ND FILTERS on a GoPro Hero 9? SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON with PolarPro Cinema Series
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This video it is about 8 minutes of just words and less than 1 minute of the real ND filters test.
A lot of useful words
@@Truth_whisperer yes, words... just words no "side by side comparrison" ;)
@@MarcoMezzinilike 05:40?!
I'm a novice to this stuff so keep that in mind. My first look at the video I was actually leaning towards no filter. The pictures were, in my opinion, clearer (and yes I did understand your point of the blur conveying motion). But when I re-watched the skating footage, pausing it to compare. I had to do this several times to start to see the benefits of using the filter. After re-watching it several times I kinda wished you had tried it one more time using the 8 filter as I think the lighting had to be really bright at that moment to truly see the difference (to my novice eye).
Honestly as far a comparison there wasn't really enough footage or variance to form an opinion.
Pause it at any point and you'll see it👍
Needed more footage man
also the footage looked washed up. huge quality loss and motion blur was weird@@evertking1
I’d like to see more footage in different lighting- what situations you would use each filter etc
Mainly, the filter is just a tool that adds the ability to create motion blur in your footage. Sometimes you want that natural motion blur and other times you don’t want that motion blur. Totally up to you!
@@DavidManningvlog what filter can I use if it's bright outside but don't want the motion blur ?
@@adriandre29 try to lower your iso
@@adriandre29 if you don't want mb don't use any filter
I rarely see a ND for GoPro video address this: If hypersmooth is on your image will look like its shot in 720p or worse. It's not ISO, it's Hypersmooth trying to function but it can't because the image isn't crisp like it would be at high shutter speeds (using auto shutter). Hypersmooth requires crisp images to work well. This is why it doesn't work in low light. The GoPro lowers shutter speed to let in more light, but that creates motion blur and Hypersmooth can't figure out how to correct it so everything gets blurry.
For NDs on a GoPro I would turn Hypersmooth OFF (honestly it's not that bad compared to a lot of mirrorless cameras i've seen...). Yep it sucks but that's the trade off. Ideally I'd have ND filters plus a gimbal like Zhiyun Crane-M2. That turns a lot of people off. About $650 GoPro setup. But it looks good even kind of good in low light (Hypersmooth kills low light quality). You get what you pay for. Still cheaper and more versatile than Sony ZV-1.
btw love the reviews and dope skateboard!
You are the only one tat telling the true fact. I have been continually trying ND filters since Gopro 5, though the PolarPro made excellent quality filters, but just like you said the problem is on the Gopro side, GoPro didn't fix the issue, and probably they just can't, based on the fact that how Hypersmooth work. Many CZcamsrs are PAID to promote the products and of course they won't mention this issue. I watch David's footage over and over, I can feel that he was trying his best to hide the issue as well. So, David, I like your works, but try to be more honest next time, ppl gonna love you more.
czcams.com/video/LR7JyQ1ycXA/video.html check tis one, he is not a pro but he expained well
@@helloyxx yeah I won’t speculate on if this was a paid ad or not, but my original comment is extremely important for people considering ND filters. If people understand how products work they will be able to get the same quality of video as the commercials show. ND filters on a GoPro are fantastic in certain situations. A reviewer should highlight these scenarios.
@@helloyxx I've actually seen this video. czcams.com/video/YRmbakazcx8/video.html --I asked this CZcamsr to try the GoPro with NDs, Hypersmooth off, and on a gimbal. You can see his results starting at 9:13 of the video.
I'm not a pro photog, but I personally preferred the sharp (even if - theoretically - slightly jerky?) non-ND filter video. I don't appreciate the motion blur that much I guess. Then again, I prefer 60p to 24p, and you mentioned many times in your videos that you don't like the "hyper-realistic" look of 60p and prefer natural motion blur of 24p. Someone else also made a good point about hypersmooth not functioning as well with ND filters on. I think I'll stick to non-ND on my GoPro. Less of a hassle, less stuff to carry around and swap out, etc. So far I mostly use ND filters for "smooth water" type effects - waterfalls and what not.
At the same time, excellent video and great comparison of non-ND vs ND filters effects. You can clearly see it in the pavement, tree leaves, etc. The guy that said "not enough comparison content" is way off.
