The Quran & the Alexander Romance
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- In this video, I look at the similarities between the mythical legends attributed to Alexander the Great and the DhulQarnayn story in the Quran.
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Sources for information in video:
Background on the historical Alexander
www.britannica....
Background on historian Callisthenes
www.britannica....
Clashes between Callisthenes and Alexander
www.livius.org/...
www.livius.org/...
Information on Persian ritual of Proskynesis
www.livius.org/...
The History of Alexander The Great - Alexander Romance
drive.google.c...
Page 19 (on right side) speaks about origins of these legends
Page 20 (left) speaks about first written version appearing around 200 AD
(Arabic) Pre-Islamic poem by Tubba saying Sun sets in muddy spring, written hundreds of years before Islam - showing origins of at least some of the story preceded Islam.
www.altafsir.co...
Origin of DhulQarnayn name in Alexander Romance legends
Egyptian version - page 27 on right hand side of double page
Ethiopic version - page 50 on right
Christian version - page 135 on left
King Philip in legends saying he expects Alexander to rule the world - page 67 left
Ibn Kathir exegesis explaining DhulQarnayn ruled the world
www.qtafsir.com...
[tafsir for Quran 18:84]
www.qtafsir.com...
[tafsir for Quran 2:258]
Alexander in the legends saying he wants to see the edges of the world, wonders how the sky is held up
Page 129 (right)
Alexander seeing sun rise above a people who have no protection from it. Page 131 (left)
On same page [131 left], we hear about the Sun prostrating to God
Alexander legend speaks about him building a barrier to keep out the Huns, who include Gog and Magog - page 132 (left)
Alexander in myths using iron and brass to build barrier - page 133 (right)
Alexander Romance tells us Gog and Magog will be released near judgment day when they ask God to help them out - page 134 (left)
Authentic hadith saying Gog & Magog to be released once they say "Inshallah" (God willing)
www.sunnah.com/...
People who wanted to keep out Gog and Magog had the heads of dogs in Alexander Romance - page 133 (left)
Tabari tafsir quotes Mohamed in a hadith saying the same people mentioned above had heads of dogs
www.altafsir.co...
Authentic hadith saying Jesus will kill Dajjal (anti-christ) and also says Jesus will escape Gog & Magog by fleeing to Jerusalem
www.sunnah.com/...
Jesus flees to Jerusalem and escapes Gog & Magog
p.155 (left)
Alexander legends saying Jesus will kill anti-christ (Dajjal)
p.156 (left)
In Alexander myths pages 150 (right) and 151 (left) we hear about many of the signs of things to happen before judgment day - very similar to Muslim signs of things to happen before end of time.
Thanks for watching...
Brilliant academic analysis on the historical similarities. TMA you are second to none on youtube.
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TheSabatuer SAID the historical similarities.
IS THE HEAD STATUE OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT WEARING 2 HORNS IN ORDER TO HAVE the historical similarities WITH DHULQARNAIN WEARING 2 HORNS???
FACTUAL vs FICTIONAL ?? what are you on about
TheSabatuer
WAS THE HEAD STATUE OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT without WEARING A HELMET OF 2 HORNS =/= DHULQARNAYN WEARING A HELMET OF 2 HORNS???
FACTUAL vs FICTIONAL it was ragnar lothbrok
Thanks to you I was able to review my faith and finally QUIT IT;I am a free man now and that has absolutely no price. I am no longer afraid by the so called torment of the grave
You are a blind soul, that has easily been tricked by masked arab
Thanks to him? His research was incomplete and this video was refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
QuranPage - صفحة القرآن Pedphile Muhammad worshipper get out of this channel as you say to us in your islamic channel
here's a refutation : czcams.com/video/mHrTH2Kz1rA/video.html
@@quranpage-4479 multiple mistakes made in that video.
I have said it before, and I will say it again:
You are an asset to the intellect of mankind.
***** I care more for the opinion of an Apostate than that of a still-religious muslism.
"Blessed be the mind to small for doubt" - Morale of the Quran
ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚ I believe in logical evaluation of supposedly "holy" books, which more often than not ends with said books being utterly debunked.
If a book is the word of God, then there should be no problem in addressing it with the sharpest and most critical eyes possible.
If it cannot stand up to that, then it is worse than worthless.
***** ...I didn't?
***** I will always believe an apostate over a theist on matters of religion, especially in Islam
+Mudather Al-Hakim Considering they weren't falsehoods, your judgement is weighed and found wanting.
Apostacy should be rewarded when it is to leave a dogma such as Islam.
But hey, let's try an experiment. You are now going to demonstrate the mindset that is the reason why Apostates are needed in this world.
Muslim logic: DhulQarnayn cannot be Alexander, because DhulQarnayn was a Muslim.
Normal thinking person: Couldn't the story have been changed slightly to suit Muslims?
Muslim: No.
Normal person: Why not?
Muslim: Because the scriptures are perfect.
Reminds me of the Christians claiming Alexander the Great was a Christian. Fucking hilarious stuff.
However, God, being omnipotent, has the power to do anything, including making his revelation so crystal clear that there could never be competing interpretations. Or is God's power limited?
