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It's sad with what has happened in North Idaho! Our children can not afford to live here anymore the average house price now is over 400,000 for a starter house
Pair the high housing costs with a pay scale amongst the lowest in the nation , pretty much a recipe for misery ! I’ve been in CDA for 43 years and has steadily gone downhill for the past 6 + years . Demographic rapidly changing from conservative to liberal also from all the transplants moving here .
guess who wanted that? The conservative politicians and local citizens of a conservative bent who dn't want regulation of any type nor any thoughtful planning for the future. Same as with national politics! The new-right in america over this past two decades is the worst thing that EVER happened in my beautiful country!
@18_rabbit 😂 wow.. It has nothing to do with politics; It's the people selling out to all these invaders, driven by their greed. Then once they want to change everything it's too late..
In 2021 Montana was our first state until we saw the political breakdown. Idaho was our second with Meridian, Moscow, Sandpoint, Coeur d’Alene, etc… but a house with some land and within 30 to hospital was waaaaaay outside the budget. Enter Wyoming! More animals than people. Considered to be the most conservative (2021) no income tax, corporate tax, 5% sales tax ❤
These are the reasons we moved to Wyoming! We moved to Worland, which has a lot less wind than most of Wy. It's a small town and more affordable, but not the natural beautiful we were accustomed to in Washington, unless you drive at least 30-60 minutes out. Still, for these strange times, it's a good place.
There is a fundamental difference between California and Idaho republicans. Same with Idaho and California conservatives. Californians expect a certain level of modern necessities that are government-provided. They expect roads to always be clear, trash to be dealt with, and several other aspects of self-reliance that are foreign to them. There used to be a certain level of ruggedness required to live here in Idaho. The influx of new people does not possess this. North Idaho has suffered the same fate as many "hidden gems" across the country. Talking to folks from the Reno/Tahoe area say that North Idaho is doing the same thing that happened there 30 years ago, same with Bend Oregon, and Eagle Colorado, Jackson Wyoming, hell even Spokane. These areas become popular because of their small-town feel and then get bought up by developers and rich people, they are given carte blanche by commissioners and then exploited to the nth degree, becoming over-saturated. The area then loses the appeal it originally possessed and the population is left to suffer the resulting high cost of living and lowered quality of life, all the while the complicit local government dances on the corpse of those they have sold out as they now "have theirs". When North Idaho is ruined it will move on to the next "hidden Gem", and the cycle will continue and ruin another place. To add to the second paragraph though, it is a wicked problem, locals are complicit and share the blame. Many generational farms have been sold off to developers because the kids inherit the farm, don't want to farm, and just see dollar signs$$$ being thrown at them without regard to the long-term destruction that will happen when the Rathdrum Prarie is a big sub-division. Natural resources are then stretched to the max and you will have these weaker "conservatives" whining and complaining that they can't water their lawns and that someone should clean out their driveway and their road isn't plowed and the government won't take care of them enough even though they pay taxes, blah blah blah. Happy Friday. Good Video 😉
Spot on assessment here. This is the cycle that happens to all the good places in the country. Overdevelop, rinse, repeat. I'm 59 and I see it everywhere I go. People will never change. All they care about is that they get theirs.
Born and raised in Hayden, still liver here. Less than 2000 people in Hayden when I was a kid and government way was highway 95. Athol was nothing more than a roadhouse bar. This place was a logging and mining community. Those days are gone forever. The facts are that folks want to live here and there is no stopping it. Some will leave but the majority will stay. Our best hope is that the newcomers assimilate, respect, and embrace our values. Some of us natives have profited from the growth but the vast majority’s wages have not kept up with the cost of living. Wages have always been terrible here, but it used to be very inexpensive to live here. When I graduated high school, you could buy a brand new house in Prairie Falls for 58K.
This has been the story and the opinions of people residing in most conservative so-called fly-over states for well over 2 decades! I live in the so-called backward Missouri Ozark Mountains, and we have suffered from philosophical naturalists folks from Cally who believe we are less intelligent than themselves because we survive with far lower wages and far lower cost homes than what they have experienced in their former lifestyle. They tended to drive up the cost of our properties in waves for some reason. Fortunately. most of them eventually moved elsewhere! As for myself: I used to drive truck OTR, and I always felt I fit right in when I was talking to Idaho folks. The land prices have kept me away though. I am about retirement age now, but I still don"t have hundreds of thousands of dollars of spare money to spend!
The problem is that even if they assimilate, they’re still here. Just try to go camping or go on a hike. The whole state is completely overrun. My entire life, I’ve been able to just venture out and not see another soul, but those days are long gone and they aren’t coming back. I had planned on living here and raising my kids here for the entirety of my life and now we are considering other places. It’s been very disheartening to see my lovely home bludgeoned to death by an onslaught of newcomers. Enjoy the festering corpse of a once great state.
Ive lived here my whole life and CDA area has just gotten way to expensive. To many rich people buying up everything. Rents are way to high. Its not for locals its for the rich now.
thx to classic conservatives in every level of business life and state politics who wanted zero regulation, zero planning. Same as with national politics re the GOP! Sickening!
When it comes to winter, you just have to HTFU. As for seasons, we've got 1. Summer 2. Getting ready for winter (starts in August and runs until it's too late) 3. Fall - absolutely stunning. 4. Winter. 5. January thaw. 6. More winter 7. Mud season 8. Spring. 9. More mud Had some record lows up here in north Idaho this winter. We recorded -27F here in Oldtown and our friends a few miles away recorded -31F.
OK, I hate to do two different posts, but the subjects are very different. When you mention that many people coming into Idaho are registered Republicans, you need to consider two things. One, there is a wide range of thought with Republicans. Some more conservative than others. This could mean that Idaho moves to the left. The second thought is where the more liberal inflow is going to live within Idaho. Although the percentage of liberals compared to conservatives is less, if they congregate in an area such as Boise, the influence of that large city will be able to out vote those in the outer part of the states. This is exactly what has happened in many states, including the state I am from - MN.
Yep, 1-3 metro areas 10% of the land mass can carry 90% of the remaining land mass, also big cities are easier to game the vote forever Also 1llegals are counted in census which gains lib states more seats in the house of representatives which in turn makes policy for the entire nation
One word answer: Mormons. They still dominate, especially in Boise. The reason we will (probably) never have legalized pot. Which I am personally fine with. Boise is weird, they vote for Democrat Mayors, then vote Republican for everything else. Even other local offices like the County Commissioners. Full disclosure - my step-dad was a Commissioner down south years ago so I know a little about the local political idiosyncrasies. I'm thinking the Mayoral race is dominated by public sector union endorsement?? That's a guess. Current Mayor of Boise even used to describe herself as a Socialist years ago. Coeur d'Alene is similar with Steve Widmyer having been a Dem mayor for two terms. I grew up 2 houses down from him and went to school with his wife. Good guy, our fathers worked together at Bunker Hill mine. I never held the "Democrat" affiliation against him - LOL. My Dad was a Union steward and a Democrat too. I don't think he'd recognize today's Democrat party though. North Idaho used to be the Democrat area of the state. We were once heavily pro-union with logging companies, mills and mines heavily unionized. The last bastion of that is Lewiston, Idaho, where the Clearwater Paper Mill is still a big employer and unionized. We had Dems like Cecil Andrus (good friend of my ex-wife's family and a logger), Senator Frank Church, and Congressmen LaRocco and Stallings in the 90s. Nobody will believe this if you tell them today, but in the early 90s BOTH Idaho congressmen were Dems. So it's gone back and forth over the years, but I wouldn't expect it to ever go back to Democrat as screwy as they are. Strangely, our most prominent politicians nationally were probably Andrus and Church and they were both Dems. Kind of a weird state politically in some ways. Good luck.
Even Hayden is growing so much. Hayden Canyon construction is underway and is going to be 610 acres of homes etc. I was so bummed when I saw that it was approved. I escaped the big city in Kommiefornia and now its coming here. Keep Idaho naturally wild and free, please!
Government way is a nightmare if you live in those neighborhoods. All these greedy developers started throwing up shitshacks without thinking or I should say giving a shit about the people that live there and the infrastructure of roads and such. These people in local governments that approve this crap need to be voted out.
My wife and I had LOL moments watching this video. We live in Alaska . Current snowfall is over110”.I also drive to Fairbanks 3 times a week ; they just had -40 for a week straight! Summer days between 80-100 degrees yes please. Red State , 4 seasons yes please!
Some cost of living comparisons, San Diego to Coeur d'Alene. Rent 2 bedroom apartment is about $3200 a month (just got my renewal for that. It was $2200 when we moved in 4 years ago) Cheapest home listed in my zip code is (3 bed 2 bath, 1400 sq ft) $1,025,000. It's also the only listing under 2 million. Electric 50-60 cents per kw, vs 8-10 in Idaho (electric bill is 5-6x as much here) Gas is $5 a gallon, google says it's just under $3 in ID Cost of living vs average Income is bad everywhere in the US now.
Im GRP n Northern California, outside of Sacramento and gas is about $3.89 to $4.69 a gallon, apartments are mostly around $2200-$2600 for a 2 bedroom. 10 years ago, I owned my house, but had to rent a townhouse 2 bedrooms with a large loft, for under $1300. The prices went up quickly after that
My conservative cousin from Seattle moved to Meridian . I’m still in Western Washington but I’m leaning toward southern Utah. I’m sick of Inslee type democrats.
Wow; that could come as a shock. Cold and wet to hot and dry! but there's a lot of open (BLM) land free to explore where basically none in Western Washington where even the beaches are privately owned (down to mean low tide if I remember right)
Give me a break with the propaganda. The "freedom loving people" are letting these liberals walk over them. I was flying back from South America last year to see a huge billboard on state line stating "save our children, save democracy, banning books", we all know that is liberal language for Marxism. I'm not going to go into the sick/twisted/perverted books in question all across this nation as you can easily look those stories up everywhere. It was a prop to "save our libraries" headed by 2 liberal woman from and educated in Washington practicing law in CDA. My point is, it passed. We also have the pleasure every year of "family" pride at the park. People have no idea that it is their fault in the end when they fail to see all the signs that have destroyed places like Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Washington, and Oregon.
How can you be freedom loving when marijuana is totally illegal?? If I moved there I'd become a multiple daily criminal offender for this reason alone which is beyond insane. Here in CA I can buy it legally and cannot be denied a job or fired for off duty use. In Idaho I'd be a pariah, constantly living in fear of your government or disgruntled employers stuck in the past demanding my urine to purity test. This is disasterous policy where everyone loses. California is definitely too liberal for me but at least I'm treated like a normal person and not a two bit criminal. I never understood how people can argue states like Idaho or Texas are freedom loving when grown adults can't even use a plant without the state coming after them.
