majority of waste is actually recycled(altough, certain categories still aren't recycled very much, such as plastic waste), and waste produced. For certain fractions there are huge differences in waste produced and waste collected for recycling. So be careful with the statistics you look at.
Great feedback, thank you. As I have mentioned in other threads, my research seemed to be the area that I lacked in most with this video. My future videos are working to make research my top priority so that all information is up to date.
@@Deepside Great to hear. But don't be too hard on yourself. This differentiation is only something that i realized myself while working on a project about waste management in Denmark at my university
Were the guy that made this video high? "Denmark is wonderfully designed," the narrator says, and meanwhile the video shows a Dutch city, I think - at least it's certainly not a Danish one.
Please check your sources… not everything in your clip is correct - however, a nice video…
Thank you, will do!
"Denmark is wonderfully designed" :*shows video of germany*
Time stamp
@@goodguyguy5022 5:38
Cool video once again
thank you :)
fucking great video i lived in copenhagen my whole life and didnt know any of this shit
Inspirational!
Thank you!!
"Copenhagen" "shows denmark"
Danmark er det bedste. jeg er ligeglad hvad andre siger
You talk about Copenhagen but your video shows Amsterdam !!!
I am not aware of this...where in the video does it do this?
@@Deepside 3:38 That is Amsterdam.
@@Brozius2512Nah its Copenhagen, theres even written "Nyhavn Færgekro" on one of the buildings.
@@mikkelhelstrup4989 sorry wrong time stamp, at the end of the video it shows Amsterdam.
@@Brozius2512 ah cool. It's totally alright, just wanted to point it out to you:)
Correction: There are no trams in Copenhagen.
used too be a long time ago
@@CIeaner23 True, but this video is about Denmark today
@@filosof2408 true that true that
I don't know where you got 600.000 from
As of 2017, the population of Copenhagen is roughly over 600,000.
It is true that municipality of Copenhagen has 600.000 inhabitants. The city also comprises the suburb municipalities, though, where the finger plan is being developed (this is outside the 130-year-old maps shown), so the contiguous city area has 1.550.000 inhabitants.
@@troelspeterroland6998 Thank you for this insight, I apologize for the misinformation.
@@Deepside No problem, It's not wrong but maybe needs more context.
There are more than 600K people in Copenhagen. And Copenhagen doesn't have trams.
It sounds really nice and I would love to visit the city one day. However I am not convinced that is considered as well designed yet. Copenhagen is still a small city with few challenges to deal with. To me, a well designed city has to have at least the ability to handle a vast number of residents (20+ million) seamlessly. I have been to Amsterdam, and while I love the vibe of the city, it is only good for a small number of people around a small area. Going cross town is still not a good thing despite it is not large. As I mentioned, a well designed city should be able to make it livable for at least 20 million people, including the ability to offer residents to move around the whole city seamlessly in an hour or so. There is no city I know that can do this, though that would be my dream city. The only one that comes close to that is Tokyo. I can go crosstown in a little more than one hour, and this is a 37-million metropolis. If Copenhagen can squeeze 6 times the population of Denmark in its city and still provides such lifestyle, then I will bow to them.
Interesting points. Can I ask why you base a well designed city off of the carrying capacity?
Perhaps a quality of a well designed city is that it realizes that population density is important. You can't mash so many people together. If there were 6 times the people in copenhagen, the quality of life here would be much worse. I live in copenhagen, and i like it. Too many cars in my opinion , yet only a small percent of what is seen in US cities, but i'm just critical.
More cities should be like here.
You're using the population numbers for the Tokyo metropolitan area, not the city itself. Tokyo proper has a population just shy of 14 million. The 37-million number includes _several dozen_ other cities. The Copenhagen metropolitan area has a population of around 2.1 million -- though it is also central to the Øresund Region, which includes parts of Scania in Sweden, which doubles the population to around 4.1 million. The city itself has a population of 1.366 million. (The 600,000 from the video would only cover the Copenhagen Municipality, which is only part of the city.)
If your goal is simply crossing from one end of the city to another, you can cross the Copenhagen metropolitan area in around 20 minutes by train -- stopping 10 times along the way.
There is _no_ city in the world that has 20 million people. Your criteria makes no sense -- there is no need for cities to be able to host 20 million people.
Your claim that Copenhagen is a "small city" is rather silly. If Copenhagen was in the US, it'd rank in the top ten most populous cities in the country. If you rank it by metropolitan areas (and you use the Øresund Region, which is likely the most comparable), it'd rank around 15. If you insist on only the lesser number of 2.1 million, it'd still rank as the 35th.
It’s Copen”HEY”gen
not Copen”HARK”gen
that thumbnail is so painful
From a Dane, who lived quite a few years in Copenhagen.. Almost everything in this video is wrong...