***** I was making a general observation of the Quran, not specifically this one story. And since the tafsirs disagree, some do say it's Alexander, that by definition means there are different interpretations of the story.
Both Christianity and Islam are bullshit. Jesus most likely didn't even exist, because no contemporaries wrote about him. It was only several years after his death that members of the growing cult surrounding him began to write about him. Muhammed was an evil man who promoted violence against anyone who was not Muslim, or even "hypocrites" who were Muslim but not the right kind of Muslim. He borrowed from the religions around him, including the concept of Djinn. Many of the claims in Muhammed's writings are scientifically impossible, such as the claim that the sun enters and exists the earth through springs of water, or that the earth is fastened to the back of a giant whale, or that there is a group of people trapped behind a wall that is large enough to be a threat to every other nation. Every nation under Islamic control has been barbaric, as if they were still living in the times before the Roman Empire. Out of all the world's religions, Islam is the worst, and Christianity comes in as a close second.
P Ciprian Check the facts. There are no records of Jesus. Many Christians point to Josephus, failing to realize that he wasn't even born until after Jesus supposedly died, and that he was a Christian, and therefor biased. If he did exist, stories about him were inflated over time. The earliest books of the New Testament didn't even mention Jesus' miracles or virgin birth. (Note: The Gospels were not the first books of the New Testament to be written.)
My brother is back with another video!!
Another false video, here's a refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
@@quranpage-4479 Stop spamming mindlessly... use your own baseless words so we can all have a laugh.
The muslim version of The Armored Skeptic.
Nice.
He's an atheist not a Muslim. And he's Arab which makes him cooler because Canadians are lame.
More like the apostate infidel version of TAS.
And no, i am not muslim, nor religious in any other manner.
He meant about the topic,not about the maker.
saityavuz76 she ;)
Doesn't look that way
The Masked Arab you don't know how much I appreciate you work! you have done your service to humanity!
He didn't do enough work, see this refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
"Refutation" let's see what mental gymnastics are used here... @@quranpage-4479
DhulQarnayn is not Alexander The Great because Allah said...
Wait, waht ?
This is a refutation of the video: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
He is Alexander Romance which is fictional character of Alexander the Great so DhulQarnayn in Quran is just fictional
wikiislam.net/wiki/Alexander_Romance
Same with Seven sleepers in Quran is similar with Seven Sleeper of Ephesus which is the persecution of Christian by Decius
Read this Quran has a lot of similarities with Apocyphal Source of Christianity and Jewish Talmud:
wikiislam.net/wiki/Parallelism_Between_the_Qur%27an_and_Judeo-Christian_Scriptures
I demand you write a book. You are a great new historian/philosopher.
+Philo Judaeus of Alexandria I am planning on it! I need to get the time to do so though...
The Masked Arab
Do make it!!
@@TheMaskedArab You probably won't read this but I am very excited to read this. I have been desiring this since I discovered your channel. I hope the book has a similar set-up as your channel, by which I mean it will be both English and Arabic (in one book)
@@TheMaskedArab What's your opinion about the refutal of your video about quran and Alexander romance by the channel 'Muslim Allegation Hunter'?
They have claimed that the syriac version you are referring is written in 7th century and the story of Gog and Magog was added in that version. The original latin or greek version from 2nd century doesn’t include that story. So the authors of the syriac version probably copied from quran.
There is a video subtitled in english where this suspicion was totally answered and clarified where the person has provided sufficient evidence
czcams.com/video/mHrTH2Kz1rA/video.html
Man, the Greeks just had their fingers in every pot, didn't they? I've thought that the Jesus myth has a lot of elements of Greek heroic myths; had no idea about the myths of the Quran though. Very impressive work, guy.
And look at them now...
you are right ...they open the borders of my country and look what happens....so another battles with muslims....
+peter pliakas you also have half the country working for the government and the other half retired. who's paying for everything?
Thats no true. ..there are many free entrepreneurs also ..do not listen to the media ...
+peter pliakas I was exaggerating but the stats I read say that retirement in your country is much earlier and the population % working for the government is much higher than most western countries. it doesn't sound sustainable.
Never give up. Islamic theocracies need to be crushed.
The amount of research that you do for each of your videos is astounding. Your channel is incredibly underrated! Can't wait for the next video!
Apparently he didn't do enough research, see this refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
here's a refutation : czcams.com/video/mHrTH2Kz1rA/video.html
@@quranpage-4479 Stop spamming...
@@cyberlink824 Stop spamming... use your own words.
Wow..!! Every second of it is pure gold..! I am a proud ex-muslim.
I hope you returned i can only pray
Refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Kafir Murtad
@@abdulaleem9970 better to be a murtad then a follower of a nasty man called muhammed.
@@quranpage-4479 Stop spamming mindlessly... use your own baseless words so we can all have a laugh.
DJ Khaled is my most favorite Muslim.
We da best
+Krismelo Porthony you smart
+Krismelo Porthony you loyal
I am Muslim I watched this video fully. I don't know how to argue against you
@Syed Ahmed masked arab is saying true...but ur heart will never accept
Syed Ahmed islam is always about justifying your quran and your religion
Are u drunk??? Because only then u can trust people like masked Arab... Dhul qarnain is not Alexander because quran is talking about a person who believes in one God. But Alexander was polytheiest.
