What NO ONE will tell you about Christians in Utah…
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Hopefully not the "most expensive" in terms of disregarding other christian denominations! :(
I might have supported you… until you bashed my faith. So I’ve un-subbed and will never watch another video.
It's funny how your "most expensive video" ever is about Mormons and not about Jesus. This is the fundamental problem with evangelicals. They love to talk more about Mormons than about Jesus
1) this video isn’t about Mormons, if you think it is you may have the wrong mindset.
2) the entire video is focused on the truth of scripture. From a historical and biblical point of view.
Have a good one my friend.
I came upon this video basically by accident because it came up in my CZcams feed. I thought the title was so intriguing I watch the entire video. However, I found the content misleading and repeatedly inaccurate and I feel it needs to be addressed because others watching this video might take what is being stated as authoritative when its not.
1. Utah is not in the top 10 for suicide rate. It’s ranked 14th.
2. The top states for plastic surgery per capita are Florida, California, and New York.
3. Bradley Campbell is retelling the First Vision account incorrectly. Saying there “was no truth in Christianity, that all the truth has been lost” is inaccurate. What is actually says in this: “I [Joseph] must join none of them, for they were all wrong;… all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
4. Joseph was not killed (martyred) in Nauvoo, but actually killed in Carthage, IL. And the shootout was really one sided. Mr Campbell makes it sound like the OK Corral. It was a mob that killed him, while he was in jail awaiting trial.
5. There are a boatload of coffee shops in Utah. A simple online search would validate this. And alcohol is also available, just with some restrictions on sales.
6. The Salt Lake City temple was not the first one in Utah. It was the first that construction started, but the St George, Manti, and Logan temples were all completed before the one in Salt Lake.
7. General Conference is better described as providing inspired instruction and lessons and not always “new revelations” as it’s being described. I mean, yes you can technically say new revelation has been given in general conference, but the way it is being worded could be better.
8. For a video that is saying it’s trying to get people to understand Mormonism to better understand "Christians" in Utah, it’s not doing the best job describing it.
9. Looking good does not equal worthiness whatsoever. That is a false teachings or misunderstanding on the authors part. Now culturally, individuals in Utah might be sometimes over focused on outward appearances, but that is not part of the faiths doctrine.
10. Again, anyone that professes faith in Christ as their Lord and Savior can be defined as a Christian. Yes, there are theological differences (all denominations have them), but labeling Mormons as not Christians is just getting old.
11. The presenters talk about there being no Christians in Utah. There are plenty of Christians in Utah that are not part of the LDS faith. According a Pew Research Center survey, 7% are Evangelicals, 6% mainline Protestants, 5% Catholic, and 2% other denominations. That’s 20% Christians that are not LDS. So the statement that they make that there’s no one to date or there’s no Christians to date, is somewhat misleading. Of course, according to their own definition, probably half the Christians from that poll in Utah are not Christians.
12. There are more than two Christian bookstores in Utah. Was he referring to Salt Lake City only? Even then, you can do a Google search and find more than two.
13. Saying that Utah is the only state that’s never been predominately Christian is wrong. According to multiple surveys and reports, Utah is around 73% Christian. They can’t just make up their own definitions of what a Christian when multiple data and reports says otherwise.
14. LDS do not view the cross as offensive. That is just the authors misunderstanding of LDS theology and practice. The LDS church actually used to use the cross more prominently many many years ago, but began focusing more on the idea of the living Christ, and not so much focusing on the symbol of his death. I have never met an LDS person that was offended by a cross.
15. I feel like there’s a lot of generalization and context that is not being said when they are talking about LDS members being put-off by religious discussions. Usually what’s happening is that they are told that they are not true Christians and basically going to hell. It starts becoming really old really fast when your religion and beliefs are being constantly attacked. There are plenty of members of the LDS Church who have friends and are able to have perfectly fine civil discussions without it turning into a Bible bashing, theological brawl.
16. The presenter of the video is stating that the other individual (Campbell or a third person) was “ducking his words“ to not gain attention or offend anyone. What does that even mean? Seriously, what is he even talking about here? He’s making it sound like they weren’t able to have freedom of speech. Further details and examples need to be provided in order to back up such a random claim.
17. Using a short clip talking about the thief on the cross could be a video in and of itself. If you look at the wording of the some of the earliest text, the word paradise should be translated as world of spirits or spirit world. I’m not sure what showing this clip does other than to demonstrate that members of the LDS church actually know their religion and know the Bible and are not going to just accept someone’s interpretation of the Bible at face value. Because that is really what denominations are, people interpreting the Bible one way or another.
18. And finally, comparing everyone in the state of Utah to a stinking gross, rotten underbelly that’s grotesque is just so extreme it’s laughable. Jesus said to love one another and feed my sheep, not insult an entire population of a state.
Excellent comment, thank you Stephen!
LDS are not the Majority in UTAH anymore. Christians "Technically and by definition" believe in the '3 in 1 - 1 in 3" So, by dictionary definition LDS are NOT Christian. I have no problem of anyone calling me NON Christian because it is Dictionary accurate. And, the Bible, KJV definitively PROVES Christ and Father are separate and NOT the "Christian definition.
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good comments. I hope the snipe life reads this.
Such a great response
I grew up outside of Utah as LDS in a Christian/non Christian environment where I was the minority A lot of was said about being a Christain in Utah is what LDS members living in other parts of the country experience with their Christian/non Christian neighbors. Despite the theological differences, hopefully, we can obey the commandments, with emphasis on the first two. That will make, no matter where we live, a better place for all.
Welcome to my TED talk.
I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints born in Utah, moved to Texas (the true Zion{jk}) These are my reactions, so it wanders a bit. Kudos if you make it to the end.
Why start with the stats on suicide, and cosmetic surgery?
Why not use the full name of the church? We're proud to call the church "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"
Right off the bat Bradly gets wrong the we believe that all truth had been lost. Perhaps that was just a summarization problem.
Utah is not a holy land for saints. Bradly says "in one sense" but doesn't say in what sense.
SLC temple was not the first temple built. It was St. George that was first in Utah. The SLC temple was 4th.
Again nitpick here at not shortening the name of the church to the Church of Jesus Christ, and rather to call it LDS.
We are Christians, we are not creedal Christians. That's the difference.
Using clips from the Godmakers is really classy. LOL. There are a lot of things wrong with that that I don't have time to get into there.
Do you want mega churches? Are those good examples of righteousness?
"Mormonism Research Outreach" lol.
The cross being an offensive symbol. This is just not true. I've never met another saint who was offended at the cross. We don't use it a bunch. This is true, but we don't shy away from it.
"behind enemy lines" this mentality is so broken. It paints me as your enemy. Why? Why do you want to paint us as the enemy Brandon?
We are well educated lol. Thanks for giving us a bone here.
The 2 culture dichotomy is pretty accurate.
Thanks for comparing us to flies, and stench. We are the "rotten underbelly" Wow. I'm sure that's going to go far to help us out "accept the gospel."
Obviously some bitter sarcasm there.
