How To Wire a Pool Pump, Pool Pump Installation Part 1 of 2
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In this video I show you how to connect the wires in a 230 Volt pool pump. It is pretty easy. There are just three wires to connect and that is it. I walk you though the process of disconnecting the old pool motor wires and connecting the new pump wires.
For part two of this video covering the plumbing of the pump:
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This is part one of a two part video on installing a Pentair Wisperflow pump. The existing pump here is warped due to overheating a three years ago when the old motor burned out. It was going on it's third diffuser so it was time to swap it out.
If you are hooking up a 115 V motor you will also have three wires. One will be the black load or "hot" wire, one white Neutral wire and one green ground wire. When you open the back of your motor up you will see these three wires labeled clearly for you.
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I like this, not talking about unnecessary b/s, right to the point, only what's important. Concise. Thumbs up!
As others have said, this is a dual voltage motor. Just put hot wire to L1 and neutral to L2 then turn black selector knob to 115v.
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Thank you! Very helpful. I bought this model after my old 11 year old pump died. I was confused about the writing as my old pumps wires were attached to terminals "A" and "B" and this new pumps terminals "L1" and "L2". But you cleared that up. Also I made sure to turn the switch from 230V to 115V as that's my power source.
Still amazed that you get so much done with one hand while shooting video.
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With all due respect. That motor tag says 208/230 and 115 volt application. Then under your left forefinger after you open motor lead cap there is a selector switch to chose 230/208 or 115. They should come factory set to 208/230 but it is always good to check.
That's a dual voltage motor all you need to do is turn the selector nob to the left by doing that you make it a 110v other than that you're video was right on point
It's a dual setting and my pump was set by default at 240. I didn't understand why my pump kept turning off. This comment saved me. You have to turn it to the 120 setting or whichever one is yours! Thanks
L1 and L2 stands for LINE.. Load is T1 and T2.. There is only a line hookup here
Note that this motor is actually a dual voltage motor. The name plate states the voltage rating of 208-230/115 as well as the "acceptable for field wiring". Also inside the wiring housing there is a voltage selector switch from 230v to 115v. L1 and L2 will still be used but I'm not 100% sure if polarity is an issue with this particular motor. It would be great if you would do another video demonstrating the conversion from 230v to 115v for those who have 115v at the pump area, noting that the amperage will double so wire size is extremely important. Thanks for the great video!
Sure. When I get time I will film one showing the dual voltage wiring. Thanks for the helpful post.
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Great video, exactly what I needed to know. Thanks!!!!
this is a dual voltage pump...do you see the switch to change from 230 to 115 ...???
I agree, it also had 208-220 / 115 if it was looked at close. and the voltage selector switch.
@@usmarinekenny I noticed the same thing. I still think he did a great job at providing a video for us!
The recommended way to attach wires to screw terminals is to wrap the wire in the direction of the tightening screw, I.e. Clockwise. You wrapped the ground wire the opposite way. A small thing but important.
Thanks for taking the time to share this!
Always & I mean Always disconnect your ungrounded (hots) first, & grounding (ground) last! When reconnecting Always ground first then hots! The reason is because of potential, someone can turn the ocpd on without you knowing & you do not want to be the grounding conductor.
I wired a 120 volt pump to 220v. Tool a couple months to burn up but either way still mot what you want happening these things are not cheap
A 220 pump hooked up to 110 won't burn the motor out. It will run a bit and make a clicking sound. A 110 pump hooked up to 220 will burn the motor out though. You should make that change in your video. Other than that your video is pretty good.
Why would the wires that come from the breaker that connect to the time clock show no electricity when I put a voltage tester on them? My pump also isn’t working after I put a new one in.
Suggestion when you install the new pump, make sure that the elbow that goes in the motor for the wires, is plastic and not metal, the previous owner of this house, install a metal elbow. When i had to remove the wiring because it was all corroded. it was extremely hard to un screw it, after two days of putting all kinds of oils and solvents, it would not budge. I tried to force it and the frame of the motor broke.
No one uses those anymore for that exact reason. Must be a very old pump.
What a great video. Thank you so much.
Hi, thanks for the video. This question's a bit off topic but here goes: For an indoor pool I can use gas heating for the water, if I wanted, so the only necessary piece of electrical equipment would be the pump to keep the water passing through a filter, is that right? Obviously lighting and other peripherals aside. I could use UV chlorination but don't need to - the only electrical thing I actually need is the pump?
I'm doing a electrical course project with a swimming pool so it's the electrical wiring I'm interested in and don't want to add unnecessary complications.
Thanks. : )
Yes, just the pump, filter and heater. Pretty easy
@@SPL Thanks. : )
Very informative video.
Great video thanks for the info! So essentially the two load wires are going to just 2 110V breakers so that's how you get 220? 2 x 110??
Yes. If you look at the 220 timer it is split in half. One line and one load wire on each half in the time clock. The 220 breaker is also the same configuration but connected together to control the 220 volt timer and thus the 220 motor.
But you can't use 2 single pole breakers, it has to be a 2pole common trip.
Thanks for the great video and I have read all the threads but I am still confused as I have a standard Romex I think it is called that has 1 Ground wire, 1 White, 1 Black and 1 Red! I believe I connect the Hot Wires to L1 (Black), L2 (Red) but what do you do with the White Common!