I didn't either, but that's okay, it means we've been lied to and should reject this religion, it's hard at first but gets better and better
At least you are modest otherwise a Muslim won't flinch from wasting the time of the opponent.
This man deserves a medal. Brave man, please write your book
He deserves no medal no prize. Here, this video got refuted: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
@@quranpage-4479 multiple mistakes made in that video.
@@quranpage-4479 Stop spamming mindlessly... use your own baseless words so we can all have a laugh.
Primarily it was due to your videos that I left Islam; your research is fantastic and you settle any point beyond an iota of doubt; I wish other Muslims also realise the absurdities of this worn out religion; stay blessed, love from Gulf
The research he made is incomplete. This video was refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
here's a refutation : czcams.com/video/mHrTH2Kz1rA/video.html
@@cyberlink824 video not found
@@quranpage-4479 incomplete refutation
@@quranpage-4479 multiple mistakes made in that video.
Having focused on Christian apologists for much of my life I find it quite fascinating how the Muslim apologists play the same mental games. I am reminded of these quotations:
"Intelligent people only have a certain amount of time (measured in subjective time spent thinking about religion) to become atheists. After a certain point, if you're smart, have spent time thinking about and defending your religion, and still haven't escaped the grip of Dark Side Apologists, the inside of your mind ends up as an MC Escher painting."
Eliezer Yudkowsky
"Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fantasies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing. The child mind accepts and believes them, and only through great pain and perhaps tragedy can he be in after years relieved of them."
Hypatia of Alexandria
Philo Judaeus of Alexandria
exactly !
That last para sums my life
Being atheist for 30 years /from atheist background) I become finally christian. I does not work the way you described.
@Shax Jack Masked Arab and his followers are bunch of liars.... Alexander romance was translated in Arabic in 629 AD and at that time there was no Zulqarnain like story was included in that version. This quranic surah was revealed much before 629 AD and it shows that people copied Zulqarnain event from Quran and added into Alexander romance. Masked Arab debunked.... 😂😂😂
@@upworkqureshi6665 Since only few people were able to read and write at that time this doesn't mean that stories were not yet translated and passed through orally before it finally was written down. Most of the ancient stories we can read today already exists ages before written down.
i found your channel 2 days ago, now i just finished watching all your videos
i can't describe how happy that i found your channel.
Now you finished watching his lies and mistakes. This video was refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
It’s all nonsense
I have been in Quran,hadiths and tafasir lessons my entire life and its so refreshing hearing about something that's not in a slavexmaster genre
(BELIVE IN ME OR IL SMITE U, BUT I STILL LOVE U, BUT IL BURN UR FACE IF U DISOBEY ME, BUT LISTEN TO ME AND LITTLE BOYS WILL FEED U IN PARADISE.)
@Khalid Ibn Alwaleed arab Muslim caliphate East African slave trade.
This video was refuted: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
@@quranpage-4479 how about refute the given comment?
Even though I'm ex Muslim, the stories like gog and Magog and dhul qarnaney are pretty cool 😂
IZZYDELUX / إيزي دياكس same here. I honestly thibk they should make movie out of the story. Quite an imagination
@@espurr1838
La hawla walaa quwwata illaa billah
@@quranpage-4479 prophet muhammed was a false prophet now in the pits of the fire of hell illaa billah
@@jojames6621 "hell" doesn't exist.
@@bezahltersystemtroll5055 it does. Trust me.
The ending was amazing. This sheik says literally: "Dont look into historical facts! Please, or you might fall into dificult questions!" Haha, he is admitting that the historical data completely flies in the face of the Quran and outright proves that Islam can not be true. If Muslims find out about Alexander the Great and all the similarities with him and DhulQarnayn, they have to conclude they are the same guy. If they would then search to find a different historical person, they would never find him and thus conclude that DhulQarnayn must have been a fictional character. A man who ruled the Earth should have been recorded in history, but there isn't anyone that fits the Quranic narrative. It's quite astonishing that the sheik realizes this, but still continues to stay Muslim and even pushes people to stay ignorant.
+Robert De Groot Ikr, he essentially admitted that the Qur'an can't hold up to criticism... I would say "such an idiot" but how many people do you think listened to him and avoided looking into it themselves..?
It is vice versa.. they swop the story belong to Dhul Qarnayn and not Alexander.
I would love it if you did a video about the differences from the shiite and sunni.
here's a refutation: czcams.com/video/mHrTH2Kz1rA/video.html
I love your videos, thanks again for your informative content on Islam.
+Critical Mass You're more than welcome.
Informative? He got refuted here:
czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
@@TheMaskedArabhello, i hope you're fine. Discovered you channel today and no latest contents
How can this only have 12,00 views? It's great stuff!
this channel should have at least 100 times the subs it has
For what? For the lies he spreads? This video was refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Another amazing Video by the masked arab!
Keep it up Bro, at the end of the day, the absolute truth will outshine the darkness that is Islam and Religion in general.
Another incomplete and faulty video, he got refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Man!!!! With the details of your research and fast firing narration, you should be the prophet instead of Muhammad. You are much more believable than that 'prophet'.