I thought I was the only person who like 60 fps over 24
I prefer a clear image instead of a blurry image, I never understood why people think "motion blur" makes it "cinematic" just because that's how it used to be in the olden days to compensate for the lower framerates, we have modern technology now smooth 60 fps no blur is "cinematic" for me, but maybe this is because I have a gaming background and most gamers(that I know at least) prefer no blur and 60fps. it seems to me people prefer what they are used to at the end of the day.
Gamers praise high frame rates and motion blur disabled. Cinematographers praise 24fps and 180-degree shutter speeds. Funny how different the two worlds are.
@@JuniorWA well higher frame rates in games gives you an advantage in online game. If you have higher rates, you will see you opponent first and allows you to react faster.
To me, the real difference is that in gaming, higher refresh rate and motion blur off feels more responsive. Movies aren't responsive. Motion blur allows motion to look smooth at lower framerates, rather than being jittery. Plus, when motion is blurred, it's easier to hide imperfections in the set, which helps the suspension of disbelief. In a video game, you're in control, so you're going to be able to stop and see the imperfections regardless.
Motion blur is natural to our eyes. Just swing fast with your eyes left to right or up or down….or just pass fast with your hand in front of your eyes…there’s motion blur, right? So, it is a natural way to see things!
@@Belamarimages so you walk around in your daily life swinging your eyes all the time or put your hand in front? sorry but that's the dumbest logic I did read in a while. end of the day comes down to personal preferences one likes to see things fuzzy the other prefers a clear image.
To be honest this seems like these filters aren't so much for action and more for single clips or shots. To me, that is not worth the money.
I also agree. Its not worth at all. i shot a lot outside and I dont use any nd lens
ND filters on GP kill the hypersmooth. From what I saw the ND filters made the images noisy and blurry. Sorry
Yup, but the blur is part of the purpose of the ND filters. Wave your hand in front of your face and you'll see that it's not crispy, even with very slow movement. Life isn't crisp, so to get that feel, ND filters are the right tool👍
@@DavidManningvlog There is no blur like a blur. One blur make a nice looking motion blur of your object when camera is static, or your sides on your footage when you are riding your motorcycle for example. But blur which mention Scotts Reviews is something, what make your whole "one or more frame/s" blurry, because of conditions ( stabilization cant handle that conditions ). If you want use your stabilization, you should never ever drop your shutter speed below 120, this is minimum actually for all action cameras now. Shutter speed set to 240 works with stabilization pretty well. Anyway, there is no reason to use 180 rule in this digital era. Use what do you like. If I could I would go for 1:1 ratio on my motorcycle, because that footage looks epic in some cases. For us, who want use stabilization and motion blur in same time, there is not camera which can actually do it yet. But we still hope for next generation WITH OPTICAL STABILIZATION, because i dont see a reason, why we could not get it this yeat, if smartphones already have it... Sorry for the english
@@vladimirstudnicka4343 to use Nd filteron gopro, must set the camera to 60fps and 120 shutter speed and above?
@@rowen680 it depends. If you are static with your camera, or you use tripod/gimbal, you are fine with any shutter speed what so ever. But if you want solid footage with EIS, you need 120 plus shutter speed at least.
@@vladimirstudnicka4343 understood. The hypersmooth+nd filter become a problem when we shoot under shading area. Trees, buildings. Correct me if im wrong
I like it better without. I make hiking videos and I want to show as much detail as possible. Thanks for making this video and explaining the difference. You just saved me a few bucks!
ME TOO.
I think it comes down to personal preference but also type of activity. In fast action like the one he showed, in the no filter frame there were too many details passing at speed that were "overloading" the eyes, whether the filtered clip was rather smoother and less tiring.
@@imagesbydavide agree
@@SteveBerwick I use 60fps. Makes for smooth action shots. Plus the option of slo motion if I need it. I cant use these filters anyway because then the sunhood wont fit. Sunhood trumps the filters. Its basically a necessity when shooting outside in my opinion.
Same. Was about to buy since I just ordered my gopro 9 but seems like without is better. With ND Filter is isseems more shaky..
