.40 s&w VS 357 sig (Underwood Ammo Test) in Ballistics Gel
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Glock 27 .40 s&w
Glock 33 357 sig
Underwood Ammo Test: .40 s&w 135g Nosler & 357 sig 124gr Nosler
Ballistics Gel Test
Short Barrel/ Sub Compact
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Thx so much for giving the .40 cal and the .357 sig these tests! These calibers are ignored by so many gun channels, it is great that you break this pattern and examine their performance fairly!
Not ignored by everyone!!! 😉😉😉😉😉😉
Thank you so much, I appreciate u checkin em out!! I'm glad u enjoy em. And absolutely, they are definitely two of my favorites to test, always fun. Thanks again my friend!! Plenty comin😁.
I carry the .357sig round in my g31 EDC, but that .40 was moving. When i do carry .40 i use the 150gr nosler from underwood. People have kinda forgot how good .357sig and .40 actually are. Everything you see these days are 9mm, im not knocking 9mm, i have a g17 and g34 that are great guns. But for self defense, i prefer the velocity and foot pounds of .357sig. Thanks for another great video, and wishing you a wonderful day.....
Yeah I hear ya, everyone and there mother are all 9mm fans. I like em all, I have 4er5 myself but like u said there are definitely better options. I should be testing that 150gr .40 soon.. Thanks as always my friend, always appreciate u checkin em out!! You have a great day as well!! Plenty comin😁.
Most firearms channels make 9mm content. The early arguments were the .357 Sig and .40 S&W had too much pressure causing firearms to fail prematurely, and next arguments are they say the 9mm +p+ matches the .357 Sig (not true).
Lol I hear ya, I have tons of tests on the channel that prove that very thing😄. Those are some of my favorite to test, because I get/see so many ppl saying that +p+ is the same thing (power wise). I like to show that's just not true lol. Sigs on a whole different level😁. Thanks for checkin this one out buddy, I appreciate ya!!
40 S&W has 35,000 psi. That is standard pressure of 9mm. 9mm +p and +p+ has more pressure than 40 S&W.
357sig for the win once again. I love both calibers but the 357sig is the one I count on daily. The the results in the gel and real world shoots are why, it is a proven immediate man stopper
The 357 Sig is the best most versatile SD handgun ever made, just that simple!
💪💯 I hear ya, love em both too but man there's just some about that sig that I can't get over lol. One nasty caliber and round for sure. Thank you for checkin this one out, I appreciate ya!!
Being a 357 Sig guy, I really like your testing.
Thank you very much I appreciate that!! Glad u enjoy the tests😁.
Good video thanks. I carry 40, perfectly happy with its ballistic.
Thank you sir, I appreciate u checkin it out!! Plenty comin😁.
Man!!! I’m at work and had to watch this!!!! The .40 S&W and the 357 Sig are very much in the same power category as they should be. Same parent cartridge and same case capacity! Underwood, Buffalo Bore and Double Tap are giving you what you pay for!!!! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
💪Heck yeah lol, thank you!! I appreciate u taking the time to check it out. Was definitely a fun one to do, and both performed great. Thanks again buddy!! Plenty comin😁.
Thanks for a great video. I shoot the Glock 17, Glock 22 and the Glock 31 (all on the same G22 frame). Enjoy them all. My carry is 9mm. Ex LEO
@@billmurrell6979 Thank you sir I appreciate u taking the time to check it out!! Also thank u for ur service!! Great choice on carry, can't go wrong with any of em.
Thanks AZ ! Hope all is well, Really good comparison. that .40 is moving pretty good in that small package, but of course .357 for me always
Thank you buddy!! All great here, finally got some decent weather to get some testing done, so happy for that. Was a fun day. I hear ya though, love some .40 but man that sig is just a whole nother story. Thanks you for checkin this one out my friend!! Plenty comin😁.
Another good test! I wouldn't feel bad carrying either one, although I won't be giving up my 10mm anytime soon! That 357 Sig does impress however, every time I see another gel test!
