The Sony 35mm GM F1.4 vs the Sony 35mm f1.8
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2022
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Today I explore the Sony 35mm GM bs the 35mm 1.8 also from Sony. Both are great lenses - but which one is for you??
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Thank you Mark! Huge fan of your videos. I'm fairly new to the ZV E-10 world, and I've literally watched HOURS of your videos to research. You're a very entertaining guy! Appreciate the effort you put into your footage!
thanks, Scott!! I appreciate you watching hours of my dumb face 🤣
I’ve had the 1.4 35mm gm ( got money ) lens for a year love the low light capability with the a7S2. Went on a trip to Thailand and Philippines used mostly the 35mm for street and night time . I paired it with the Sigma 85mm 1.4 dg dn
This is a great review, thank you. I appreciate this was never meant to include a comparison with the Zeiss 2.8, but I noticed a few people in the comments talking about street photography with regards to these lenses. For street photography the best FE 35mm is the Zeiss because it's diminutive, inconspicuous and light enough for one-handed photography. I really couldn't imagine doing street with these monsters, as beautiful as they are!
good suggestion!!
Currently binge-watching your videos. Great reviews, but also funnier than most comedians on YT. I bought a ‘Dougie’ based on your recommendations and I’m worried now that if I keep watching your videos, I may want something more expensive 😊
The answer is to watch all my videos - that is always the answer 🤣
I just got the 35 GM about two months ago, and I’m not a professional by any means…but on my A7IV it creates a fantastic image. The next best lens I have is the Samyang 24 1.8, which is really sharp, despite its low price. But the 35 GM gives me that sweet, sweet toneh that’s just on another level 🤓😜.
I’m angling next for the Samyang 24mm for double duty APS-C and full frame.
I spent yesterday afternoon at B&H trying out the different 35mm lenses on my A7s iii and decided on the Sony f/1.8. Teamed up w that particular camera, it's more than bright enough and its weight and size help make shooting on the street, in anonymous crowds, and public transit more inconspicuous, convenient, and quick. I find the differences in weight--it's 54% of the f/1.4 G-Master lens' weight: 281 v. 524 grams / 9.9 v. 18 oz!--and length (2.87" v. 3.8") are significant if one intends to shoot all day, ducking in and out of one situation after another, and snapping off shots or rolling video before people notice and figure out how to react. Much easier to stash a cam that is 1" shorter and a pound lighter and slip away.
I find either one preferable to the various 16-35mm power zoom lens. The Sony f/4 is too dark and the G Master is too heavy and bulky for fast street work.
I think it is time for Sony to release an improved F1.8 35mm with aperture ring and buttons, with reduced chromatic aberration and new AF motors found in the new 40mm/50mm F2.5 for latest autofocus engines, also improved night light result.
How many years the 35mm f1.8 exist? Time fore a subtile update and keeping the price and weight controlled
One thing really does it for me: the bokeh in the GM 1.4. I've always loved 35mm as a focal length because it feels very natural to shoot at, but the Sony GM really stands out as having some of the best bokeh on any 35mm lens ever. I'm a still photographer though--I don't care about bokeh as much for video.
There are a lot of camera channels on CZcams, but none this handsome. Great video Mark, entertaining as always!
it’s true - they call me the Brad Pitt of cameras
Happened to get a surprise 35mm 1.4 GM as an upgrade from the ZV-E10 kit lens and gotta say, I knew the kit lens was only ok but the pictures on the first day of having the GM blow me away. The little Zev is quite capable once it can stretch its legs.
glass is the real star. That’s a HUGE upgrade.
I'm a new subscriber and I appreciate the new energy you bring to my content consumption.
I appreciate you subscribing!! thanks.
How would either lens compare to the Sigma 35mm F1.4 Art Lens? Just an idle curiosity as I couldn't afford any of them at the moment. Another idle question.. Do you know of an adapter to allow E mount lens fit to a canon EF mount. You can go the other way EF to E Mount so I can use my Canon lens on a sony but I can't find anything the other way round.
Rewatching this video. I used to own the f/1.8 but sold it when the GM came out and I love that lens but did just repurchase a used f/1.8 because it’s so light to try on an A7Cx camera even though I have used the f/1.4 GM on it. That 35mm f/1.4 GM is about the largest lens I would use on a compact Sony body. The 50mm f/1.4 GM is a little lighter even. Take care.