Great comparison even with the CZcams compression.
It seems like going for cinematic motion blur negates Hypersmooth stabilization. But then again I prefer 60fps for action even though I am aware of the benefits of recording in 24fps.
It's hard to say, for the motion does look smoother with the ND, but there's a general loss of sharpness across everything. Perhaps NDs look better when doing hand-held vlogging.
Its for sure not as crisp with movement, but that’s the idea. If you move your hand around in front of your face, even slowly, you’ll see that it’s a bit blurry. So ND filters are creating a viewing experience closer to real world than without👍
I am not sure that consumers actually prefer natural motion blur... Either way this was one of the best videos that show side by side the difference in a way for others to get an idea of the objective difference it makes. You probably should mention though your make some pretty big compromises on your eis once you are at your 1/48 SS. Being on your board kind of helped mitigate the need for eis and showed off the natural motion blur in it's best scenario.
You're totally right Robert, eis struggles when there's a lot of motion blur in the image. For times when you're relying heavily on GoPro's eis, for sure go without ND filters!
Out of interest what shutter speed did the GoPro select? And what would it look like if you set to 1/48 and not fitted the ND filter? This would help me understand better. Thanks.
I can't see what the GoPro was choosing for shutter speed when it's on auto, but if I would have set the shutter speed to 1/48th and not put an ND filter on, it would have been super overexposed, almost white. The ND filter reduces the light and gets you a proper exposure while at 1/48th👍
@@DavidManningvlog ok - I guess I knew the latter - stupid question really 😂
For the auto shutter - I was wondering if there was a sort of EXIF info on the video like with a photo? This doesn’t really matter, I’m just really curious. I’ll go check some of my videos.
Keep up the great work - I struggle with solid GoPro footage but I’m often riding bikes in overcast skies and wooded areas / these things are made for sunlight ! 👍🏼
Hi! Many people have shown that stabilization does not work well with nd-filters. Haven't you noticed that?
I think you should warn people that if they want good stabilisation out of the GoPro the ND filters are not a great choice. Also if ones intend to do hyperlapse timewrap the ND filters are useless.
Agreed.
I prefer the realistic motion blur that the nd filter allows. It really just depends on what look you're going for.
Absolutely! For sure a tool to create a certain look👍
@@DavidManningvlog theres more detail in the non ND...ND filter looks more cinematic
the hypersmooth work bad with filter! do you set max iso to 100??
If I'm filming just one scene, I'll dial it in so that my iso doesn't shift. But if I'm going out for a skateboard ride like this, I'll set my min to 100 and max to 400
Yup unfortunately hypersmooth with a dark scene looks horribly shaky. In good light it’s great tho. So the nd filters for the gp9 are a bittersweet thing. But it’s not at any fault of polar pro, they make great filters.
As always, another great video! With the Polar Pro Filters on my Hero 9, shooting at 4K 24fps, shutter speed 1/48 sec, ISO 100 min and max, Hypersmooth on, and Linear plus Horizon Leveling produces some occasional shaking. Apparently, Hypersmooth doesn’t work well at slower shutter speeds. I haven’t determined if auto horizon leveling has any negative affect at slower shutter speeds. The footage certainly looks better other than this problem; particularly going from darker areas like a canopy of trees or a tunnel into the bright sunlight. However, the footage is for the most part unusable because of the intermittent shaking.
My 11 has no issues. Better upgrade.
I appreciate these side-by-side comparisons. I just picked up an ND for my 7, but have yet to get some to put it to the test. Keep the reviews coming!
It'll for sure make a massive different in getting that cinematic motion blur. Let me know what you think when you try it out!
Damn, u here too
Thankyou I am a novice and spend hours watching videos learning about my new drone and go pro and this video has really helped me understand filters more and motion blur. I do prefer the motion blur example ☺️
Action sports really needs the high frame right. 60fps for the win. If you want a cinematic look go with the 24 fps.
I'd say the ND filters do make it slightly better, but I don't see a crazy difference I would say.
Also, curious how you get so few compression artifacts at 1080p on CZcams? I always export at CBR 60, but I still get compression artifacts unless I upload in 4k.