He didn't do enough research, see this refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
So, are Muslims trying to say that Cyrus the Great wasn't a pagan? I'm confused. Alexander the Great can't be Dhul-Qarnayn because he was pagan, so what religion do they think Cyrus the Great was? I'm pretty sure he was zoroastrian (or a fire-worshiper as the Quran calls them to make fun of them).
Yasir Qadi, "there are holes in the narrative". "Islamic scholar will question until a point, but western scholars don't have the 'red line' that Muslims do, so they won't accept our traditional answers" (paraphrased). He knows what he is saying is ridiculous.
Funny thing is I watched a documentary about Alexander the Great yesterday and the first thing I remembered while watching this video was that Alexander wanted to travel to the end of the world. Sounds very similar to Dhulrhanein.
+Cedde Rick you're feeling the burn !!
+Pierre Jabbour Berninating the Bourgoise, burninating the oil, burninating waall street in their THATCH ROOF COTTAGES!!
TROGDOR!
muhammad change alexander to zulkarnain and put this fairy tale story in quran
Cedde Rick yeah, I think the Alexander Romance had a big
influence on "religious" thought of the day
Amin - that's very well said, Amin... Alexander is the He-Goat and the Four Headed Leopard with Wings, anyway
9:57 Lol, I'm imagining a bunch of Japanese people at sunrise jumping into the ocean to spend their day underwater to keep from getting sunburns.
Your videos are amazing.
Faulty and incomplete. Here's a refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
The best channel on youtube!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Disagree. This research he did is incomplete and faulty. He got refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Another very interesting video. You are doing a brilliant job exposing these fairytales.
Thanks to the EU critising Islam will be illegal soon
Brilliant job? Rather it's incomplete and faulty job, his video got refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
I used to really admire Yasir Qadhi. What a disappointment.
The disappointment is this video which got refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Your work is invaluable!
Rather, faulty and incomplete. Here's a refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Yet another excellent and informative video from one of the greatest debunkers on CZcams!
Incomplete and faulty video, here's a refutation: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
This is something I previously had no knowledge of, thank you for sharing!
On a more general note; I only recently picked up your videos and coincidentally I had purchased a copy of the Qur'an just before doing so, the better to understand Islam and I have taken great interest in finding the passages you quote in your videos to read along as it were.
Please keep these coming, fascinating stuff. I also thank you for the work you're doing in reaching Arab speaking members of Islam and perhaps leading them to learn more about and thus question their faith.
the people who wrote the story of dhul qarnayn didn't know alexander was a polytheist?
+Bernard Rednix ... There were many positive legends about him and the good he did, and how the gods favored him. The Quran saying he was worshiping Allah is essentially saying "you KNOW Alexander was good and awesome, and guess what! He was good and awesome BECAUSE he worshiped and honored Allah! So, even though you might have thought those other gods were awesome because the awesome Alexander was guided by them, in truth it was actually our god! So don't let doubts about Alexander's beliefs stop you from joining our religion!"
Philo Judaeus of Alexandria LOL,you are a funny guy.you should know islam never exist at the time.the fact that you try to use the quran to make your point is like using batman comics to show how real he is.also im not interested joining your religion when it conflict many of my ideas of human rights.
Bernard Rednix *facepalm* Really? Islam didn't exist in Alexander's time? And are you sure you are not interested in joining Islam?
Philo Judaeus of Alexandria the religion of islam start at the year 610 AD.what does islam view of gay people,transgender people and atheist?you already know the answer,secular humanism is the way and i invite you to embrace science and reason,be an atheist and live a free life.
Bernard Rednix My friend, it is not what Islam thinks, but what god thinks that is important. May Zeus have mercy on you.
Great video, keep it up.
Incomplete and faulty video. He got refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Excellent work! I find it astonishing how much of a cultural impact Hellenism had compared to the cultures of other empires such as the Persians or the Romans. I think its syncretic nature made it highly adaptable to local traditions, a trait that allowed Christianity to excel in Africa and Buddhism in Asia.
I have watched all your videos (those in English) and you just earned a new subscriber.
Thank you for all your hard work. Can't wait to follow this progress.
The Koranic verses in the 'AL KAHF' sura, which talk about Zhulkarnein, begin with the words: "And they ask you about Zhulkarnein..". Meaning that the Jews are asking the Prophet Muhammad about him. This means that this king was KNOWN TO THE JEWS, AND IS MENTIONED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. Alexander the Great is not mentioned in the Old Testament, nor did he have any close relation with the Jews.
living in this part of the ancient world, it would've been practically impossible not to know of ALexander the Great in one way or another
Mr."jay" we know they were Jews because they were other books that mention who were the people that asked the question.
Alexander is mentioned in jewish holy scripture Talmud.
He is considered to be a great man and important figure by jews
Great job once again TMA! Keep 'm coming!
I hope to see another video soon.
Another incomplete video? This video itself got refuted: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
Genuine question here. If a hadith is weak why is it still in the hadith. Shouldn't muslims just keep the sahih hadiths and leave out the Da'if ones. Whats the purpose of keeping weak hadiths ?