Look Brandon I met you, and your beautiful wife at Chosen Con. You treated us like friends there. I appreciate that. Why try to alienate us now? Is there some hand of God in all of this?
It feels pharisaical. Focus on all the ways that we're different instead of how we're alike. Instead of rejoicing in Jesus Christ together.
That said I really don't like Utah culture as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There's a lot about Utah culture that's toxic. It's something that LDS people know, and are working on. There's no good excuse for it. It's one of the reasons that I like being a member in Texas. Utah culture sure comes originally from the church, but it's its own thing. Utah is a geographic area. There are more members outside of the state than in it. More members outside of the United States than inside the United States.
All in all you should've talked to a member about what being a member is like. Talk to one of us. In the end, we believe in Jesus Christ. I know that He lives. I know that he's saved me from my sins. I know that there's no other way to the Father, but by Him.
I know that He wants me to be one in Him, as He is one with the Father.
There are points of our doctrine that are different, and you may find that offensive, but most of those differences result from the creeds.
Best of luck on your individual journey to find the truth Brandon. It'll lead you to the Church of Jesus Christ if you're seeking dilligently. I know that that might offend you, but it's true. We believe in the same Jesus, and that there is no other way to the father but by him. I hope someday that you can be baptized by the same authority that Peter had. I hope that you'll be able to enter that temple and see all that the Father has.
Love you brother.
Thank you!! I second this.
Well done! I couldn't have said it better!
The focus of the video is not the LDS church. It’s how Christians live in Utah. That’s the main thing most people are missing here. Bradley isn’t saying that the Mormon church is the issue that is the dark underbelly, but rather sin. Unfortunately sin can also look like something good, not just thing we as a society deem as bad. I study and seek truth. That includes evidence, history and tangible things that just do not exist in the LDS framework. Where I can easily find thousands of examples of this literally only from a Biblical point of view. God was very purposeful in keeping things intact in Israel and the rest of the Holy land. That’s just not the case for Joseph Smith’s claims.
Like I said, this isn’t the point of this video. It’s to understand Utah from a Protestant “evangelical” Christian point of view (putting quotes because people get weird about that label). So some of things you’re writing here are just a misunderstanding of what was actually being communicated. No hate at all to the LDS peeps. I have LDS friends. But if I’m going to live what I believe I’m going to continue to speak the truth that God tells me to.
No hard feelings, seriously. Much love and same to you I pray you seek truth honestly.
@@TheSnipeLife Hey man. To say that the video wasn't about the Church of Jesus Christ and then proceed to make 80% of the watch time about the Church seems a little bit fishy no? I get that you're trying to shine a light on the evangelical experience, and that's a good effort, but you can't have it both ways.
Evidence, tangibal things, and history huh? The Bible sure has a lot of evidence, because it's true. I'm glad you found that much. That's blessed your life for sure. If you haven't found evidences for "Joseph Smith's claims" perhaps you haven't looked hard enough. How about the testimony of the 8 witnesses? The 3 witnesses? The existence of the Book of Mormon as another testiment of Jesus Christ? Chaismus in the Book of Mormon? The existance of the Doctrine and Covenants?
Look man, you know none of that changes anyone's minds. You could show me any number of christian artifacts, which are super neeto burrito, and might build my faith, but they just aren't the foundation to my faith. That's why I don't think it's useful to have an artifact war.
Also I still have some unanswered questions if you want to do rapid fire and clean those up.
Why start with the stats on suicide, and cosmetic surgery? (Is this to highlight the aforementioned sin you were talking about?)
Why not use the full name of the church? We're proud to call the church "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"
Do you want mega churches? Are those good examples of righteousness?
Why use the line "behind enemy lines?" Why use a thumbnail that shows missionaries that are creepy and domineering as fetch? Also why only black ties? I've literally never seen missionaries wear black ties. Obviously this is a super small nitpick, but it's just a trope at this point.
Interesting that you didn’t use a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as your guide in this “journey” to understand Utah. Kind of like asking a dental student to explain brain surgery. Missed the mark completely. ❤
Matthew 7:16 "by their fruits ye shall know them" I challenge you to research what members of the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do...what the church does for the poor and needy all over the world...if charity is the "pure love of Christ" and we serve just as other Christians then why are we not Christians? We know who is at the head of our Church.....Jesus Christ. You are also getting your information from someone not of the faith who has distorted many truths. That is like me commenting and doing a video on Baptists and yet I am not a Baptist. Why don't you interview a member of the Church? Attend a church service. I am sure you will be welcomed and you can have a better understanding. Jesus is the Christ.....our Savior and Redeemer and He atoned for all. Yes indeed...we are Christians. God bless.
Okay.
The strange thing about using the Nicene Creed basis of the Trinity for your definition of Christianity is that you can say Utah has the least amount of Christians, but also the highest percentage of people in any state that believe in the Savior Jesus Christ. The LDS church are your fellowcitizens in Christ! Don't alienate us my brother!
I mean we went through the reason we can’t include LDS in that number. It’s not the same thing… nothing against LDS, just saying it’s like apples and oranges. Which of course Joseph smith would agree with. In the LDS view we are corrupt and you would be restored.
@@TheSnipeLife your creeds are corrupt (nicene in particular) not you individually. God is zealous to save his children; think of all those who Christ ministered to- not just the “chosen” ones. The power of Christ’s atonement is infinite.
You are ignorant if you think the LDS and other non-creedal Christians are not Big C Christian. Creedal Christians are annoying as hell about this stuff I swear. Less then three hundred years ago yall were murdering each other over this crap, now you pretend to be best friends.@@TheSnipeLife And when ya'll aren't in the same room as one another, you say the same crap about each other as you do about Mormons "oh, Catholics aren't Christians, they worship idols." "Oh Calvinists hold to an understanding of God that makes him into a sociopath!" And on and on it goes.
The second a Mormon, Coptic, or Seventh Day Adventist, or any non-creedal Christian walks in the room ya'll act like you were not just going to stab each other in the back SMDH.
Dont try to be accepted, just make sure you dont give your attention/money to people who are against your veliefs and subtly against Jesus' teachings... For money
Mormonism is not a Christian denomination. It’s a religion that was created by Joseph Smith, a conman.
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints check all the boxes of your “requirements” to be Christians.
They unfortunately don’t and there’s conflict with the Book of Mormon and the Bible as well
Name one way in which we don't check the boxes he lines out here, other then we are non creedal Christians?@@NESShadows
@@a.r.hollowayauthor7210LDS use a lot of the same language and terminology as orthodox Christians do, but LDS mean very different things by those terms. These theological differences are sufficiently significant as to comprise a related, but distinct, religion.
@@a.r.hollowayauthor7210 One? Okay. The belief that Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Believing this changes who Jesus is which makes the Jesus of Mormonism a different Jesus and not the Jesus of the Bible. There are others I could offer but you asked for one and that's a biggie. If you worship a different Jesus from the biblical Jesus, then you don't have a Christian belief system. Mormonism may employ some "Christianese" but, no, Mormons are not Christians -- for this reason and so many others. I suggest listening to Mike Winger's teachings about this -- if you really want to know. He's a great apologist.