I'm not sure how CZcams figures things out, but I'm just using a high bitrate to get the best quality possible!👍
@@DavidManningvlog Yeah, I guess no matter the bit rate it'll never look perfect lol. I just have another quick question.
It usually takes the detail out of the snow when I'm skiing, would lowering the max ISO or EV Comp help so that more details in the snow is preserved?
For fast moving footage, such as skateboarding, (moto)cycling and etc, no ND filter is the best option, but tbh I really don't think I'd use 24fps for that activity anyway. I'd love to see ND on/off for 5k 24fps and walking speed activity just like sightseeing or general walking.
For sure, I’ll include that in an upcoming video. I think overall, and I wish I would have said this in the video, but no filters reduce the “GoPro effect”. That look that when a viewer sees it, they immediately know that it was shot on a GoPro
I just got the Telesin ND filters (and CP)and love them so far with my GP9 and saved some $$$ too.
Man how'd you get the CP filter so fast. I'm still waiting for mine to ship (scheduled for next month). I can't wait to try that one out myself
@@jjcocoadventures3435 well, there were 2 packages....1 had the 3 lenses PLUS the CP so I got that one. The one was just the 3 lenses and order the CP lens additionally. So that's prob why. I'm wanting the Lens Mod like many and we had no idea they''ll be available for 75 minutes....LOL
I think that you dont use them at the correct examble.. The result from me was a blurred image.. But as you said its matter of what you prefer.. For you that difference of the road quality gives realistic motion and speed.. That i get it but if dont really like it... With nd Filters you lose hypersmooth... The Best result you can get from them is by holding the camera standy and slow or at a tripod. At a sunny beach.. Sunshine etc
Absolutely agree with you, it's a style of filming and if you're going for that, then they're the way to go. What a lot of people experience with GoPro footage is that it doesn't look like you're going as fast as it did in real life. They attribute it to the wide angle lens, but it's actually the fact that they're not using ND filters. But like you said, if you're not going for that look, then don't use ND filters👍
Great video, thanks for your efforts. I think you have shown us the opposite of your own opinion when it comes to filters :) Without filter looks more natural and way sharper footage overall. But having said that, ND filters are kind of a "must have" in very bright (weather) conditions.
Such an bright happy guy!
Thanks for make in my day again.
Yeah buddy! Thanks for watching man!
Def appreciate the cinematic quality of the ND. It does seem like the ND 8 would have been a better choice. Heading out to play with mine on my MTB this morning.
Yeah, it's just such a different vibe! For MTB I would tryout 30fps at 1/60th shutter👍
Huge difference now that these filters are waterproof for the camera. Love that they did that.
I'm super stoked to get these out in the water!
I think better illustration will be out on an open area, like the beach, or snow skiing/boarding.
You sort of need things near you while you’re moving to illustrate that you’re in focus while the background gets blurry
I have not used ND's on any of my GoPro footage. 99% of my videos are shot backpacking and hiking in wilderness and back country areas where dirt and misc "stuff" comes into play and not to mention convenience and time spent swapping out ND's etc. A lot of my clips are spur of the moment, and with weather conditions continually changing auto settings for the most part work. All that being said, I am still relativity new to the game. Great video as always, love my new shirt and yes I will tag you on IG when the op happens. Cheers!
I'm with you Gus, for what you're shooting, I don't think you need ND filters on. BUT, when you do decide to start filming some more B-roll to include in your videos or you want that more cinematic look for certain videos, now you'll know how to get it👍
@@DavidManningvlog Gus is my dog. :) I'm Len. I do use ND's for my stills on my DSLR 's and they work great.
Thanks for the tips!
what would you suggest when it comes to filming mountain bike rides
it would depend on what look you want, if you want people to really pick up the details on the vegetation and features then i would say no filter, but the motion blur with the nd filter would make your ride look faster and possibly smoother.
@@kadenjstrick3772 thank you for your advice
most of you should keeep in mind sometimes, when using low shutter speeds using the horizontal leveling, things can become a problem with artifacts in the footage such as a bunch of blurry movement and blurr
ND or not to ND that is not a question you should ask.