They are apologists
love you channel
تثبت المصادر الإسلامية نفسها أن الإسلام دين من صنع الإنسان ، مليء بالتناقضات والأكاذيب المتوقعة من مصدر بشري ، أي شخص مهتم بالحقيقة ، تحقق من مقاطع الفيديو الخاصة بي ودعمها ، شكرًا
Excellent video. The story of Dhul Qarnayn was one of the biggest reasons why after 15 years of living Islam with all my heart, I left Islam eventually.
Lmao you so stupid he Quoting sources written after the Quran under the Islamic caliphate
Very interesting!Your work is much apriciated!By the way,where does the word allah come from?Is there any literature left about pre islamic Arabia?
+Adnan Maruf I've heard it comes from Elohim (originally in the Canaanite religion and then used by the Jews)... It became اللهم in Arabic... But this requires more research on my part.
It's a conjunction of the word, Al Ilah, which means 'the god'. derived from Proto-Semitic 'il'. Hebrew elohim and Eli, and Aramaic alaha/ elaha, all came from this root word.
I heard that the word Allah has something got to do with the 'moon-God'. I am not sure to be honest.
The word Allah was used pre-islamic, the christians and jews called their god, Allah, as opposed to Eloh, which is hebrew. I've read a few articles about arabic mythology, in the Quraysh tribe, the god Hubal was the supreme chief diety, and there was Al-lat, Al-uzza and Manat, who might or might not have been daughters of a creator god they worshipped called Allah.
+Timothy Mostad
Did each God have a specific function? Like one God controlled the sea and another controlled the wind and etc?
Excellent !! I really like watching your videos.
Keep it up
Not excellent and nothing, rather this video is faulty and incomplete, see he got refuted here: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
This channel is extremely valuable I hope that one day my grandchildren will read about the "masked arabs" who rose up to question Islams dominance over their lives.
Excellent work! I look forward to the day when you can do this without a mask.
+The Masked Arab well done video man. I was wondering if you wrote the episode first in English or Arabic?
+Ocelotl Chimalpahin This one I did the English first
The Masked Arab Cool. How well received is the Arabic language one? I wanna assume it gets more kickback.
Ocelotl Chimalpahin You'd be surprised. It depends. The Arabic ones sometimes get a more positive response.
The Masked Arab How about that! anyway thanks for the vid. Came for Alexander stayed for the rest. I'd forgotten that Alexander even got into the Quran, albeit with a new name .
Quick aside, what variety of Arabic do you speak?
Ocelotl Chimalpahin In my videos I speak classical Arabic, so it's a neutral Arabic. For a while Arabs couldn't guess where I was from, but then I was telling people I'm from Iraq when they ask. So at home I speak with my local Iraqi dialect.
Great video. Thank you.
Refutation : Did the Quran really copy Alexander romance?
czcams.com/video/mHrTH2Kz1rA/video.html
@@cyberlink824 Quran copied many things from many places. It has a story from Arabian Nights.
I want to share the video on my social media pages but I have friends and family who will see it and my life would most likely be ruined. I'm am scared to but I am secretly helping my brothers see through this apparent lie that is Islam
Thanks brother, we are born to think and u are doing just that.
Keep it up!
Loving the analysis you've done, the time you put into these videos is very much appreciated!
usually bringing up any sort of alternative perspective (in respect to their own) to my (indian) Muslim family of history brings up a lot of extreme points of view usually backed by sentimental or emotional blackmail. I'm glad that a fellow ex Muslim has been able to portray and articulate these stories with facts. Much respect masked Arab! !!
Muslims will claim that Alexander was a Muslim! Alexander himself claimed that he was son of Zeus (virgin birth).
Sounds awfully familiar to a certain Nazareth individual.
Man, you should win a Nobel Price! Kudos for the Great Work!
Did the Quran copy Alexander romance? Full Refutation :
czcams.com/video/mHrTH2Kz1rA/video.html
Another great video, they really are a learning experience and I admire the amount of time and research you put into each one.
Do you need a free translation to a south east asian language that may help your messages to reach out to millions more viewers?
Absolutely.
I always keep my translation contributions open for this purpose. But you can even take the video and reproduce it with another language in a voice over on your channel if you wish. You can even monetise it.
All that matters to me is the message gets spread as wide as possible.
If you go down the route of submitting translations on this video then let me know in a DM or a Facebook message or something so I know to check it and publish it.
Thanks!
@@TheMaskedArab
Thanks. Your videos are so informative and full of details, backed by rock solid proofs.
03:17 it actually wasn't the largest Empire the world had ever seen at the time, it was smaller than the original height of the Achaemenid Empire about 200 years prior, this is a common mistake because westerners want to create an even greater history for Alexander as if his own accomplishments aren't enough
Hold on. If Dulqunaiyn was a Muslim, that means he was born after Mohammed meaning we would have records somewhere!! ?
Have you ever read the Quran? Prophet Adam, Nuh, Ibrahim, Sulayman, etc all of them are Muslims... But anyways this video was refuted: czcams.com/video/ghvN-QjnoGE/video.html
This was a great and informative video. Thank you
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@@cyberlink824 Stop spamming mindlessly... use your own baseless words so we can all have a laugh.
dude, you work is incredible. its helped me so much in moving further away from Islam. you really need to get your amazing work out there. I know you like to be thorough with your videos, but i feel that if you could make short videos of the same quality, maybe it'll spread the truth to a lot more people. keep up the great work tho, I love your videos!