Mormons believe they can become gods. NOT Christian at all.
In my opinion , a true Christian loves And believes in Christ. A true Christian loves everyone as Christ loves everyone. I am totally against bashing any Christian religion. I just love people.
Well said!
I didn't see any bashing, but a carefully worded description of the differences between the two religions for better understanding. I have cousins who are LDS and I was raised Catholic (another religion quite different from Christianity.)
@@kyrilascully7828 I hope I didn’t accuse anyone of bashing , I just said I am against bashing . 😊😊
I love you! Totally agree!
Thank YOU MaGiMo62
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Jesus Christ.
I find this video to be very passive aggressive. They say they aren’t there to pick on Latter-day Saints, but then go on to twist our doctrines and cite many anti-Latter-day Saint arguments and play anti videos in the background. That evangelical church has a bunch of anti stuff hung up on the walls and it appears they teach classes against our Church. I’ve never had an anti-traditional Christian lesson in all my life as a member. We try to avoid tearing down other faiths to build ours up.
They compared us to flies and stench. They mischaracterize our doctrine of what it means to be saved by grace and claim that is the reason Saints just try to look good. They put Utah’s higher than average suicide rate directly on our Church and its doctrine. I’m not saying we’re perfect, but this video is pretty offensive. Our doctrine leads me to be a better person and to have a personal relationship with Christ.
I wonder if traditional Christians would like it if I flew to the South and pulled up some negative stats on that state and blamed it on Christian teachings of saved by Grace alone. Would that be fair and charitable of me?
Also, traditional Christians who live there can now appreciate what Latter-day Saints feel living outside Utah. It can be tough and feel lonely sometimes, but most people are good and kind no matter their beliefs.
As a person who struggles with attaching to any denomination, I can say one thing. It has been said many times in the bible by Jesus himself in many verses in different ways that he separates himself from God. People still miss the message which Jesus himself says, not any apostles, himself. Also, Jesus never called his followers Christians, and yet here we are in 2024 still debating who are Christians. Jesus himself was a Jew, and he referred to his followers as the house of Israel or Saints. When people get ideas, and believe in certain things then it's hard to challenge that, because challenging faiths leads people to war.
Most of "Christianity" is based on catholism and therefore NOT Scriptural in their doctrine. People really need to read and think / contemplate the scariest verse in the Bible, as it addressed to believers, not followers: Matthew 7:22-23
22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
Watched you before, now I’m done.
Many of us are done with this channel
Considering that LDS members are Christian, I feel like the title of this is super misleading
I enjoyed hearing of the strong stand of Christians in Utah and will be praying for the Christian community. I believe strongly that the body of Christ should be united: because Jesus Christ is the head of the church. All believers in Christ belong to the body, regardless of the denomination. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is clear to those which have been blessed to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is God! There is nothing mortal man can do to earn that which only God has provided through Jesus Christ; Salvation! An Ephesians 1 & 2; Romans 10:9-13 and John 14:6 moments! 🙏🏾ing😇✝️❤️
I was baptized into the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints in 1971. The pastor of my secular Christian sect visited me about a week before and used every means at his disposal to keep me from becoming a member of the insidious Mormon church. I listened to him carefully, but in the end I followed my heart and soul and ended my membership in his church, for it was, at the time, his church. He preached nearly all of the sermons, determined its doctrines and baptized (by immersion) all who wanted a home there. And he would have baptized my family and me had we stayed.
Having seen and experienced the LDS church from both the outside and in, I have come away with a sour taste for the secular Christian faith. At times they seem pompous, arrogant, even hypocritical. The way they talk about "Christians" trying to "dialog" with "Mormons" (as if we _weren't_ Christians) illustrates their arrogance and hypocrisy. In debates, LDS participants are treated with courtesy and are treated well, but when the secular Christians post the debates on CZcams, it's nearly always with a blaring picture with the words "CHRISTIANS v. MORMONS" plastered to attract viewers. They rationalize their duplicity by telling themselves, well, they really _aren't_ Christians, not as _we_ think of it. So instead of being honest and advertising PROTESTANTS v. MORMONS or even substituting the latter with an even more precise term, RESTORATIONISTS, the protestants never lose an opportunity of obfuscating the facts.
Mormonism is not Christianity unless they believe in the One un-created Triune God of all that is, ever was and ever will be. The LDS god is not that God. Jesus is an equal part of that Triune and NOT equal with the created satan. The Bible, the one with 66 books, 39 OT and 27 NT, penned by the hand of man but authored by the Spirit of God, the third but equal part of the Trinity, is the ONLY Scripture and explains it all. Please take the time to read up and learn, pray for Truth! The Truth will set you free!
@lesliebooth2833 oh right. Well. Who is it that lives their faith more often... statistically? What good is the truth if you don't even live it?
@@lesliebooth2833Every reason you have stated that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is straight from creeds not the Bible. It is all extra biblical. A little intellectual honesty would be nice.
I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Yes, Jesus Christ is a head of this church. We prefer to be called Latter-day Saints instead of Mormons or LDS and the full name of the church not the abbreviated version.
I gotcha, but as a CZcamsr most people outside of your faith don’t know anything else other than Mormon. So to have that label helps people understand.
It can be confusing when there are movies and media campaigns by the church announcing themselves as Mormons
I understand that yes labels such as Mormons identify us. We have been told to use the correct name and stop using the nicknames.
@@haroldwhite5761this is true. Recently there was a flip flop on it.
@@Kadinsef My Mormon heritage goes back to Joseph Smith's times so that's the name I use, when current prophet dies we'll go back to introducing ourselves as Mormons.
It’s amazing to me that there are people out there that think they have the authority to say who is a follower of Jesus Christ and who is not.
No one spoke about any individual person. We’re speaking about labels and what fits under them. No need to be offended.
@@TheSnipeLife I agree with the last comment (no one, but Jesus himself can judge us) and our beliefs. We shouldn't only think one faith is the only one who believes in Jesus (many do)!
Sorry, but Mormons believe that they can become gods. There is nothing Christian about that!
The lds dissagree with the Biblical Christ anf Father. That is the Authority upon which we stand.
@@inChristalone1960 They actually agree with the Bible and there are many scriptures to back this up. However what is your take on the difference is if any? Nevertheless we can all agree that Jesus is our savior and God is good. The rest is details that perhaps for later we can see the full truth.
Only one Christian book store in Utah? I guess he forgot to include the many Deseret Book stores.
That's a Mormon bookstore
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@@missys7823 No it is "Christian" book store (and "yes", LDS are Christian - as well as catholic, protestant, and evangelical too, etc).. Not sure why some people and religions make their "religion" more about who is false, vs about what their "own" religion talks about. Christ wants us to come together as a people, faith, and religions (vs division). That is why I "love" the chosen!
@nute742 ““Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household” - Jesus
@@nute742 Mormons are not Christian. Mormons are opposed to Christian teaching on some of the most basic tenants. Mormons don't believe in the trinity, they don't believe in original sin, they don't believe we're saved through Grace. Mormons believe that the fall was actually a good thing. Mormons believe that someday they will become a god. That excludes mormons from Christianity.