Looks good.. But do you use the ND for slow motion? I suspect you shouldn't because of the higher fps required would cause it to then become too dark.
It's the same setup for slow motion. If you're shooting in 60fps, your shutter speed will be 1/120th of a second. Then if it's still too bright, you'll add in an ND filter. So it's really just a tool to reduce light and be able to shoot at specific shutter speeds in different lighting conditions. But yup, the double your frame rate rule still apples to slow motion!
I think it is a bit more realistic with the ND filter. The cracks in the side were less distinctive and didn’t compete for my attention. Thanks.
Yeah, if you wave your hand around in front of your face, even slowly, you’ll see that real life is a bit blurry with anything moving
Another epic on-point review and demonstration. Comparison of the pavement motion under the skateboard sells it for me. Now I have to spend more $ and get these.
Watched so many of your videos over the last days, really helped me out! Thanks you so much!
Also I was wondering, can I use ND filters while skiing to really get the feeling of how fast I'm going or just to get the most cinematic look without having to worry about loosing quality due to stabilisation issues caused by the ND filters? What would you recommend?
I personally like using nd filters in the snow, and definitely makes the footage way better. The loss of image stabilization isn't really a problem for me, because I mount my camera on my helmet, which Is a natural stabilizer. And the tiny bit of stabilization that I can get from the camera is enough to prevent jerky camera movements.
Those ND filter make a big difference. Dope skate board footage... that thing is fast.
is this sponsored? What about freewell? maybe side-by-side comparations? i believe those are better and more affordable but would be good to hear your opinion.
Nope, no sponsorships for review videos. I’ll try to get my hands on some free well filters to do a side by side comparison👍 czcams.com/video/MKUQ1hvFt-c/video.html
Just shot a video saying that ND filters are the MUST HAVE accessory. And then my GPH9 got stolen... but great video as always.
Noooooo! How did it get stolen? Out of your bag or something?!
@@DavidManningvlog I had it set up shooting some bRoll while in zions, too many people I guess, cause someone snagged it
I like the filter but the GoPro is amazing raw. And it looks like in movies with the filters!
Apparently Hypersmooth will not work with ND filters..?
You shouldn't use ND filters if you're heavily relying on Hypersmooth to stabilize your footage. So basically, if you're in a situation where the camera is more stable, you're good to go with ND filters, but if you're shaking a ton, then Hypersmooth is going to struggle to stabilize the motion blur. You just need to know when to use them and when to not👍
I don't think there was more grain with the ND filter, the camera was shooting at 1/48 sec and that caused more of a natural blur where the other video, the non-ND filter segments the camera was shooting at a higher shutter speed to allow for the brightness. If you look at your face the filtered video is more natural than the non-filtered video.
I’m no expert but torn between filter, no filter. Some aspects it looks great with a filter and some other aspects no filter catches my eye. Maybe use a combo in my vids, sometimes use a filter, other times go without 🤔, seems okay, right?
Question. I had a gopro hero 4 and went to Florida for a trip. I noticed the footage looks great on my computer, but when ayed through a 4k tv it looks waaayy blown out. I dont really want to add the motion blur, but tone down the bright sun out of the footage. I recently bought a new gopro hero 11 for a cruise we are going on to the Carribean. Will nd filters help block out the bright sun and still shoot with normal settings? Does it keep hypersmooth with them on the camera without changing shutter speed. All i want to to is tone down the glare of that bright carribean sun. Thoughts?
You'll see a whole lot less of that high contrast on the Hero 11, but a lot of that matters with your TV as well. The image on your computer should be used to see what the footage actually looks like. If your tv then takes that same footage and ups the contrast, then that's something you might look to adjust on the tv👍
Any issues with ND with 1/48 shutter & IBIS not working well on GoPro? Does hyper smooth work Even with low shutter???
You shouldn't use ND filters if you're heavily relying on Hypersmooth to stabilize your footage. So basically, if you're in a situation where the camera is more stable, you're good to go with ND filters, but if you're shaking a ton, then Hypersmooth is going to struggle to stabilize the motion blur. You just need to know when to use them and when to not👍
@@DavidManningvlog thinking of grabbing a crane M2 gimbal to be able to disable ibis.. but I agree it would all depend on what shots I’m trying to get.
