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  • Which brand has the best digital piano sound? Find out as Jack & Dan go on a Blindfold Challenge testing out the Nord Grand, Yamaha Montage 8, Roland Fantom & an affordable Casio CDP-S100 plugged into Keyscape VST! Which one would you choose?
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    Piano & Keyboard players have been trying to find the best digital piano for decades. With each new model giving you the latest in piano touch feel & sound, how can you tell that you're getting the best keyboard for you? In today's episode, Jack & Dan quest on a blindfold challenge to take brands out of the equation & focus truly on how these keyboards feel & sound.
    With some of the biggest brands such as Nord, Yamaha, Roland & Casio, which digital piano will the guys pick when choosing their ideal keyboard?
    ↪️ Episode Guide ↩️
    » 0:00 Ultimate Keyboard Blindfold Challenge
    » 1:27 Roland Fantom 88
    » 2:21 Casio CDP S100 With Keyscape
    » 4:04 Yamaha Montage
    » 5:01 Nord Grand Stage
    » 7:39 Yamaha Montage
    » 8:38 Roland Fantom 88
    » 9:30 Casio CDP S100 With Keyscape
    » 10:24 How Do They Rank?
    » 11:40 The Reveal!
    » 15:17 Let's Hear How They Sound Without The Blindfold
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  • @throbberikk
    @throbberikk Před 3 lety +101

    you guys seriously have to do a Christmas video this year, low light, soft focus, couple of guests just chatting in-front of a log fire with Jack whilst Dan noodles way on the piano freaking awesome!

    • @AndertonsKeyboardDept
      @AndertonsKeyboardDept  Před 3 lety +13

      We can't wait...

    • @playnamz78
      @playnamz78 Před 3 lety +1

      Right on! And make s’mores and have Dan play what sounds like s’mores over campfire 🔥 , again blind folded in five keyboards 😂

    • @calebreid4398
      @calebreid4398 Před 3 lety +1

      Is it happening soon

  • @lebinolivier6548
    @lebinolivier6548 Před 3 lety +25

    Interesting comparison. I agree with the conclusion. Montage and Fantom are Workstations, they can't fight with the enormous Keyscape Piano sound bank ( 200Gb I think). And Nord sound is also more natural. By the way, I love the pieces and the pianist. What is his name ? Dan Who ? What are the pieces from ? Especially the first one (played on the Roland and the Casio) , with Bb - Bb/D - Fsus/C - Eb/G ... So nice. At 9:35 I think I recognize Nimrod by Edward Elgar. Again who is the player and were can I ear more of him ? Sorry Jack, I like You too of course

  • @edinatl2008
    @edinatl2008 Před 3 lety +36

    Binghamz is a madman, kills it every time. I got the Nord Grand about a month ago and I gotta say videos like this went a long way in helping me decide. Thanks from Atlanta!

    • @Fsuholley
      @Fsuholley Před 3 lety +2

      Enjoy it. Excellent choice.

  • @siddigelshareef8633
    @siddigelshareef8633 Před 3 lety +33

    Conclusion: it’s more about who plays. This guy is an artist.

  • @hassetjimenez
    @hassetjimenez Před 3 lety +7

    Man! I just love when D-bingerz joins the videos! When you guys get together it's really fun to watch! Can't wait to see him freestyle w/o blindfold.. Greetings from Panama

  • @realgreyrecords6015
    @realgreyrecords6015 Před rokem +6

    Stellar playing ... seriously beautiful. Great vid. Thank you.

  • @tripplejman24
    @tripplejman24 Před 3 lety +4

    Bingerz is BACK!! Love the new editing style too; awesome job Jack

  • @karlfeast
    @karlfeast Před 3 lety +7

    ive just stummbled on this channel and i have defo subscribed it amazed me how well he played without seeing

  • @Elazarko
    @Elazarko Před 3 lety +12

    Was waiting for a video like this

  • @foreverseethe
    @foreverseethe Před 3 lety +8

    Funny editing! And thanks for the nice outro!

  • @soyfacucastro
    @soyfacucastro Před 3 lety +4

    Guys! Amazing video as Always! What about some of the new models of the Italian companies? I'm talking about the Crumar Seven and the Viscount Legend 70'. I believe that comparing the acoustic and electric pianos with some of the models of the other companies (Korg sv2- Nord electro- Montage etc.) could be interesting!!! Anyway, great video, Cheers from Argentina!

  • @onfire4Jesus2
    @onfire4Jesus2 Před 3 lety +18

    The red keyboard on his left has the best piano sound in my opinion. It has a nice rich tone.