Yeah, Mormonism is kinda weird. But, I've lived in Mormon communities amd they are generally clean, safe, and conservative. You can do a lot worse than living in a place like Utah.
No, we look clean but are not safe from the c.s.a. epidemic
Mormons are great people generally, no hate for sure. Some of the nicest people I’ve met. The problem is that being nice doesn’t change the truth of the Gospel.
@@TheSnipeLife I agree. There is a dark underbelly to Mormonism.
@@TheSnipeLifeNot coming from a place of contention. Does membership in the church exclude one from Heaven?
@@TheSnipeLife "by this shall men know that ye are my disciples"
I just want to first say (1) I really have loved your channel and the way you have fairly handled viewpoints, etc in the past(chosen, etc) (2) However this "guy" you invited on your show is probably "not" the right person to talk about Mormons. (You at least owe it to yourself to talk with someone from the lds faith too) (3) I don't like what is said sometimes about Mormons / lds "not" being Christian (its 100% false). Even various other religions' or sects disagree within their own communities too (on baptism, certain doctrines, etc). (4) Many things said about the LDS theology are not always accurate (especially coming from an outside source). (5) Also many cultures, faiths, religions are here besides just Mormons, as Utah is more diverse than ever. Of course the LDS faith, culture is strong here (because the LDS had to flee the mobs and governments that were trying to Kill them!) So its not like they (lds) ran away to Utah (to not include everyone). They (LDS church) even named their church after him! (Why don't other religions do this, if their faith is after Jesus)? Jesus himself said that was a pre-requisite. However (6) Despite these things, they (LDS) believe Jesus was born to Mary, was the son of God and atoned for our sins and is our savoir! (Those main things are far more important, than other details that some people may not know or understand, or agree with). (7) Bookstore - there are "many" here. Maybe what you mean are there not a lot of "Evangelical" book stores vs stores that have LDS books as well (Who again are also Christians). Yes there are more LDS people in Utah (thats a "no brainer") However if one where to go anywhere else in America there would be a lot more other types of Christian (in the majority). Its not fair, or unfair - but just the nature of different religions, demographics etc. (The same could be said if one went to Israel) and couldn't find man Christian Book stores! (however hopefully that will change in the future)! As per "Christianity" the LDS have helped a lot of other faiths here too. One example is the Cathedral of the Madeline (so hopefully you view Catholics as Christians too, because they are as well). (8) The cross is "not" offensive to LDS (they just don't use it as much). (9) "ironically" Utah, Salt Lake - has a lot of "anti-Mormon communities and prejudice sometimes) If you go up to the U of Utah - there are a lot of "Mormon haters" And sometimes they (lds people) are persecuted there (or people, organizations are biased against them) because of their faith (Or conservative political views). Hopefully you can also talk to some LDS people too (other LDS youtubers) Which I can put you in contact with them. (I think the podcast would be really good - to get a real perspective) so to see both sides. Okay enough said and food for thought! (Keep up the good work) and thanks. Again - LDS are Christians!!!! (in the most upmost way).
A lot of misinformation in this video. I wish you could have had actual Latter-Day Saints speak in this video.
Anyways, leave them alone. Let them celebrate their religion in peace.
What exactly is the misinformation? I’d love to learn for sure.
@@TheSnipeLifeTime to set up a dialogue :)
@@TheSnipeLife If I did a show about evangelicals, I would probably want to have an evangelical on the show. Why would you spend all that money to not have an actual member on. It is very amateurish and quite frankly, what we would expect from a creedal evangelical/born-again believe such as yourself
I also wanted to say, the grid design of the streets in regard to the temple makes it very easy to learn your way around the city.😊
This is not a video that christ would have made
Read Matthew 23
Here is my thinking. If I want to know about plumbing I will go talk to a plumber and not an electrician. I would hope you would of talked with a true Mormon cause as I listened to your guest , I felt some twisted truths and lies. I really enjoy your channel Brandon but if you are going to interview about a religion at least have someone from that religion to explain the faith …fair ?
We may talk about other religions eventually, but remember this video was focused on what it’s like for Christian’s in Utah. So we had to clarify things with LDS and how Utah was founded to make the story clear. No bashing here for sure, I have Mormon friends and people I’ve worked with. I just can’t label as “Christian” because of the beliefs they hold.
@peLife The guy you teamed up with on this video has a "website" dedicated to anti mormon videos (lol). I really like Brandon Robbins guy (he seems to focus on just the gospel) vs other sects not being true. ( I have still enjoyed your videos though) overall. I hope in the future (to be fair) bring on an lds person - to talk, debate, etc. (Just to get another opinion from the source, vs a critic). Okay god bless and thanks :)
Good morning 🌄 have a wonderful day ,Happy Sunday 🎉🎉 How are you doing
Bradley presented a very fair and honest portrait of the critical differences between Mormonism and Biblical Christianity. You don't need to interview a farmer to learn what manure smells like.
@@HoldmeJesus8 Its sorta like asking cnn / msnbc about trump! (lol)
I believe there are differences between the groupings of people in Utah who both center their lives around Christ and attempt to live by His teachings. I wish there was one word you could group them together by.
What is a dog, a cat, a moose, a wolf, a camel, a bear? A mammal
What is a Pentecostal, a calvanist, a baptist, an evangelical, a catholic? A Christian
What is a mormon? Well it's the enemy, and if you are in Utah you are behind enemy lines
Seriously?
Suggesting that we can't be compared as the euphamism 'apples and oranges' suggests is offensive.
Christians want to alienate us as a faith group from Him, because they feel justified by a few verses. Verses that have been voted on by men, interpreted by men, catalogued, argued for or against, adopted or purged from a compendium by men. But they can't call us by name cause it doesn't fit their narrative; so we are called Mormon or LDS. They get away with it because A.) Our true name is really long B.) We wore the nickname cause it was an identifier for a small group who had been ostracized from society and licked at that acknowledgment as scraps from a table.
We are The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. You wouldn't say the name. I understand why it's sticky, and you have a nice little "out" but it's disengenuous.
You have a nice tone, and you act like you are not attacking, but you villify and suggest across the thread here that members of our faith group are hellbound. You site a few scriptures here and there that seemingly paint us with the color you like....but context
So here is context:
The World forced us to abandon our sacred places of worship, The World murdered our prophet, The World forced us out of their land, The World issued a genocidal extermination order against us, The World tarred and feathered our leaders, The World rejected us and so it's funny and curious that our treatment resembles the treatment of original christians a lot more closely than you perceive. I wonder why that is -- or rather I don't
You Brandon, suggest you are studying and seeking truth, yet you seem convinced you have it all. I think you should take that seeking bit a little more seriously here, and if you won't really ask yourself why? Because others hate us? Because they put blinders on your face that are cozy and comfortable ad provide us as a target to scoff and scorn?
Hmmm it's interesting....interesting indeed.
John 15:18-19 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you."
