Elon Musk and Y Combinator President on Thinking for the Future - FULL CONVERSATION
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- The C.E.O. of SpaceX and Tesla, Elon Musk, and Y Combinator president Sam Altman foresee tech’s next innovations. Moderated by Andrew Ross Sorkin, of The New York Times and CNBC.
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Elon Musk and Y Combinator President on Thinking for the Future - FULL CONVERSATION - Zábava
01:35 To Elon: what company would you start now?
03:05 To Elon: genetics & death?
03:48 To Elon: living forever? How long?
04:15 To Sam: where would you invest?
05:08 To both: where does energy fit into the future?
06:43 Nuclear: fusion & fission
09:30 Nuking Mars
11:05 Why live on Mars?
12:20 What's wrong with Earth that living on Mars is needed?
13:58 Life beyond Earth?
15:55 Are we all living in a simulation?
18:27 How far away are we from living in VR?
19:33 Model X -- how many people will buy it?
20:45 Model Y & 3 deleted tweet
21:44 To Sam: make the case for Tesla
22:50 To Elon: do you think of Tesla as a software company?
23:18 To Elon: hidden autonomous functionality?
24:26 Sam: full autonomous timeline
26:09 Age of entrepreneurs
27:59 Every person has only one great idea?
30:27 To Elon: how do you run two companies at one time?
31:22 Innovation in politics; voting on our phone; who do you like?
33:33 How corrupt is government contracts for space launches?
34:43 To Elon: Government subsidies; could your companies survive without subsidies?
37:06 Public questions begin
37:24 AI: positive vision of AI's impact on human life
39:32 Society not valuing the process of discovery?
40:35 To Elon: Hyperloop; opinions on California transportation
43:17 To Sam: Is business innovation slowing outside software?; To Elon: would Tesla/SpaceX succeed if your first company
45:20 Sam to Elon: is it true you ran out of money starting the companies?
46:39 Re charity, what will you give your money to?
I love you
Kudos for making this
+Michael Caruso thanks
+Michael Caruso Nice breakdown... thanks a bunch, Michael!
+Michael Caruso you the real mvp here
If you're gonna have Elon Musk and Sam Altman at your confrence, the least you could do is pair them with a scientifically literate interviewer...
exactly what i thought, the dude has no idea what to do and ask
Glad I wasn't the only one who found this guy really annoying.
Great interviewer, he probably speaks better than you. If you don’t have anything nice to say, just keep quiet. You can’t please everyone.
Andrew Ross Sorkin is a genius in his own right. Especially in economics, finance, investing.
@@labrucine you have no right to suppress someone else's opinion. Even though they are not always "nice". We've gotta respect that.
They probably shouldn't have a host who "didn't do too well in science," if he's going to be interviewing Ellon fucking Musk.
+Joe Johnson Check the video again, it was self-admitted, hence my quotes. Probably better to watch the video you're commenting on before opening your mouth, that shouldn't have to be explained.
+Joe Johnson Elon Musk has scientific credentials and an industrial and commercial track record of success. My education is science, I am completing a PhD in Physics. The man knows what he is talking about. Your conjecture, presented here, has no foundation. Earnestly, why are you wasting your time bashing someone you clearly do not understand? I am only commenting so that others who wander into the comment section don't see your comments and become persuaded that Elon is not legitimate. I'll respond again if you present real thought in your follow-up comments.
Take care,
c
+Joe Johnson mate it's pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about. Elon lays out nuclear fusion and fission in about the simplest layman's terms possible, and this host can't even follow that much. It's evident he is in no way even remotely close to Elon's breadth of science knowledge and outlook.
The same can really be said even about the YCombinator boss. I was just sitting there for the whole video, cringing at the kindergarten-like pop-science questions this guy was asking two minds who were clearly on a whole another level
I'll watch it again. Maybe I was hasty. But, it was my first impression. I sincerely hope that people aren't just "fanboys" and are speaking objectively.
+Joe Johnson trust me, I detest the 'fanboy' trope, even though I do respect both of the interviewees greatly.
Musk talks like this in every interview / situation, but once you've seen an interview with a host who has researched his stuff and who can follow his train of thought, you're gonna notice the vast difference in the quality of the hosts if you then watch someone like this hosting instead.
Wish I'd be able to link it one to you, but I'm on my phone and don't remember off the top of my head :/
I am astonished by the low level of the questions.