    • @shawndoe6843
      @shawndoe6843 Před 2 lety

      @@antonykean6616 who cares about the price tag 🏷 it’s a beautiful piece of musical art f the price tag just buy it

  • @arlynwillett337
    @arlynwillett337 Před 2 lety

    Great comparison fellas!! Very Helpful

  • @dzee7936
    @dzee7936 Před rokem +1

    I'm looking to buy a new weighted keyboard and this was a great video to give me some insights since it's hard for me to get to a place that has all these to try out. I've been playing software via an older Roland synth and considered Keyscape, but have really been interested in the Nord line. Thanks for a great vid.

  • @HammyGirl999
    @HammyGirl999 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for the video. I would have loved more description about the keyboards amd a rank on multiple aspects:
    Quick responsiveness,
    Heavier vs lighter resistance,
    Vibration on hammer and release,
    Ivory vs plastic feel?
    Touch sensitivity?
    I hear his scores but not enough about why. 🤔

  • @66guidos
    @66guidos Před 3 lety +14

    Love that you can get the Casio, a laptop and some software for less than some of those keyboards. Still, it's nice to not have to boot up a computer and mess around with cables sometimes - worth the extra money, if you've got it.

  • @ewwitsantonio
    @ewwitsantonio Před 3 lety +11

    I did a blind listen and took some quick notes. There was a noticeable volume difference on the Nord (seemed quieter), and the Roland had a strange panning issue... seemed off to the R channel more than it should have been? Anyone else notice this, or is it just me?
    I don't have the best ears, just wanted to share.
    From my blind listen, I liked Keyscape the most, and Nord was close second but the quietness was hard for me to look past for some reason. Unfair, but I guess that's how the loudness war started, eh? haha
    Great video thanks for sharing this with us!

  • @zerksari
    @zerksari Před 3 lety +5

    Keep up the fire, I bought a CDP-S100 this January (thanks to your reviews) and love its compatibility and piano sound, complements my Kawai CA-99 on the beach. :)

  • @gdj6298
    @gdj6298 Před 3 lety +60

    But , realistically, you could use any of them on a gig and no-one, be it fellow band member, artiste that you are backing, sound man or audience member, will say "Blimey, that piano sounds like shite"

    • @eas26
      @eas26 Před 3 lety +2

      If this is your response to a 3-6 thousand dollar keyboard comparison, you have SERIOUSLY missed the point. You arent going to get a product that sounds like shite for that amount of coin, so splitting hairs is all there is to do.

    • @gdj6298
      @gdj6298 Před 3 lety

      @@eas26 Exactly.

  • @JoeLinux2000
    @JoeLinux2000 Před 3 lety +25

    Roland sounds terrible directly after the Nord. I play Pianoteq driven by a Casio PX-150. According to this video, it's a reasonably good choice. Glad you brought up the issue of weight. The contest is about who can make the best action that weighs the least and is easy to transport.

    • @kaisfp
      @kaisfp Před 4 měsíci

      I use the Casio PX-160 with Modern U, but I have Pianoteq (6) too, but I haven't used/installed it for sometime.
      Which piano model are you using from the Pianoteq?
      (Are you Updated it to Pianoteq 8?)
      Do you have a favorite piano model or preset that match really well with the Casio PX-150?
      Thank you for your help!

  • @Songwirer
    @Songwirer Před 3 lety +24

    Hey guys I love your vids, and the playing of the both of yus. I'd only mention that these machines have different purposes, Fantom's a workstation, Montage is a Synth beast, the Nord Stage is the ultimate nord stage piano, and the casio is not even a controller-only. Would make more sense to put the best controller for piano action with the Keyscape, the Yamaha CP88, and the best Roland stage piano. (Sorry Korg has no place here lol)

  • @jesuslovestoastyaya
    @jesuslovestoastyaya Před 3 lety +21

    Wow I liked Keyscape the best! Might have to get that VST eventually. Very impressed.

    • @foreverseethe
      @foreverseethe Před 3 lety +3

      Voted Number 1 VST piano sound on Gearslutz.com.

  • @Tibbon
    @Tibbon Před 3 lety +86

    So what I'm learning is that I probably need to get Keyscape...

    • @dare2win215
      @dare2win215 Před 9 měsíci +9

      The fact that you didn't have it is an embarrassment to your family name that better have been reconciled by this point. Lol

    • @andywooten622
      @andywooten622 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Keyscape and Ravenscroft are incredible. You just need the right weighted keyboard and you’ve got a dynamic setup🔥

    • @kaisfp
      @kaisfp Před 4 měsíci +2

      Which fully weighted keyboard would you recommend?
      (any brand, any model)
      Thank you for your help!
      (PS. Nowadays I am thinking of Roland FP-10 and StudioLogic SL88 Studio,
      because I've heard and read really good things about their action,
      and they are in the same price category,
      but I can't find a shop that has both to try them.)

    • @sharingmatters
      @sharingmatters Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@kaisfp I picked Casio cdp s110 because the action and sound was much nicer than with Roland fp 10 with very heavy action.