OMG, this crop factor when FBC = on is HUGE Bro :) it seems to me this 35mm is similar to 40-45mm 😮 I love your short vids 👍
Yep. And when you add the Active Stabilization crop factor on top of that, the 35mm ends up being closer to 42mm.
I’ve being hesitating about upgrading my 35mm 1.8 and this vid gives me a better perspective. Thanks!
Glad I could help!
Would love to see a comparison to the Sigma Art 35mm as well. Supposedly it focus breathes badly as well.... but it's cheaper than the GM.
Mainly I am using the Tamron 20-40/2.8 for Street. Anyhow for less light situations I was interested in the Samyang 24/1.8 or the Sony 35/1.8. Now could get the Sony on discount for just 300USD new and bought it at once.
Any idea of the lifespan of the senzor in a7iv or fx30? Ie how many hrs can the sensor take, can it compare with professional grade cameras 80k hrs of recordings?
Whoa. Great comparison. Always educational and entertaining. ❤
Thanks, Kevin!!
bought this lens a week ago, use it with my sony a7riv, absolutely love it. zero complaints
it’s amazing
Great comparison, hitting all the notes!
Got the zeiss f1.8 24mm and I'm loving it, 36mm equivalent for that (arguably) perfect human eye lens depth
I am still in love with my Zeiss Distagon 35 mm f/1,4 but it is not as sharp as the newer Sony 35mm GM.
Nice video, could you make more tests with fx30 in low light and with dynamic range pls against zv10
@Mark Bennett's Camera Crisis Amazing content! Between Sigma 30mm F1.4 and the Sony 35mm f1.8, for street photography and portraits, with the ZVE10, which would you recommend? Cheers 👍
I couldn't comment on portraits but for street photography you wouldn't want either. Get the Zeiss 2.8 instead.
Hoping someone can help here.. Trying to get back into photography, I have a a6400. ATM I have a 35mm F1.8 (not the FE in the video) and a 18-135mm F3.5-5.6 OSS lenses. Is the GM a good go for portraits, photography and video? Willing to spend a the money for the GM but also not sure if there something newer now, etc. thank you!
I got the Sigma 35mm F/1.4 dg dn and I think it’s also pretty good. But it’s also a little heavy and big.
Oooo I wonder if 35mm would be better for what I’m wanting. Focus breathing mode is cool but idk if it’s a reason to go with a more expensive name brand lens. I feel you could just crop in a smidge in post and get the same effect.
Hmm idk though that’s quite the crop
focus breathing adds crop on top of the Active SteadyShot. Or does one function compensate the other?
unfortunately it adds one crop on the other.
Great video. Now, I want that GM lens :-) I shoot primarily on 35mm f/1.8 at uni.
Can you make a comparison between 55mm Zeiss vs 50mm GM?
if I can get those in then I will
That Sony 35mm f1.8 is the first lens I bought with my a7Siii for all the reasons you mentioned in the video. The autofocus and minimal focus breathing probably makes it the best 35 f1.8 for video across all the systems. That lens is simply flawless!
I recently got it too. Loca is intense, otherwise great lens !
@@StirfriedGerman loca ?
@@Tonellacam chromatic aberrations, I ended up selling it for that reason
@@StirfriedGerman wow it was that bad ! For taking videos or pictures or both ?
@@Tonellacam I only shoot video. The lens looks really good and autofocus is awesome, but in high contrast situations, the chromatic aberations are too much🤣
Hi Mark, I bought the A74 with kit lens and the 35GM since Sony A74 released. Very happy with my set so far. I'm not a professional photographer, just take the photo studio and portrait for my kiddo and family during holidays season for fun. I'm saving money right now for the next prime lenses but I still haven't decided either the 50mm or 85mm. Just stop by your channel and love the way your presentation. 🙂👍
Thank you for your time.
Great setup!!
I'm neither a professional nor do I have wife privileges, so I went with the Sony 35 f1.8 for the value and image quality. It pairs great with my Sony 85 f1.8. My next prime would likely be the Sony 20 f1.8 to complete my set of primes. Out of all the camera gear reviewers in CZcams, you're quickly becoming my favorite due to your candidness, humility, and sense of humor.
Thanks!! I just picked up the Sony 20mm 1.8 this week!!
Just thinking about photos and with an a7iv would you make the switch? Is the difference in sharpness and bokeh worth the extra weight?
Still not "much" of a reason to switch - but if it's in the budget and you don't mind the weight (it's really not too bad) - nothing beats a GM in quality.