@@dreaminez472 ..Not everyone smokes dope..I dont even drink anymore,dont think I never did things I used to put on raves(legally) I know all types of drugs and even Marijuana is bad to use and wrecks your life,like alcohol..Thing is best not to use any drugs yes even pot! I have seen lives ruined because they smoke pot,as you are even screwed as you need pot to survive now,sad..you're an addict..
I love north Idaho. I use to ride a bike from rathdrum to coeur d alane to go to work even in the winter. I miss being able to go up into the mountains and bike around. I'm in Kentucky right now helping my sister.
@@thenorthidahoexperience do you recognize the picture next to my name? It's part of the little north fork. I'm in my 60's and still ride a bike everywhere.
FINALLY, a pretty honest and accurate take on the current situation here. However, I wish folks would quit using just California, Washington and Oregon to compare Idaho to especially in the cost of living scenarios. Use other states as well because the 2 or 3 these youtubers, usually realtors, cite are the most expensive West coast states. Not everyone moves here from the left coast. I noticed that EVERYTHING here is a lot more expensive than say Georgia, Tennessee, Indiana, Kentucky and the like. Land here is especially out of reach unless it is a turd where you have to dig a thousand foot deep well to the tune of $150,000 for your first drink of water. If you even hit water. Nez Perce county mandates that depth. Actually the state does, IN that county. Do your research before you sell where you're at now to head this way. It can be a shock.
Awesome video. Glad you put it out there. Many move because it so picturesque and then reality hits them hard. Best to be upfront and get those that truly love what Idaho is all about.
These increases is spot on with growth & money flow .. everywhere , where's there is growth adjustment , there's increases in cost . Jobs which support cost of living has always been rough to deal with ... I am so glad I am not young with dependents ! & I stay away from the crowded congested area's as a whole ! I used to live in Troy , Montana & while living there , I worked every job that came available & still wasn't able to stay off government assistance .. it was very low cost of living back than ... I really don't miss having to concentrate on survival skills attached to every selected option may have harsh outcome that can be devastating ! Reality was my best teacher back than ! I keep my mouth shut now on what I am now selecting , due to , so many have also selected to do accordingly , only to cause such reproach & add to difficulties that should not arise from being responsible with their selections as they go ! Due to folks selecting poor options .. I'd rather not be associated with folks period ! I'd rather stand on my own merit . & not be judged for what others select ! I want to be left alone & mind my own business , & wish others would do the same !
Your videos are so well researched and full of useful information and you present it in a way that it feels personal and not a boring "documentary" type. Thanks Seth!
I'm a first-timer, and I enjoyed your video a lot. I do think the price of housing, etc. and low pay should have been items pushed to the top of your list. I would have to believe those reasons are overwhelming responsible for any exodus or decision not to move to Idaho. Anyone now can research (or, arguably, just know) the situation regarding the weather and political persuasion of the majority there. The relatively recent increase in home prices you posted did take me aback. Wow.
I guess I'll stay here in West Virginia. Not much changes and people aren't moving here. Every County is Red and if you just want to be left alone this is the place.
Also, as i had the misfortune of finding out, if you need medical care Kootenai Health will spend more time complaining about the excess population than actually providing medical care, be prepared to hear "there art too many people who have moved here" and "you really have to be your own advocate" during at least half of your interactions with them.
The comments have been great to read. Your information accords with both what I've read and heard from a couple whose children moved them where I live. I've recently begun considering Idaho from Nevada (retired already). I had been thinking a conservative county in Oregon. I'm not crazy about the weather in Idaho, but the Boise County Commission outlawing mRNA vaccinations for children has made me take favorable notice. Open carry without a permit is more inline with my own values. I've still got some life to live, and I want a state which will stand up to Federal authority. The only action which saved us from a far more permanent lockdown was states going against federal restrictions and reopening as they saw fit. States like Texas and Florida are simply too warm for me, and Idaho seems to stand strong as a state.
Don't be afraid - they're not bad compared to the Midwest. The years of mild winters are nothing. Sometimes I'm wearing shorts in late February. Fewer bugs in summer, similar fishing environment. Especially now we're planting walleye everywhere.
Completely agree. This type of marketing is done by people who don't care about Idaho and keeping it pristine and quiet and awesome. They're in it for the buck and use the excuse that it's "out there" to ease their conscience or justify it to themselves. I suppose it's inevitable but it's ramped up significantly in the last ten years. Sad
November to March Snow and that snow can last till Memorial Day. This channel cracks me up. Pretty simple business model for residual income. Blackrock is all that’s wrong with N Idaho
Interesting video to me since my ex moved to Northern Idaho. I think he got a government job there. I live in Central California, down the hill from Tahoe. I used to live in (at the time) a small town at a higher elevation. It was a small town until people discovered it, then, not so much. Digging out from snowstorms became something horrible to me and I am grateful I do not live there anymore. Thank you for this video. It helps me understand his current environment. P.S. One of the reasons I would not want to live there is because it is too far from the ocean. Mountains are beautiful to live in but I love the beach, too. Where I live, I can drive to either Tahoe or the beach and back in one day.
about 15 years ago I traveled through N. Idaho, looking for a place to buy. In Wallace the most expensive house for sale was $65k and the least was $8k. Now look at the prices.
This is my second move up to Idaho. One thing that hasn't changed between the 1980's and 2020 is that you can't paint Idaho with a wide brush. I can leave my house, drive 50 miles and be in a totally different world. Knowing that we spent the better part of 4 years visiting different places to live up here. Our 1st trip re rolled into Bosie in the middle of the night, checked into a motel, got up the next morning and it was like I never left Hayward Ca. So off to the nearby cities, if you want to know a city visit the alleys where we found empty booze bottles, used needles and trash littering the road. Not what we were looking for. The following years we found so great places but without idea properties to purchase. Our last trip we are driving by Texas ridge, there is a farmer on his combine, two dogs barking alongside, on the farmer's lap was a 5 year old, hands on the wheel totally like he was in charge of that combine. I'm like STOP the car, I want to live in a place that allows that! A week latter we found a nearby house and paid the asking price. 5 years latter this July we fall in love with our home and the people here a little more each day, maybe that wouldn't have happened in some of the other nearby towns and cities not far from here. As far as cost of living. Leaving California, I also left behind $7,500 a month bills, the cost of commuting, gas car insurance, rent, car smog, car ma electric, healthcare, groceries, nat gas, water, phone, city taxes and on and on. We consider our house paid for after the first 4 years of not paying rent and $600 a month plus groceries covers all those recurring monthly bills. So those high cost of living figures is probably a result of people submitting to corporate rules or poor financial planning .
This is such a touchy subject. We are growing so fast that we who have lived since before 2020 can't afford to live in our own state anymore. My kids were finally ready to buy a place then then all the influx of newcomers moving here to destroy our prairie and mountains and Rivers and deplete our Aquifer and poison our water and turn OUR home into something they Escaped from. PLEASE DON'T MOVE HERE!! GO BACK OR STAY WHERE YOU ARE> You made your bed fix it don't bring it here.
While I totally get where you're coming from... I don't think that anyone who is coming here "made that bed." Imagine living in a place where you don't fit in and your vote doesn't matter because there's some giant blue city that completely overshadows any of your votes. It's terrible and there's literally nothing that those people can do about it. N Idaho is not alone in seeing tremendous growth. All of the red states are seeing the same thing.
Well done video. We acquired property in Spirit Lake in 1985. The following February, we drove up from Southern California to see what the worst weather was like. We finally moved to North Idaho in the Fall of 2016. You get used to the weather, and even joke about it. I agree with the assessment that this area will be overbuilt until the developers move on, but, as the saying goes, it is what it is...
One item you missed is that our labor and delivery doctors are all moving out of state so they don't get accused of a crime for saving a mother's life. So if you plan to have children, you should probably do so in a free state before moving here. Otherwise you might not be able to find a doctor.
Red herring alert! It’s not an abortion when a pregnancy is ended to save the mother’s life. Abortion is the intentional killing of the unborn baby. When the pregnancy is ended to save the mother’s a real doctor does what he can to save both lives. If the baby doesn’t make it it’s unintentional and the sad byproduct of the mother’s situation.
@@thenorthidahoexperience Pretty sure the patient had better be near dead before testing it in our courts. Professionals don't want to be making a living looking over their shoulder, so they are voting with their feet. Some hospitals are now flying obstetric patients to another state as SOP rather than take chances with legislative intent. As time and court cases go by, maybe it will become clearer.
Check out the air quality. We get a lot of smoke filled days throughout the summer. The wind carries the smoke from fires in Canada, Washington, Oregon, California, Montana, Idaho, etc. if you have Asthma or other respiratory issues think twice. Air quality during the summer can be difficult 😥
I used to live in Idaho 25 years ago. What a time it was living in a log cabin on the bank of the Salmon River and working on the Middle Fork of the Salmon river. Me and Honey Pie were rafting, inflatable kayaks, hard shell sit on top kayaking and jet boating. We had bears in the apple trees, deer in the garden and a mountain lion just across the creek passed the outhouse. One day hunters shot both bears that were eating frozen apples from the trees. We were shocked that anyone would shoot 2 bears in apple trees on clearly fenced and gated private property. This marked the beginning of the end of a bygone era that lucky me got to experience the very end of. So many interesting people living big in stunning Idaho back before river running became dangerous and I headed to India and Nepal. Probably never go back to see what it looks like now! I have the greatest memories.
You probably ran into my friends , the Porter family , who ran a rafting company there too. Middle Fork Rapid Transit. Best times of my life were spent in that area. ❤
If Idaho wasn't so anti-women and anti-inclusive it'd be a perfect state. I was born and raised in Idaho and only left when I joined the service. When I retired it was a sad realization knowing that I couldn't in good conscious consider moving back knowing that any daughters or granddaughters would be treated worse than third world citizens as far as healthcare as well as the racial discrimination that is still going on. I know the anti-diversity mentality has gotten better since I've left over 20 years ago, but I have relatives there and I still see it when I come to visit. No state is perfect, but unfortunately Idaho crosses some lines for me. I'll always be proud of where I come from though.
@katiemccormick8846 Well, I don't watch the news, so I guess I'll have to counter with experience. Between the Arian nation in the north and the people I know crying about the Hispanics taking the jobs they don't want anyway in the south or the anti-abortion laws on the books that hurt women and the friend I have that got to watch the judge turn a blind eye to everything going on while her clinically diagnosed sociopathic husband traumatized thier child for no other reason than to spite her. Idaho certainly isn't perfect. The scenery is beautiful but the people need some work. From someone who grew up in Idaho, has family here and loves the outdoors, it's hard to say, but it is what it is.