Humanity could be ashamed, if it was at a high enough level to be aware of this. :( Also, SA really doesn't have the background to contribute meaningfully which is a double shame
You have to read a bit into the akashic.Elon doesn't talk about that.
Please choose your host wisely.
"Elisabeth Holmes was here earlier" Watching this in 2019 and wincing a bit lol
Right? I was like "who holmes?"
@@funkahontas elizabeth holmes is famous for a big silicon valley scam that was uncovered in 2019 that's why he was wincing
not because he didn't know who she was
Yes haha. Grouping her with anyone here made me cringe.
So.. tell me again, why Sam was sitting there? the interviewer had no interest knowing a thing about him.
Meriam Bc Elon was there ....
That interviewer doesn't have a clue.
not sure why elon gets all these stupid question why not just ask him about where he wants to go and let him talk.
+ShaDoWworldshadow If you just let him talk, he tends to say the same things that he says in every interview: why he started Tesla and SpaceX, why he thinks we should go to Mars, how everything nearly went to shit in 2008, etc etc.
I'm sure for most people that would be fine, but for people like myself who have watched a lot of interviews, it's much more interesting to hear him talk about topics he doesn't usually cover.
+ShaDoWworldshadow You obviously don't know how an interview works.
+Ayokalyb I don't think Elon likes monologues.
+ShaDoWworldshadow the real problem is: the interviewer is an idiot, not a technologist like the persons he's interviewing. Because the persons he's interviewing love to talk about technology it would have been easy to get them going on a whole range of subjects.
Like Sam Altman says he things voting on phones is possible in 20 years, but as pretty much everyone knows the voting problem is a really hard problem.
You need to be able to prove to the person that voted that what he/she voted is actually recorded and counted properly, but you also need a something like the secret ballot, so it needs to be anonymous, but you also only want people who are allowed to vote actually do so and you have to have no way to vote multiple times. It's combination which makes it hard. Also you need to have a proper software security (like operating system). Which we in all the years up to now we haven't been able to achieve.
+PINGPONGROCKSBRAH you are right, the questions were not usual but intruguing, like the AI part and Nuclear part .
Need a more logical and constructive interviewer. He didn't follow up on any of the good points they were making. Don't always need to read from the script.
I don’t get it either ._.
@7:07 interviewer's thoughts: **fusion? what the heck are they talking about**
the interviewer here should've been Neil Degrasse Tyson
TheRunawayPepper I get where you’re going, I just think Degrasse Tyson would take over and talk too much.
Should have been Tyrese Gibson
He too noisy bruh. 😂
I love how the Y Combinator guy who is loaded as fuck is still totally stoaked to be chilling with Elon.
+Jesse Fair Elon is in the top hundred wealthiest people in the world.
+alarjak Isn't Elon's net worth roughly $13.5 billion?
***** "Only" 12 billion at the moment.
It's quite hard to believe how humble he still is.
+alarjak I agree. And whenever he talks about his motivation for SpaceX, and how initially it was to increase NASA's budget and get the public excited, how Tesla, SpaceX and SolarCity are all for the greater good of humanity... It really floors me sometimes. I am very grateful that he exists, haha.
+alarjak In the tech world it's less that someone's a billionaire, it's more about what they achieve.
And Elon is running 3 distinct, huge, innovative businesses, and is basically a machine. He's like an entrepreneur robot sent from the future to save us from climate change. Which means everyone in the valley has huge respect for him. To add even more on to that, he's personally risked his entire fortune multiple times to keep these companies alive, so he's basically the perfect entrepreneur in many ways - or as close as anyone has ever come to such a status.
This Conference, where they talked about sharing interest in AI:
October 8, 2015
OpenAI Founded by Elon Musk and Sam Altman:
December 11, 2015
Now GPT 3 is taking over the world
I could listen to Elon talk forever... Elon is so awesome! I absolutely love science and technology!
there is a total of 401 IQ sitting on that stage, two of them have 200.
they wished lol
Feralz I counted 400.5
Stephen Hawking had 160, I don't think these two have nowhere near 200 LMAO
Actually the total IQ was 400.00000000000000000000000001
Stop ittttt
They should've picked a more technically learned interviewer,...such a waste!
I agree this guy was a moron or something. You've got Elon musk for an interview and he's asking him questions like he's a child asking Elon if we're being controlled by a joy stick.
+Not Even Wrong He was borderline insulting to Elon and basically ignored Sam Altman.
+Not Even Wrong Lol, it's Vanity Faire. Anna Wintour may have wrote these herself.