I took the verses from the NIV of the bible fiy
Around the 11:50 mark (of this video) Bradley states that Mormons (Lds) believe that we actually have to "obey" the commandments in order to be with God!, (lol) Its called the commandments (a novel concept)! That's why we try our best (but sometimes still fall short) but Jesus atonement makes up the difference (His grace is sufficient for all - that come to him, repent with a broken heart). Otherwise believing (but doing nothing) would "rob" justice & mercy. Both concepts of "grace" + works - in the bible/scriptures are taught (We need to have both) Its like a puzzle - one is not without the other.
Grossly misrepresenting and not even three minutes in. Color me surprised
In what way. It would help for sure if you were exact so I could know.
@@TheSnipeLife Claiming that Joseph Smith was told all truth was lost in his vision, instead of the actual statement that the full truth wasn’t found on the earth.
@@TheSnipeLifegranted it wasn’t you personally making the comment and I didn’t watch the full video, but I think there is a significant difference between believing there is “no truth” in Christianity and believing that the full truth of Christianity isn’t found on the earth. Members of our church belief there is plenty of wonderful truth in many different faiths, even those who aren’t Christian. But just that there are pieces missing from other belief systems that we believe we have.
@@TheSnipeLifeOn a scale from 1-1,000 what is your interest level in doing a dialogue with a well informed Latter-day Saint?
@@TheSnipeLifeIt would be interesting for you to do a sequel to this video after spending time dialoguing with Latter-day Saints to understand them better.
Really good video! Excited for the next one! such a good idea for a series!
Can I say a big THANK YOU to Bradley for explaining the fundamental differences between Christian disciples and Mormons.
It's The Church of of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, nicknames are LDS, Mormons, etc
Fascinating. This actually reminded me of some CZcams videos I watched recently about Christianity in Japan - a similar clannish culture that us really hard to crack. After some controversy around The Chosen because they employ LDS members, about a year ago, I decided to look into what Latter Day Saints actually believe. I wanted to know also because I had a boss that was Mormon and moved back to Utah after he retired. He was very nice, but definitely acted differently than an evangelical Christian. So I started reading the Book of Mormon, prayed that God would allow me to use it in some way. Then missionaries knocked on my door. Met with them. Made 1 mistake which was not being overtly upfront that I wasn't interested in joining their church but was interested in discussions. They were more at ease after that. I ended up meeting with 2 other sets because they didn't leave enough notes to explain what this anomaly woman (who didn't slam the door in their faces, but didn't want to be taught lessons) was. I took a deep dive into the LDS website, watched way too much LDS and ex-Mormon CZcams and Hello Saints and Apologia, and then forced myself to finish the Book of Mormon because I felt like I understood the doctrine and the culture by the time i was halfway through, and the book is just not good literature. I didn't know what to expect with all of that, but I definitely was very surprised.
And after all that, I still had no idea about rhe street naming in regards to Temple Square! Haha, so great job coming up with niche content.
Love the deep dive 😂 cool to hear.
@@TheSnipeLife I'd definitely encourage other Christians to meet with the missionaries. Tell them you'd just be happy to have a discussion about their beliefs and yours, and have them over for family dinner. And also to read some of the Book of Mormon at least, and understand tri-theism, their doctrine of the fall, and their doctrine of exaltation, as well as a bit of the culture and how they view temples and their purpose. Discussions about atonement, salvation, and gospel are too confusing if you don't know those first. I admire these evangelicals in Utah!
Why don't you talk to a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter- day Saints? What this guy is saying is not totally correct.
What exactly is off here? I’d love to learn for sure. But the reason we didn’t talk to a member is because this video was specifically from the perspective of a Christian in Utah. So having Bradley’s understanding was the point of the video.
@@TheSnipeLifeI’m a member of the church that’s the subject of this video. Looking forward to watching the rest, I’m just 2 minutes in. Have you spoken to Pastor Jeff of “Hello Saints”?
I’ve seen/ heard of him but no we’ve never met 😁
@@TheSnipeLifeIt would be profitable & interesting to talk to him. Part of his approach is “to fight criticism with curiosity”. I love your channels & appreciate your analysis. I have lived in Salt Lake City my whole life, I look forward to seeing the rest.
I’ve talked to numberous missionaries, bishops and other leaders. It breaks my heart the hatred and manipulation and abuse that is in their institution.
Well made, Well narrated story. As a Christian living outside Utah, I never thought what it is like to be a Christian living in Utah. I know, Mormons are founded and grossly misguided by another false prophet, to be honest, there is no shortage of them even today. I digress. I sincerely pray that God in his ever-loving love and everlasting mercy, opens the eyes of these lost people so that they too can be saved.
Please exercise more prayer and diligent study…I’ve heard you criticize Mormons many times…we don’t malign you. Our Savior Jesus Christ said to “Love One Another”…maybe we could all at least try that!
“ You Blind Guides, you strain out a gnat but swallow a camel” - Jesus
@@TheSnipeLifeHe did indeed say that. Could that statement from Jesus be said about you & me?
You need to be careful what you share I know so many spirit filled LDS people and I would trust them with my life ❤
And salvation?
@Brokenandhealed You better not. they are the biggest gossips and backstabbers on the planet.
@@VgVi13 Why do your paid pastors talk more about Mormons than about Jesus? It seems weird
@@GwPoKo What are you talking about? that's a lie but Mormons are good at making up lies.
Mormon Christian here. Over 50 years of loving Jesus Christ.
You love and worship Joseph more.
@@VgVi13 Your paid pastor puts on "how to tract to mormons" workshops. They clearly love to talk more about Mormons than about Jesus
@@GwPoKo Workshops are teaching Christians to help Mormons get saved. No different than Morons sending out missionaries, Except Christians are teaching a different God. "The God of the Bible"
Excellent video!!! I've heard Evengelical Pastor's criticism The Chosen for ties to the Mormons & because I follow The Chosen from day one, I noticed these Pastor's have only seen the trailers. I comment to them that if they don't follow it, they shouldn't voice a negative opinion 🤷.
Agree, the LDS view of God, the Father and Jesus is diametrically opposed to Christian view. The buffet being that Jesus is not created. He is eternal, always existed
How can he have a father then?
@@fred-62Thats the problem with the trinitarian heresy, it contradicts scriptures
The Dead Sea scrolls affirm our theology
This was very informative and a good description of the differences between Christianity and the LDS church.
Amen. We ALL need the gospel of Jesus the Christ because we ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God
Thanks for making this video. 👍
Excellent presentation. Fascinating!
This is awesome brother! Great video!
That was very interesting. Thank you Brandon. I usually don't like spoilers but yes, I would like to know where you are going next.
A land far far away…..
Israel!!
He's coming here next, Utah. People will bend over backwards to help him get footage for his podcasts, then he will turn it into an anti-mormon podcasts for all to enjoy. Talk to Jeff McCullough. He was really slick.
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Thanks, you guys, for a really informative video. I applaud those who stand strong living there. John 4:34-35 -- "Jesus said to them, 'My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work. Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, and then comes the harvest’? Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look on the fields, that they are white for harvest.'"