+Boland Saleh He made you leave islam ? Or had you already left islam before watching his videos
+MovvEE Scarface I had just lost my faith and I came across his work. he really solidified my position.
+Boland Saleh I try my best to keep them as short as I can, but I always anticipate what the critics will say and go on to mention lengthy rebuttals to their apologist whining in advance, not that it does much to help persuade them. I don't target them anyway, I provide the information to those like yourself with any intellectual honesty left in them...
I will take your advice on board and try my best to squeeze them a little tighter!
+The Masked Arab maybe have a 'trailer' or 'teaser' for each video summarising the main ideas...
Boland Saleh Good idea... I'll bear it in mind...
Fantastic.infact I was too close in becoming a Muslim but some parts did reveal that Quran was basically manipulated by Muhammad for his own comfort,,.i was saved from being deceived..
god is not great....The Masked Arab is great!!!!!, our Hitch is gone, but we still have humans like you with logic, common sense, reason and objectivity. please keep up exposing the slamic mythology, for the sake of our planet and humanity. love your work. a big atheist hug to you and thank you for your time.
GOD IS THE GREATER ALWAYS
I love your videos! Please don't stop them!
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I was the 666th person to watch this video. I am the anti-christ. How comes poeple still don´t see that?
Brilliant and well-sourced video.
Alexander the Great believed in the Twelve Olympians but he also knew about the triune god that Christianity is teaching us because of Hermes the Trismegistus. Hermes the Trismegistus lived somewhere in the 9.000 b.C some people say that Hermes the Trismegistus was Thoth the Atlantean, well everything that Christianity teaches us are being taken from the Emerald Tablets, the library of the vatican the Mount Athos and the nato control and have all the books with the knowledge that Alexander the Great left in one of his libraries in one of the cities of Alexandreia. this is why the library of the vatican the its doors closed to the crowds!!!
Stop with the pseudo-history it gets you nowhere.
You need to do more research,,,,the Vatican corrupted the true GOD GIVEN BIBLE....starting from king Constantine mixing Christianity with paganism in 321 ad (hence the beginning of Sunday worship) .....thus transgressing the 4th commandment concerning the Sabbath day keeping (Saturday)....
Very well researched argument. I agree with the conclusion
Wow the Proskynesis is especially uncanny to the Salat movements! Even down to the majority practice of the Qabd or folding hands over the chest (for much of my time as a Muslim, I followed the Maliki madhhab so did the Sadl or hands to the sides). And notice that 5th movement, which we can connect to the well-known hadith where Muhammad advised Muslims NOT to pray with their arms on the ground like dogs (but rather with the hands prostrating while the elbows are upturned from off the ground), while the 6th movement was specifically made "haram" by the hadith where Muhammad identified laying on the stomach as a sign of "shaitan". Connect this small difference to the other hadith where he specifically said to grow out the beards but keep the moustaches short contrary to the Persian practice, and we see a conscious effort to be different from the Persians even while borrowing from Zoroastrianism...deceptively covering one's tracks, as it were! And this connection of Proskynesis and Salat is even more clear when we see the alleged Night Journey is almost entirely a plagiarism of earlier Zoroastrian texts.
Great points!
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Always great to see a new video from the current most important atheist on CZcams!
I made it to all 4. In last 2 to 3 hours... Amazing research and hard work. My first eyebrow over Islam was raised reading the translation of Sura kahaf as arabic is not my primary language... Bravo for such hard work and putting effort...
Kamran Ahmed qurbani kurd bm 😂
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The Masked Arab, I have two questions:
1: Would you ever consider doing a Q&A video? I feel that this may be useful for your subscribers or even practising Muslims to ask any questions about the religion (anonymously if they wish) or just general views on things (within reason and provided your identity isn't compromised of course). It could help those still in the religion to see questions they haven't wanted to ask being answered.
2: Any more 'a conversation with' collaborations coming? I appreciate this must all take up a lot of your time.
Thanks for the videos and keep up the good work, 10/10 content every time.
+beorma 1 - I have considered this. It's often tricky finding the right time where I'm free from interruptions to do that though.
2 - None planned
Sir...I can't even tell you in words how wonderful you and your channel are.
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I love your videos, they should get much more attention!
Your own source, the Tafsir shows differentiation. The Myth states his father claimed he would rule "the whole world" whilst the Tafsir states "He had dominion over east and west- all countries and kings submitted to him and all the nations, Arab and non Arab- served him". Nothing is stated about the "Whole world". He ruled Arab and Non Arab countries and he had dominion East and West (Europe/Asia). So he did actually have the dominion according to the context of his dominion- not the entire world, which is not mentioned in the tafsir.
Muhammad himself never once claimed that Alexander the Great was Dhul Qarnayn, this was the opinion of Ibn Ishaq- who made the link via a "story teller". Hence this idea spread further and later on with other Islamic scholars and commentators all of whom concluded this based on the speculation of Ibn Ishaq - who thought this a century after Muhammad.