Cheers,
jc
Thank you sir, I appreciate that!! Love 10mm too. I'll be getting a g29 soon so we can have a short barrel on the channel along with our full size for some testing. Should be fun. So we should have a bunch of 10mil coming up for ya. Thanks again buddy!! Plenty comin😁.
Welllll... "full size" depending on how you look at it! I bought one of those Lone Wolf 9" barrels for my Glock 40 and even an old fart like me thinks it looks cool with my el-cheapo (but it works!) 30 round mag! I believe the 115 gr. Lehigh Xtreme Defender was moving at 1825 fps or so out of it!
Cheers,
jc
best ammo tester on YT now
the stampede to 9x19 and the overuse of clear ballistics gel are bad for the gun world.
these tests illustrate just how superior the .40 and .357S are vs 9mm in performance
💪💯 Thanks as always buddy I appreciate ya!! I try to do very minimal 9mm testing because of that. It's a great caliber and all but I know everyone and there mother is testing and observing over it. So like to change things up a bit and love .40 and 357 sig too lol. Thanks again my friend!! Plenty comin😁.
Thanks for the great test! I'm a 357 SIG enthusiast, but I would not hesitate to carry a 40. Those velocities are amazing out of such short barrels.
Thank you I appreciate u checkin it out!! Same here, that 40 is definitely pushing some pretty impressive velocities. Can't complain. Both are nasty rounds for sure!! Thanks again buddy!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
Both did really well... I might consider a 5 gen 27... I like my 5 gen 22 model with its thicker slide it kicks a lot less... Another Great Video, great composition, both did great...
💪💯. Thank you sir I appreciate ya very much!! That would definitely be a fun one to get. Lemme know if u end up with it.
The 357 Sig bullet held together better and penetrated deeper because it is a medium weight for caliber bullet whereas the 135gr .40 is a very light for caliber round. Both would likely get the job done but the 357 Sig is also better at barrier penetration. For overall performance the 357 wins but if I were carrying a .40 I would load with this 135gr round.
Love the .357 test. No fond of the Nosler’s. They break apart too much for my taste. Which is why I stopped buying Underwood. I use Gold Dot’s or HST’s. And XTP’s if the price is right. Keep up the good work!❤
Thank you sir!! Same here, I love anything 357 sig lol. The GD & HST are both great choices and some of my favorites as well. I have a XTP test coming soon😁. Thanks again I appreciate u checkin this one out. Plenty comin😁.
only issue w hst and gold dot is that their 180gr .40 is underloaded as fuck. i can reach 380-400 ft lbs out of my 9. but their 165s aren’t bad, underwood’s ammo is just way hotter
Ya’d think there would be a bigger velocity difference with the SIG being 10gr lighter and better G1. Impressive performance for the .40 definitely on the ragged edge. This 135gr is turning the ballistic world upside down. Can you do a test between 65 and 90gr XD in the 357S short barrel vs the .40. Dare I say those results might be interesting.
Yessir, I can make that happen. I don't have any .40 xd's yet but I will pick some up soon. Should be a fun one. Thanks buddy!!
Thanks for this comparison. I have both of these Glocks in gen 4. I carry one while walking my dog early morning (lots of unfriendly critters before dawn) and the other when AZ weather gets too hot to conceal a full size gun. Both are loaded with Underwood. Perfect test! Thanks again.
Both were devastating. Great video
💪💯. Thank you buddy, I appreciate ya!!
They are both excellent for their intended purpose. They always have been. It’s funny how public opinion ebbs and flows based on inaccurate, but very vocal, opinions and little to no evidence. Thanks for the video
This 1 and 2 other channels is my favorite.
Since you are about the only person still testing 357 Sig ammunition-thank you 🙏. I have 2 questions, if I may: How does the recoil compare between the .40 and 357 Sig with this ammunition? And do you prefer this ammunition or the Federal HST for 357 Sig? Thank you 🙏
Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out!! The 357 sig definitely had more recoil, manageable, but I could feel a difference. You can see it in the slow mo. The sig had a lil more muzzle flip than the .40. Even with other ammo I usually get a bit more muzzle rise/flip with the 357 sig. Personally, the HST is my favorite for the sig, I do really like this 124gr also. It's definitely a tough decision, they both do great in there own way. My favorites for sig are hst, this 124gr nosler and the ranger t. I like em all but these would be my top picks. Thanks again buddy!! Plenty comin😁.