I have Sigma 35mm f1.2 it’s heavy but I love it and it always stays on my camera
I think the size of 1.8 lenses is the sweetspot if you prefer travel friendly everyday cameras. On long wedding days Its also the best balance between weight and speed (aperture) i wish Sony would make newer versions of their 1.8 primes, especially 50,35 and 24 (maybe even 85mm) in the style of their F2.5 G primes - yes the 1.4 primes are nice and fancy but for most 1.8 is more than enough and shooting with the smallest DOF isn't always the best choice in people photography. I hope the Bokeh hype will fade soon we will see some of these lenses renewed.
Speaking of weather sealing of the 1.8 35mm I can assure you that it's a very robust lens. Never had any issues shooting light rain or even in the shower like on yesterday's shoot. It got several splashes and drops and it was very humid but it works still like a charm. ( Of course I didn't put it directly under the stream but there was a lot of water splashing from model onto my camera)
thanks for commenting with real world experience!! I would love to see the 1.8 primes in the style of those Little G primes as well!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis🤗👍Sony could easily charge 200-300$/€ more for the improved lens body's if they made those as breathing resistant as the 35mm 1.8!
correct its for hobbyists not pro work
@@takoflame4948 why that?
Travel and budget friendly f1.8 works for me too.
Mark, this is awesome. You know I sometimes ask for you to do an assignment. I currently can't use my a6400 for top downs with my sigma 16mm or 30mm in Auto focus because of the focus breathing. Do you have some lenses that you can test out on your ZV-E10? I would love to be able to use autofocus again and was hoping not to switch cameras 😂.
There shouldn’t be any noticeable focus breathing on the 16. Make sure you have the latest updates. Perhaps it is focus hunting? in that case, either there’s not enough light or the camera doesn’t know what to focus on. Set the focus from wide to spot in the centre.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks Mark!!!!
I went with the Sigma 35mm Art Lens after reading and watching reviews on these two.
That’s a RIDICULOUSLY great lens. Love it.
Great job on the video Mark! Thanks for making it. Is that a little Talking Heads I hear in the background?
it’s just a bass line and drums from an epidemic sound song (who probably copied Talking Heads 🤣)
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis It sounds exactly like the background in Once in a Lifetime. So crazy! Thanks again.
I chose the sony 35mm 1.8 over the sigma 30mm 1.4 because of autofocus performance in the Sony. The autofocus of the 1.8 in low light and night shooting is so very impressive. Not looking for any kind of upgrade.
the autofocus is amazing on it
I bought the 35mm f1.4 GM for the more cinematic and creative tasks next to my sigma wide and mid-range f2.8 zoom lenses. Yes it cost me a kidney. But i like the formfactor, focus ring, aperature ring and the customizable button. It's great for balancing on a gimball too. By the way, love the effort you're putting into these videos.
thanks!!
How is the 1.8 for astro?
Can you do a review between the 35 1.4 GM and Sony 35 1.8, Sigma and other similar vendors.
I will try. hard to get all the lenses in at once!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisisyes please!
The "spare tire" on the CN tower comment killed me 😂
He out in some Xmas weight
Puh, I always get confused, because while searching for the APS-C 35mm 1.8 I mostly end up at videos of the full frame lense. Sony needs to do a better job distinguishing them by their names. 😕
I don’t understand why they don’t put replaceable gaskets on the lens mount of the camera body. I think that would make way more sense then on some lenses and not others.
that’s a good idea!!
Hi, will the Sony 35 f1.4 GM be a good fit for Sony a6400 camera? Can it improve The focus and quality of the a6400 camera?
A better choice will be the Sigma 30mm f1.4. It's about a $1000 cheaper and is designed for APS-C and give you amazing quality.
hey Mark: can i buy a camera Sony zv e10 and buy one of those lens ? are they compatible ? Merci mon ami, je te suis de Montréal.
I bought the 1.4 I love it love ittttttt. No regrets. The 1.8 looks great
Hey Mark, I bought the GM and I like to shoot mainly video. I hope I didn’t make a mistake purchasing this lens. I do have the Sony a7iv that has the breathing compensation. Do you think I made the right choice?
that is one of the best lenses in the world. you won’t regret it!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thanks for the confidence Mark. It will arrive on Monday very excited. by the way, I watch all your videos.👍
Love my 35 1.8.
