Liverpool: My City, My People, My Heart (breaks) | Episode 79
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
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Thank you for 60+ minutes of none sensational common sense and humanity. From a big fan of this show
Well done Robbo and Copey. Well said - from the heart. Love you guys ❤
Just well done to both of you fellas for an amazing show. Honestly, this is award winning stuff. The decency, tact and nuance in how you analyse situations is what makes me always tune into your shows. Love you fellas
I’m from California and had no idea about these events, but I’m so grateful that you guys acknowledged and spoke on these things. I’ve never been to Liverpool, but the spirit of the city, the love of the club, and the fight of the people has always been an inspiration for me and I take great pride in being a “member” of the community precisely for these sentiments here. It’s bigger than football, much love! 🙏🏾
WHAT AN INTRODUCTION. Bravo Robbo 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Gareth, you have always spoken brilliantly.
Well said lads. Yes it broke my heart seeing what transpired in my city. Genuinely broke me. Thanks for speaking on it ❤
Well said lad. I lived in Liverpool back in the 70 s. Still love the place and the people
Grim. A must listen. Appreciate the effort and passion you put into preparing for that
Been spending time in Liverpool for the games and week long breaks since I was 8, I'm now 36 and Liverpool is my favourite city in the world, no words for what's happened there.
Absolutely superb guys. I hope this gets shared across the UK. I'm going to watch it again now. Well done!
The Tories didn't want to fix this issue. This is caused by environmental/social issues which allows certain groups to use the situation to their own gain. More divide and conquer,
I'm well behind on your podcasts due to holidays so only just caught up on this. It was really insightful stuff and the points you both raised were absolutely spot on. Brilliant episode.
Superb opening monologue Gareth.
Whilst it’s a horrendous subject matter you fellas are covering, you did it brilliantly.
I’ve been telling my missus (from Slovakia) how different Liverpool is to the rest of the country and it has been easy for her to see and hear just that.
However, this week, I have found myself avoiding the news as I felt a huge sense of shame and was trying to ‘hide’ the news from my wife and close friends over here.
Both of you speak brilliantly on this.
I love the podcast, I'm adjunct faculty in America. THERE ARE GOOD TEACHERS. I don't think we can just blame education, or a specific societal issue. Get the politicians out that prioriitise hate over social programs. Call those family members out who perpetuate racism.
It's not that there aren't good teachers (I'm a teacher as well btw), it's that the system itself is not fit for purpose.
Usually add a wry comment after TLC podcast. Not today. Brilliantly articulate, thoughtful, sincere, erudite. Most important edition to date.
Thanks for how thoughtfully you put this together. Every word you both said is spot on. Hoping that peace and tolerance quickly returns to the city we all love and are normally so proud of.
I'm from Liverpool but now live in Belfast; both places having been torn apart by rioting. And I'm just lost for words over the whole ordeal. Stay strong, everyone. Stay safe. Look out for each other.
well said,
You mean the place that is now holding Irish and Ulster flags together in the street because of this issue?
Is right James
@@user-bq3oz6pb1t Yeah, the Republic has fasicst agitators too. They were drinking in a UVF bar before the riots. What of it?
Yeah- Stay safe…. From non-assimilators trying to stab your kids in dance class 🫡
Why can two blokes from Liverpool ask all the right questions about Southport & all the other questions we should be asking when every organisation that call themselves 'media' are just doing sound bites & voyeurism. Boys an amazing podcast
I’m from Australia and every time I’ve been to Liverpool (3 times), I’ve always had a sensational time and it’s my favourite city in all of England. Obviously what’s happened of late it’s extremely upsetting and my heart goes out to the families of the children that were taken. I hope that sanity prevails and the rioting and everything stops.
Thank you for such a heartfelt and honest show. We live in the US and visited Liverpool a year ago and are so sad for what you are experiencing. Here in the US many have become almost numb to the "Sacrifice" of young children at the hands of mentally ill people with guns that belong on the war field and politicians unwilling to do anything significant about it. Thanks for your insightful questions and comments.
Great show lads, I've just shared this with my brother in Norwich. This needs to be passed around so some people can give their head a wobble.
@@DarMokChannel not true about Tommy Robinson tho sick of the lad getting called far right and racist he’s tried to stop all this happening on our streets he warned the government over 10 years ago and hasn’t stopped warning them because they simply counted on the refugees vote so fooked up
Same thing happened in Dublin last yr lads..when 3 kids & their teacher was seriously hurt in a stabbing..thank god they were ok..but ppl just lost the plot..