Never saw a video from your channel that didn't impress me! Great channel, thxs!!
Thank you very much I really appreciate that!! Glad u enjoy the channel😁. Thank you again my friend!! Plenty comin😁.
Both are very, very impressive and are no doubt very effective if/when needed. It is interesting how the 357 Sig seems to have the advantage based on results in spite of 40 have 10 grain more mass and larger diameter at the same velocities. I prefer 155-165 in my 40 but I wouldn't be afraid to carry this. Thank you.
Thank you buddy!! I agree, I like the middle weights as well. I was pretty surprised too. Was definitely expecting that .40 to do a lil more but wow, those velocities are no joke out of that shorty barrel. Was a fun one for sure. Thanks as always my friend!!
The 135gr .40 is very light for that caliber which negates any size advantages. If a .40 caliber 165gr round had a 1400 fps velocity it would be superior to the 357 Sig, but that would require 10mm power.
I have that exact same underwood 40 cal 135 grain bullet but in a glock 23. Thanks for this video. I know now what that round will do. I bought it because it is an Underwood and it is a H.P. and it is listed at 1400 FPS. Thanks for the video.
Thank you buddy, I appreciate u checkin it out!! Great choice, it's definitely a nasty round.
The 357 is always going to penetrate more than a 40 because it’s a smaller diameter round, it’s a matter of physics, the larger diameter, the more resistance and drag the round receives in the ballistic gel. That’s why even a 22 round would penetrate more than a 357. But everyone gets caught up with penetration in gelatin, when the ft/lbs of energy is what’s more important in stopping a threat. And no doubt the 357 is a fine round, but by your own admission, you shot low when firing the 40 which caused it to hit the table and prevent it from penetrating the ballistic gel as much as it could have. You should have immediately corrected that mistake by taking a second more accurate shot for a proper comparison.
Great show and information. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much I appreciate u checkin it out!! Glad u enjoyed it!! Are u still getting that channel going?? Lmk how it goes.
I did start a channel which goes under a different name. It's a little hokey but most people say it is getting better slowly video by video. Can I share the name of the channel?
@@southernPacificRR Yessir, would like to check it out!!
You got it. Be prepared to be unimpressed. EDC ballistics, a channel that is definitely a work in progress.
Excellent test as usual, Az
Thank you buddy I appreciate it!!
The hydrostatic shock of the 357 Sig is impressive.
Good show.
Thank you buddy, I appreciate u takin the time to check it out!! Plenty on the way😁👍.
I appreciate the comparison!
Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out!!
Great test vid! I dragged my M&p shield 40 out the other day, haven’t shot it in several years, and had a great new appreciation for rear pistol. Yeah, it only holds 6+1 with flush mag (I’m buying a Pearce +1 so it’ll go to 7+1) and it’s the same size as my G 43! I’m liking the thought of 7+1 40 s&w. 😎
I stopped in the high Nevada desert today and let go a few mags in my Sd40.. It's my cheapest pistol. First mag of federal 180s were getting hung up (I've been truck camping in winter conditions up to the border of Canada). The last mag fed well. I was suprised how much my shit got jammed. Maybe the wet to freeze in my camping situation. I don't have a question. Your vids are great man. Thx for doing the work for us!
A test that includes 40 s&w.... I'm subd. Appreciate the good uploads. I carry 40, love the sig and appreciate the honest reviews.
Thank you very much I appreciate the support!! Same here, love em both, both awesome calibers and nasty rounds for sure. Thanks again, I appreciate u checkin this one out!! Plenty comin😁.
Lets get on the gun makers to give us these pretty 2011s in 357sig, 40s&w, 45super and 38super. No reason a guys cant have options
Surprised that the 357 Sig did better in this comparison when the 40 had more energy. Guess the diameter makes the difference.
Yeah was pretty surprised myself. Those 124s for that sig are nasty though, every test I've done I have been very impressed.