Hello sir, and thank you very much for the video! I'm about to buy the 35mm GM F1.4 together with the Sony A7 IV. Please tell me would you recommend this setup for wedding/portrait and landscape photography Also please let me know what other wildlife lens you would recommend in the same price range, and if that lens is also suitable for landscape or portraits. Thank you with respect!
the 35 is good for general shooting at a wedding. generally for portraits, people like a longer focal length like an 85mm. for landscapes, photographers usually want something wider like a 16mm. For wildlife, you’re best off with a zoom that can have further reach. here is a lens that will cover you for most - the Tamron 35-150 amzn.to/48bBFht
the other route you could take is to buy the Sony 35mm 1.8, the Sony 20mm 1.8 and the Sony 85mm 1.8.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thank you very much for your time and detailed answer! I will check and consider the options you mentioned.
I am not jealous of this man having all the exciting camera gear but of his wife privilege.
🤣
Can you recommend a budget 35mm for talking head video? (without much focus breathing please!) - Is the Samyang or Viltrox 35mm FE F1.8 any good? or would you really recommend stretching the budget to the Sony one?
I decided to try the Viltrox 24mm F1.4 due to the unbeatable price (waiting for it to arrive) and use clear zoom to get effectively a 24 to 36. I found 35mm just a tad too tight in my home studio, maybe around 28-30 will work well.
Missed your comment somehow - let me know how it goes!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Will do, my ZV-E1 arrived today but no lenses yet. So frustrating to have it starting at me, mocking, but no way to test it 😂
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis It's just so game changing this ZV-E1, even when using clear zoom, it demolishes APS-C, I filmed a little side by side of a Viltrox 23mm on APS-C vs Viltrox 24mm on Full Frame + clear image zoom: czcams.com/video/6VXH-AmH4HI/video.html
I using 35GM for 1 and half years, the reason i choice for 35GM is the lightest 35F1.4, and i not taking video It is still better than using 2470GM1 on that time.
im in love with this yt Chanel
I'm a hobbyist but had a f**k it moment and went for the GM and have been wondering if it was overkill since lol I do love the more compact size of the 35 1.8 but I must say the 1.4 and aperture ring of the GM are great and pairs nicely with my 20mm 1.8 G
It’s hard not to love the GM lenses. And I just picked up the 20mm myself - it operates and feels just like a GM!!
To me the focus breathing didn't look that bad when you were holding an object up and then going back to your face. A little size adjustment. How many times in video though unless you are showcasing an object close to the screen would it happen during normal video? Just people walking around and talking and interacting. It just doesn't seem like it would be a huge issue for most people viewing the videos.
It’s true that depending on your use case you may not notice it - but it is really as bad as it gets on any lens. There are many people who would be focus pulling more than a few feet (example shallow depth of field with two characters taking). Lots of people still bought this lens before Sony introduced the focus breathing compensation - so you’re right to think it’s not a big deal to some - but to others, it’s a big issue.
GM 1.4 is just about perfect, but the FE 1.8 is fantastic. And when you factor in weight/size/price, it’s my choice.
There's another option too, i have the rokinon 35mm 1.5 cine and it's brilliant. Very different type of lens, for different uses. And heavy.
thank you Nolan! I like your movie too!
No. I think price and weight and compact size are important especially in an A7c body. I would prefer an improved version 2 of the F1.8 with an aperture ring, button and improved af motor and reduced chromatic aberration at reasonable price. Sony? When a 35mm F1.8 G2 ?
I'm a little confused. Are you saying the 1.4 GM has focus breathing issues, or are you saying the 1.8 non GM has the focus breathing issues?
the GM lens has the breathing issues. but now that the new cameras have focus breathing compensation - the lens is pretty perfect.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisisbut it crops in when using focus breathing compensation plus you lose detail
what about the GM 50mm f1.2? that's an interesting one
it is - I’ll get it in eventually
Aaaahh. I think the 35mm f/1.8 is pretty dang good. Especially since it doesn't suffer from focus breathing. Plus, that extra $700 could get me a Ninja V plus an SSD. Of course, the GM lenses are excellent quality, for sure. Handsome comparison FTW.
the handsomest
Never seen your vids before but had to comment on intro alone. First thing I thought “omg skinny Christopher Nolan!”
At least I’m the skinny version
Why choose when you can have both?
Get out of my brain!!
this video was great. I have the GM because i am a sheep. but I really enjoy it on my Fx3 but I sit really sit on livestreams
If getting a GM makes you a sheep then I am one too 🐑🐑
This is a good lens but it is too expensive. I’m looking for something like 20mm or wider that really cheap price for f1.4. I might just go with manual lens
the 20mm 1.8 from Sony is fantastic
would you recommend the Sony 35mm f1.8 for overhead videos?