+ramio1983
Here are some insights
Since the story itself is supposedly a "myth" ; I think we can apply the same logic with another story plagiarized like 3 times in our history and made to fit in people’s own religions and background and that is the ark of Noah .
However not because it is "plagiarized" means it is necessarily a "myth" or that it has no truth to it, I argue that one should expect a story well known and very famous to all people to be so very easily stolen .
Because the Qur’an says about the ark
29:15
فَأَنْجَيْنَاهُ وَأَصْحَابَ السَّفِينَةِ وَجَعَلْنَاهَا آيَةً لِلْعَالَمِينَ
So We’ve saved the ones of the ship and We’ve made it a sign for the worlds i.e all nations/ basically everybody .
So we would expect that people would play around with it and have it fit with their cultures and beliefs, so why can’t we apply the same logic here ? I mean it is not like this is the first time ever people plagiarize an epic story and attribute it to a figure they themselves admire .
What do you think ?! :)
Ahmed Hassan The issue with this story is unlike most other stories in the Quran which carry with it a moral lesson on patience, virtue, belief, prayer or alms we find the story of Dhul Qarnayn linked to Gog and Magog, which as it appears is meant to be a literal take on the end times. This is problematic and i am a Muslim that is very open minded. So unless these "creatures" are underground it causes an issue with a strictly literal reading.
The thing is with the story of Dhul Qarnayn is that its "character" is simply guess work by a questionable historian of Muhammad and that is Ibn Ishaq. He has many questionable and doubtful stories about Muhammad and his commentary on Surah 18 claims that Dhul Qarnayn is Alexander the Great- he makes that assumption based on a story teller who simply had the idea it was Alexander.
Ibn Ishaq placed that opinion in his works and most other Islamic scholars and commentators that came AFTER Ibn Ishaq agreed with this "understanding"- despite Muhammad never indicating this character is Alexander.
This to me highlights that scholars and commentators took the earliest commentary of the Quran from the Sira of Ibn Ishaq in regards to the character of Dhul Qarnayn and mostly agreed with it. Yet most Muslims today know that Ibn Ishaq was famous for his fables and unreliable tales taken from many adversaries of the Prophet and Muslims, hence i think its safe to say from a scholarly perspective we might have a case of mistaken identity. :)
+ramio1983
A case of mistaken identity, that’s exactly what I’m getting at by using the ark of Noah as a demonstration, it was attributed to other characters, only difference is that we know who was the guy, Noah, we don’t know the name of the one with the two horns and we don’t have much of any background information about him as a person which doesn’t quite matter .
I am one of your subscribers and very much love your informative vids about Islam and when you tackle people like Klingschor and just generally, thanks a lot :)
Ahmed Hassan I see your point, thank you so much. To me the character of Dhul Qarnayn is mysterious. There is nothing wrong with attempting to "seek" who the man is but at the same time guesswork could be wrong. Thank you for your kind comments. Klingschor and i have come to a deal, he has deleted all of his videos dealing with me and he will be closing his Klingschor account because his views have changed. I have agreed to delete all of my videos of him too. So if theres any information that stood out you'd like to save, now is the time before it all goes.
+ramio1983
I totally agree :)
I have been wondering were are the videos in which he addresses you like your response to Islam allows rape, I would have been very interested to see how he used to argue as compared to recently, thanks for clearing that and thanks for the heads up, I so much enjoy your interactions as you seem to have a really beautiful relationship....no homo :p :D
Will miss him though.....
Thanks for everything brother :)
Good vid looking forward 2 next 1 keep the good work coming
Yasr Qadi is the new Highest Prophet, second only to Allah:
He is the second best of decievers.
I discovered you via SyeTenAtheist's animation, watched several of your videos and found them highly insightful, and intelligently delivered. Happy to subscribe and looking forward to checking out the rest of your work, past and future.
+Sully Bongish Thanks!
Another excellent video, please share it with your muslim friends, you may rescue them of the dogma they are in!
Fantastic research. Hope this message finds you well all these years later and you are still thriving.
Islam took lot from Hinduism and jorastianism, Christianity and also from jewism, quran is cehesh-kabab, falafel,mix,
There are apparently two personalities in history before Islam who were great conquerors and ruled over vast empires as mentioned by Qur’an. These were Alexander the Greek conqueror and Cyrus the Persian conqueror. As far as Alexander is concerned the extent of his expeditions was towards the east and south, whereas Qur’an mentions Zulqarnain’s expeditions towards west, east and a third direction. Secondly when Qur’an talks about Zulqarnain, it shows him as a person believing in one God and the hereafter. He is also depicted as a kindhearted and just ruler. Now it is known about Alexander that he was a polytheist and no incidents of his kindness and justice are explicitly recorded in history. But as far as Cyrus is concerned we find out that the extent of his expeditions was towards west, east and north that is, after becoming the king of Persia, Cyrus went on different expeditions, ultimately conquering almost eighty percent of the civilized world at that time. He became the king of this vast empire stretching from Lydia (west) to India (east) and Bactria (north) to Babylon (south). Secondly history has explicitly recorded incidents of Cyrus’s extreme kindness and justice towards his subjects. In fact, these traits of his personality were so conspicuous that friend and foe equally acknowledged this fact. As regards Cyrus’s religion, he was a believer in Zoroastrianism, a new religion at that time, which existed with all its purity and spirit. The prophet Zoroaster who was probably contemporary to Cyrus preached belief in one God, the hereafter and all other basic good deeds that form a part of Divine religions. This answers our first question, showing that Cyrus comes very close to the narrative of the Qur’an. Now the second question will be answered in the light of the first.