It’s something thats been boiling for so long..ppl feel they aren’t being listened to when it comes to issues of mass immigration..especially in Ireland i don’t now much bout the uk, but they (ones in power) are putting 500-1000 males into working class urban areas or small country villages without consulting with the local communities..literally changing the face of these areas overnight with ppl that have came here with no documentation and look ..its actually horrible to be putting these ppl into tents in fucking feilds so there a human rights issue to all this too..
Did what happen in the uk go wayyyy beyond what was needed or why they were protesting in the beginning for ..yes of course it did & it should be condemned at every corner..but we can’t call out these riots if we didn’t say fuck all in 2020 when BLM rioted ppl involved in both riots should be called out for the absolute wrong uns that they are !
I feel things willl get alot worse in uk before anything gets better..Ireland doesn’t have as much of a democratic difference than the uk does & I fear it will get very tribal over there very quickly which is sad to see!
Great listen lads and tough topic to talk about but yous did it justice..
Also think the reds are going cook this year ..UP THE REDS!!
What's the lyrics of Soggy dew ? again, escaped Slavery by dying, the local Sud El Bur and English (means Roman Slaver siding tribes, that all fled to England When Rome Fell , to escape reprisals, This would not happen in England Because the Roman Slavers and totally wiped them all out , that's why When the Anglo Saxon Roman Slaver siding scum invaded England they pushed all the Welch (Welch means slave in Anglo Saxon) to the West or into Eire ) Long Range guns
You get the jist , you cant just ignore the bits of reality you don't like
When you gave up your Oral Druidic Culture (St Patrick pushing the snakes out) under pressure , you just became other slaves , Slaves from all over the world and those English slavers are the last to care , but first to moan when things they caused to happen, happen to them
This is one of the best conversations I've heard since the day of the murders/riots. Ynwa
It's not the colour of your skin, it's the flavour within.
Just be sound to one another
I've watched other commentaries on the riots. Several people chose to bang on about the young man being the incarnation of evil. I've read loads of articles in independent news outlets. Gareth's extended view of the events is probably the best I've seen/heard/read. In particular the point about compassion/empathy and not rushing to judgment of the young lad who killed and injured people, was well made. His point that we know nothing about his background and what drove him to do what he did was excellent. I've been thinking about this and remembered a young Somali lad from many decades ago. He had been kidnapped when young and forced to work as a child soldier doing and witnessing that on adults should have to do/see. He was clearly mentally unhinged and barely holding it together. He wasn't violent, but was damaged by those early experiences. Rwanda is led by and autocrat, who does not tolerate any opposition and has those who stand against him or criticise his government abducted and killed. Former government ministers told us that Rwanda is a beacon of democracy. This is not the view of organisations like Amnesty International. Our government has given millions to Kagame for this Rwanda deportation scheme,
There are so many more levels to this that we are all worried about
Cheers fella’s, glad to hear that there’s still some sanity in the world of social media.
I’d love to see the stories about the surgeon from Indian heritage that saved the life of a grandmother, mother, sister and wife of a family who loved her and didn’t want her to die of a brain tumour.
But that’s not the narrative.
“Send the surgeon back is the cry”
Yeah, they’ve really thought this through haven’t they.
Great show lad’s, I hope you have got through to at least one person to make them think before they act, it’ll have been worth it.
Brilliant that Paul and Gareth, could have listened to the discussion for another two hours or more. Thanks a lot. Loads of sense and all well put forward.
Fair play lads all very well said ! We've had to deal with this on a smaller scale in Ireland, people who moved all around the world and suffered this kind of thing, now doing it to others. A small minority as always but still mad.
46 year old father of 7 who love you guys. Love the monologue, You should be a writer lol.
A difficult conversation that needs to have been had. Well in, lads.
First of all agree with all you lads said but I think we are ignoring the fact so many people were ready to jump so there must be millions of people that hold views that we may not understand but it needs addressing .. maybe you need guests on on either sad of it to talk it out .. also I think a lot of disenfranchised youth is a recipe for disaster no future hopes or work is what stands out for me especially in areas like Walton
Thanks for succinctly verbalising what my brain has been tumble drying for the last week or so.
Well done Craig. That was done well. From your subtitles friend
Thank you.
We could learn a lot from the elderly lady in Liverpool who held up the 'Nans Against Nazis' sign in front of the mosque. She would have been forgiven for not getting involved, being an old lady, but she stuck her neck out to make her voice heard. We'll all sit behind our computer screens and tut, 'Oh, that's terrible that is', but those of us opposing the riots are by far in the majority, it's time we (legally) made our voices heard like this wonderful woman.