+Jamie Godman I wouldn't call easy or naive questions insulting. If you can't explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough. And if Elon's efforts are to succeed the barrier isn't so much what he's able to do but how he gets the world onboard the process.
+Not Even Wrong He was great in Snake Eyes though.
Elon Musk for President!
what do you think about humans?
would be cool, but i think he's a bit busy (in a more important role long-term). Bernie Sanders is the next best or, spaghetti monster forbid, even better one for president.
+Nathan Achatz, hell, no! He's too busy actually doing something useful.
Max D, oh right, one has to born in the US (or, rather born a US citizen, to be more precise) to have that chance.
"being president is like being captain to huge ship with a small rudder" - Elon Musk ( I'm para phrasing)
‘Elizabeth holmes was here’ oops we all know how that went
This host it a joke...
I think they choose him on purpose so he can cater to the "uneducated" viewer, he's supposed to ask the dumb questions so they can explain them. I mean Vanity Fair is not exactly a science magazine.
He’s on CNBC. I call him the real life woody.
What do you expect for vanity fair?
I see there was some ConFUSION
hahahahah. very punny
I laughed 1 year later
i laughed two years later
Is now 3 years already?
I love the words “gravitational confinement” while talking about fusion.
the interviewer has no idea what he's talking about, Elon is the greatest innovator of our time.
Elon is Love.
Elon is Life.
+markownik Most overused phrase ever.
He's a good dude, but don't go overboard because that's what nutty people do
@@dunkindonuts9299 you can have an awakening to the fact that all the universe is made out of pure Love.
@@Ayokalyb obviously you are unaware of the power of love. The essence of love is gratitude, I'm extremely grateful for the Elons of the world unfortunately there are too few.
Elon Musk for businessman of the year! 2016
+Oz Ants the guy whostill didn't make a dollar from Tesla? yeah right..he's more like market disrupter than a real businessman
+Oz Ants HE is amazing for sure, one of the greatest man on earth if not the one.
+hybaj i suggest you get your facts right sir
Tesla is very profitable, but as a smart businessman
he is reinvesting back in to the company so it expands....
Oz Ants what? what? lol.. ok .. nope.. nope.. listen I like what Elon has done with Paypal and SpaceX.. but Tesla...
+hybaj I suppose you're one of those petrol cult who wants to use petrol as long as it exists.
14:34 just goes to show you how respectful Altman is, at least towards Elon. He opened his mouth to say something, Elon didn't see him kept talking, he DID NOT interrupt him and let him continue.
Dont know why you would congratulate someone for not actively being rude. Elon was clearly talking and he was about to interrupt him.
In Musk I trust!
+Arc520 IN Musk we Trus.
+SLEVIN SHAFEL I think it's still "in God we trust"
+venmon619 Time to push away stupid illigical religions from the face of Earth
+Андрей Мишин Hey dude, I'm not stupid or "illigical" and I found your comment rude
venmon619 Nothing personal, but I considering this phrase, "in god we trust" as an insult to every free-thinker citizen of US, who doesn't share this idea.
Im convinced Sam Altman is at least partially a robot
lol no he's just different
Partially ? You understimate him.
And Elon - already an interplanetary being among us
@@Noufel199 think you meant overestimate
What???
Have you seen Fridman?
“How long do you want to live” ... ? .. As long as it takes for you to ask a decent question ..
I couldn't come up with a better ANSWER
"The Sun shows up everyday" ~Musk 2015
14:18 Elon made a nerdy/science joke and the interviewer had no idea what was it about... :)
I FEEL THAT SOMETIMES ELON MUSK FEEL THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HE TRYING TO EXPLAIN ... but he is very patient on explaining the simple ideas 💡
“...and Y Combinator president” lel
Like how at the last question he said Who would you give all your money too and there both just like... I already do give all my money away to what I believe in..
I love how there's never a "Yes" or "No" answer from both Elon or Sam. They both say things in terms of statistical probabilities etc. which is really cool.
Thanks for uploading!
it was really difficult to watch this interview as it seemed that the moderator was so unprepared. So disrespectful to invite the best guys in the business sharing the best ideas out there and interview them like that.
Who thought it was a good idea to waste Elon's, Sam's and my time with this absolute lightweight of a moderator?
unfortunately the vast majority of humanity, even in the 1st world, is at his level. Shame ...
Elon and Sam don’t have the time to be causally poked at like that.