    • @kaisfp
      @kaisfp Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks! I was thinking about the Casio CDP-S350 or 360,
      because it seems one of the best bang for the buck Casio,
      but then I found the Casio PX-S1100. The PX-s3100 is too expensove for me, and I think I wouldn't use the majority pf its sounds and I don't need arranger function,
      so I thought maybe the PX-S1100 would be a better choice (for me at leqst),
      because all I really want is a nice fully weighted action with a nice piano sound.
      I think tje CDP piano sound is pretty nice too especially for its price, but I like the sound of the PX-s1100 waaay better.
      I really like somewhat darker piano sounds (I mean for example Yamaha or Roland sounds tend to be a little too bright to my taste, and I think the Caaio PX-S1100 has a nice darker (and more realistic) sound IMHO, which I really like. I guess I better just save up for the PX-S1100.
      (PS. Sorry, I just noticed this when I finished typing. This comment got a little longer then it should/could've been :))

  • @StandForSomethingGood
    @StandForSomethingGood Před 3 lety

    That was so awesome. Thanks guys.

  • @jpdj2715
    @jpdj2715 Před 2 lety +1

    Well, Daniel Bingham, that was very enjoyable playing. Excellent.

  • @jamesmcmahan1236
    @jamesmcmahan1236 Před 3 lety +10

    I think Jack tried to mention subtlety, but the Montage and Roland are different beasts from the Nord Grand. They both have piano centric models for comparable prices with action designed to feel like a grand piano. I mean I'm not faulting the comparison becuase now piano centric players will look at maybe a CP over a montage. More rounded players might prefer the compromise action of the Montage though

  • @cplaei1800
    @cplaei1800 Před 2 lety +14

    I got the Nord Grand and was only thinking about the Keyscape as an alternative. I am extremely picky and there is still a long way to go before a digital piano reach the moon in order to sound acoustic, but the nord has a great sound and fits my workflow even though i have to tweak it at times. Their grand samples are still lacking, but their Upright samples really has something real in them.

    • @dare2win215
      @dare2win215 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Many of Nord's pianos are licensed from Pianotekk, so they're basically cut down Kontakt libraries. My gripe is that they have too much ambiance & mid frequency. I've found a bit of a work around for most of the pianos. if you're interested, I'll share.

  • @dallasstiles118
    @dallasstiles118 Před 3 lety

    Always so much fun thanks guys

  • @stephaneenglish4661
    @stephaneenglish4661 Před 2 lety +19

    Fun review, which gave me a feel for which of these to test (shame there was no Kawaii or Korg, though). However, the test playing was over a very restricted range of the keyboard (no check for ring on of the high notes or resonance from the bass strings?) and didn’t test response to variations in velocity. How about another comparison, playing a more varied test piece?

  • @amanisax5630
    @amanisax5630 Před 3 lety +19

    Love these shootout vids. Well done! Thought maybe the Korg Sv2 would’ve been great in there:)

    • @AndertonsKeyboardDept
      @AndertonsKeyboardDept  Před 3 lety +7

      Thanks for tuning in, we're glad you are enjoying our new episodes! Would definitely be interesting to see how the Korg gets on within a shootout like this... Looks like a part 2 might be in order.

  • @daveymail
    @daveymail Před 2 lety

    Thank you! Extremely helpful

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM73 Před 3 lety +57

    Blind date format is hilarious.

  • @jasonlibs
    @jasonlibs Před 3 lety +3

    Great playing. Tasty. I’d love to see the Yamaha CP 88 comparison with a Nord Grand

  • @hINC
    @hINC Před 3 lety +3

    I really, really enjoy your reviews and comparisons very much. They're entertaining and honest and with these blindfold-series, even better. Blind A/B tests with loudness being normalized (you may use EBU-R128 lvele meters for equalizing the perceived loudness, there are free plugins out there) are the only serious tests in my opinion. Please keep us both entertained and informed with more videos :-) // That being said, I am not even a pianist or keyboard player :-D Still love your videos a lot.

  • @bdmax17
    @bdmax17 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey guys, I'm getting a Nord Stage 3 HA88 from you in a few weeks time and am definitely not counting down! Could you do some quick tips for the Stage 3 or some work flow tips? Loving the videos by the way :D 🎊🎊

  • @TheGilounet
    @TheGilounet Před 3 lety +3

    Nice Video: It's not Nord Grand Stage (korg Grandstage) but Nord Grand. Keyscape sounds so good. Nice work

  • @malanhemal6574
    @malanhemal6574 Před 2 lety +5

    from 7:14 to 7:22 Oh my .. I don't know how to decribe how I felt. It was a feeling I have never had, so moving. I just learned those chords after that.
    Bb > Bb/D > Bbadd9 > Gm > F > C/E > EbM7 > Ebm69 > Bbadd9/D
    Wohooo!
    Jack. I love your playing too. I watch your playing videos in youtube. If you make another video can you play these chords?
    Thank you!