In a full frame maybe - on apsc it would be too tight for a top down shot
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis what would you recommend for a sony a6100 for overhead video?
I would suggest the 16-50 kit lens or the Sigma 18-50 2.8 so you have the ability to zoom. You don’t really need shallow depth of field for top down vids in many situations
Great Video 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
I read that an argument for 35mm GM is the manual focus pull. the experience to manual focus is much better than 35 1.8
because the lens is bigger, it does make manual focus pulling easier. And now that some cameras compensate for the focus breathing, this has really tuned into a pretty much perfect lens
I'm gonna be honest with you, I never noticed or even knew focus breathing was a thing until I heard people talking about it on CZcams. It still doesn't bother me.
It’s true - I’ve seen it in movies and never cared about it 🤣
very good (Sony GM 35mm /1.4)😊
What I've seen is that G Master lenses are better especially when it comes to the 'bokeh balls'. And I love beautiful bokeh balls. Sir you need to include bokeh ball tests!
I should have - the 1.8 is very comparable with the bokeh balls. very clean. i took the images, but I wasn’t happy with them 🤣
I don't know if it's my A7iv or 35mm 1.4 Gm but the eye auto focus is lacking with this combo. A lot of out of focus pictures.
did you updated the firmware of the camera?
@@Arikrog92 yes. It would front focus a lot.
@@kifley19 and what about other lens? Maybe you should contact Sony, so they can update their lens firmware
I noticed that too.
Get the 24mm GM and then when you turn on focus breathing compensation and active steady shot you have a 35mm lol
😂
I went with the Voigtlander 40mm f1.2 😂 #notavideoguy and I have the Tamron 20-40mm f2.8 that covers 35mm. The 35mm f1.8 seems perfectly adequate for my purposes but I’m probably getting the Samyang 24mm f1.8 before the Sony 35mm f1.8
Having it a little bit bigger too, makes it more comfortable to hold, it balances better, and it's just a better experience ! ... Wife privilege 🤣
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Sigma 35 1.4 dg dn
For whom 35mm lens is?
very popular for film makers and wedding photography and street photography.
Sony 35mm f1.8 @$250 2nd hand for video. Does me well.
wow - what a deal!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Non-profit work merits saving $$ to get the job done. I can only dream of your "monetized" rich content in exotic Toronto. Your living the dream!
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WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME, MARK!? *writes down "Buy a 35mm GM"
I don’t know why I’m doing the to ME 🤣🤣
Is there any way I could talk to the missus? I have to ask her to lower her husband allowance because I simply cannot keep up. Or maybe she could talk to mine and, you know, inspire her to increase mine? :D
mrs. puff make it stop!!!!!
I’m subscribing for the “wife privilege” 😂
I like you already. 🤣
My wife doesn’t let me buy any lenses anymore. The last one was the 135 1.8 samyang and she says it looks like a photoshop picture every time I use it. 😅😅
🤣🤣you’re photos are so good that it’s unrealistic
if Christopher Nolan says so, it must be true!
I recorded this video backward
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 😂Yeah! I noticed
Tough decision...
no kidding!!
shot a wedding with the 1.8.
sent it back for aberations and fringing.
sounds like the GM is the way to go for you
Ok, as long as you tell me your wife has husband privilege, I promise I won't Unsubscribe.
(Couldn't help myself 😆)
She has the privilege of seeing the camera joy on my face
Good of you to recognize your wife privilege.
The first step is acknowledging it
lol wife privilege, love it
wife privilege 😂
Not gonna lie I can’t notice a difference with the breathing
look at the sides of the screen. when they go in and out - that is the breathing. in the studio shots - some of the lights at the end of the frame actually go in and out of the frame.
Wife privilege mode engaged. Unsubscribe engaged 🤣
You’ll never leave. Who will tell you the good comedy spots if you’re gone??
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis My plan is to get more handsomer by osmosis #Winning
The aperture ring is the most useless thing on GM lenses, you basically pay for unnecessary engineering
I LOVE an aperture ring while I shoot. It's just much more intuitive for me
dont have to repeat bokeh/bokah everytime you mention it. say it once will do. it's annoying
I'm an annoying person - chances are that's going to come across in every video.
The 35mm 1.8 prime was my first thanks to @geraldundone.
No regrets and no need for the G Master in my opinion, it does everything I need it to, and then some. Then again, I’m no pro, so….
It was my first Sony Prime thanks to Gerald too 🤣🤣