I installed these on my wife’s Jeep. These are great looking lights for sure. BUT, ONE THING…. These are only held in by the 3 screws that attach the main bracket to the actual taillight. The screws used are tiny and have very little grip. Just compare the OEM light bracket screws to the FORM light bracket screws. I upgraded my bracket screws for the FORM lights to #8 x ½” Pan Philips. I feel they are much more secure now. 👌🏼
I installed these today on my 2020 JL without the sequential lighting. It was super easy with a flashlight and a 10mm socket, taking maybe 20 minutes end to end. Helpful notes - the plug has a way to clip it to the body of the light. Pay attention to how it is clipped before you unplug the old light. Then you can re-attach so the plug is not just dangling by the cables. Also worth repeating to take special care with the plastic screw. Pay attention to how tight it is when you first start to unscrew it, so you know how much to tighten it. And, the screw is easy to finger tighten at first to make sure you are not cross threading it. it should screw in easily for the first couple of rotations. Lights look great, way brighter than OEM with a modern look without too much "bling". Exactly what I was looking for.
I wanted to wait a few weeks to do an update on my replacement Form Tail Light… First of all, the customer services communication was outstanding!!! BIG PROPS TO THEM Form Lighting made the issue of getting a replacement drivers side tail light very easy and seamless….I didn’t even need to send back the defective tail light. If you ever have problems with their lighting AND you’re within the warranty window, do not hesitate to call the customer service number. AND NOW THE ISSUSE The replacement worked great for a few days to a week and stopped working with the same problems that I had before …..drivers tail light not working but everything else working as they should (brake light & sequential turn). Again, I unplugged the light and plugged it back in…..I checked the fuses….even double checked the wire tap into the turn signal. Nothing seemed out of place. I just ran with it. The drivers tail light worked when it wanted to. I started thinking about any variables that could be in play. The only thing I thought of was the cold weather. I noticed that during cold temperatures the light would not work properly. I would say anything below 50 degrees F is when trouble starts for me. Anything above 50 doesn’t affect the light. I could try to troubleshoot electrical with any technical department Form Lighting might have, but I’m not savvy enough on a JL to do it. I love the look of the light when everything functions, but I’m out of the warranty window. I might go back to my factory halogens, buy another brand of LED tail lights, or move to a warmer climate LOL.
Hey there! We appreciate the honest review. Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. This is not an issue we are used to seeing with our Jeep Tails. We do carry a two-year warranty so if you are still experiencing issues with the new product we are happy to help get you a new set to help resolve this!
@@formlighting thank you for reminding me of the warranty. It's just weird that the replacement is having the same issue as the original, and that makes me hesitant to get a 2nd replacement because I still might experience the same issue.
This sounds like it may be a vehicle issue. I would recommend communicating this to our service team to help trouble shoot it before getting a full replacement since it has happened with multiple products now. @@dirtyagent22
* Update * - installed these without the sequential turn signal wired in and they are amazing. the only thing i did not like and the WARNING i will give other people is the lights have metal threads for your plastic screw to secure the light to the body. THIS WILL WRECK YOUR PLASTIC SCREW!!! i removed the bracket for the screw to thread into and replaced it with the factory bracket that has the correct plastic threads and the rest of the install is easy. Original - cant wait to purchase these and love the fact that the turn signals will work without the squential portion wired up. those splice clips are nothing but a corrosion magnet and ill be researching a way to connect the sequential feature without splicing wires
Thanks for checking them out! There are alternative options out there, but most people generally do not have the means to do it themselves. If you need any suggestions, our service team would be happy to help!
@@tmacc9110 In this case, we would recommend reusing the factory bracket from your stock tail lights, similar to the customer above. If you need any further help, please go ahead and give us a call at 636-748-4444 Monday-Friday 10 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that!
Installed on my 2021 Willys and they work great for about 10 minutes. Once they've been on a while, they only light up when I hit the brakes or when I use a turn signal...other than that it looks like they are off from the rear so I cannot drive at night now???
Sorry to hear you are having trouble! Please contact our customer service team and they will gladly help resolve this issue! Hours: Monday-Friday 10 a.m. - 5 p.m. Email: contact@formlights.com Phone: 636-748-4444
Bought these in August but didn't install until October. I couldn't be happier with them!......until this past weekend when the tail light (when you just turn the lights on) portion on the driver's side quit working. The light illuminates when the brake is pressed, and the sequential turn works as expected. I noticed that after the jeep had been sitting for a few hours, the light works, but for a very short period of time (5 mins). Is it possible to get a replacement since I just installed them back in October?