  • @ndglamr
    @ndglamr Před 3 lety +2

    Great video as always!!

  • @LemonJelly360
    @LemonJelly360 Před 3 lety +3

    These comparison videos, although in fairness all of your videos, are just so watchable. Even for items I have no interest in purchasing, the entertainment value is second to none. If I get fired from my job for getting distracted, I am blaming you Mr Jack.

  • @scottc9944
    @scottc9944 Před 3 lety +3

    At 12:15 host asks player about software latency. I don't do Apple. I use PC. I use NI Akoustik Piano software. If one is experiencing latency on PC, download and install ASIO4ALL driver. Learn how to adjust the driver buffers down to failure, then raise them up just enough to stop the glitches. I have 10ms latency.

  • @jordanrazowskymusician8178

    Great review. Thanks

  • @dennisjett4322
    @dennisjett4322 Před 3 lety +8

    I just bought the Yamaha p125... I keep hearing it’s “a good entry” level piano

  • @KierDarby
    @KierDarby Před 3 lety +69

    Not sure it's reasonable to gauge the action of the Montage when it's visibly bouncing around on the top tier of a stand - the best key bed in the world is going to feel bad when it's supported so unstably.

    • @JustinDAMusic
      @JustinDAMusic Před rokem +1

      The keyboard bouncing around makes no difference to the feel of the keybed.

  • @johnmcshultz
    @johnmcshultz Před 2 lety +2

    great piano play and very interesting comparison

  • @phd_sound
    @phd_sound Před 3 lety +103

    Next do a Rhodes showdown!

    • @AndertonsKeyboardDept
      @AndertonsKeyboardDept  Před 3 lety +25

      Rhodes Blindfold Challenge... We will see what we can do!

    • @phd_sound
      @phd_sound Před 3 lety +5

      Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech Thanks, you guys are awesome👏

    • @justdandavies
      @justdandavies Před 3 lety

      Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech blind tests are the way forward for so many reasons

    • @diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102
      @diegohuijbregtsgarcia5102 Před 3 lety +2

      Everybody knows you end up using the Rhodes more anyway 😎

    • @RBLevin
      @RBLevin Před 3 lety

      Adding my vote for a Rhodes showdown, followed by a B3 showdown.

  • @schn3ur
    @schn3ur Před 3 lety +3

    Maybe do a shootout between stage pianos like the Yamaha CP88, Korg SV2, Nord Piano 4, etc. Also, the Roland Fantom 8 can get much better piano sounds if you mess around with it a bit. I'm not sure if you had the Super Natural piano tones downloaded on there or not, but they are much better than what the Fantom 8 comes with out of the box.

  • @HowardEllisonUKVoice
    @HowardEllisonUKVoice Před 11 měsíci

    Brilliant piece of work. Each still some way off from a real acoustic piano, I think! Might be handy to include one sometime, so we could 'calibrate' our expectations. Trying to find words for what I hear: these keyboards sound like an over-compressed FM radio broadcast of an acoustic, though some of that might be down to CZcams.
    Maybe also try a classical riff? Chopin, Mozart? Such a different texture from jazz.

  • @dberrimi9
    @dberrimi9 Před rokem +4

    The Nord sounds nice but it sounds more like an EP to my ears, not a bright concert grand. I like this format of comparison. Please consider doing another one of these blind tests and include the Kurzweil K2700 against other similarly priced models ($3k) from Yamaha, Nord, Roland.

  • @ianflurrance8438
    @ianflurrance8438 Před 3 lety +8

    Get the korg Sv2 in this action for your next one! Would love to see it on a Rhodes shoot out.

  • @shilakes
    @shilakes Před 3 lety +9

    Ended up getting the Nord for myself. This video had no small part in that decision. Thank you! I couldn't be happier.

    • @pianotnt
      @pianotnt Před 11 měsíci

      I want a nord or roland damn shame my sister passed and with the money she left I can afford one

    • @sharingmatters
      @sharingmatters Před 4 měsíci +2

      I love the Nord's design too.

  • @jefftaylor5884
    @jefftaylor5884 Před 3 lety

    Try the Ravenscroft 275 Sample on UVI. I have used it on recordings and live. Closest to a real piano for me. So dynamic. It is a very personal thing though. Great video. Thanks.

  • @trinidadvelasquez1898
    @trinidadvelasquez1898 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely beautiful playing.

  • @jeronimojunqueira5431
    @jeronimojunqueira5431 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. Please share how you connect the casio and record the sound. What audio interface? Mixer?

  • @defan2105
    @defan2105 Před 3 lety +3

    I was blind, but now I see...that this was wonderful to watch!