I think it's great to listen to a couple of guys who seem to have thought everything through thoroughly before the interviewer or audience asked any questions. Very much thinking about the bigger picture in the way that I don't believe many people can.
the way they related fermi's paradox and hologram thing was amazing !!
Just an amazing beautiful accent Mr Elon has so adorable .
9:40 Sam's look tells it all.
hehehehehhahah
Interviewer is a giant nut job.
This interviewer provides a great example of how NOT to pose questions, and follow up.
Great interview. Thank you.
It scares me when I think that this host may just represent the majority of the worlds population.
Actually it’s way worse than that
He’s actually WAY above most of the population ....
@@belindacarter6872 I've seen him on CNBC, hes pretty clueless, probably why they have him on the panel, hes very relatable for the rest of the idiots watching their channel.
True that
I was just here looking for this comment. And yes i think you are right ..
Andrew Sorkin should be ashamed of himself. Not knowing what fusion even was, throwing a very clear explanation back at the interviewees face, and asking ridiculous questions like, what would a CEO of an investing company invest his money into. Just sad.
First I had an impression that moderator was smart, quick to response.
Twenty minutes through realised how shallow he is. Poor choice.
Agreed, this interviewer was a moron.
I don't know why so many people seem to dislike the interviewer. If you've seen many of Elon's past interviews you'd know that this is one much better than most. At least he asked interesting questions that haven't been asked a million times already.
Interview offers something new from other Musk interviews. Really enjoyed it.
28:03 Love Sam's reaction, lol.
The interviewer has some misconceptions on ideas
Whenever Elon answers a question it usually starts with an explanation of why your question is flawed
lol, Elon's explanation of fusion reminds me of basic physics lectures at the high school level.
wonderful, will watch till end of video
About 28:00-This part is really worth paying attention to. It's remarkable that a company can start with a couple of such fundamentally dumb mistakes, yet make the good ideas they do have succeed. That takes a lot of adaptability.
He didn't ask on fundamentals. :(
you can Google the answers to fundamental questions, this is the opportunity to ask something that you can't Google, so why ask something basic.
Great interview, really enjoyed the questions and hearing Musk speak!
First time listening to Elon Musk talk. Wow!!! This simple mind is speechless.
"I hope Trump doesn't get the nomination of the Republican party. That would be embarrassing..." -Elon Musk
I guess the American people didn't think so (or almost half of them anyway).
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO unfortunately the vast majority of humanity, even in the 1st world, is at his level. Shame ...
Would Elon rather have quid pro jo?.?.
That interviewer's mind was being blown every single time Elon or Sam talked, I wonder how he was feeling after that interview :P
Omg I didn't realize how old this interview was until they mentioned the model 3 being in the future haha.
22:16 - “You sure you don’t want to ask Elon?” .. lol.
This is beautiful
you the best sam
Please add subtitles
7:42 yes
"How much attention are people paying? That defines how much corruption occurs" @34:25
спасибо это потрясающе
Great discussion.
Will the model 3 have full autonomous driving capability I wonder? Will it be doable for $35k in 2018?
this interview is only for fans, i think the content is quite empty
Elizabeth Holmes spoke there earlier? Now she's in prison.
Wouldn't mars lose most of the new atmosphere we add? My understanding was that the solar wind removed most of the atmosphere because of Mars's lack of magnetic field. (discussed at 10:00 roughly)
This was actually a really solid interview. I'm surprised.
Bring on S3XY!
+Airborn14 those mercedes guys took the model e :(
+Arasmus Inc. Ford
Had to scroll down hoping someone knew the reference
Man, Elon said we can blanket the entire galaxy going at bicycle speed in 100 million years. My mind is blown!
ATTENTION;
ELON MUSK THE SUN IS NOT FUSSION IT IS ELECTRIC.SHAME ON YOU MY HERO
DO YOUR HOMEWORK THE ELETRIC UNIVERSE WAL THORNHILL
VELACOSKI
It is a fusion ball and that is why it has so much energy and last for this long...if it would be made of electricity it would have been dead a long time ago. Elon got my back your thought are wrong sorry bout that
This guy was dangerously close to asking elon if science and math were related.
Now, in 2023, Sam Altman does not need an introduction. Can't believe this was 7 years ago.
Elon please take on waste recycling! This area really needs innovation like in SpaceX and Tesla!
Elon is worrying something really should be worried by the whole humanity or at least a nation, this is really an outstanding feature (takes a lot more responsibility) comparing some other super rich who don't have this kind of spirit.