Great review as always David :), Think without the filter is a lot more clear and has loads more detail
Yup, but there's just no motion blur, so there's something about it that looks really odd. Motion blur conveys movement to your viewer and without it, you get that odd GoPro effect
My question relates to ND filter and whether it reduces stabilisation? Especially for people who use it as an action camera, I personally use it for snowboarding mostly.
Is having the shutter speed twice the frame rate better just for Gopros, or in general with all cameras it looks better?
What about just a polarizing filter? My issue is glare, but I want to be able to keep as much detail in the video as possible.
I really like the footage with the nd filter. The footage without an nd isn't bad either! Like you said, for different reasons, they both work well.
Absolutely! They're for sure different tools for different things👍
Oh yooo that seems perfect for me. I’ve just found out about the double shutter speed thing and my footage looks a lot nicer but I’d normally have the EV comp at -1 or something. Seems like a good solution
I really tried hard to use ND filters and kind of get my video to the next level, but it doesn't work for me.
When motovlogging I have to deal with constantly changing lighting conditions. So it's hard to pick just one ND filter that matches all these conditions. And the other thing I experienced is, that the added ND filter had a very bad impact on image stabilization. It's almost knocked out completely.
Is there something I do wrong? Or is there any additional tip/rule of thumb that I can use?
If you need a lot of stabilization, like with motovlogging, I wouldn't go the ND filter route. Unfortunately, GoPro's require super crisp images to do their electronic stabilization algorithms, so adding more motion blur can actually hurt your camera's ability to stabilize
No you're not doing anything wrong.. when the image gets darker (gets darker using an ND filter) the slower the shutter speed is to allow more light into sensor; so using an ND filter mimics low light so the shutter slows down to allow for more light to expose the sensor but the problem with that is HyperSmooth requires a fast shutter speed to work correctly. If you're out at night filming, HyperSmooth basically turns off completely.. it's a known con with ND filters but this dude is being paid to promote these / getting paid convincing you they're necessary and clicking his link.
I just find them pointless, put a 16 on when you're outside, go indoors and you have to remove it and put the standard back on so you don't have noisy footage and stabilization works correctly. So you always have to carry a pack of ND filters in your pocket.
I don't have a perfect solution, but you can try a few different things to see if you like them any better. They won't be perfect, but maybe worth a shot. Set ISO min to 100. If you're out in the sun (not under shade) pick the ND filter that best exposes you. Set ISO max to 200 or 400. This isn't ideal but it lets the camera help adjust when you go through shaded areas. Each ISO step is like lowering your ND filter a step (kind of), so if you're using an ND 32 and you go into a shaded area ISO 200 will try to digitally compensate to more like an ND 16. and ISO 400 to an ND 8. Each ISO step will make the image slightly worse, so that's your trade off. Might not notice it at 200 or 400 though. Hypersmooth will make everything look crappy sadly with NDs. I'd try it without hypersmooth on just to see how shaky your image is. If you decide hypersmooth is better you can try to help it by picking a higher shutter speed. This reduces the amount of motion blur but helps the stabilization so just have to find the sweet spot that you like best. Hope this helps some.
Great video. For sure it looks better with ND filters but hypersmooth is unusable when you put nd filters because the stabilizer need lots of light to work well...
I guess I am not sure why you want the motion blur. Like as an example when you showed rolling over the cracks. It was crisp. I just like a crisp look.
Hi maybe I missed a part of this video, I’m using GoPro hero 9 with polar pro ND16 filter as you suggested. When I film in 5k 24 amd shutter speed 1/48 I get blurry footage due to the stabilization not working properly how do I get around that without buying a gimbal for my GoPro, thanks
Great info. I tried to double my shutter and yep it blew it out so def need a filter. Cheers from Australia
Cheers to Australia! Let me know what you think of your footage when you get the filters!
the moment you stick an ND filter on the GoPro and use it like an action cam with stabilization it's going to look like crap.. blurry footage and unstabilized... so it's always up to finding a balance of the actual conditions and expected outcome, if the scenes are very dynamic or the camera is pretty stabilized. ND filters work fine with GoPro cams only if the in-camera stabilization (hypersmooth) is off, you can try it yourself. The rest of youtube is advertising and lots of partnership promotions in general unfortunately...