  • @trainliker100
    @trainliker100 Před 3 lety +9

    I remember back when I was an electronics technician and then an engineer that regular folks assumed I could tell them the best "Hi Fi" and then "Stereo" equipment to get. Especially speakers. People would listen to speakers in the listening room of one store. And then drive across town and listen to some in another store. It is VERY hard to compare unless they are side by side, such as these pianos. That also suggests that if the piano test had them located in different places with drive time to get there, it might be harder to judge. The other thing I suggested was they buy the cheapest speakers they liked the sound of. Some people like big boomy bass lousy frequency response speakers. Tastes vary with pianos, too. Of course, a professional pianist (and my mother was a professional concert pianist) is going to have a better ear for such things. She didn't live long enoughto see the state of the art that exists today, but was adamant they "would never equal a real piano". Of course, you should never say never, or always. And here we sit with most of us with crummy little speakers that came with out Dell setup or whatever which probably doesn't translate the real sound all that well.

    • @derbar7051
      @derbar7051 Před 8 měsíci

      I can attest to your mother that a real accoustic will never be beaten against electronic keyboard. Some elements of music will never fade despite the test of time -- I'm a professional pianist.

    • @trainliker100
      @trainliker100 Před 8 měsíci

      @@derbar7051 Maybe. But I've been involved in "high tech" for years and one thing I have always avoided saying is "never." We might not only get to the point where in a "blind taste test" so to speak, even experts might not be able to tell the difference. If I create a waveform identical to that of a certain piano and have a sophisticated enough speaker system to "handle DC to Daylight", I suspect it is only a matter of time. And there can also be choices to select piano brands, model, period of manufacturer. voicing desired, and so forth. I know that two consecutive pianos off the line won't even sound exactly the same, but whatever the variables are, they can probably be identified and simulated.

    • @derbar7051
      @derbar7051 Před 8 měsíci

      @@trainliker100 I don't disagree with you based on the science behind your logic but I do think that science cannot replicate human nature. The sense of touch and the sound world that a electric keyboard pales in comparison compared to accoustic (good that is) pianos. It doesn't help that I have perfect pitch and a true love for the art form so I am biased. Maybe I am wrong and that you're right in that there will be no distinction between both mediums, but I am sceptical.

  • @PeyCa
    @PeyCa Před 3 lety +4

    Great video, guys! Keyscape has the best sample overall, but I don't know what keyboard should I get when it comes to key action. Yamaha is definitely not in consideration, lol.

  • @FlowJunkee65
    @FlowJunkee65 Před 2 lety +11

    Jack, I'm a little surprised that you didn't include a Korg Kronos 2 88 in this comparison. It has some gorgeous acoustic grand pianos in its library. ... Ha! Such a comparison of yours just popped up! Going there again now to see what Dan says!

    • @dp9324
      @dp9324 Před 9 měsíci

      Korg is hot garbage buddy, sorry.

  • @TheTMontgomery
    @TheTMontgomery Před 3 lety +1

    Update with a Kurzweil,a Korg and a Yamaha CP88 against your winner and a higher spec Casio or other controller with the software
    Great concept and execution for a blindfold test
    Perhaps get a very standardized scoring sheet based on the questions asked and comments made in the chat.

  • @playonkorg
    @playonkorg Před 3 lety +1

    I work in a musical instrument shop (sell piano's) and work in a soundstudio a.s. engeneer and synth/sample and jazz piano player. I have choice enough to choice and took a Casio. I had no experiance with that brand in my 50 years selling/playing/recording. I'm use fan of yamaha/Roland/Nord but this Casio sounding/playing so great, easely put in the mix

  • @davidchampclos2473
    @davidchampclos2473 Před 3 lety +2

    Very interesting.
    Everybody should do this, for all instrument before buying.

  • @erkiandresnuut
    @erkiandresnuut Před rokem +5

    You could have asked him if he could guess any of these keyboards (at least the maker) before removing the blindfold. I haven't done a blind test myself, but different keyboard makers sure have their feel and sound signature of some sort.
    BTW, I am a big fan of Nord's piano sounds, but I recently got to play a Yamaha CP4 that has the best piano *feel* of all the ones I've tried. That's just for the piano sound though.

  • @Mrphilharmonic
    @Mrphilharmonic Před 2 lety

    I do like some of the chords you use Dan. I'd like to hear a classical context as well.

  • @dougmarkham8576
    @dougmarkham8576 Před 3 lety +31

    OK, so this is the comparison I'd like to see:
    Kawai MP11SE
    Nord Grand
    Yamaha P515
    Korg Grandstage
    Dexibel Vivo S9 pro
    Garritan CFX
    VSL Vienna Imperial
    Keyscape
    Pianoteq various.
    Kurzweil Forte
    Ravenscroft 275
    Acoustic Samples Kawai EX pro
    Synthology Ivory II Grand pianos
    Roland v piano
    Roland Rd2000.
    Physis H1
    Crumar 7
    Those would basically cover all of the best stage pianos and vst gear available and would make a truly unique video one off.