I don’t really know how to say this first I am a Mormon and proud of that,and we are Christian ,I am dyslexic , do believe what you are saying you feel it to be true ,we all have are free agency, i well not argue with you, would like to to discuss some of your thoughts though ,take care this is my opinion 😊
Yep, feel free to leave your thoughts. That’s what’s best about the space we’ve created here.
Brandon and Vanessa, I thank God for your obedience to make a video like this. Just looking at the title, I knew it was SL. It's tough to share Jesus with people who believe in a faith that isn't salvific. I will be praying and looking for ways to support our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ as they live in a tiny hostile community. May they shine His light even brighter. Going to support Bradley's channel right now.
as an atheist, mormon theology sounds alot cooler tbh
😂. Okay
There is no unique evangelical theology that doesn't copy-paste what is already in others like Catholicism and other Protestant beliefs.
Brandon this is so timely, seeing that some of us will be going to Utah in April for filming of The Chosen. Practically speaking, thanks for explaining how the streets are named. That explains the address of the set in Goshen. Spiritually speaking, I need to understand how to converse with the LDS about Jesus. Thank you.
Glad you liked it Barbara!
Sadly, this video won't help you learn how to converse with members of the LDS faith. How about you just try asking questions and listening to them, and hopefully they'll be good about doing the same with you?
The Book of Mormon is a second witness of Christ, a companion to The Bible. To insinuate that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints aren't Christian is ridiculous!
I totally agree! Is it hard to see?
I love the lds people. They are my family. They do however follow another Jesus and another gospel. Please see the King Follett Discourse by Joseph Smith and Compare to the Biblical uncreated eternal God and Christ of the Bible. They are not the same. Jesus was not Lucfers brother, but his creator.
I could go on. The Freemasonic temples, the belief in becoming gods...
This is not the same as Christians believe.
Peace.
❤
If it's companion to the Bible does that mean you take the you're doctrine from BoM or the Bible?
@@Lollipop.er42 The "Doctrine of Christ" is in both the Bible and The Book of Mormon. It is expounded with great clarity in the Book of Mormon helping to avoid getting a false understanding by missinterpreting The Bible!
Being a "Mormon" in other states can be lonely too! (lol) However over 1/2 the population is already non-Mormon.
Sorry Brandon. I think this video was a slap in the face of Mormon religion. I am a Christian, Baptist. I know many people of the Mormon faith and they are better Christians than a lot of baptist I know. I think you should do another video with a member of the mormon faith
Really powerful thank you sirs
This was very informative and helpful information. Well put together information.
May be one of the "most" christian places in America!
Mormons are not Christians. They worship other gods. Not the God and Jesus of the Bible.
The temple is built on lay lines to increase spiritual energy. There are more spiritual sightings there than any other temple. See D Michael Quinn's book "mormonism and the magik world view".
Hey Brandon, What is the difference between Mormons and Christians ? Also what's the difference between latter day saints and Christians?
Latter-Day Saints and Mormons are the same thing.
Mormons are Christians (just as much as any other sect if not more) As they believe in Jesus Christ and what he did (today), and have living prophets and apostles, and additional scriptures to testify of him! They follow Christ (which is the definition of being christian).
Hey! Yeah so Mormons and Latter Day Saints are the same thing. Just nicknames of the group basically. I do not consider them to be christian because they fundamentally (much more than any other denomination) change the foundation of both God and the Bible to fit something that has no evidence or grounds for belief. Like I outlined in this video, there are just core beliefs that are completely different between Christians and LDS.
I am a Christian who lives in Utah and who was raised Mormon and left Mormonism to become a Christian. It’s true that they worship three gods and that this isn’t true Christianity. However, some Catholics and Protestants have also made a similar mistake if they believe in the portion of the Nicene Creed that talks about the Son eternally existing alongside the Father as a separate god or being, the exact wording in the Nicene Creed that is incorrect is: "born before all the ages.” In true Christianity, however, the Father and the Son are one person from eternity and never existed as two, rather Jehovah (the Father) took on a human form, in time and space, as the Son, and the Trinity exists inside of the Son, the Lord Jesus, rather than outside of him in some ethereal realm. Protestants definitely have a much closer idea of God as one person than the Mormons, but are still slightly off on that point. The Word was God and is God because the Word is both love and wisdom united as one person in the Lord.
Ummm….when you live and believe that Jesus Christ is your Savior, Messiah etc …that is a definition of a Christian. Denomination bashing isn’t very Christlike behavior. That’s why we do not participate in it. I do not live in Utah and have never lived in Utah. I have no plans to ever live there. Period. My faith has nothing to do with a state. It has nothing to do with statistics that can be manipulated one way or the other depending on what you outcome serves your agenda. John 13:34 says it best “As I have loved you, love one another.”❤️❤️❤️
Wow! That was awesome Brandon!
Thanks! Worked REALLY HARD on this one 😁
Interesting video Brandon. Thanks 😊
Great vid
Hey - thanks for letting me be a part of this video - it was an honor (and a blast!)
@GLM I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints & have lived in Salt Lake City my whole life. Not too long ago, I would have been really offended by the lake analogy you used at the end of the video. Due to God’s grace, I’m progressing beyond that.
This is not coming from an adversarial position, but rather to better understand you. Do you think that analogy could be applied with equally accuracy to Evangelicals, Catholics, Orthodox, etc? Or strictly just to Latter-day Saints?
I think you captured the essence of being a Christian in Utah very well. I am in southeast Idaho and it is very similar here.
Glad to hear it!
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I’m a Christian in Utah, and my church anyway, serves up Jesus to our LDS friends. ❤✝️
Then I'm sure you'll enjoy this one!
I've been a christian in Utah, too. And just like you, my church serves up Jesus to the LDS people! It was a GREAT ministry.
The church is called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
@@scottlefoll2672best comment I’ve seen all day! 🎉
It's really interesting to hear that people in Utah are so concerned about how they look to others, that was new to me. But I can see how it works - I have a positive impression of many of the Mormons I know (slightly) or the prolific science fiction and fantasy writers living there, because we do share conservative values which I think lift everyone up. Christianity and Mormonism are separated by the facts of their theology, but I understand how people can get up in arms about trying to differentiate them (thus pushback in the comment section). My family lives in Utah as Christians and I've heard about the difficulties of being different than Mormons (even their own in-laws). Thanks Brandon.
Della W. Here I lived in Ogden Utah for a long time
Hey man, as a Latter-day Saint, feel free to disagree with us doctrinally, but it simply isn't true that our doctrine causes us to be depressed and maladaptively perfectionistic. There have been close to 160 studies conducted on Latter-day Saints the vast majority of them showing positive results regarding our mental health. Just because you disagree with us doesn't mean you should bear false witness against your neighbor.
I cant find my original post but youre right. I didn't watch it all. I was thrown off by your title and having been fooled by false religion in the past, im a little sensitive. I did finish watching it and i was wrong in my assessment. Forgive me.
Wow! Awesome information and explanation of Utah culture and spirituality.
really! that is not accurate spiritually
@@romettaison7003 how is it not accurate?