@@jamesperkins5468 Since moving to Idaho after living in the liberal Utopia of Portland for 65 years I have been delighted by the Idahoan people and have been struck by the lack of racial tension that was so intense in Portland. I should say that my family is interracial to emphasize my point. Also, as to your notion that abortion is some wonderful freedom for women I strongly disagree. The butchering of a child in her mother’s womb is the ultimate violence, degradation and violation of a woman. Abortion is a depopulation tool as well as a vicious demonic attack on innocent children, the family and our nation. I love Idaho and am so grateful for the kind welcome we have enjoyed by the wonderful people here. You might want to spend some serious time in Portland, Seattle or LA to help you understand what you have here before it’s lost.
@@jamesperkins5468 I should add that leftist jurisdictions are anything but “ inclusive “. That’s the line they feed you until they’re in full control. In Portland it is unsafe to express who you want for president if it isn’t the democrat. A young man, Aaron Danielson was murdered for attending a Trump rally and the known ANTIFA murderer was allowed to walk the streets. It was only because President Trump sent in the US Marshals that the situation was dealt with. No leftists are not “ inclusive “. Not one bit.
there is also issues with people moving here and trying to go after local land marks. that have probably been here longer that even the majority of the elderly community that is around. or the people that have gone after the dams that bolth provide power and water to the local areas near them and have been there for nearly a hundred years. on that note those dams provide stable ecosystems to areas around them and have been a part of those eco systems for so long that removing them would destroy those hbitats in witch the local wild life depends on
Thank you for the very helpful video. 30 yr. Truckee-Tahoe resident. 5 months of snow on the ground. Regular HEAVY snows are expected though high pressure and crisp, clear skis are common. Northern Idaho is on the menu for three of my four (~ 30-35 yr old) kids and myself. Nice to hear it is becoming increasingly conservative as I/We were under the impression that Californians were destroying that. Surprisingly, I've heard that Idaho's gun laws aren't as friendly as everyone expects. Anyone have any comments on that? Only negative I gleaned from this video is "Cloudiness". Don't mind clouds but need blue sky and sunshine (even if we're at sub-freezing). Five months of grey/gloomy weather is definitely a factor. Will further research.
I am a political refugee and now a 2+ year Idaho resident…. Gun laws…. THE BEST…. Instant back ground checks…fill out paperwork, immediate call to DOJ, pay, walk out the door with your new/used firearm. No ammo back ground checks. No extra fees either. Open carry or concealed carry, both legal, WITHOUT needing a permit. However, if you apply and get a conceal carry permit, you can do that also. If approved for a permit, when purchasing a firearm, no call to DOJ. Your permit is your approval for that. Renewal annually and buy your firearms quickly and efficiently. Places like CommiFornia are doing the exact same process, however they just make you wait the 10 days. Typically FFL’s they charge you on Background checks. So far, you buy from the shop in Idaho doing your check, no fee for background check. I even have an FFL who will do your background check for free if you order your firearm elsewhere if you have a concealed carry permit!!! Makes you want to spend your money with him even the more!!! Yes, suppressors are legal, just have to go through the ATF form 4 process, pay tax stamp fee ($200) but that’s the same in all 42 states that allow suppressors, short barrel rifles, etc. As stated above, Idaho gun laws are some of the best 2A gun laws around. KEEP IDAHO, IDAHO. I Love this Conservative, Red State!
One more thing. Modern Semi-Auto rifles and handguns, magazine size is all available to you. Wanna carry high cap mags, buy them and use them. Wanna order large quantities of ammo on-line, do it! Ship to your front door.
I moved to Idaho in 1987 to Coeur d Alene . No job prospects back then so I joined the Army. Three years later I came back and Californians Had moved in and bought up everything. They also brought their politics with them. Also the price of real estate shot to high for me to live. Idaho is a beautiful state and I miss it sometimes.
We love to Visit Challis for the BBR, but it gets too cold for this Southerner, we currently live at the 38th parallel, on the West Coast, but are moving to the 35th Parallel in Oklahoma!
I finally visited Idaho 3 years ago. We leased horses and pack animals in East Yellowstone and camped out near Lake Hebgen in the back country. I like the area..
I've been looking to move to Boundry County for quite a while now. Over the last 5 years the prices have steadily increased. Now a single wide trailer in a park with a $425.00 a month lease fee is the cheapest thing I could find at $90,000.00. Idaho has priced me out of the realm of affordability. The home I live in now with 1.6 acres would cost over $450,000 in the Bonners Ferry area. WTF!!! Good luck to those moving there.
I lived up in NE Washington very close to the ID and Canada borders. We didn’t stay due to one thing only - jobs. Unless you are running your own business in a key service industry or have the ability to work from home it can be really tough to make it. When I lost my job 10 years ago we didn’t work that extra several months to find a replacement job into our emergency fund and that hurt us. My search area included NE Washington and Idaho CDl and north. Stupid thing is after we left I had a few really good companies try to interview me but it took months longer than expected and we sold our home and ended up in N Arkansas. Really like it here but would move back in a flash if we could. We are in a completely different financial position now and can easily fund our own business venture but you have to have a solid plan before moving to N Idaho.
sad about resort areas...... the locals cant afford to live close to where they work .have to drive 1hr weather conditions or summer traffic my fav area is north of Idaho falls , south of Pocatello , close to to the city but far enough away
Nice post, this was just luck I found your channel. My wife and I are moving to Idaho by this summer. We are leaving California ( very close to the Oregon border ) where we both grew up. We love it here but we can't take anymore of Newsom. This state has been going down hill fast and I don't think it's going to get better in our life time. I subscribed to your channel and will look for up dates, thanks...Chris
There's an area in south Modoc County where quite a bit of forest exists which I was looking at, but I am building on property I have in Lake County and that will be where I retire. But worse than finding a decent area, the State is on a horrid trend and Captain Hairdo needs to go. This was not always a sanctuary, but to be fair California has always been at the top of the welfare list for America as a whole. I know that wherever I am, I will always advocate owner-builder. I have a fixed assessed value for tax purposes, no matter how much I spend. Truth be told I could move anywhere I want to, if I would do one thing...sell my house in Santa Clara county. I'm at the end of my career, but we're going into the biggest downturn in the history of Silicon Valley...I have to ponder how my immigrant neighbors that came here on H1-Bs will fair out with their overpriced cash purchases?🤔 (so far prices are holding nicely)
Thank you for this video! I moved from Iowa 30 years ago to work at the building with the corner windows facing the water (it used to be a radio station) walked 3 blocks from a studio apt and took a second job at Corporate (that's how I knew it, anyhow) the brown building that juts out into the water by the hotel....the last building going north on 95 was the Kmart, and then nothing really resembling a town until Sandpoint. Crazy growth! I am grateful we have a home pre-pandemic, I don't think we could survive otherwise. One question, though....if older people are moving here and the service industry dissolves due to low income, how will they survive? Income will have to keep up to maintain, I would guess. I don't know, we don't eat out, go to movies, or sports anymore because of the cost of living, but all I have to do is look out my window at Schweitzer and that feeling makes it all worth it to me. :) You can't eat the scenery, but I'd rather eat beans and rice here (it hasn't quite come to that yet, thank God!) than feast anywhere else.
A man told me he heard in Idaho two young girls were mauled by a bear and he's unsure if they will survive. I've heard from many people that Idaho is a dangerous place to live because wild animals can get you and so many people are retreating back to the states they came from. I've heard the bears come out in springtime and it can be very dangerous living in such a remote state.
Idaho's got a substantially weaker bear population as far as grizzlies go compared to the surrounding states (Washington, Montana, Wyoming; Idaho's got a barely stable ~100, mostly in the Bitterroots, vs 500, 2,000, 600, respectively, or Alaska's 30,000). Black bears are still around, though they're even more skittish, and they can get into unpleasantry with people, mostly vulnerable (young children) or in surprise encounters, and the period of time where most attacks happen is generally late summer when bears and people are both most active. I don't think Idaho's a particularly dangerous wildlife place, relative to the states around it, esp. if the main focus is bears. You're more likely to have your trees eaten by white-tail deer than get into an unwanted encounter.
I would consider moving to Idaho but due to being a security officer I doubt I would find work that would pay enough to afford a mortgage and bills in idaho
Given what have seem to have become "conservative" priorities, you might consider having your kids and educating them before you move to the more rural areas of the state. OBGYN's are leaving and the legislature continues to be less than friendly to schools. A beautiful state to be in, no plans to move, but it seems culture issues and tax cuts take precedent over actual family needs at the moment.
Idaho has always been conservative. But Idaho has also had D governors and senators - hard to believe that was ever the case for sure. There was a level of reasonableness by the R/conservatives such that the common good of Idahoans was paramount. That has all gone away in the state legislature, school boards, and local government which are now over run w woke Rs, D Moon for example, (supported by their newly arrived extremists following their agendas learned elsewhere) trying to restrict every bit of freedom they possibly can.
I can relate to population growth, when moved to Indiana the city I’m in was perfectly fine until about 7-8 years ago and now I it’s getting worse,want to move cause it’s getting so crowded and with that more crime, water issues and traffic issues. Ugh
Don’t forget the growing fentanyl and drug business in north Idaho. The silver valley as turned into a drug super highway, with gangs being busted in pine hurst of all places
Great videos, you guys. It's very informative. How do your raw land prices compare to those in the Lake Chelan area. I know this question may be difficult to answer without certain parameters, but generally speaking. I was purchasing 22 acres within the boundaries of the town of Pateros, and it was owner financed. It's was a pretty good deal at just under $22,000 with small monthly payments, $172.00 per month. When the smoke from the fires rolled in 2 years ago, I decided not to exercise my option to purchase. I regret that decision. Do you have many properties there that are owner financed? Thanks, Don Wilson, Tacoma, Washington.
My wife and I are from California and we’re extremely conservative (Republican and Christian). We hate California liberal government. Fed up with it. This is why we’re praying about retiring to a conservative state (I.e., Idaho, Wyoming, etc.).