    • @luigipolitodabundo8472
      @luigipolitodabundo8472 Před 3 lety

      Garritan wins

    • @VoxTone2009
      @VoxTone2009 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, action on the Kawai MP11SE is a step up from the one in the Nord. Although a bit heavier. A friend of mine just got a new upright Kawai digital keyboard/piano with even better action and sound than the MP11SE, but you don't want to move it around unnecessary. Can't remember the model though.

    • @mr.c1989
      @mr.c1989 Před 3 lety

      @@VoxTone2009 - for your friend's Kawai upright , I can only assume it might be the CA78 (Grand Feel 2 keybed) or the CA79 (Grand Feel 3 keybed). There are higher models but the differences are negligible for the price that you have to contend with.

    • @VoxTone2009
      @VoxTone2009 Před 3 lety

      @@mr.c1989 He said it was the best digital piano Kawai offered. He worked temporary on the side of his regular work at a large music store chain (as a music teacher) that sells very high end concert acoustic pianos (some well over $100K). They carry all the top of the line Kawai pianos (digital and acoustic) along with Steinway and a number of other brands.

    • @VoxTone2009
      @VoxTone2009 Před 3 lety

      I can't unfortunately go and check it out until the pandemic resides.

  • @mickandrews9458
    @mickandrews9458 Před 2 lety

    Good to hear the comments on the Fantom 8 key bed. I am not going mad; I had one and did not like it. I found it was not responsive enough to allow quick playing. I would have an acoustic any day.

  • @randszzob8590
    @randszzob8590 Před 3 lety +58

    Please get three Nords, two of them connected to software, and THEN do a blind test. Fun!

    • @AndertonsKeyboardDept
      @AndertonsKeyboardDept  Před 3 lety +9

      That's a great idea... We will see what we can do!

    • @spyrom3672
      @spyrom3672 Před 3 lety +2

      1000% this. Triple pedal will always give it away won't it :) Love your work Jack and team.

    • @francismascaren
      @francismascaren Před 3 lety +1

      @@AndertonsKeyboardDept o. Vbloo up

    • @johnnulf624
      @johnnulf624 Před 3 lety

      Rands Zzob yesss. Maybe throw Ravenscroft in the mix.

    • @randszzob8590
      @randszzob8590 Před 3 lety +1

      @@johnnulf624 Actually (just about) my favorite piano. Spooky!

  • @kstevens0915
    @kstevens0915 Před 3 lety +6

    Dan is an amazing keyboardist!! Need more videos of him playing!!

  • @neilloughran4437
    @neilloughran4437 Před 3 lety +3

    Beautiful piano playing around 8.50 to 9.10. Been working out some of those ideas and they are new to me at least... suspended chords mainly..

    • @neilloughran4437
      @neilloughran4437 Před 3 lety +2

      For those interested here is my guess at some of the chords used.
      LH - RH
      D Bb C - F Bb C F
      D A C - F G C F (put thumb across F&G notes)
      ...
      Ab Eb - G Bb C F
      Gb Db - Bb C F
      Db Ab - F Bb C F

    • @Fsuholley
      @Fsuholley Před 3 lety +1

      You are so right.

  • @IRuinEvrything
    @IRuinEvrything Před 3 lety +5

    idefc about the pianos that much. this gentleman's chords are hypnotic. ridiculous hands, man.

  • @BrunoMartinho
    @BrunoMartinho Před 3 lety +5

    I just got a Casio CDP S100, and now with this video i feel more confident i will like it :D

    • @anbalkeen
      @anbalkeen Před rokem

      but the sound of Casio s100 in this video is not its sound, Casio s100 keyboard is used being a controller, the sound is VST Keyscape

    • @BrunoMartinho
      @BrunoMartinho Před rokem

      @@anbalkeen I didn't say I liked it because of the sound, I know it's a VST, I have keyscape

    • @anbalkeen
      @anbalkeen Před rokem

      @@BrunoMartinho yeah 👍

  • @216trixie
    @216trixie Před rokem +4

    I love this. He felt like he was back on a real piano at the Casio. I just bought a Casio and it is wonderful.