Population, according to Wikipedia, is over 1.3 million, or 3.37 for the metropolitan area. I don't know where you got 600k from. I stopped watching after you stated that natural gas isn't a fossil fuel. At least we can agree that Copenhagen is a wonderful city.
cool!
So many mistakes in this video. Just take this one sentence alone: "This is due to their shift towards natural gas as opposed to fossil fuels." What?
I am so bored with all the pictures of only Nyhavn, which is a small and very touristy part of Copenhagen. There are multiple misconceptions in this video that would have easily been avoided by asking a dane (any dane would have had the correct info you needed)
It is so nice of the world around us, that you think we bike for the environment, but I would actually contribute most biking to economy - cars are ridiciously overpriced in DK with at more than 100% tax and parking lots in Copenhagen are pricy as well.
Biking is by far the fastest and easiest way for Copenhageners to travel. Public transport is annoying and expensive, and driving is a hazzle because of all the one way streets and pedestrian streets in the city centre. It might be good for the environment to bike, but I think most danes bike for mainly economical and practical reasons.
thank you for the feedback and insight. much appreciated!
It's well designed, but it's got to be one of the most poorly zoned cities in the world. The entire city center is almost purely mixed medium-density residential with low-density commercial as buildings over a certain height are forbidden city-wide. To add salt to the wound, a huge percentage of the city center consists of historically protected buildings. Developers have literally had to reclaim artificial peninsulas and islands to be allowed to get around the mess that is Copenhagen zoning policy.
Why is that bad? You ask people (even americans) where they want to live, and they love the idea of living in a walkable medium density city with rich culture, parks, history and shops and restaurants everywhere. You've basically just defined Copenhagen.
The artificial peninsula thing... egh... I hate that idea so much. As I see it, that's part of a new movement that is myopic in it's scope, trying to capitalize on a bygone city building tradition. I wish they would just sod off and build their "utopia" on a field somewhere, like regular urban sprawl. I don't even live in Copenhagen, btw :D
@@christianpetersen163 The problem is not aesthetics but the fact that these zoning policies are quite simply not expedient for the purposes of living space, commercial access and provision of public services. Why do you think we have a housing crisis that many say is one of the biggest housing bubbles in Europe?
as a inhabitant of copenhagen, i can comment this: i hate copenhagen. Much better to live in less urbanised areas such as Allerød, Vallensbæk, Hedehusene or Slagelse.
TAKE THAT SWEDEN
You may want to try and make your content a bit more original. Channels like this pumping out city planning videos in the exact same generic formula are a dime a dozen. They just become boring and you need to find a way to add original flair instead of it just looking like a copy of a copy.
I do agree that this video is slightly less original than my other ones. However, I only did this video because it was a topic that genuinely interested me. I greatly appreciate the feedback, though. I have been working on my next video for weeks now, and I believe it is very unique so stay tuned for that and let me know what you think when it comes out!
I live in Denmark and I wont to live i LA
bike lanes a dutch invention...? ahh think not...
I don't believe I said this?
Copenhagen is a nightmare if you work hard and need a car and sleep at night to do so - and it keep getting worse. After 20 years I've had enough and I move to the countryside in central Zealand.
Thank you for the insight. In hindsight, I should have contacted locals when doing the research for this video. The info in this video is based on the design philosophy of the city. Compared to other cities, it does quite well.
All urban environments are bad for drivers. If a city is designed to maximize car throughput, then you end up with six lane monstrosities that are _still_ bad for drivers because everyone has to drive and thus block each other's paths in traffic jams. All places I've lived in Copenhagen have been quiet in the night except for a few days in the summer, but that could also be true for more rural places if the neighbour decides to hold a garden party.
@@nicolaim4275 it is posible to plan a good urban environment both for cars bikes and people that walk..
it is just hard to do in a old city..
the exits on the highway just needs to be close to where people live or shop so they dont drive through the whole city to get there..
and highways near citys should be underground or closed, so they can be used as a part of the city, insted of bieng a problem to the city
where people live or shop there should be a max speed of 30 km and the road going to that place from the highway is 50-60 km per hour..
the rest is a matter of city planning and mixing rich and poor and supporting local shops and bissneses
it is posible to make in most of dk, exept from cph..
the fact that cph have sea on one side, also fucks alot up..
everyone have to come from the same direction more or less (unless you are rich)
This isn’t very accurate in some ways
The last images of the video are not in Copenhagen, but in the Netherlands. Also you only show photos from the city center. Not from any of the five fingers. Poorly made video.
There is to many bikes in Copenhagen.
No there isn't lol. There's way too many cars though.