If I’m commercial industrial electrician and making good money in Portland (Intel)or Seattle(Boing)what kind of job I would expect in Idaho except roping new houses?Because home prices in Idaho are pretty much like in expensive states but work wages like in Mississippi)))
@@thenorthidahoexperience in Spokane absolutely not the same level of wages (probably half of Seattle)and no such high tech jobs.Only I can probably work on commercial construction like new department store and I have to be lucky to get hired))So,I have to stay in big cities make good money,good pensions,paid off houses and then go to live in much cheaper places like Florida or Texas))
I'm an electrical engineer living in CDA. Between Spokane and the mining in Silver Valley, there is plenty of work. The electrical contractors I work with have no shortage of work. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, nor do you understand the cost of living for each area. You should definitely stay over there. Portland and Seattle sure are lovely...
@@kennykash6089 I can go wherever I want but I will stay in place where I will get good pension in Union and not Mississippi type pension in those red neck places))good luck with your pension))
We are thinking of moving to North Idaho and will contact you for sure! We're coming from Washington we definitely like the more conservative lifestyle that Idaho offers. 👍
I just moved back to WA from Idaho because the cost of living and wages.cost of living in WA is still higher but wages are way better.Also the local towns out there operate the local schools on levy’s to the community. Who doesn’t want to support kids. 😅 but when the property taxes double and cost of living goes up who can afford another 2-4 million dollar levy. There’s a lot of nuances there that non locals don’t understand. Also on the people leaving, the snow load is a real expense. Just plowing your driveway and snow maintenance is a real part time job. 16hr days from work at the office to work at home. Not for the faint of heart.
Bummer. I have not seen property taxes double. In fact, they went down this year. The levy issues are also pretty nuanced. Most people want to support kids, of course. However, schools also need to better manage their budgets. Government has a tendency to grow...
Sounds like the locals are being priced out by other locals selling for big $$. Sad to see but it seems like Idaho greed to me. People selling property could give local families an Idaho discount if they really cared?
I live in Spokane valley 20 miles from CDA and the main reason I won't move to Idaho, which was not mentioned, is the state income tax. My parents had a cabin on lake CDA and I love it out there but the Cost of living is just too high to make the move and cant afford more taxes. Washington has no state income tax and I have a low mortgage rate currently.
My wife and I moved from NW washington 4 years ago. The 6+ months of cold brizzly rain is the main reason we left. I wanted to move to Arizona But we are elderly and my wife did not want to move to a place where we had no family. Southern Idaho was a compromise for us (we have family here). Soooo. I feel we traded the rain for the wind, its windy ( sand in th air windy) almost every day. 100+ deg. in the summer and teens in the winter. Would I move here again? yes, like I said "we have family here" and we can't afford San Diego. But I still prefer Arizona especially Kingman or one of the small towns in the higher elevations where the Summers are not so hot. If you like to Golfing or have to work outside I can guarantee you won't like Idaho
Im leaving due to outdated politics that dont serve the common man, poor childrens education, high cost of living vs avg income, and the weather extremes, Ive lived in southern Idaho for 39 years. It is a sad shell of the state I used to know.
It is very interesting watching the colossal shift happening right now because of politics. There is no doubt in my mind that the future will be "hard red states and hard blue states." I was shocked to hear more people left Cali for the first time ever! Glad to hear Idaho is becoming more red!
Are they leaving? Huh! I came here from central California after 58 years there almost five years ago. I love it. 8 of my friends and family from central California have moved here in the last six years. None have gone back yet. Yes it’s different weather than central California but i knew it coming in.
I'm a few years out still, but Northern Idaho will be where I fall. I miss the cold, I miss the snow. South Central Texas has sucked the soul out of my body and I miss the PNW. Well, I don't miss Washington any more, eff that place. So your video was mostly around the Coeur D'Alene area (I got married there LOL) but I'm looking at anything north of Hayden. I'm not big on Sandpoint (lots of liberals there, correct?) but I LOVE Bonners Ferry. Thoughts? I do love Kellogg even though that's like an Interstate town funded by Dave Smith Motors LOL. Thank You!!
Sandpoint is the most liberal city up here, but it is still mostly conservative. I love Bonner's Ferry and all of the area north of Hayden up to Sagle.
Another thing, if you buy an older, less expensive house in N. Idaho and plan to remodel it, you might want to reconsider . Contractors think the world owes them a living, their prices are astronomical and they won't waste their time doing a smaller job, they want those gravy jobs that make them the big bucks $$$$$$$$$
I grew up in norther idaho and after living in Alaska for 16 years I can’t do cloudy, mostly cloudy, rain and mostly rain and sleet, snow and the bone freezing cold 8 months of the year. anymore .. I’ve spent the last decade in Florida and have acclimated. I’m in greater Seattle now visit g and in he past two weeks it’s been mostly cloudy and out of two weeks ONE DAY (today) of sunshine…nope.
I grew up in CdA back in the 60s/70s. Great place to be a kid, back then. I'm old enough to remember when there was a permanent amusement park built on a wharf adjacent to the park, next to downtown. We used to go to the old Wilma Theater before it burned down. Went to grade school at Roosevelt Elementary, before it was condemned...1968ish?...subsequently turned into the Roosevelt Inn. I must be getting old. I'd love to move back to N Idaho.
I've lived in Midway Utah for 67 years. Everything you mentioned is child’s play compared to here. I went up to help my son remodel a house in Post Falls. I thought i was back home again.
How is the work situation like for car mechanics ? Also how much is the labor rate per hour at repair shops? Thank you One more thing, is there a lot of European cars out there? Or mostly Domestic and Japanese?
There are a lot of European cars here for sure. Not sure about the pay- you'd have to call around and ask about that one. With the current growth, I'd have to think that there are plenty of jobs in that field.
Boise likes lefty Mayors for some reason. Kinda odd, those same people vote for Republicans for every other office, but they'll vote for a near Socialist for Mayor. Go figure. Current Mayor is a trip and Dave Bieter before her was something like Idaho's Gavin Newsome. Odd guy for this area of the country - I met him twice. I'd describe him as an "Extreme People Pleaser". I think he would have given me a foot rub if I'd asked for one. Idaho is a uni-party state. Some people feel better because it's the Republicans not the Democrats. But it becomes the "good old boy" network no matter which party takes over. That and we simply don't say "no" to developers. Even if there are no roads, no infrastructure, no schools, and no real plan, local politicians will go ahead with the housing. Every time. Their idea is we'll figure out details later.
Politicians know they get more tax money when they have more homeowners paying property taxes. That’s why they green light development projects without considering infrastructure.
@@randysretired2020 Ya, and they do the math and figure out if they zone R-7 or even R-8 they get even MORE housing per acre and more tax revenue. Now we're getting squished in like sardines and the roads are plugged. 7-8 units per acre it TOO TIGHT!
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It's sad with what has happened in North Idaho! Our children can not afford to live here anymore the average house price now is over 400,000 for a starter house
Pair the high housing costs with a pay scale amongst the lowest in the nation , pretty much a recipe for misery ! I’ve been in CDA for 43 years and has steadily gone downhill for the past 6 + years . Demographic rapidly changing from conservative to liberal also from all the transplants moving here .
I was born in Wallace
guess who wanted that? The conservative politicians and local citizens of a conservative bent who dn't want regulation of any type nor any thoughtful planning for the future. Same as with national politics! The new-right in america over this past two decades is the worst thing that EVER happened in my beautiful country!
@18_rabbit 😂 wow.. It has nothing to do with politics; It's the people selling out to all these invaders, driven by their greed. Then once they want to change everything it's too late..
In 2021 Montana was our first state until we saw the political breakdown. Idaho was our second with Meridian, Moscow, Sandpoint, Coeur d’Alene, etc… but a house with some land and within 30 to hospital was waaaaaay outside the budget. Enter Wyoming! More animals than people. Considered to be the most conservative (2021) no income tax, corporate tax, 5% sales tax ❤
It was on our list as well
@@BobbL-tf3mewell, I don’t know about sucks, but the wind never stops blowing! 😂
Moving snow can be expensive. Even if you do it yourself.
I left Wyoming because of the wind and the 50 below zero weather like Cody Wyoming
These are the reasons we moved to Wyoming! We moved to Worland, which has a lot less wind than most of Wy. It's a small town and more affordable, but not the natural beautiful we were accustomed to in Washington, unless you drive at least 30-60 minutes out. Still, for these strange times, it's a good place.
There is a fundamental difference between California and Idaho republicans. Same with Idaho and California conservatives. Californians expect a certain level of modern necessities that are government-provided. They expect roads to always be clear, trash to be dealt with, and several other aspects of self-reliance that are foreign to them. There used to be a certain level of ruggedness required to live here in Idaho. The influx of new people does not possess this.
North Idaho has suffered the same fate as many "hidden gems" across the country. Talking to folks from the Reno/Tahoe area say that North Idaho is doing the same thing that happened there 30 years ago, same with Bend Oregon, and Eagle Colorado, Jackson Wyoming, hell even Spokane. These areas become popular because of their small-town feel and then get bought up by developers and rich people, they are given carte blanche by commissioners and then exploited to the nth degree, becoming over-saturated. The area then loses the appeal it originally possessed and the population is left to suffer the resulting high cost of living and lowered quality of life, all the while the complicit local government dances on the corpse of those they have sold out as they now "have theirs". When North Idaho is ruined it will move on to the next "hidden Gem", and the cycle will continue and ruin another place.
To add to the second paragraph though, it is a wicked problem, locals are complicit and share the blame. Many generational farms have been sold off to developers because the kids inherit the farm, don't want to farm, and just see dollar signs$$$ being thrown at them without regard to the long-term destruction that will happen when the Rathdrum Prarie is a big sub-division. Natural resources are then stretched to the max and you will have these weaker "conservatives" whining and complaining that they can't water their lawns and that someone should clean out their driveway and their road isn't plowed and the government won't take care of them enough even though they pay taxes, blah blah blah. Happy Friday. Good Video 😉
You have it really nailed it... Sad truth.
You're forgetting that Northern Californians are a bunch of ranchers and farmers. They are as rugged as they come. Not all of CA is city dwellers.
Coeur d'Alene Place and all the other cookie cutter subs aren’t being built for those kind of people, if they end up moving here.
@@thenorthidahoexperience. FACTS…. Don’t forget about those who lived in the Sierra Nevada Mountains! I’ve seen Snow bury houses there.
Spot on assessment here. This is the cycle that happens to all the good places in the country. Overdevelop, rinse, repeat. I'm 59 and I see it everywhere I go. People will never change. All they care about is that they get theirs.
If you're thinking about moving up here, its cold 8 months out of the year.
and then it’s scorching hot and on fire the rest of the time
With snow and ice and treacherous to walk on.
I would never move to Idaho, but I’m looking to buy two rental properties there!
No it is not! I wish.