Watching this in Sep 2019 is amazing, Musk & Tesla managed to sell so many model 3 cars now, just as Elon predicted :O
im dead when the host ask isnt it fusion dangerous
Is it me or did Musk make a calculation error? Musk said you could basically cycle to alpha centur in a few hundred thousand years. So alpha centuri is approx 4 light years away, which in meters is about 4.1315e+16 meters. A human cycles at roughly 15-20 K/PH so about 4 meters per second. Which leaves us about 1.e+16 (approximately) - a lot longer than a few hundred thousands years.
***** For sure, I think about that a lot too. I mean for all we know, there could be a significant' technological barrier preventing civilizations from reaching part luminal speeds. One thing that keeps coming back is the vast vast distances between starts, alpha centuri is 4 light years but its estimated the closest rocky earth like planet is 20 + light years. I double checked my figures as I did physics at uni, pretty sure that was a slip up on his part, but yea the logic is still more than sound.
+Adam -亚当- Agreed. At 15km/h it would take 80,000,000 years to traverse 4 light years - that's 80 MILLION years.
+Michael V He was probably thinking about solar system and most likely Pluto.
***** HAHA, exactly! spot on! Its kind of sad how we are like around 0.7 as apparently it gets really exciting when you reach type 1!
Michael V Hehe still faster than most budget airlines take to get to their destination :P
Elon Musk looks like Blastoise here
AldosWorld TV lmao deceeaaased
Nice
Sam really respects Elon.
That's all I've felt you know...
great interview and honest answers
28:07
J.R. Graham Dropping Mics with no words!! Laaaawd!
What is the point of putting an investor with somebody like Elon musk.There mindsets are completely different-while one works for money,the other for vision
HyperCuriosity They’re actually very close friends and appreciate each other. Besides that Sam Altman is much much more than an investor of wall street. He did MIT so has a profond tech background and cares a lot of society / humanity issues.
To add to what Kevin Warburton said - Sam’s also clearly intelligent and capable of engaging in meaningful and insightful conversation w/ Elon - way more so than the interviewer - who to be fair to him seems to be asking vain, materialistic questions that the readers of ‘Vanity*’ Fair, are likely more interested in than questions about science and ya know...things that matter...
Why does the Y-Combinator CZcams Channel disable comments?
As annoyed as everyone here who came to listen to either Musk or Altman is by the interviewer. I sank into my chair when he asked Elon if he wants to leave Earth because of global warming. I feel you! But you have to understand his platform. They're recording this for Vanity Fair. Their readers would probably be more interested in Elon's blazer and who he's dating and Altman's shoe lace selection. I do think the whole deal would've been a lot more interesting if the two of them just talked and talked for an hour without being interrupted by magazine questions.
many people know the name Sam Altman, you can name him in the title
The quality of this interview is immediately lowered by this interviewer. It seems finding someone who can speak and pose questions without "uh" being use every 2-3 seconds was impossible.
Where do we get the legal info on this new tech. I don't want to be monitored 24/7 anytime they want
No one mentioned the nuclear waste from fission though. Is there was from fusion?
What a waste of what could have been a GREAT interview. I still enjoyed it but, the interviewer makes someone who is seriously interested, like myself, very frustrated.
Jesus. I'm fascinated by Elon Musk and really would love to hear his thoughts on some of these subjects, but this Andrew Ross Sorkin character conducting the interview is ruining it for me. @vanityfair needs to get rid of him and hire someone who knows what they're doing.
He lacks of imagination, uneducated and never read a book.
The HyperLoop should go mach 3 except by corners. Then its cost efficient nationally.
Yes
15:23 Elon Musk miscalculated. The time to get to Alpha Centuari (4 light years) at bicycle speed of 10m/s is 100 Million years, not a few hundred thousand years. The time to cross the galaxy (100,000 light years) at bicycle speed (10m/s) is 3 trillion years (longer than age of universe).
+Bob Lansdorp There's no need to delete your previous comment and with it my response pointing out your own miscalculations.
Anyway.
+Bob Lansdorp The universe is roughly 13.5 trillion years old unless you are a creationist in which case I wont bother.
+Juan Madero haha trolololol
Who cares, I don't think Elon was trying to be 100% accurate. Not something that justified your silly comment about it.
+Jamie Godman I care about being factually accurate, if I had to guess I think Elon Musk does too.
Sorkin largely ignored Altman for some Elon Hero worship.
2:51 “Elizabeth Holmes was here earlier”!
This interviewer's lack of intelligence definitely degrades the quality of the whole segment.