Hey there! Sorry to hear you are having some trouble! This is certainly something we can do, but you will have to contact our customer service team to do so! I will link their info below and they will be happy to help work out a solution. Hours: Monday-Friday 10 a.m. - 5 p.m. Email: contact@formlights.com Phone: 636-748-4444
I just bought the taillight but for some reason I could not get the turn signal to work ? I’ve already used the yellow wires but i don’t know why is not working 😕
I bought a pair for my 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4D, but my factory lights are halogen. Is there going to be an issue since the pair of FORM Lights I bought did not come with resistors?
There shouldn't be any issues but if you do experience any sort of trouble please contact our excellent customer service team. They will gladly help you resolve any issues should they arise! Hours: Monday-Friday 10 a.m. - 5 p.m. Email: contact@formlights.com Phone: 636-748-4444
Having an issue after installing these lights on my 2023 Willy's Wrangler. Everything works perfect except for the sequential turn signals don't work at all. Is there anything I might be missing or need to do to get these to work? Is a tazer needed for these?? Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!!
Hey there! Sorry to hear you're having issues! Please send an email to our customer service department at contact@formlights.com, with a detailed description of your issue, and they would be happy to help!
Unfortunately, on USDM spec jeeps there is no way to separate the turn signal from the brake signal on the connector coming from the vehicle. Running the separate wire to the front of the vehicle is the only way to add this feature.
When you say repeat the same process on the passenger side, does that mean you need to run another yellow wire to the front drl? If so would it be easier to route both at the same time through the same pathing?
Hey there! Because you need each turn signal individually, you will need to run the yellow wire from the tail light up to the other front fender - you are correct. The included wire is only long enough to be ran on its dedicated side as to avoid any possible issues due to being too long, so you'll need to run each side separately. Let us know if you have any other questions!
Hey there! You should have received that harness. Please go ahead and give us a call at 636-748-4444 Monday-Friday 10 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that.
@3:15 this is no longer applicable to the 2023 model. There are no cavity plugs and pushing the wire through the harness is impossible. I really didn't want to give up, but I felt like I was going to damage the factory harness if I tried pushing any harder.
Hey there! That isn't an issue our team is familiar with, but would love your feedback on. Please go ahead and shoot us an email with some photos of what you are seeing at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that. Thanks!
@@BenFoerster Hey there! That isn't an issue our team is familiar with, but would love your feedback on. Please go ahead and shoot us an email with some photos of what you are seeing at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that. Thanks!
You will need to tap each turn signal wire to the turn signal on the front of the vehicle. Unfortunately, there is no way to separate turn/brake signal on these Jeeps coming from the tail light connector. However, the entire lamp will still flash as a turn signal, similar to the factory lamp, for road compliance.
@@2yung2dygaming59 In our testing, we discovered tapping to the 7-pin tow harness would engage the sequential feature anytime the brakes were tapped. We don't have any confirmation on the mirror signals at this time, unfortunately. Sorry about that! If you have any other questions, just let us know!
@@formlighting thank you for the replies. Could you give me a little better idea of where the harness is up front? The video isn’t super clear. Thanks!!
@@2yung2dygaming59 Sure thing! You'll be looking for the white and green wire coming from the harness connected to the fender light. Once you've peeled back the front fender liner, it'll reveal itself more easily! It may also be beneficial to disconnect this harness, which we did not do for this video.
I installed these on my wife’s Jeep. These are great looking lights for sure. BUT, ONE THING….
These are only held in by the 3 screws that attach the main bracket to the actual taillight. The screws used are tiny and have very little grip. Just compare the OEM light bracket screws to the FORM light bracket screws. I upgraded my bracket screws for the FORM lights to #8 x ½” Pan Philips. I feel they are much more secure now. 👌🏼
Thanks for the feedback! We are happy to hear you're liking them!
I installed these today on my 2020 JL without the sequential lighting. It was super easy with a flashlight and a 10mm socket, taking maybe 20 minutes end to end.