@@teresabrowning4126 read some of the comments from people that are LDS. We are truly offended by so much that is incorrect. Ask yourself, should someone that is not a member be stating our beliefs. I would never do that to someone from another church. Plus we are Christians,differences in some ways but the most important thing is to love and worship Heavenly Father and Jesus. Satan wants to divide us don’t let him. We are told by Jesus to love one another and not judge others. It is for God and Christ to judge,not us.
@@wendyluber4309 thank you for your input
When Jesus was Baptized a voice from the sky said this is my beloved son and the holy ghost decended like a dove. The question is how did he separate himself into three different beings when they were the same being or is he literally the son of God? It says the word was with God and God was the word. So if Jesus is the word and he was with God. So wouldn't it be logical to say he was with his father and is one with him and was One god together. Keep in mind how many times did he say father i thank the for hearing my prayers. If they are the same being then why would he thank himself. He would say im graceful that i have the power to help my children instead. LDS believe he is eternal.
Thank you Brandon! ❤ i have known little about the Christian side of Utah, so was quite interested to hear what you and Bradley had to say. This video will help me to be more specific in praying not only for the LDS, but for the strength, protection and especially of the effectiveness of Christians in Utah!!❤
This video was well done!🥰
(P.S. Loved the Salt Lake analogy!)
Very interesting and beautiful place.
Wow Branden. That is eye opening. Amazing. Thank you.
Brandon, this was a very disappointing video, filled with so many inaccuracies from 2 men that know not of which they speak. I started watching your channel because I am a fan of The Chosen. Speaking of The Chosen, reference has been made to meeting up in Goshen for further filming, I assume. For those that don't know the significance of Goshen, it is the location of the sets owned by The Church of Jesus Christ (yes, Jesus Christ) of Latter-day Saints used to film videos about the life and teachings of Jesus Christ (yes, Jesus Christ). When Dallas Jenkins needed a place to film The Chosen, permission was originally denied. Yet, members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that are affiliated with The Chosen went directly to Church leaders on behalf of Dallas and The Chosen. Dallas himself expressed this as an answer to prayer. You ought to listen to his livestream and hear it directly from him. Speaking of hearing directly from Dallas,did you know that BYUtv - as in Brigham Young University, owned and operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - airs The Chosen? And, after one of the episodes in the first season, Dallas himself comes on saying words to the effect that obviously the story did not end there and he was hoping to have many more seasons, but would need additional funds. He thanked BTUtv and in essence solicited funding from the BYUtv audience, which, by the way, is predominantly members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Perhaps this will give you some food for thought as to how you speak of Utah and its Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints members while you're there in Goshen, Utah.
Listening to the 2 of you speak so deridingly about me, and those I love, as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reminded me of the way the Pharasees and Sadduces spoke of Jesus, calling him a blasphemer. Remember what his response was? I'm sure you do - he called them hypocrites and likened them unto whited sepulchres, lovely to look at on the outside, but inwardly full of dead men's bones. I'd say we, members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints stand in good company along side Jesus Christ, of whom we love, speak of, preach of, teach our children of that they may know where to turn for salvation. By the way, that's in the Book of Mormon. I encourage you to read, ponder and pray about what you find written therein, for they are the Words of Christ.
Next time you see Dallas, perhaps you can explain to him that we are neither the Mormon Church nor the LDS Church, but The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? It seems he hasn't understood that yet or he would have made that connection a long time ago seeings how he has so many members affiliated with The Chosen and he is going back to Goshen using those marvelous answer-to-prayer sets?
Also, do you remember in the Christmas Special first shown in theaters? One of the musical groups performing was The Bonner Family. They came in with a drum playing and sang How Great Thou Art. When they sang those opening words, "Oh, Lord, my God" the witness of the spirit was so strong it made me weep. They returned again for this past Christmas Special. They are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
My ancestors crossed the Atlantic Ocean only to walk across the great plains and Rocky Mountains in covered wagons and a handcart to get to Utah, a place of refuge from religious persecution, therefore, Utah is sacred ground to me, as it is to millions of us, no matter where in the world we call home.
What a beautiful analogy he made about the salt lake and the city. Wow! Very well said and completely understood! Excellent explanation! It makes me very sad for them, much needed prayers for the people of Utah.
@nilarene2088 In your estimation, do you think that analogy could be used on all groups of people? Or are there some that would be immune to that characterization?
Comparing everyone in the state of Utah to a stinking gross, rotten underbelly that’s grotesque is just so extreme it’s laughable. Jesus said to love one another and feed my sheep, not insult an entire population of a state.
We pray for you as well.
@@sherigraham3873 Thank you. The more the better.
Good morning everyone ❤
Just wanted to let you know I am really disappointed in this. I have been a faithful viewer for a long time. I will be unsubscribing. Utah culture and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints are two separate things. Please do not teach false doctrine about my faith. If you want to understand go to the direct source.
When you say faith which faith are you talking about? If it is faith in the one un-created Triune God of all that is, ever was and ever will be, that is precisely the God he is referring to. The LDS god is not that God. The Bible, the one with 66 books, 39 OT and 27 NT, penned by the hand of man but authored by the Spirit of God, explains it all. Please take the time to read up and learn, pray for Truth! The Truth will set you free!
I guess we need to ask what a Christian is. The statement that the only true Christian died on the the cross is probably true.
There are over 5000 different ideas of Christ. Who gets to decide which one is right?
Evidence, history and the Bible
This video is a prime example of why I don't subscribe to your channel...
Wow, I am speechless and could NOT finish watching this video! Why would you get an evangelical to explain what the Church of Jesus Christ believes!!! How bizarre! Watching him explain was like watching the Pharisees in “ The Chosen” with their self righteous attitudes! I love the series, the Chosen,it has touched my heart in so many ways! Dallas is an evangelical and I think he and the other writers are wonderful. Be careful what you are doing. I am LDS and I do not condemn you or tell you that you aren’t a Christian because of your beliefs. I am a Christian and Jesus Christ is my Savior, always and forever. How dare you say that we are not Christians! Jesus said that there are two churches,basically those that follow him and Heavenly Father and those who are against Him and our Father. He will decide who is Christian and who is not by looking at our hearts! You are being tempted by pride as many people are, including some in all Christian churches and including some LDS. We are warned not to judge others. Don’t do it, that’s what Satan wants,to divide us. It is my understanding that the Nicene Creed was excepted back in the times of Constantine. Was it accepted because of political reasons because mankind can’t resist having power over others. I don’t know for sure and am not going to condemn you or others because you believe it. I believe that Joseph Smith prayed to God and had a visitation from the Father and the Son,separate beings. Some of what you are saying in this video is taken out of context. Stop condemning others when you don’t really know much about us at all. I say the same to any LDS who feel they are superior to those of other religions. That is not what Jesus wants! He loves all of us,Christian and non Christian alike. Don’t fall into Satan’s trap of causing contention among Christians. And, please if you are going to try to talk intelligently about what we of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints believe, please get a knowledgeable LDS person to tell you!! NOT someone from a different church who definitely cops an attitude of superiority!! Please stop spreading untruths that we are not Christian! Everything we believe and learn and practice in our church is God and Christ centered ! Please stop calling us Mormons,we do not like the name and it has caused many to think we are not Christians. It was attached to us long ago by people outside our church. Thank you. 10:45
LOL..... you didn't watch the video tho. And remember the ground rules at the beginning of the video. This IS NOT a video about LDS, but a video about Evangelicals in Utah. The ONLY Reason I even Mention LDS here is to tell that story of Evangelical Christians in UTAH.