As far as Alexander is concerned, there is no mention of him in the history of either the Quraish or the Jews and Christians in any manner which makes him significant for either of these groups. But as far as Cyrus is concerned we find out that though he had no significance for Quraish and Christians but Jews had a very special importance for him in their history. What was this importance of Cyrus for Jews? Anyone who is familiar with the Jewish history knows that the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar conquered the kingdom of Judea in sixth century B.C and the Jews were taken to Babylon as captives. The temple of Jerusalem was plundered and desecrated. From then onwards the Jews remained in Babylon as captives for seventy years. During this time the Prophet Daniel was appointed in Jews. He was the Prophet who at one time, after receiving revelation from God in a dream, announced the coming of a savior of Jews-the one who would release them from the captivity of the Babylonians. In that dream the Prophet Daniel saw this savior as a ram with two horns (Zulqarnain-one with two horns) (Daniel 8:1-4). The two horns metaphorically showed the two kingdoms of Media and Persia united and ram depicting the savior himself showed him to be the conqueror and king of this united kingdom. This king was Cyrus. He was the one who afterwards conquered the Babylonian kingdom and released the Jews from captivity and allowed them to go back to their homeland and build the temple. It was because of these reasons that Jews held him in very high esteem and considered him as their savior as predicted by the Prophet Daniel. Apart from Prophet Daniel, Prophet Isaiah and Jermiah also foretold the destruction of Jerusalem, captivity of Jews and then release with the coming of Cyrus as the savior (Isaiah 44:26-28, 45:1-3) (Jermiah 50:1-3, 29:11). With this explanation it becomes clear that Jews had great regard for the Persian king Cyrus. This answers our second question that out of the three main groups who were the direct addressees of Qur’an-Quraish, Jews, Christians-Jews had a personality in their history who fits the description of Zulqarnain and they had great regard for him. This personality (Cyrus) happens to be the same, which we have alluded to, in the first question. This discussion makes it clear that Cyrus comes very close to the Zulqarnain of Qur’an.
you cant translate the quran to english properly! isis dont represent muslims!
nah im just kiddin haha .. great video bro! soo um are you an atheist? or agnostic?
+Avarian The two are not mutually exclusive, atheism refers to belief, agnosticism refers to knowledge. An atheist is anyone who does not believe in a deity but they can also be an agnostic in not claiming to know for certain that there is no deity.
I am a gnostic atheist regarding the Abrahamic God, though, because there are so many inconsistencies, contradictions etc. in the Torah, Bible and Qur'an that I can confidently state that I know 'he' does not exist as described in these texts.
However I cannot logically dismiss the possibility of some god-like higher intelligence or similar existing, so I am agnostic when it comes to that very vague definition.
I too would be interested to hear The Masked Arab's stance on this question but it is not quite so clear cut as atheist or agnostic.
+Rifleman Moore I would agree with your position. I'm also as certain as you can be that the Abrahamic religions are nonsense. When it comes to potentially talking about a deistic God. I'd say that probability diminishes more the more I see how poor the argument for existence of said deity is, but it's not entirely ruled out. Probably less than 5 percent.. maybe less than 1 percent at this stage for a deistic God
great responses. +2
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Really astounding and impressive how high-quality your work is. Keep up the great work!
Only god knows XD
i m no longer muslim now.. thank u so much
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Yay!
I have waited for when you would made a video on Alexander xD
it definitely could not be Cyrus the Great for he let the Jews back into Babylon.
I read something even in the Shia Imam Ali's Hadith about Zulqarnain about the horns of the east and west. Go figure, it was nothing more than local folklore
If you non-arabic speakers go on reading the comments at his arabic version, you'll end up voting for Trump without any hesitation.
Really love your videos. You are doing such great and important work. I have seen many of your videos and learned a lot from you.
WOW...never been this shocked in my whole life ...muhummad knew how to manupilate
Out of all the known major kings, it's probably Cyrus the Great. He was a generous ruler and known to patron grand structures and defence walls, and his empire stretched quite far east, so it's likely he also helped build this defence wall. He's also highly praised by the Jews of then as well calling him their liberator.
+MovvEE Scarface where is this defence wall? I want to go there [In shaa Allah]
+MovvEE Scarface Answer me please, where is the wall of dhul qarnayn? I wanna go there. JazakAllah
+MovvEE Scarface sorry brother I'm not trolling but seriously where is this wall I want to see it if it's possible because most people just say "Allahu Alam" when it comes to this topic but you seem like you know these things so do tell. JZK
Imam Mahdi what wall
MovvEE Scarface The wall that's holding Gog and Magog. I want to know where it is and you seem to know so please tell me yaar.
will you take me as your student?
I was wondering what sort of moral teachings we are supposed to gather from this chapter, none it would seem.
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