Keep in mind that while both of these rounds imparted very similar cavitational results .... the energy measured [prior] to impact, means little when compared to the energy deposition that is transferred [during] impact.
@hopebrowning6300 I’ve seen Paul’s meat target test and 357 Sig always seems to prevail over 40 S&W when he does them.
357 Sig is a great round
Nice ...
Thank you buddy!!
@@AzAirgunner. Im out here in Scottsdale area.. was wondering what area do you recommend to go shooting at ? Any advice is appreciated..
@@tonyg1443 Email me bro, AzAirgunner357@gmail.com I'll let u know the spot I go to.
Your work on all of this is excellent. My personal suspicion is the best 40 Goldielocks of the Underwood line up might be the 150 grain Nosler. The 150 has a higher sectional density over the 135 while at the same time it is light enough to still have that Underwood considerable velocity. I suspect the 150 Nosler will have rapid and wide expansion with some fragmentation and penetration 12ish/13ish. An Underwood review of the 40 135 Nosler vs the 40 150 Nosler VS the 40 155 XTP might be interesting. My suspicion is the Underwood 40 150 comes out the logical choice of the Underwood 40s.
underwood loads their 180s hot too. been thinking about grabbing some, but rn it’s HST 165gr for me
What sucks is Federal canceled the 165 40 HST. @@acid6urns
I think the 357 SIG bullet had more drag because 357 SIG original weight is 125 grains and the twist ratio works best with the original 125 grain weight. That would mean the 347 SIG with something about 4.5 inch and 125 grains is even better than other barrels even the energy numbers are same. At least 40 cal is a subsonic round and barell twist is for his usuall 180 grains bullets. It must be that way.....
I carry the .357 Sig.
Thanks for the short barrels!
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If the 40 wouldnt curve down it would have made it also into the second block. To me these 135gr loads are totally compareable to the 357 sig.
Another great show with the good stuff..hot stuff..
Thank you sir, always appreciate u checkin em out!! Was a fun one.
Wasn’t sure if saw my questions from yesterday
Could you please show US how you make your gel and how much it cost please!
Can we see a Glock 23 4 inch barrel or Glock 35 5.3 inch barrel with the underwood 135 hollow? I would we would the g23 energy be 610 and the g35 energy be close to 700
Both had great results 357 SIG is underrated and performs good from short barrels 40 did well to both would be extremely effective
💪💯. Thanks for checkin it out!!
Can't loose with either round...
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Since the g27 energy was 589…. Do you think the g23 energy would be over 600?
Yes
Is it me or can yall hear the tears of the 9mm ninjas flowing? All we hear is 9mm matches all other pistol rounds effectiveness. NO HELL it dont just look to the results. Good info
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Could you try the 180gr nosler one day that’s what I carry I’d like to see results in gel I try to stay away from the light stuff
Yessir, I can make that happen. I'll pick some up soon for a test. Thanks for checkin this one out!!
Thanks man we all enjoy and appreciate your videos
@@sluggfaro7658 Thank you very much!! I appreciate all the support I get from u guys!! Makes it all worth while.
Not a reason to not carry a sub compact. Nice video cuz.
Thank bro!!
Nice test bro! Seeing this Honestly both of these calibers have quite a bit more stopping power than 9mm hands down which is better for 4 legged critters. But for human beings a good 9mm load standard or +P would be more than enough i actually load the underwood 115 Grain +P in my M&P shield for EDC. Keep the good vids rolling sir 👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks bro I appreciate that a lot!! Glad ur enjoying em. That's definitely a great choice for carry, can't go wrong with anything UW. Plenty on the way my friend😁👍.
Some people would say 22 lr is more than enough. Others may say 357 mag is perfect. Even still, some may say running +P ammo is unnecessary and adding unnecessary wear and recoil.
Another tremendous demonstration by AZ Airgunner! Thank you for all your test that people actual want! We appreciate your time, effort and expense that go into these presentations.
Thank you very much!! I really enjoy the feedback and making and sharing the videos with u all, also I really appreciate all the support I get from u guys, makes it all worth while. Thanks again my friend!! Plenty comin😁.