Helpful notes - the plug has a way to clip it to the body of the light. Pay attention to how it is clipped before you unplug the old light. Then you can re-attach so the plug is not just dangling by the cables. Also worth repeating to take special care with the plastic screw. Pay attention to how tight it is when you first start to unscrew it, so you know how much to tighten it. And, the screw is easy to finger tighten at first to make sure you are not cross threading it. it should screw in easily for the first couple of rotations.
Lights look great, way brighter than OEM with a modern look without too much "bling". Exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks a ton! We appreciate the honest review and are grateful for the support! Glad you like the lights as well!
I wanted to wait a few weeks to do an update on my replacement Form Tail Light…
First of all, the customer services communication was outstanding!!! BIG PROPS TO THEM
Form Lighting made the issue of getting a replacement drivers side tail light very easy and seamless….I didn’t even need to send back the defective tail light. If you ever have problems with their lighting AND you’re within the warranty window, do not hesitate to call the customer service number.
AND NOW THE ISSUSE
The replacement worked great for a few days to a week and stopped working with the same problems that I had before …..drivers tail light not working but everything else working as they should (brake light & sequential turn). Again, I unplugged the light and plugged it back in…..I checked the fuses….even double checked the wire tap into the turn signal. Nothing seemed out of place. I just ran with it. The drivers tail light worked when it wanted to.
I started thinking about any variables that could be in play. The only thing I thought of was the cold weather.
I noticed that during cold temperatures the light would not work properly. I would say anything below 50 degrees F is when trouble starts for me. Anything above 50 doesn’t affect the light.
I could try to troubleshoot electrical with any technical department Form Lighting might have, but I’m not savvy enough on a JL to do it.
I love the look of the light when everything functions, but I’m out of the warranty window. I might go back to my factory halogens, buy another brand of LED tail lights, or move to a warmer climate LOL.
Hey there! We appreciate the honest review. Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. This is not an issue we are used to seeing with our Jeep Tails. We do carry a two-year warranty so if you are still experiencing issues with the new product we are happy to help get you a new set to help resolve this!
@@formlighting thank you for reminding me of the warranty. It's just weird that the replacement is having the same issue as the original, and that makes me hesitant to get a 2nd replacement because I still might experience the same issue.
This sounds like it may be a vehicle issue. I would recommend communicating this to our service team to help trouble shoot it before getting a full replacement since it has happened with multiple products now. @@dirtyagent22
* Update * - installed these without the sequential turn signal wired in and they are amazing. the only thing i did not like and the WARNING i will give other people is the lights have metal threads for your plastic screw to secure the light to the body. THIS WILL WRECK YOUR PLASTIC SCREW!!! i removed the bracket for the screw to thread into and replaced it with the factory bracket that has the correct plastic threads and the rest of the install is easy.
Original - cant wait to purchase these and love the fact that the turn signals will work without the squential portion wired up. those splice clips are nothing but a corrosion magnet and ill be researching a way to connect the sequential feature without splicing wires
Thanks for checking them out! There are alternative options out there, but most people generally do not have the means to do it themselves. If you need any suggestions, our service team would be happy to help!
I could not get that plastic screw to bite on the bracket! Was this easy to switch? I’m about to return them
@@tmacc9110 In this case, we would recommend reusing the factory bracket from your stock tail lights, similar to the customer above. If you need any further help, please go ahead and give us a call at 636-748-4444 Monday-Friday 10 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that!
Is the startup sequence only for remote starting or should it work when starting vehicle like regular?
Hey there! Anytime the running lights turn on the sequence will start.
Installed on my 2021 Willys and they work great for about 10 minutes. Once they've been on a while, they only light up when I hit the brakes or when I use a turn signal...other than that it looks like they are off from the rear so I cannot drive at night now???
Sorry to hear you are having trouble! Please contact our customer service team and they will gladly help resolve this issue!
Hours: Monday-Friday 10 a.m. - 5 p.m.
Email: contact@formlights.com
Phone: 636-748-4444
Bought these in August but didn't install until October. I couldn't be happier with them!......until this past weekend when the tail light (when you just turn the lights on) portion on the driver's side quit working. The light illuminates when the brake is pressed, and the sequential turn works as expected. I noticed that after the jeep had been sitting for a few hours, the light works, but for a very short period of time (5 mins). Is it possible to get a replacement since I just installed them back in October?