Born and raised in Hayden, still liver here. Less than 2000 people in Hayden when I was a kid and government way was highway 95. Athol was nothing more than a roadhouse bar. This place was a logging and mining community. Those days are gone forever. The facts are that folks want to live here and there is no stopping it. Some will leave but the majority will stay. Our best hope is that the newcomers assimilate, respect, and embrace our values. Some of us natives have profited from the growth but the vast majority’s wages have not kept up with the cost of living. Wages have always been terrible here, but it used to be very inexpensive to live here. When I graduated high school, you could buy a brand new house in Prairie Falls for 58K.
Thanks for the comment!
This has been the story and the opinions of people residing in most conservative so-called fly-over states for well over 2 decades! I live in the so-called backward Missouri Ozark Mountains, and we have suffered from philosophical naturalists folks from Cally who believe we are less intelligent than themselves because we survive with far lower wages and far lower cost homes than what they have experienced in their former lifestyle. They tended to drive up the cost of our properties in waves for some reason. Fortunately. most of them eventually moved elsewhere!
As for myself: I used to drive truck OTR, and I always felt I fit right in when I was talking to Idaho folks. The land prices have kept me away though.
I am about retirement age now, but I still don"t have hundreds of thousands of dollars of spare money to spend!
You can't buy a shed on the corner for $58k
The problem is that even if they assimilate, they’re still here. Just try to go camping or go on a hike. The whole state is completely overrun. My entire life, I’ve been able to just venture out and not see another soul, but those days are long gone and they aren’t coming back. I had planned on living here and raising my kids here for the entirety of my life and now we are considering other places. It’s been very disheartening to see my lovely home bludgeoned to death by an onslaught of newcomers. Enjoy the festering corpse of a once great state.
Athol. I flew a sail plane at that airport when I lived in Mullan back in the mid 70's.
Ive lived here my whole life and CDA area has just gotten way to expensive. To many rich people buying up everything. Rents are way to high. Its not for locals its for the rich now.
thx to classic conservatives in every level of business life and state politics who wanted zero regulation, zero planning. Same as with national politics re the GOP! Sickening!
It's that way nearly everywhere in Idaho now. Videos like this one only make it worse.
My mom and dad moved to Idaho 10 years ago about a hour away from Lewiston and live at 4000ft loving it still
That's awesome!
I'm curious, how old are they and how much snow do they get?
When it comes to winter, you just have to HTFU. As for seasons, we've got
1. Summer
2. Getting ready for winter (starts in August and runs until it's too late)
3. Fall - absolutely stunning.
4. Winter.
5. January thaw.
6. More winter
7. Mud season
8. Spring.
9. More mud
Had some record lows up here in north Idaho this winter. We recorded -27F here in Oldtown and our friends a few miles away recorded -31F.
LOL, I love it, great breakdown of the seasons. Thanks!
Sounds as if fall is the best time to visit. I can read between the lines. Haha.
@@BusinessLawyerGA Fall is my favorite season, that's for sure.
Sounds like Minnesota but number nine is mosquitos. We have had a weird warm winter this year
Brrrr.... Here in central Michigan the temp only went below zero twice; an atypical winter, but still.......
OK, I hate to do two different posts, but the subjects are very different. When you mention that many people coming into Idaho are registered Republicans, you need to consider two things. One, there is a wide range of thought with Republicans. Some more conservative than others. This could mean that Idaho moves to the left. The second thought is where the more liberal inflow is going to live within Idaho. Although the percentage of liberals compared to conservatives is less, if they congregate in an area such as Boise, the influence of that large city will be able to out vote those in the outer part of the states. This is exactly what has happened in many states, including the state I am from - MN.
Yep, 1-3 metro areas 10%
of the land mass can carry 90% of the remaining land mass, also big cities are easier to game the vote forever
Also 1llegals are counted in census which gains lib states more seats in the house of representatives which in turn makes policy for the entire nation
One word answer: Mormons. They still dominate, especially in Boise. The reason we will (probably) never have legalized pot. Which I am personally fine with. Boise is weird, they vote for Democrat Mayors, then vote Republican for everything else. Even other local offices like the County Commissioners. Full disclosure - my step-dad was a Commissioner down south years ago so I know a little about the local political idiosyncrasies. I'm thinking the Mayoral race is dominated by public sector union endorsement?? That's a guess. Current Mayor of Boise even used to describe herself as a Socialist years ago.
Coeur d'Alene is similar with Steve Widmyer having been a Dem mayor for two terms. I grew up 2 houses down from him and went to school with his wife. Good guy, our fathers worked together at Bunker Hill mine. I never held the "Democrat" affiliation against him - LOL. My Dad was a Union steward and a Democrat too. I don't think he'd recognize today's Democrat party though.
North Idaho used to be the Democrat area of the state. We were once heavily pro-union with logging companies, mills and mines heavily unionized. The last bastion of that is Lewiston, Idaho, where the Clearwater Paper Mill is still a big employer and unionized. We had Dems like Cecil Andrus (good friend of my ex-wife's family and a logger), Senator Frank Church, and Congressmen LaRocco and Stallings in the 90s. Nobody will believe this if you tell them today, but in the early 90s BOTH Idaho congressmen were Dems. So it's gone back and forth over the years, but I wouldn't expect it to ever go back to Democrat as screwy as they are. Strangely, our most prominent politicians nationally were probably Andrus and Church and they were both Dems.
Kind of a weird state politically in some ways. Good luck.
That is a big fear of mine as well. I don't want to be governed by a large metropolis that doesn't share my values
True
Great comment, thank you for that info
Even Hayden is growing so much. Hayden Canyon construction is underway and is going to be 610 acres of homes etc. I was so bummed when I saw that it was approved. I escaped the big city in Kommiefornia and now its coming here. Keep Idaho naturally wild and free, please!
Agreed. There will be more coming as well.
Government way is a nightmare if you live in those neighborhoods. All these greedy developers started throwing up shitshacks without thinking or I should say giving a shit about the people that live there and the infrastructure of roads and such. These people in local governments that approve this crap need to be voted out.
Yep, same thing happening in my town. As Amerika continues to collapse, I expect everything around me to get even more crowded.😢
We left Idaho. We lived in athol.they keep building homes.not the small town anymore. We just miss are church.
What state did you move to? @@Davidmiller-fx9zp
My wife and I had LOL moments watching this video. We live in Alaska . Current snowfall is over110”.I also drive to Fairbanks 3 times a week ; they just had -40 for a week straight! Summer days between 80-100 degrees yes please. Red State , 4 seasons yes please!
Glad you enjoyed it! My wife would refuse to go outside in -40!
@@thenorthidahoexperience My wife says we should sell ice there
Yes, you can keep your four seasons and I'll be nice and comfortable in California❤
Some cost of living comparisons, San Diego to Coeur d'Alene.
Rent 2 bedroom apartment is about $3200 a month (just got my renewal for that. It was $2200 when we moved in 4 years ago)
Cheapest home listed in my zip code is (3 bed 2 bath, 1400 sq ft) $1,025,000. It's also the only listing under 2 million.
Electric 50-60 cents per kw, vs 8-10 in Idaho (electric bill is 5-6x as much here)
Gas is $5 a gallon, google says it's just under $3 in ID
Cost of living vs average Income is bad everywhere in the US now.
Wow, those numbers are unbelievable
What are the income level comparisons?
@@SIUDubFiendMedian Income is 98k in San Diego vs 65k mentioned in video.
Traffics getting bad.
Im GRP n Northern California, outside of Sacramento and gas is about $3.89 to $4.69 a gallon, apartments are mostly around $2200-$2600 for a 2 bedroom. 10 years ago, I owned my house, but had to rent a townhouse 2 bedrooms with a large loft, for under $1300. The prices went up quickly after that
My conservative cousin from Seattle moved to Meridian . I’m still in Western Washington but I’m leaning toward southern Utah. I’m sick of Inslee type democrats.
Yup
Wow; that could come as a shock. Cold and wet to hot and dry! but there's a lot of open (BLM) land free to explore where basically none in Western Washington where even the beaches are privately owned (down to mean low tide if I remember right)
Same here. Washington has way to many corruption and the people asleep.
I really miss living in Idaho and their freedom loving people.
It's the best
ID gun laws could be better for a State that claims to be so conservative.
Give me a break with the propaganda. The "freedom loving people" are letting these liberals walk over them. I was flying back from South America last year to see a huge billboard on state line stating "save our children, save democracy, banning books", we all know that is liberal language for Marxism. I'm not going to go into the sick/twisted/perverted books in question all across this nation as you can easily look those stories up everywhere. It was a prop to "save our libraries" headed by 2 liberal woman from and educated in Washington practicing law in CDA. My point is, it passed. We also have the pleasure every year of "family" pride at the park. People have no idea that it is their fault in the end when they fail to see all the signs that have destroyed places like Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Washington, and Oregon.
How can you be freedom loving when marijuana is totally illegal?? If I moved there I'd become a multiple daily criminal offender for this reason alone which is beyond insane. Here in CA I can buy it legally and cannot be denied a job or fired for off duty use. In Idaho I'd be a pariah, constantly living in fear of your government or disgruntled employers stuck in the past demanding my urine to purity test. This is disasterous policy where everyone loses. California is definitely too liberal for me but at least I'm treated like a normal person and not a two bit criminal. I never understood how people can argue states like Idaho or Texas are freedom loving when grown adults can't even use a plant without the state coming after them.
@@dreaminez472 ..Not everyone smokes dope..I dont even drink anymore,dont think I never did things I used to put on raves(legally) I know all types of drugs and even Marijuana is bad to use and wrecks your life,like alcohol..Thing is best not to use any drugs yes even pot! I have seen lives ruined because they smoke pot,as you are even screwed as you need pot to survive now,sad..you're an addict..
I love north Idaho. I use to ride a bike from rathdrum to coeur d alane to go to work even in the winter. I miss being able to go up into the mountains and bike around. I'm in Kentucky right now helping my sister.
Uphill both ways? Just kidding, great story
@@thenorthidahoexperience do you recognize the picture next to my name? It's part of the little north fork. I'm in my 60's and still ride a bike everywhere.
FINALLY, a pretty honest and accurate take on the current situation here. However, I wish folks would quit using just California, Washington and Oregon to compare Idaho to especially in the cost of living scenarios. Use other states as well because the 2 or 3 these youtubers, usually realtors, cite are the most expensive West coast states. Not everyone moves here from the left coast. I noticed that EVERYTHING here is a lot more expensive than say Georgia, Tennessee, Indiana, Kentucky and the like. Land here is especially out of reach unless it is a turd where you have to dig a thousand foot deep well to the tune of $150,000 for your first drink of water. If you even hit water. Nez Perce county mandates that depth. Actually the state does, IN that county. Do your research before you sell where you're at now to head this way. It can be a shock.