It’s worrying knowing it’s only a matter of time before a mentally disturbed person who happens to have a Muslim name does something horrible. I can imagine a lot of people are going to be in danger.
We're beyond that now. We're now at a stage where no matter who does the appalling crime, certain loud mouths on twitter (Lawrence Fox et al) just assume they're Muslim and start pumping out misinformation. That's what happened after Southport. Everyone just assumed the perp was a muslim, that he was already on a watch list. None of that was true. None of it at all, yet that was out on the internet in a matter of minutes. And it;s led to this utter chaos.
A jewish kid tries to shoot Trumps head off, & no mention of his religion or race by any in the US media. Nurse Letby who killed so many babies didn't have her religion plastered everywhere....
@@potjhm1 Thomas Crooks name and face was immediately released to the public, what are you talking about?
@@bettybunbun9664 No mention that he was jewish though. If he was a muslim - Islam & all 2.2bn muslims would've beem blamed by the US media.
Does something horrible *again*
You mentioned the word 'empathy' a number of times and rightly so. In these complex times surely we can find space on the national curriculum for both empathy and another important life skill, critical thinking. They may not pay in an immediate business, monetary sense but the positives for society I am sure would be immense.
You're both on point guys. Another example of the faceless money men not wasting a good crisis and pitting us against eachother and keeping the attention away from themselves. Much love as always guys.
Boss speech at the start of the show, Robbo. We are living in dangerous times. People who are trying to make certain minorities feel unwelcome and not at home, are making us all feel that way. Why can't they see that?
Brilliant lads absolutely brilliant 👏
Just over half way into this podcast and I just want to say as a British Muslim (non scouse) lifelong Liverpool fan; you guys opitimise the attitude of what I've always believed about scousers. Not those mindless yobs over the weekend. Great listen. Thank you ❤
Well said lads 👍
Wow, You don't see people talking and thinking like that anymore, anywhere in the world. But you do still see it here.
What a podcast, fantastic boys. Absolutely fair play!
This is great lads. Thank you. People need this.
Perfect take lads ❤👌🏻 thank you for adding your voices to this, it’s about time we heard some sensible views.
YNWA
Great words fellas, really enjoyed listening to this.
Well thought out and presented, lads.
Well said , Robbo
Thanks for having the courage to speak the truth. Someone needs to
Bit late watching this show. Superb and well considered points. Completely echo the points made.
What a great opening monologue. Brilliant analysis.
Great Show lads.
Thanks lads for being real.
What you accuse the daily mail and telegraph of as regards reporting things like this, the likes of guardian and BBC do in the other direction.
Love that opening monologue, Robbo. Very powerful.
Well done lads! Great show and discussion on a very difficult and sensitive subject. Thoughts with the family with those 3 little angels. #onerace
Absolutely spot on this boys. Sane voices amongst the insanity. I needed this so thanks.
Well done lads. Couldn't have been an easy show to make but it was the right thing to do. A lot of good points. The media and various politicians need calling out on this false narrative that's being pushed. Cheers guys.
Brilliant this lads. Robbo you are such a good orator, proper old word that but you speak so well. Copey your analysis on point again.
Done well with that show lads. Very difficult subject but had to be addressed. Grim times we live in.
Well said lads and brilliant opening Robbo, every word was spot on
Would recommend 'Dumbing Us Down' by John Taylor Gatto. Speaks to what you were saying about how society is educated from a young age. I think you'd both like it.
Well said boys, everything in this episode
Great show guys. Sensible and honest.
Done a great job with this subject lads 👍 I wish there was simple answers.
Spot on lads ❤
Well said Gents.
Absolutely brilliant video. Important. Cheers lads. ❤️
czcams.com/video/0q_2VNTUjbk/video.html&si=52JiytNpTEa3yk6m - This sums it up for me. Someone driving hundreds of miles to "protest" against something they're unable to justify and explain when mildly questioned.
A lot of these people are misinformed and angry about something, but they're unable to recognise that they're expressing their anger in a completely bizzare way - destroying towns, cities and communities.
It also reminds me of when Brexit happened and C4 went to Barnsley and some fella triumphantly stated "It's all about immigration" and "about keeping Muslims out of the country".
Thick, uneducated people who seek simplistic answers to very complex issues.
This is why I love this podcast, football and politics are intertwined. The city and community go hand in hand. F**k hate towards minority communities. No place for it, ever.