Hey there! Sorry to hear you are having some trouble! This is certainly something we can do, but you will have to contact our customer service team to do so! I will link their info below and they will be happy to help work out a solution.
Hours: Monday-Friday 10 a.m. - 5 p.m.
Email: contact@formlights.com
Phone: 636-748-4444
I just bought the taillight but for some reason I could not get the turn signal to work ? I’ve already used the yellow wires but i don’t know why is not working 😕
Hey there! Sorry to hear you are having trouble!
Have you run the tap all the way to the front of the vehicle?
I bought a pair for my 2021 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4D, but my factory lights are halogen. Is there going to be an issue since the pair of FORM Lights I bought did not come with resistors?
There shouldn't be any issues but if you do experience any sort of trouble please contact our excellent customer service team. They will gladly help you resolve any issues should they arise!
Hours: Monday-Friday 10 a.m. - 5 p.m.
Email: contact@formlights.com
Phone: 636-748-4444
Having an issue after installing these lights on my 2023 Willy's Wrangler. Everything works perfect except for the sequential turn signals don't work at all. Is there anything I might be missing or need to do to get these to work? Is a tazer needed for these?? Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!!
Hey there! Sorry to hear you're having issues! Please send an email to our customer service department at contact@formlights.com, with a detailed description of your issue, and they would be happy to help!
Nice light but to much work just for the amber lights,maybe make it more plug and play?
Unfortunately, on USDM spec jeeps there is no way to separate the turn signal from the brake signal on the connector coming from the vehicle. Running the separate wire to the front of the vehicle is the only way to add this feature.
Do I need to lay wires to the front of the car if I have a jeep wrangler jl euro version?
Unfortunately, we are only able to confirm the fitment on USDM models.
When you say repeat the same process on the passenger side, does that mean you need to run another yellow wire to the front drl? If so would it be easier to route both at the same time through the same pathing?
Hey there! Because you need each turn signal individually, you will need to run the yellow wire from the tail light up to the other front fender - you are correct. The included wire is only long enough to be ran on its dedicated side as to avoid any possible issues due to being too long, so you'll need to run each side separately. Let us know if you have any other questions!
@@formlighting thanks for the response! I just ordered a set in the red lens and can't wait to install them!
@@z0mbiE_ Awesome, great to hear it!
I didn’t get my wiring for my sequential turn signals. Can I get that sent to me or do you have to buy it separately?
Hey there! You should have received that harness. Please go ahead and give us a call at 636-748-4444 Monday-Friday 10 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that.
@3:15 this is no longer applicable to the 2023 model. There are no cavity plugs and pushing the wire through the harness is impossible. I really didn't want to give up, but I felt like I was going to damage the factory harness if I tried pushing any harder.
Hey there! That isn't an issue our team is familiar with, but would love your feedback on. Please go ahead and shoot us an email with some photos of what you are seeing at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that. Thanks!
Seconding this; there are no cavity plugs on my 23 JL and the factory pin configuration is completely different from the one shown here.
The 3rd hole on both rows is open so I don’t know which one to put it in.
@@BenFoerster Hey there! That isn't an issue our team is familiar with, but would love your feedback on. Please go ahead and shoot us an email with some photos of what you are seeing at contact@formlights.com, and our service team would be happy to help you with that. Thanks!
Where exactly do you tap the sequential signals to?
You will need to tap each turn signal wire to the turn signal on the front of the vehicle. Unfortunately, there is no way to separate turn/brake signal on these Jeeps coming from the tail light connector. However, the entire lamp will still flash as a turn signal, similar to the factory lamp, for road compliance.
@@formlighting does it have to be the turn signal at the front of the vehicle or can it be wired into my tow harness or mirror turn signals?
@@2yung2dygaming59 In our testing, we discovered tapping to the 7-pin tow harness would engage the sequential feature anytime the brakes were tapped. We don't have any confirmation on the mirror signals at this time, unfortunately. Sorry about that! If you have any other questions, just let us know!
@@formlighting thank you for the replies. Could you give me a little better idea of where the harness is up front? The video isn’t super clear. Thanks!!
@@2yung2dygaming59 Sure thing! You'll be looking for the white and green wire coming from the harness connected to the fender light. Once you've peeled back the front fender liner, it'll reveal itself more easily! It may also be beneficial to disconnect this harness, which we did not do for this video.