  • @paulmapp8306
    @paulmapp8306 Před 3 lety +8

    For pianos alone, I think that was spot on really. I do personally like the roland V-Pianos sounds ... but once tuned to the individual players touch (the stock patches arnt great). not really sure why you chose the Fantom though - as the RD2000 has the same keybed and same sound engine, and is more a pure piano (OK it has lots of other stuff too - BUT its not a VA synth, sequencer etc that the Fantom is). While the outcome would be the same - the price difference between the Fantom and RD DOES make a difference - as does the price of the Nord V the RD (quite a bit) - and indeed the soundscape version. Have to say the Grand stage is the only Nord piano Id play - its the only one with a decent keybed, and it misses out on a lot other stage pianos can do (the RD as mentioned, Yamahas dedicated pianos etc) - but as JUST a piano - its probably the top choice right now (bar POSSIBLY a Kawai MP7/11)

    • @jpdj2715
      @jpdj2715 Před 2 lety

      As they are in a parallel not competing universe, I feel I can point here to the YT channel of Merriam Music where pianist Stu Harrison reviews pianos. I'd say more as a musician than as a salesman. He did in-depth reviews of virtual instruments about half a year ago, comparing Keyscape to others. I think that the Kawai MP11SE now has the best action of the 88-key boards that look like a stage piano (but may be too heavy). Maybe Kawai should update their VPC-1 with these same keys and it facilitating the MP11SE's 3-pedal unit (with optical innards, instead of common potentiometers). I feel, though, they should also do a version of the VPC-1 with a real real grand piano action in it, like they put into one of their Novus machines. No, that will not become light enough for a single person transport to gigs either.

    • @musicaldracula2017
      @musicaldracula2017 Před 2 lety

      RD2000 is not identical with Fantom. RD would score better than Fantom but in this comparison, the winner somehow would have been the same, i.e. Nord...

    • @paulmapp8306
      @paulmapp8306 Před 2 lety

      @@musicaldracula2017 actually, pianist on both boards are identical. Thete are some more edit features for eps on the rd but that's it.

  • @arbogast4950
    @arbogast4950 Před 3 lety +2

    I've been eyeing the Fantom but I'll just stick with NI Komplete for my piano sounds.

  • @silgrimmarak8699
    @silgrimmarak8699 Před 3 lety +2

    Roland fantom and Yamaha montage are workstation, not really meant for pianos, but both of them made different version for digital piano, meant for playing pianos. You should have compare them.

  • @popfof1490
    @popfof1490 Před 3 lety +3

    KAWAI MP11SE didn't have the amplifier, but speaking of the sound quality, it's the one, especially the treble part.

  • @DojoOfCool
    @DojoOfCool Před 3 lety

    Need a workstation comparison Fantom, Kronos, Montage. Maybe talk about who the typical workstation buyer is live performer, composer, sound design, ???

  • @MrBatraaf
    @MrBatraaf Před 3 lety +8

    I really dig the product demos that you do. However, I need to piss some vinegar and say that the playing is rather límited to cocktail/ ballad piano that is heavy on the pedal. Very beautiful without a doubt, but personally I would be more interested in hearing some ragtime and boogie without so much pedal, as well as some ckassical tunes.

  • @pneptun
    @pneptun Před 3 lety +1

    also - would be nice to know which presets were selected for each keyboard. (especially - did you load the Bosendorfer in the montage? cause you kinda have to :-D

  • @JoseVGavila
    @JoseVGavila Před 3 lety +6

    I have a Kawai VPC1 (which has a similar action to the Nord Grand Stage, I think) and that, along some nice VSTs, as Pianoteq, Ivory II, UVI, NI and such is, for me, the real deal!. Nothing comes close on versatility. Of course, is not so good for moving it, but in my case, as an studio setup, is just great

    • @guinhomusico9504
      @guinhomusico9504 Před 3 lety +1

      Nord Grand action is similar to the Kawai MP7SE. Kawai VPC1 is more close to the Kawai MP11SE.

    • @JoseVGavila
      @JoseVGavila Před 3 lety

      @@guinhomusico9504 OK, I guess even a better action then 👍

    • @tuneunleashed
      @tuneunleashed Před 3 lety

      They’re all Trash

  • @lordbachus
    @lordbachus Před 3 lety +5

    If you want competition for the Nord, get a kawai MP11 into your testing..

  • @aurenviljoen9455
    @aurenviljoen9455 Před 3 lety +15

    Kawai MP series is definitely among the top 3 as kawai are piano builders and use really good acoustic modelling to build thier piano sampling database. Its also done using thier shigeru kawai range of pianos for thier sampling of piano sounds

  • @MrEMann
    @MrEMann Před 2 lety +1

    The Roland and Yamaha are synthesizers (obviously) so they put the weight into those sounds more than trying to be a "piano" nice review all around and fantastic playing!

    • @lpon9757
      @lpon9757 Před 2 lety +2

      Easier to put in your car than a grand piano + a string section + a dozen of Rhodes as well ha ha ha

  • @johndavidpeer3107
    @johndavidpeer3107 Před 3 lety +5

    The inadvertent patch change was a dead give-a-way, lol...
    It's a real pita.
    But such as awesome instrument.