I love Wag the dog quality film don't see it anywhere well worth a look if you can find it. Great podcast.
Well said, Copey. Well said indeed.
So you're complaining about the telegraph telling the full truth (instead of presenting curated information to fit their agenda like the guardian do)? Shouldnt they always report the full truth? And then you complained of the dailymail having an agenda, when you literally gave an example of the likes of guardian and bbc doing the same thing?
I saw "wag the dog" decades ago, & so did many people,, but it wasn't well publicized... script written BEFORE the Lewinsky affair!
On Farage, a lot of BBC journalists did hold him to account or seek to during the election campaign, but he adopted a Trump tactic of describing the questions and interviewers as "silly" or "stupid" when he was asked things he didn't like or more to the point made him look idiotic.
Isn't it noticeable that these "Save Our Kids" peope weren't rioting when Cashman gunned down Olivia, Ashley Dale was murdered in her own home or Rhys Jones was murdered whilst out playing football on the street?
No, because those that did it were people who they buy their beak off. They all need a mirror holding up to their values.
Wow. Great shout sir.
Best episode so far
I love Wag the Dog. Such a good film and well worth watching.
spot on lads
One of the best videos out there. Well in, lads.
I don't think religion had anything to do with it but just for clarity, it was reported in the Echo that he and his family were known to a local church. Thanks for the book suggestion 'Factfulness' I will check it out!
A sombre podcast but needed to be said And brilliantly said
Controlling mass immigration is unsolvable? Why? Most countries dont have mass uncontrolled immigration, and have carried out mass deportation when necessary.
Some people don't have the ability of letting go, maybe we should't expect them to behave any better.
I try not to get involved in the politics of division however whenever I hear you voice the only sensible opinion that applies I have to congratulate you on always have it. I’m a black man brought up in London and have since moved to California. It seems disgusting right wing politicians has given license to equally vile individuals to voice their twisted ideas publicly. We just have to accept ignorance is popular now. There is no logical argument to justify their behavior just a feeling of hate warming their souls
Well said lads...
""First they fascinate the fools and then they muzzle the intelligent". Bertrand Russell on fascism.
I'm gobsmacked, I can't really say more. 👍👍👍
Nick Lowes from Hope not Hate admitted to putting out false information about those supposedly 100 targets, isn't that causing trouble ?
Take your own advice
Gareth i was very impressed with your analysis if only more people had done their research and not listen to the media and Far right BS ! thugs are thugs regardless of religion or colour and should be treated as such! Respect one another the Liverpool FC way YNWA!
Kids are not allowed to be kids anymore. Was a kid who grew up in the 70s and was free and had a great childhood
Superb analysis of the current shit show we are facing as a society, Robbo. I am proud of the fact that you have both addressed these tragic issue when other Scouse Red fan channels have stayed silent, it's been noted. Lastly I don't think it's a coincidence that last Saturday the Orange lodges annual August parades were cancelled in Liverpool and Southport. I suspect a lot of their bigoted members ended up at the Pier Head on Saturday. YNWA
Don’t agree with that point Cope. Just cos 20% of people in Merseyside as you said who don’t vote labour are therefore the racist ones. There are plenty of labour voting racists as well you know. Take a look at Sunderland, now Liverpool etc. As you said ‘send em home’ or stop the boats has become a slogan. So has ‘fuck the tories’. Means nothing if the same people that chant it have the same mentality and views as them.
That’s not what I said.
Oy, what about the original Norwegian sailors who came up the Mersey, bringing a meat and veg stew ('lapskaus' in Norwegian), which gave you 'Scouse' as the name of the language/people?
real adults have convos muppets have debates .. coz someoen has to win a debate, in a convo 2 people can agree the best path forward most of the time. its called being a grown up ^^
good job lads for covering this.. mature and normal take on it with als the BS crap some channels do its refeshing to have you lads just talk about it n point out some facts.
keep up the great work.
and as for are city im always pround when we stand up agains these far right muppets who want to give us a bad name.
Well said boy's
Poor fella was only checking if he missed out on the Liverpool and United talk 😂
Absolutely spot on Robbo, as an exiled Scouser in Yorkshire, I mentioned that we are a multiracial society, we have been since the Saxons etc. I'm from Walton and I'm so ashamed of what went on. Your words are so eloquent, thank you both ❤
Yes, there were loads of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in England during the rule of the Anglo-Saxons. 🙄.
There were loads of Scandinavians doing some pretty bad things though
Well said lads. As a minority in the UK events like this make you feel like you don't belong. But hearing your views gives me heart! YNWA