Thank you
❤ Idaho born amd raised but live out of state. I miss the wonderful smiles of the people there. They are so happy.
Awesome video. Glad you put it out there. Many move because it so picturesque and then reality hits them hard. Best to be upfront and get those that truly love what Idaho is all about.
Yes! Thank you!
These increases is spot on with growth & money flow .. everywhere , where's there is growth adjustment , there's increases in cost . Jobs which support cost of living has always been rough to deal with ... I am so glad I am not young with dependents ! & I stay away from the crowded congested area's as a whole ! I used to live in Troy , Montana & while living there , I worked every job that came available & still wasn't able to stay off government assistance .. it was very low cost of living back than ... I really don't miss having to concentrate on survival skills attached to every selected option may have harsh outcome that can be devastating ! Reality was my best teacher back than ! I keep my mouth shut now on what I am now selecting , due to , so many have also selected to do accordingly , only to cause such reproach & add to difficulties that should not arise from being responsible with their selections as they go ! Due to folks selecting poor options .. I'd rather not be associated with folks period ! I'd rather stand on my own merit . & not be judged for what others select ! I want to be left alone & mind my own business , & wish others would do the same !
I lived 5 1/2 years in SE Idaho in Pocatello. l Loved every single day of it. Entire state is beautiful..
Glad to hear that!
And the people are the best part of it.
Your videos are so well researched and full of useful information and you present it in a way that it feels personal and not a boring "documentary" type. Thanks Seth!
Thanks for the kind words!
I might even be willing to put up with the weather but land cost is just too high.
I'm a first-timer, and I enjoyed your video a lot. I do think the price of housing, etc. and low pay should have been items pushed to the top of your list. I would have to believe those reasons are overwhelming responsible for any exodus or decision not to move to Idaho. Anyone now can research (or, arguably, just know) the situation regarding the weather and political persuasion of the majority there. The relatively recent increase in home prices you posted did take me aback. Wow.
I guess I'll stay here in West Virginia. Not much changes and people aren't moving here. Every County is Red and if you just want to be left alone this is the place.
I've heard good things about WV
Also, as i had the misfortune of finding out, if you need medical care Kootenai Health will spend more time complaining about the excess population than actually providing medical care, be prepared to hear "there art too many people who have moved here" and "you really have to be your own advocate" during at least half of your interactions with them.
Bummer
The comments have been great to read. Your information accords with both what I've read and heard from a couple whose children moved them where I live. I've recently begun considering Idaho from Nevada (retired already). I had been thinking a conservative county in Oregon. I'm not crazy about the weather in Idaho, but the Boise County Commission outlawing mRNA vaccinations for children has made me take favorable notice. Open carry without a permit is more inline with my own values. I've still got some life to live, and I want a state which will stand up to Federal authority. The only action which saved us from a far more permanent lockdown was states going against federal restrictions and reopening as they saw fit. States like Texas and Florida are simply too warm for me, and Idaho seems to stand strong as a state.
Be careful of anywhere in Oregon because extreme left dictates and policies such as legalization of drugs, sanctuary state impact the entire state.
I am moving to northern Idaho next month from MN. I don't think the weather in northern Idaho is much different than MN weather.
Don't be afraid - they're not bad compared to the Midwest. The years of mild winters are nothing. Sometimes I'm wearing shorts in late February. Fewer bugs in summer, similar fishing environment. Especially now we're planting walleye everywhere.
Nah, gonna be way milder than MN
@@khester7397 That's good to hear. Thanks
@residingnorthidaho I had heard that and hope that is the case. Thanks
@@markw999I'm actually looking forward to learning how to fish for salmon and trout. But I like hearing about the walleye. Thanks
Stop posting on Idaho we don't need the publicity
It's already out there-
Completely agree. This type of marketing is done by people who don't care about Idaho and keeping it pristine and quiet and awesome. They're in it for the buck and use the excuse that it's "out there" to ease their conscience or justify it to themselves. I suppose it's inevitable but it's ramped up significantly in the last ten years. Sad
November to March Snow and that snow can last till Memorial Day.
This channel cracks me up. Pretty simple business model for residual income.
Blackrock is all that’s wrong with
N Idaho
I'm glad I crack you up
Interesting video to me since my ex moved to Northern Idaho. I think he got a government job there. I live in Central California, down the hill from Tahoe. I used to live in (at the time) a small town at a higher elevation. It was a small town until people discovered it, then, not so much. Digging out from snowstorms became something horrible to me and I am grateful I do not live there anymore.
Thank you for this video. It helps me understand his current environment.
P.S. One of the reasons I would not want to live there is because it is too far from the ocean. Mountains are beautiful to live in but I love the beach, too. Where I live, I can drive to either Tahoe or the beach and back in one day.
Thank you for this excellent information!
Glad it was helpful!
about 15 years ago I traveled through N. Idaho, looking for a place to buy. In Wallace the most expensive house for sale was $65k and the least was $8k. Now look at the prices.
This is my second move up to Idaho. One thing that hasn't changed between the 1980's and 2020 is that you can't paint Idaho with a wide brush. I can leave my house, drive 50 miles and be in a totally different world. Knowing that we spent the better part of 4 years visiting different places to live up here. Our 1st trip re rolled into Bosie in the middle of the night, checked into a motel, got up the next morning and it was like I never left Hayward Ca. So off to the nearby cities, if you want to know a city visit the alleys where we found empty booze bottles, used needles and trash littering the road. Not what we were looking for. The following years we found so great places but without idea properties to purchase. Our last trip we are driving by Texas ridge, there is a farmer on his combine, two dogs barking alongside, on the farmer's lap was a 5 year old, hands on the wheel totally like he was in charge of that combine. I'm like STOP the car, I want to live in a place that allows that! A week latter we found a nearby house and paid the asking price. 5 years latter this July we fall in love with our home and the people here a little more each day, maybe that wouldn't have happened in some of the other nearby towns and cities not far from here.
As far as cost of living. Leaving California, I also left behind $7,500 a month bills, the cost of commuting, gas car insurance, rent, car smog, car ma electric, healthcare, groceries, nat gas, water, phone, city taxes and on and on.
We consider our house paid for after the first 4 years of not paying rent and $600 a month plus groceries covers all those recurring monthly bills. So those high cost of living figures is probably a result of people submitting to corporate rules or poor financial planning .
Beautiful story
This is such a touchy subject. We are growing so fast that we who have lived since before 2020 can't afford to live in our own state anymore. My kids were finally ready to buy a place then then all the influx of newcomers moving here to destroy our prairie and mountains and Rivers and deplete our Aquifer and poison our water and turn OUR home into something they Escaped from. PLEASE DON'T MOVE HERE!! GO BACK OR STAY WHERE YOU ARE> You made your bed fix it don't bring it here.
While I totally get where you're coming from... I don't think that anyone who is coming here "made that bed." Imagine living in a place where you don't fit in and your vote doesn't matter because there's some giant blue city that completely overshadows any of your votes. It's terrible and there's literally nothing that those people can do about it. N Idaho is not alone in seeing tremendous growth. All of the red states are seeing the same thing.
Great video as always. We appreciate the perspectives. We can’t wait to move there and contribute to the community.
Thanks! Can't wait to have you here!
Housing cost going up 160% in ten years sounds good, try 300-500% in the last couple of years in SoCal
Oh dang! That is crazy
Well done video. We acquired property in Spirit Lake in 1985. The following February, we drove up from Southern California to see what the worst weather was like. We finally moved to North Idaho in the Fall of 2016. You get used to the weather, and even joke about it. I agree with the assessment that this area will be overbuilt until the developers move on, but, as the saying goes, it is what it is...
One item you missed is that our labor and delivery doctors are all moving out of state so they don't get accused of a crime for saving a mother's life. So if you plan to have children, you should probably do so in a free state before moving here. Otherwise you might not be able to find a doctor.
Pretty sure there's an exemption when it comes to saving the mother's life
Red herring alert! It’s not an abortion when a pregnancy is ended to save the mother’s life. Abortion is the intentional killing of the unborn baby. When the pregnancy is ended to save the mother’s a real doctor does what he can to save both lives. If the baby doesn’t make it it’s unintentional and the sad byproduct of the mother’s situation.
@@thenorthidahoexperience Pretty sure the patient had better be near dead before testing it in our courts. Professionals don't want to be making a living looking over their shoulder, so they are voting with their feet.
Some hospitals are now flying obstetric patients to another state as SOP rather than take chances with legislative intent. As time and court cases go by, maybe it will become clearer.
Northern Idaho is in my list for when I retire from the military in 5 years. Great content. Keep it coming. Thx
You know where to find us
Check out the air quality. We get a lot of smoke filled days throughout the summer. The wind carries the smoke from fires in Canada, Washington, Oregon, California, Montana, Idaho, etc. if you have Asthma or other respiratory issues think twice. Air quality during the summer can be difficult 😥
Thankfully it is usually for a short period, but can definitely be an issue.
I used to live in Idaho 25 years ago. What a time it was living in a log cabin on the bank of the Salmon River and working on the Middle Fork of the Salmon river. Me and Honey Pie were rafting, inflatable kayaks, hard shell sit on top kayaking and jet boating. We had bears in the apple trees, deer in the garden and a mountain lion just across the creek passed the outhouse. One day hunters shot both bears that were eating frozen apples from the trees. We were shocked that anyone would shoot 2 bears in apple trees on clearly fenced and gated private property. This marked the beginning of the end of a bygone era that lucky me got to experience the very end of. So many interesting people living big in stunning Idaho back before river running became dangerous and I headed to India and Nepal. Probably never go back to see what it looks like now! I have the greatest memories.
That sounds beautiful. Thanks for sharing that story
You probably ran into my friends , the Porter family , who ran a rafting company there too. Middle Fork Rapid Transit. Best times of my life were spent in that area. ❤
If Idaho wasn't so anti-women and anti-inclusive it'd be a perfect state. I was born and raised in Idaho and only left when I joined the service. When I retired it was a sad realization knowing that I couldn't in good conscious consider moving back knowing that any daughters or granddaughters would be treated worse than third world citizens as far as healthcare as well as the racial discrimination that is still going on. I know the anti-diversity mentality has gotten better since I've left over 20 years ago, but I have relatives there and I still see it when I come to visit. No state is perfect, but unfortunately Idaho crosses some lines for me.
I'll always be proud of where I come from though.