  • @robertw.5993
    @robertw.5993 Před 3 lety +4

    Does the pianist have any CZcams tutorials? Killer playing.

  • @marktreffel
    @marktreffel Před 3 lety +2

    Keyscape is amazing. If you use it with a great controller keyboard it’ll be as good as the Nord. I strangely got a V-piano cheap but never liked the sound, but the keyboard feel is very special when controlling keyscape or the UVI model D, and for Rhodes, the Gospel musicians Neo Soul keys.

    • @floridaessene
      @floridaessene Před 2 lety

      I played a V-Piano once on a music shop, and was amazed by the action. Have you tried the Kawai VPC1 controller? Some people say its has the best action of all the digital keyboards.

  • @plrooks
    @plrooks Před rokem +1

    Salad fingers.... Haha great random reference!! :)

  • @AntonyBailey77
    @AntonyBailey77 Před 3 lety +2

    Bob James vibes there for D B today. Nice.

  • @enigmasounds
    @enigmasounds Před 3 lety +1

    Yes... he picked my fav...from sound anyway!

  • @AFmultimedia
    @AFmultimedia Před 3 lety +5

    The strange is that you compared those keyboards, mixing synths with digital pianos... I would expected comparing Nord PIano with Roland RD 2000 with Yamaha CP 88 and the Casio + Keyscape, probably adding also the Korg SV2 88...

  • @MrIanji
    @MrIanji Před 3 lety +2

    I play guitar only but love this channel

  • @snakedike
    @snakedike Před 3 lety +7

    Piano sound is so scrutinized but honestly not so important in keyboard selection. The quality of the sound is about the sample. The feel of the key bed, the construction quality, and the usability of the software and controls are more important to me. I'll buy the sample I like best.

    • @runawayfriend3632
      @runawayfriend3632 Před rokem

      agree with you... feeling is very important... it makes a huge diference

  • @dpajc056
    @dpajc056 Před rokem +1

    CDP S100 works as a controller!?! 👏🤝 keyscape here I come

  • @JasondePlater
    @JasondePlater Před 3 lety +22

    Dan definitely knows and likes a Nord Sound when he hears it. After all for a pro musician, it’s all about what you hear and feel, not what you see.

  • @gavrielmuellejans4345
    @gavrielmuellejans4345 Před 3 lety +6

    Nord Grand vs Yamaha CP88 s’il vous plait! 🙏🤘

  • @reltius2993
    @reltius2993 Před 2 lety +6

    Wonder what the chances of Nord making a workstation like the Fantom is someday with the Grand sound/action

  • @harrisonmyers1572
    @harrisonmyers1572 Před 3 lety +4

    I really loved the sound of the Roland Fantom 88.

  • @adidarmawan
    @adidarmawan Před 2 lety +3

    Based on this scoring, I may already know the answer-BUT, in terms of how the keybed feels, have you guys ever reviewed/thrown in a Kawai MP11SE into the comparison mix...?

  • @apreviousseagle836
    @apreviousseagle836 Před 2 lety +5

    I honestly liked that Roland sample the best. The Montage Sample is identical to the one on the Tyros 4.

  • @StandForSomethingGood
    @StandForSomethingGood Před 3 lety +2

    So - Jack - I like the feel of the Roland keys but love the sound of the Nord and Yamaha grand above the Roland grands. Can I just use Keyscape on the Roland so I have best of both worlds? I'm really looking for the right configuration.

  • @kawaneycunningham1000
    @kawaneycunningham1000 Před 3 lety +8

    I own the new roland fantom and personally this keyboard is not the best to use as a lead piano rather I think it's better for aux (use it as a top keyboard for fillings) nord is what I'm looking for now.

    • @shadowbanned5164
      @shadowbanned5164 Před 2 lety

      Why not go for the Casio keybed in this video and simply midi it into the Roland when you want a piano feel thats one hell of a keyboard you have there my friend.

  • @gracepierce1024
    @gracepierce1024 Před rokem +3

    this is so interesting. so, i own that cheaper casio. it was the first one i bought. then i bought some others that cost a lot more. i also have an actual piano i was given. for me, i use a daw, studio one 5 pro, and i have tons of vst's. for me i shoot for the physical feel since most the time they are going to sound the same as i use sounds outside the device itself mostly. the irony of watching this and videos of shootouts between keyboards is how some people say they love the feel of one, and dont care for another, and then ill run across someone else who loves the other and dislikes the other. i use to think only guitarists ran into that issue where some swear by a strat while others cant stand them. for myself i HATE the casios feel lmao. yet he thought it was great. after all my research ive found its better just to go play on one yourself before buying it, and never listen to anyone else. it goes far deeper into personal opinion that i realized it would when it comes to piano, especially digital. edited for typos. =)