@@TheSnipeLifethe problem is that members of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints saw a video where a large portion of it was a slam against our beliefs based on inaccurate information and lack of understanding. I DID WATCH THE ENTIRE VIDEO TWICE. We consider ourselves Christians. We try to be like Jesus wants us to be. Just like any other church we have hypocrites. Just like other Christians we do the best we can and count on the sacrifice of Jesus to bridge the gap because all are sinners and fall short of the glory of God without it. It is painful to have other Christians who think they know what we believe say we are not Christians based on misinformation. All who are seeking the truth through study and prayer in the name of Jesus are, in my opinion, doing the best they can to follow him. What right does anyone have to create stumbling blocks for those seeking the truth? I like most of your videos as they often provide biblical information or context I have not been aware of before. But this video was a huge disappointment. While I will continue to watch your Chosen sleuth channel, I am unsubscribing from the snipe life channel so any hope this channel had of swaying my beliefs has just been canceled.
This video is the result of what happens when you only listen to your paid pastor about what Mormons believe and do. I used to follow your Chosen stuff but it has quickly turned into typical evangelical tropes. You're not brave just because you parrot the same things your paid pastor preaches in their monthly "how to tract to Mormons' workshop
The LDS church is not that far distant from 'christianity', which itself is a distortion of Paul's teachings which emphasized 'blood sacrifice' for 'remission of sins'. These beliefs are spurious and erroneous, as the only thing that matters is Love, Christ's unconditional love evidenced at (and before) his crucifixion. The Laws of Creation trump any religious nonsense.
All in all,, a wonderful presentation and now I know how to communicate with my LDS cousins. I'm looking forward to the Florida video because that's where I'm from.
really- If you use this as a guide... don't bother talking to anyone!
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Not believing that Jesus IS God is Blasphemy, the Unforgivable Sin. All the prophets have been Jewish. South Park got it right.
Subbing, I like your energy. Great video!
Oh.... I was truly feeling gratitude for how kind this Utah Evangelical was being to members of the LDS church. And then... the metaphor of the Great Salt Lake. Ugh. Now, I grew up in Utah, but moved away for about 20 years. We lived overseas for 1/2 of that- 3 years in a Muslim country. I would *never* compare living there to the Dead Sea. Yes, there are obvious problems in that country, but who am I as a non-Muslim and an outsider to be so derogatory. I showed my community as much love as I could- saw them as children of God. I had a Lovely Muslim man explain to me their beliefs in Jesus Christ- his way of trying to make connections with a Christian. Having lived away from Utah for so long and living in 5 very different cultures, I can see what a put-off living in Utah could be as someone who isn't LDS. Moving back to Utah I could see it dramatically. Everyone depends on their family (who have several living near by); they've lived there for years, so don't really have "time" to make new ones; those members who haven't ventured far from Utah don't really know how to connect with those people who have different beliefs.... And, guess what? It takes practice! Kill them with kindness and love. I would leave the Great Salt Lake metaphor to yourself.
Definitely praying for Utah as a whole! I'm interested when you do Ohio. There are many, many Christians here; but I've noticed there's just a ton of religiousness here. Thankfully, the church I just started going to is genuine, loving, and truthful!
If you want truth about Mormon Christianity, you need to go directly to the source. Check out Apostle Holland in 2007. Lots of misrepresentation here. Their biggest problem is they define "Christian" differently because they use man-made definitions. That doesn't fly with LDS who have a founding Prophet and others who have seen the Lord and expounded His view of the many representations of their creeds to them. Even Jewish leaders didn't believe Christ when he told and showed them clearly who he was.
Don't attack us I don't understand we love everyone and people think we burning in hell we don't even think you are, what a evil, thought please we love you man, love us back, form ah member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
This is so misleading and divisive between people of faith that it makes me wonder how many other things you or your guest misidentify. Surely Christ didn't want everyone to be so critical of those who don't look (believe) like them. Of course, this is only one point of view. Others are both better and worse. I believe that Christ will eventually clarify and unite us into one great truth that all who humble themselves to become teachable will adopt. Those unwilling to repent and receive correction will be cast off. Contention only empowers Satan. We must cultivate a spirit of kindness and love to be a part of the Kingdom of God.
Love how you approached this, too.
Thanks! I appreciate that 😁
Riiiiiiight. Come on, evangelicals aren't Christians either.
The Lord Jesus Christ has restored His Church along with Prophets and Apostles and your determination is to reject Christ’s work and call it non-Christian? Repent of this.
The part about it being hard, to nearly impossible, to date as a Christian in Utah is absolutely true. However, I've had problems dating Evangelicals as well, because they don't live by the truths that they preach and it's just theory for them rather than practice. Often Evangelicals will teach the right things, but don't live by them, whereas on the other hand, Mormons will more often live by them, but don't do so for the right reasons, and so miss the essence of love in the Word, and it just becomes a "salt lake" I suppose. Either way, both the old church religions and the LDS religion have major problems. For that reason, I just consider myself a Christian now, rather than as either a Protestant or a Mormon.
It’s bc u judge others so narrow-mindedly about who “is” a Christian & “isn’t,”that u THINK it’s a battleground for other faiths in UT. It’s not. U do it to yourself by judging. But u r not The Judge. Accept others’ faith.
Good morning my fellow followers ❤
The problem is...they think they already believe in Jesus. There are differences in what they believe but they don't understand the differences because of their brainwashing. I have a good friend that is Mormon and I have tried to talk to her, but she is so "learned" that she seems to be in a cloud.
Good morning 🌄 have a wonderful day ,Happy Sunday 🎉🎉 How are you doing
What an Excellent Video, Mr. Snipe! Your Strong and Confident Co-Host presented both the 30,000 Ft. View & the Street View of Utah, IN TRUTH! Bravo, to All in producing a much needed Dose of Reality for Messiah's Body (HisChurch), may we capture Yeshua HaMachiach's Vision of "The Fields Are Ripe For Harvest" - You have presented this very well, may Our LORD & Savior bless your Gospel Focused endeavors - "they shall NOT return to Him void!" BTW, we (Gail & Audrey B) will be returning to Goshen, UT, on April 15 through 26, 2024; quick Question: Will we be seeing you & Vanessa there in that location/time frame also? Please let us know; we are excited to be going back!
THE LDS is not a Christian church/denomination. Not by a long stretch. I have a dear friend who married a Mormon just after he demoralized and then divorced his wife. She totally bought into the Mormon way. I tried to Teheran that Mormons are not Christian. She would not listen.