Personally I though the auto focus was a better shot. It's showed just enough motion blur to get the point across without distorting the image. You should do a comparison with the different filters.
Love that idea! At some point, I'll run through that
??So you the ND filter won’t work if shutter speed is auto? Wonder how this is going to work going in and out of the trees on my MTB rides 🤔 guess I’ll find out…
Hey David love your videos and appreciate all of the tips you share. I think the problem comes down to expectations vs. reality. We (consumers) expect a product that produces the effects demonstrated in merchandising videos, especially after spending our hard earned money. The reality is, manufacturers rush out a product to meet an annual launch date, knowing that the product isn't complete, banking on hype and previous product reputation. What's happening is we're getting half-baked products that we still have to go back and buy additional items for afterwards. Then, it becomes more expensive than it's worth, especially when factoring in the return on investment.
I feel like you're talking more about the GoPro than the ND filters. Because these ND filters are almost identical to the previous models, they're just refitted for the new GoPro. Are you talking about the Hero 9?
@@DavidManningvlog Yeah you're right. I was referring more to the Hero 8. I bought mine earlier this summer and was so excited for it based on all of the reviews and videos I watched and in a lot of ways, I was really let down by it.
Well, you convinced me to purchase a set of ND filters. I can see the advantage to using them on sunny days. Do you have plans to review the newly released DJI Pocket 2? Would love your take on it. Keep up the awesome content!
Amazon link of your tripod and mounting bar please...that was a great comparison btw
I like your presentation. My experience with an ND 8 filter on a Panasonic camera is positive.
I would prefer to go for a Go Pro Hero 9 in combination with only one ND filter (ND8).
This would give me a good compromise between portability and quality.
Side by side comparisons are great. Thank you.
You use premiere pro only or final cut pro also?
Just Premiere Pro for me!
Ok, but I just received a new Hero 9 and I notice lens flare anytime I’m facing the direction of the sun. I don’t even have to point at the sun, just face in the general direction of its light and all these circle flares appear. Can I do anything about that? Should a new clean lens do that?
what an AMAZING video!!! SO informative, fun, energetic AND amazing examples!! Love love love 🔥
How do you change your shutter speed in gopro 9? Thank you
Just tap into the settings and you'll see it if you scroll down to ProTune settings 👍
Thanks bro love your videos...
Very nice bro
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Thank you very much, I'm glad you have it, I want to buy this ND 32 filter on my gopro9 camara, I will take a video in my dezi, can you recommend it 😍😍
Have you tried the Freewell ones as well? How do they compare? And what's your take on CPL for GoPro?
Hi David! thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I have a VIQ (Very important question). Using an ND Filter with go pro means being able to shoot at lower shutter speeds and getting that motion blur we all love, as you well explain in the video. However, it also means that you are going to loose advantadge of the great Hypersmooth stabilization. The video will look shaky as if the camera was handheld without the hypersmooth on. We can use a gimbal stabilizer BUT..and here comes my question...what if we want to use the less equipment possible but also getting that motion blur effect?, could we get that in post-production with a third-party software such as AE, Nuke or Davinci Resolve?..would it be kind of the same effect?
THANKS!!
It's for sure the trade off! If you're going to be doing a lot of shaky moves and are relying on Hypersmooth for your video, then I wouldn't recommend using an ND filter. But if you're doing something like I was in this video on a skateboard or you're using a GoPro to vlog, then the ND filter is going to give you the best footage possible. The effects in post don't look natural at all in my opinion👍
Exactly what I wanted...so for action video, it's a no no, for cinematic, ND filter all the way. Thanks mate!
I liked the no ND filter better since it was sharper. I did not like ND filter at all because it seemed grainy
I like sharp crisp image, so footage without ND filter look pleasant to my eyes. ND filter usually look better on still footage , for example time laspe video where shutter open for longer period of time. Or taking picture or video of sunset.