I'm not sure what Idaho you lived in but that hasn't been my experience here at all
It’s all in your head. Too much TV news.
@katiemccormick8846 Well, I don't watch the news, so I guess I'll have to counter with experience. Between the Arian nation in the north and the people I know crying about the Hispanics taking the jobs they don't want anyway in the south or the anti-abortion laws on the books that hurt women and the friend I have that got to watch the judge turn a blind eye to everything going on while her clinically diagnosed sociopathic husband traumatized thier child for no other reason than to spite her.
Idaho certainly isn't perfect. The scenery is beautiful but the people need some work. From someone who grew up in Idaho, has family here and loves the outdoors, it's hard to say, but it is what it is.
@@jamesperkins5468 Since moving to Idaho after living in the liberal Utopia of Portland for 65 years I have been delighted by the Idahoan people and have been struck by the lack of racial tension that was so intense in Portland. I should say that my family is interracial to emphasize my point. Also, as to your notion that abortion is some wonderful freedom for women I strongly disagree. The butchering of a child in her mother’s womb is the ultimate violence, degradation and violation of a woman. Abortion is a depopulation tool as well as a vicious demonic attack on innocent children, the family and our nation. I love Idaho and am so grateful for the kind welcome we have enjoyed by the wonderful people here. You might want to spend some serious time in Portland, Seattle or LA to help you understand what you have here before it’s lost.
@@jamesperkins5468 I should add that leftist jurisdictions are anything but “ inclusive “. That’s the line they feed you until they’re in full control. In Portland it is unsafe to express who you want for president if it isn’t the democrat. A young man, Aaron Danielson was murdered for attending a Trump rally and the known ANTIFA murderer was allowed to walk the streets. It was only because President Trump sent in the US Marshals that the situation was dealt with. No leftists are not “ inclusive “. Not one bit.
there is also issues with people moving here and trying to go after local land marks. that have probably been here longer that even the majority of the elderly community that is around. or the people that have gone after the dams that bolth provide power and water to the local areas near them and have been there for nearly a hundred years. on that note those dams provide stable ecosystems to areas around them and have been a part of those eco systems for so long that removing them would destroy those hbitats in witch the local wild life depends on
Thank you for the very helpful video. 30 yr. Truckee-Tahoe resident. 5 months of snow on the ground. Regular HEAVY snows are expected though high pressure and crisp, clear skis are common. Northern Idaho is on the menu for three of my four (~ 30-35 yr old) kids and myself. Nice to hear it is becoming increasingly conservative as I/We were under the impression that Californians were destroying that. Surprisingly, I've heard that Idaho's gun laws aren't as friendly as everyone expects. Anyone have any comments on that? Only negative I gleaned from this video is "Cloudiness". Don't mind clouds but need blue sky and sunshine (even if we're at sub-freezing). Five months of grey/gloomy weather is definitely a factor. Will further research.
Thanks! We used to vacation in Tahoe frequently. Came here from the Paradise/Chico area. I can't imagine gun laws being any friendlier than here...
I am a political refugee and now a 2+ year Idaho resident…. Gun laws…. THE BEST…. Instant back ground checks…fill out paperwork, immediate call to DOJ, pay, walk out the door with your new/used firearm. No ammo back ground checks. No extra fees either. Open carry or concealed carry, both legal, WITHOUT needing a permit. However, if you apply and get a conceal carry permit, you can do that also. If approved for a permit, when purchasing a firearm, no call to DOJ. Your permit is your approval for that. Renewal annually and buy your firearms quickly and efficiently. Places like CommiFornia are doing the exact same process, however they just make you wait the 10 days. Typically FFL’s they charge you on Background checks. So far, you buy from the shop in Idaho doing your check, no fee for background check. I even have an FFL who will do your background check for free if you order your firearm elsewhere if you have a concealed carry permit!!! Makes you want to spend your money with him even the more!!! Yes, suppressors are legal, just have to go through the ATF form 4 process, pay tax stamp fee ($200) but that’s the same in all 42 states that allow suppressors, short barrel rifles, etc. As stated above, Idaho gun laws are some of the best 2A gun laws around. KEEP IDAHO, IDAHO. I Love this Conservative, Red State!
One more thing. Modern Semi-Auto rifles and handguns, magazine size is all available to you. Wanna carry high cap mags, buy them and use them. Wanna order large quantities of ammo on-line, do it! Ship to your front door.
I moved to Idaho in 1987 to Coeur d Alene . No job prospects back then so I joined the Army. Three years later I came back and Californians Had moved in and bought up everything. They also brought their politics with them. Also the price of real estate shot to high for me to live. Idaho is a beautiful state and I miss it sometimes.
It has gotten expensive. I understand that for sure
Californians did the same to Portland real estate in the late ‘80’s and brought gang life with them as well.
We love to Visit Challis for the BBR, but it gets too cold for this Southerner, we currently live at the 38th parallel, on the West Coast, but are moving to the 35th Parallel in Oklahoma!
I finally visited Idaho 3 years ago. We leased horses and pack animals in East Yellowstone and camped out near Lake Hebgen in the back country. I like the area..
That sounds great
This is spot on. Well done sir
Thanks!
If those who want to leave Idaho by all means do so.
I agree.
I've been looking to move to Boundry County for quite a while now. Over the last 5 years the prices have steadily increased. Now a single wide trailer in a park with a $425.00 a month lease fee is the cheapest thing I could find at $90,000.00. Idaho has priced me out of the realm of affordability. The home I live in now with 1.6 acres would cost over $450,000 in the Bonners Ferry area. WTF!!! Good luck to those moving there.
It has gotten expensive
@@thenorthidahoexperience Ya don't say. Idaho would be nice but not that nice.
I lived up in NE Washington very close to the ID and Canada borders. We didn’t stay due to one thing only - jobs. Unless you are running your own business in a key service industry or have the ability to work from home it can be really tough to make it. When I lost my job 10 years ago we didn’t work that extra several months to find a replacement job into our emergency fund and that hurt us. My search area included NE Washington and Idaho CDl and north. Stupid thing is after we left I had a few really good companies try to interview me but it took months longer than expected and we sold our home and ended up in N Arkansas. Really like it here but would move back in a flash if we could. We are in a completely different financial position now and can easily fund our own business venture but you have to have a solid plan before moving to N Idaho.
sad about resort areas...... the locals cant afford to live close to where they work .have to drive 1hr weather conditions or summer traffic my fav area is north of Idaho falls , south of Pocatello , close to to the city but far enough away
That does create challenges
Nice post, this was just luck I found your channel. My wife and I are moving to Idaho by this summer. We are leaving California ( very close to the Oregon border ) where we both grew up. We love it here but we can't take anymore of Newsom. This state has been going down hill fast and I don't think it's going to get better in our life time. I subscribed to your channel and will look for up dates, thanks...Chris
There's an area in south Modoc County where quite a bit of forest exists which I was looking at, but I am building on property I have in Lake County and that will be where I retire. But worse than finding a decent area, the State is on a horrid trend and Captain Hairdo needs to go. This was not always a sanctuary, but to be fair California has always been at the top of the welfare list for America as a whole. I know that wherever I am, I will always advocate owner-builder. I have a fixed assessed value for tax purposes, no matter how much I spend. Truth be told I could move anywhere I want to, if I would do one thing...sell my house in Santa Clara county. I'm at the end of my career, but we're going into the biggest downturn in the history of Silicon Valley...I have to ponder how my immigrant neighbors that came here on H1-Bs will fair out with their overpriced cash purchases?🤔 (so far prices are holding nicely)
Thanks Chris! I fully understand your dislike of Newsom...
It'll be interesting to see how things look next year
Idaho doesn't want people from California. Stay in your crappy state
@@thenorthidahoexperience Unfortunately, CA Governor elections are not until 2026.😢
I’m thinking of leaving in two years or so it’s not the same anymore
Where you gonna go?
Thank you for this video! I moved from Iowa 30 years ago to work at the building with the corner windows facing the water (it used to be a radio station) walked 3 blocks from a studio apt and took a second job at Corporate (that's how I knew it, anyhow) the brown building that juts out into the water by the hotel....the last building going north on 95 was the Kmart, and then nothing really resembling a town until Sandpoint. Crazy growth! I am grateful we have a home pre-pandemic, I don't think we could survive otherwise. One question, though....if older people are moving here and the service industry dissolves due to low income, how will they survive? Income will have to keep up to maintain, I would guess. I don't know, we don't eat out, go to movies, or sports anymore because of the cost of living, but all I have to do is look out my window at Schweitzer and that feeling makes it all worth it to me. :) You can't eat the scenery, but I'd rather eat beans and rice here (it hasn't quite come to that yet, thank God!) than feast anywhere else.
Great comment. THank you
A man told me he heard in Idaho two young girls were mauled by a bear and he's unsure if they will survive. I've heard from many people that Idaho is a dangerous place to live because wild animals can get you and so many people are retreating back to the states they came from. I've heard the bears come out in springtime and it can be very dangerous living in such a remote state.
Idaho's got a substantially weaker bear population as far as grizzlies go compared to the surrounding states (Washington, Montana, Wyoming; Idaho's got a barely stable ~100, mostly in the Bitterroots, vs 500, 2,000, 600, respectively, or Alaska's 30,000). Black bears are still around, though they're even more skittish, and they can get into unpleasantry with people, mostly vulnerable (young children) or in surprise encounters, and the period of time where most attacks happen is generally late summer when bears and people are both most active.
I don't think Idaho's a particularly dangerous wildlife place, relative to the states around it, esp. if the main focus is bears. You're more likely to have your trees eaten by white-tail deer than get into an unwanted encounter.
I think outsiders see north Idaho and other parts of the state at its best and not at its worst.
Often the case
I wasn’t really thinking about moving to Idaho but now I’m definitely not thinking about moving to Idaho.
Information is good!
I would consider moving to Idaho but due to being a security officer I doubt I would find work that would pay enough to afford a mortgage and bills in idaho
A lot of outsiders did see the winter of 1968-69 in north Idaho when cars had to have antenna flags due to the high snow berms and snow drifts.
Sounds like a good time!
Englishman here. Hearing Idaho turning even _more_ Red...
....makes me want to move there.
It makes a lot of people want to move here…stay safe over there…
I worked for the US Forest Service in Idaho. I enjoyed the state immensely, but I am a conservative at heart.
That was probably a fun job
Given what have seem to have become "conservative" priorities, you might consider having your kids and educating them before you move to the more rural areas of the state. OBGYN's are leaving and the legislature continues to be less than friendly to schools. A beautiful state to be in, no plans to move, but it seems culture issues and tax cuts take precedent over actual family needs at the moment.