Is there a decent cheaper option just in case your gopro is likely to get thrown into the ground, say maybe from a 100 ft drop from an FPV quad copter, my gopro is likely to get swapped at bestbuy a few times a year.
That’s the issue tho isn’t it… realising that you should have used a different filter. But it’s too late and you’ve missed your perfect shot. For me, the gopro does a great job and it’s not worth missing a moment because you used the wrong setting or filter.
Is there a way to use nd filters with the gopro 11 and get motion blur with stabilization on without getting the notorious jitters in the video that occurs when shooting at a fixed lower ss other than turning stabilization off and adding stabilization in post editing?
Great vid! I love how u make things look so simple! Gonna watch the video on nd filters and 180 rule next!
MOST DEFINITELY ...WITHOUT!!!! I do a lot of fishing in rivers and open ocean. I want to capture as much natural real time motion as possible when on a fish hook-up. What I need tho is a polarizing Filter to remove glare from the water surface.
Hi from the UK😊.
Great comparison, like night and day, the motion blur looks amazing. My hero 9 arrives tomorrow! Whoo hoo!
First ever GoPro....now I need some filters:-)
Love the content.👍
So stoked for you! You're going to love it!
@@DavidManningvlog Thanks David👍
I think this is the best tip I've found so far. These baby's are out of stock on the go pro store.🤪
Gonna pick them up asap, it really is night and day.
The profile view of the wheels spinning when paused looks great.
I now understand why some footage can look so choppy.👍
Freewell make filters that are probably on par with these polar pro ones.
Liked, sub’d commenting now… I’m a MTB CZcamsr (first time I’ve called myself that LOL). Bought the polar pro ND filters for my hero 9, which I planned on using during my high speed POV mountain Bike vids. Now I’m realizing that I can use these for much more. Thanks man!
Man, i love your videos and your presentation, wish i can give you more than just ONE sub, was soo surprised to see you dont have more subscribers, will keep hitting the like and comment on everything from now on
Nice information.
I just this set of ND filters for my GoPro 9 for Christmas. Woot! What happens if you have everything set on auto with an nd filter? Will it naturally slow down the speed or is it always better to dial it in? And if I do dial it in how do I know which filter short of filming, running inside to upload and view it and then running back outside to refilm if I get it wrong? Is there an easier way? Help!
OK OK OK OK I trust you and I love your videos BUT ..... and i dont know the answer to this - what about the Sandmarc Variable ND filter coming out in November ?
Sandmarc makes great budget filters, but it looks like they're going for a variable ND filter for their GoPro setup. For super wide angle lenses like a GoPro, it's really difficult to make a good variable ND filter that doesn't have cross polarization issues. I'm super curious what they can make for 60 bucks, but I'm for sure skeptical😬
Thank you for replying , I have been struggling with this question for a couple days because Im new to the GoPro and I dont want to keep changing the filters, I want to leave the stuff I dont need in the car but if the fixed ND filters are way better , of coarse Im going to go that route. Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
Could you imagine if GoPros had a variable aperture 😮
i want that boke
Do you have an editing software for GoPro 10 videos to use on a laptop that you recommend? Easy to use, some filter settings to soften faces and add music or voice-over?
do you get sun flares with those filters?? I bought non original ones and they do..wonder if it's normal.. thanks
Is it possible to use ND Filters with an additional Max Lens Mod?
Been looking for a video on this, so glad you made one! Thank you! Keep it up! 👍🏻 .....loving the positivity! 👍🏻
Whoop whoop!
I get the whole motion blur thing but it also seemed to make the picture look a little too soft imo. For example your beard looks a fair bit softer and lacking detail with the nd filter. I prefer the nd blur, but the non nd resolution
can we use a power bank for gopro hero 9 instead of putting the battery in for longer battery life?
can you please make a video on that?
What is that tripod you have?! I clicked on the link in the description and a “mefoto” tripod came up. It doesn’t look like the one in the video. Thanks in advance…
Do these filters fit if using hero9 media mod? (Any vids on that?) thx man… new sub
Thanks a lot bro! Just started a YT motovlog channel and was looking for a good ND filters for my GP9 .
Have you had any issues with the hyper smooth causing "jitter" with the shutter speed at 1/48 and the FPS at 24?