Thank you for the comment.
I'm glad you specified which four seasons you meant
I sense a bit of sarcasm in that
My wife’s liberal sibling talked about moving here… videos like this helped me keep her away.
Glad we could be of service!
I lived in Colorado Springs at the United States Air Force Academy in 1968-69 and that was a bad winter then for Colorado Springs area.
Cool!
Idaho has always been conservative. But Idaho has also had D governors and senators - hard to believe that was ever the case for sure. There was a level of reasonableness by the R/conservatives such that the common good of Idahoans was paramount. That has all gone away in the state legislature, school boards, and local government which are now over run w woke Rs, D Moon for example, (supported by their newly arrived extremists following their agendas learned elsewhere) trying to restrict every bit of freedom they possibly can.
I'm an Arizona native, but my wife is from Oregon. She said the endless days of cloud cover was pretty depressing.
I think the roads are very congested in northern Idaho compared to Montana but I like the lakes in Idaho
They can be for sure
Keep people from moving to Idaho, .
Not sure how to do that
I came from NorCal. I love North Idaho, not any different from the mountains I lived in. LOVE the Snow!! Athol is great!
Athol is one of my favorite places
I can relate to population growth, when moved to Indiana the city I’m in was perfectly fine until about 7-8 years ago and now I it’s getting worse,want to move cause it’s getting so crowded and with that more crime, water issues and traffic issues. Ugh
Yep
Don’t forget the growing fentanyl and drug business in north Idaho. The silver valley as turned into a drug super highway, with gangs being busted in pine hurst of all places
Will have a podcast specifically on that soon
Great videos, you guys. It's very informative. How do your raw land prices compare to those in the Lake Chelan area. I know this question may be difficult to answer without certain parameters, but generally speaking. I was purchasing 22 acres within the boundaries of the town of Pateros, and it was owner financed. It's was a pretty good deal at just under $22,000 with small monthly payments, $172.00 per month. When the smoke from the fires rolled in 2 years ago, I decided not to exercise my option to purchase. I regret that decision. Do you have many properties there that are owner financed? Thanks, Don Wilson, Tacoma, Washington.
Hey Don, we do see owner financing occasionally, but we definitely don't see land that cheap up here!
My wife and I are from California and we’re extremely conservative (Republican and Christian). We hate California liberal government. Fed up with it. This is why we’re praying about retiring to a conservative state (I.e., Idaho, Wyoming, etc.).
Let's goooo
If I’m commercial industrial electrician and making good money in Portland (Intel)or Seattle(Boing)what kind of job I would expect in Idaho except roping new houses?Because home prices in Idaho are pretty much like in expensive states but work wages like in Mississippi)))
You could work over the border in Spokane and probably keep doing what you're doing now
@@thenorthidahoexperience in Spokane absolutely not the same level of wages (probably half of Seattle)and no such high tech jobs.Only I can probably work on commercial construction like new department store and I have to be lucky to get hired))So,I have to stay in big cities make good money,good pensions,paid off houses and then go to live in much cheaper places like Florida or Texas))
I'm an electrical engineer living in CDA. Between Spokane and the mining in Silver Valley, there is plenty of work. The electrical contractors I work with have no shortage of work. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, nor do you understand the cost of living for each area. You should definitely stay over there. Portland and Seattle sure are lovely...
@@kennykash6089 I can go wherever I want but I will stay in place where I will get good pension in Union and not Mississippi type pension in those red neck places))good luck with your pension))
We are thinking of moving to North Idaho and will contact you for sure! We're coming from Washington we definitely like the more conservative lifestyle that Idaho offers. 👍
Please do! Thank you, sounds like you are our kind of people!
I just moved back to WA from Idaho because the cost of living and wages.cost of living in WA is still higher but wages are way better.Also the local towns out there operate the local schools on levy’s to the community. Who doesn’t want to support kids. 😅 but when the property taxes double and cost of living goes up who can afford another 2-4 million dollar levy. There’s a lot of nuances there that non locals don’t understand. Also on the people leaving, the snow load is a real expense. Just plowing your driveway and snow maintenance is a real part time job. 16hr days from work at the office to work at home. Not for the faint of heart.
Bummer. I have not seen property taxes double. In fact, they went down this year. The levy issues are also pretty nuanced. Most people want to support kids, of course. However, schools also need to better manage their budgets. Government has a tendency to grow...
Sounds like the locals are being priced out by other locals selling for big $$. Sad to see but it seems like Idaho greed to me. People selling property could give local families an Idaho discount if they really cared?
True
I live in Spokane valley 20 miles from CDA and the main reason I won't move to Idaho, which was not mentioned, is the state income tax. My parents had a cabin on lake CDA and I love it out there but the Cost of living is just too high to make the move and cant afford more taxes. Washington has no state income tax and I have a low mortgage rate currently.
Taxes always balance out. Property tax and sales tax are higher over there…
The biggest reason I'm not in Idaho-----COLD !!! I like a three-season climate, and winter isn't one of them.
Good that you know that, because that would definitely bug you up here!
My wife and I moved from NW washington 4 years ago. The 6+ months of cold brizzly rain is the main reason we left. I wanted to move to Arizona But we are elderly and my wife did not want to move to a place where we had no family. Southern Idaho was a compromise for us (we have family here). Soooo.
I feel we traded the rain for the wind, its windy ( sand in th air windy) almost every day. 100+ deg. in the summer and teens in the winter. Would I move here again? yes, like I said "we have family here" and we can't afford San Diego. But I still prefer Arizona especially Kingman or one of the small towns in the higher elevations where the Summers are not so hot.
If you like to Golfing or have to work outside I can guarantee you won't like Idaho
Im leaving due to outdated politics that dont serve the common man, poor childrens education, high cost of living vs avg income, and the weather extremes, Ive lived in southern Idaho for 39 years. It is a sad shell of the state I used to know.
Thank you for the info.
You're welcome!
WE DID 23 YRS AGO CAUSE OF THE PEACE AND QUIET TRAINS DONT BOTHER US AT ALL WERE USED TOEM
Good to know!
It is very interesting watching the colossal shift happening right now because of politics. There is no doubt in my mind that the future will be "hard red states and hard blue states." I was shocked to hear more people left Cali for the first time ever! Glad to hear Idaho is becoming more red!
I think you're right
Are they leaving? Huh! I came here from central California after 58 years there almost five years ago.
I love it. 8 of my friends and family from central California have moved here in the last six years. None have gone back yet.
Yes it’s different weather than central California but i knew it coming in.
Unfortunately, some don't know what they're getting into...
Pushing up the pay for public sector employees in this economy means sky high taxes.
I'm a few years out still, but Northern Idaho will be where I fall. I miss the cold, I miss the snow. South Central Texas has sucked the soul out of my body and I miss the PNW. Well, I don't miss Washington any more, eff that place. So your video was mostly around the Coeur D'Alene area (I got married there LOL) but I'm looking at anything north of Hayden. I'm not big on Sandpoint (lots of liberals there, correct?) but I LOVE Bonners Ferry. Thoughts? I do love Kellogg even though that's like an Interstate town funded by Dave Smith Motors LOL. Thank You!!
Sandpoint is the most liberal city up here, but it is still mostly conservative. I love Bonner's Ferry and all of the area north of Hayden up to Sagle.
Another thing, if you buy an older, less expensive house in N. Idaho and plan to remodel it, you might want to reconsider . Contractors think the world owes them a living, their prices are astronomical and they won't waste their time doing a smaller job, they want those gravy jobs that make them the big bucks $$$$$$$$$
It's more expensive than most people think
I grew up in norther idaho and after living in Alaska for 16 years I can’t do cloudy, mostly cloudy, rain and mostly rain and sleet, snow and the bone freezing cold 8 months of the year. anymore .. I’ve spent the last decade in Florida and have acclimated. I’m in greater Seattle now visit g and in he past two weeks it’s been mostly cloudy and out of two weeks ONE DAY (today) of sunshine…nope.
Yeah, that kind of weather is really draining
Don’t judge a book by its cover, is one of the best sayings. Also be careful what you wish for. 🙂
Winter in and around c.d.a. is really long
That's the biggest complaint
Far right wing politics, and very low wages drove me out.
It's not for everyone
Great video. Very informative.
Thank you
I grew up in CdA back in the 60s/70s. Great place to be a kid, back then. I'm old enough to remember when there was a permanent amusement park built on a wharf adjacent to the park, next to downtown. We used to go to the old Wilma Theater before it burned down. Went to grade school at Roosevelt Elementary, before it was condemned...1968ish?...subsequently turned into the Roosevelt Inn. I must be getting old.
I'd love to move back to N Idaho.
I've lived in Midway Utah for 67 years. Everything you mentioned is child’s play compared to here. I went up to help my son remodel a house in Post Falls. I thought i was back home again.
Times are a changing all over
4:32 There are different shades of red.
Ok, thanks
How is the work situation like for car mechanics ? Also how much is the labor rate per hour at repair shops? Thank you
One more thing, is there a lot of European cars out there? Or mostly Domestic and Japanese?
There are a lot of European cars here for sure. Not sure about the pay- you'd have to call around and ask about that one. With the current growth, I'd have to think that there are plenty of jobs in that field.
Boise likes lefty Mayors for some reason. Kinda odd, those same people vote for Republicans for every other office, but they'll vote for a near Socialist for Mayor. Go figure. Current Mayor is a trip and Dave Bieter before her was something like Idaho's Gavin Newsome. Odd guy for this area of the country - I met him twice. I'd describe him as an "Extreme People Pleaser". I think he would have given me a foot rub if I'd asked for one.
Idaho is a uni-party state. Some people feel better because it's the Republicans not the Democrats. But it becomes the "good old boy" network no matter which party takes over. That and we simply don't say "no" to developers. Even if there are no roads, no infrastructure, no schools, and no real plan, local politicians will go ahead with the housing. Every time. Their idea is we'll figure out details later.
We've seen that up here for sure. Developers always seem to get the green light.
You shoulda asked for the foot rub
@@thenorthidahoexperience Not from Bieter. He's an odd duck. LOL
Rigged elections ....the vote didn't represent the peoples choice.... The truth will come out....
Politicians know they get more tax money when they have more homeowners paying property taxes. That’s why they green light development projects without considering infrastructure.
@@randysretired2020 Ya, and they do the math and figure out if they zone R-7 or even R-8 they get even MORE housing per acre and more tax revenue. Now we're getting squished in like sardines and the roads are plugged. 7-8 units per acre it TOO TIGHT!