Thank again for all your help and support
Interesting. What replacement motor brand did you purchase? I would call them with this question. Not very common. Not sure where you would put the White Neutral wire.
Is it a a 2 speed pump motor ?
If it is a 3phase motor or 240V single phase motor , then you won't need the neutral. Also romex really shouldn't be used. Lfmc is definitely a better option. If you insist on romex & there is no inspection being performed, then you can either cut off the neutral at both ends or use dielectric wire nuts to cap off at both ends. I would also throw tape around the wire nut & wire.
help, I have a red, a black (l2) both with screws then I have two push on wires a white one to b, and a light pink or brown to a, so 4 wires all together is is a 5 year old pentair superflow, my new one looks like the one in the video, which wires do I use??
What if you have 2 black and one white wire? Measuring the two black I get 220vac but measuring white and any black I get 110vac on the old pump motor the white went to ground? Is that right?
Might be okay - sometimes the installer uses the wrong color wires.
need help I have a 230 Hayward pump red black an white wire...do I use the white wire as my ground?
What size wire is needed for 220. Thank you for your instruction.
Usually 12AWG is fine for the amperage.
Hey man I have a question for you. Is it possible to test a pool pump motor at home ? I mean bringing it into the basement and plugging it in inside to try it before installing it at a customers house ? They are interested in trying to refurbish the motor
If it is a 120V 1 hp or less motor you can wire a plug to it and plug it in. Yes. I have a pool myself and I have an extra 230V line run to test motors as well.
Super helpful. Thanks!
I have 4 wires ground no coating then a white black and red. I am not sure what to do.
Black and red are usually "hot" load wires. Usually
How do you install a GFCI breaker if there's no Neutral wire
That pump is dual voltage
Hello I'm installing a intelliflo to a 220 intermatic. Do I just wire the pump up like normal? Many thanks your vids are great
+PoolBlue B I believe there is another Channel with a CZcams video on wiring that pump. Just search CZcams.
So I bought a hayward super pump 2 self priming 220/120 . And my problem is i only have three wire green , bluish and a black wire . And in the inside there is a connector that said 220 / 1120 how do i connect them . I'm lost and confused . Your video demonstrates only three wires which is simple but my connections have three wire and a hook up inside the pump that saids 120 and 220 ? 😱I am confused . I'm so confused that I'm repeating things twice , HELP
I would call Hayward Tech support and they will walk you through it for sure.
great job good man
This is older wiring from house I bought years ago. Motor burned up got new one. Don't remember how wired but has 2 black wires and 1 white..
Do you know how I wire it to new motor?
Would ground be the white wire?
Might be the original installer didn't use code for neutral. Black is typically load or hot.
The wire insulation looked worn. I might consider replacing them.
should the breaker in the house (labeled pool equipment) also be shut off or will the shutting off the breaker by the pump be suffice?
There should only be one circuit breaker but if there’s a switch at the pool pump you should definitely kill it at the breaker in the panel but never assume your wires are dead unless you use a multimeter to verify there’s no power there before doing work.
Hi, you are to go, person, every time I do my pool maintenance. Can I have a dry run for a few seconds after I replace the pump?
Yes. You can turn it on to see if the motor starts. Just make sure it is securely attached to the pump end before starting it or it.
I have a 10 3 wire can I use it. It has black, white and red wire plus a naked copper wire.
I get my wire whip from my supplier - but your local pool store should carry the correct one.
I have a question, my pool pump i believe is 220v because it has a double breaker like you said, my model is I believe the ultra flo from American products, I'm planning to install the whisperflo 1 hp, but for my wire it has one green wire and 2 orange wires, is that a 220v wire? I thought 220v wiring is one green, one red and one black, but mine is one green and 2 orange wires, once I get my whisperflo pump could I wire it just like you did in this video?
Correction I believe they're red wires not orange, just looks orange because it's faded
bludika Probably the installer did not use wires to code - I have run into weird wire colors also over the years. Sometimes the electrician will use whatever wires he has on the truck. So I think it is safe to assume the orange wires are the load wires. So the way I do it in this video should be the way you wire yours also.
bludika So yes, those wires are the load wires.
The only wire colors assigned in the NEC is bare,green, or green with yellow stripe(typically represents a isolated ground)for the grounding conductor & white (120v/240V) & gray (277V/480V) neutral/grounded conductor. Other than that there isn't a color code. Electricity doesn't care what color the insulation is. In low voltage/data/comm wires there is a color index I believe. But standard electrical the ungrounded conductors (hots) can be purple with yellow polka-dots if you want. Industry standard is black red blue for 120/240 brown orange yellow for 277/480. That's AC. For DC no neutral just green/bare is grounding conductor & red is positive black is negative.
@@bludika Hello Bludika: I have the same issue. One green Wire ( Ground) and two red wires ( load wires) I have a 230V Pentair Single speed motor. Just to confirm. It doesnt matter which red wire I hook up to the L-! and L-2 connection? They are interchangable in your video.?
Is there any advantage to running my pump on 220 vs 110? Thanks You have great videos by the way!
The pump is more efficient on 220V. If you have that option I would go with 220V
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What is the part called that you connect the wires to ? Can it be replaced if it’s broken ?
Terminals. Sometimes - but other times they are fixed to the back.
@@SPL I have the exact same pump as the new one you hooked up here. Seems like I can only find the AO Smith terminal board online and it don’t match what I have. Thanks for the reply.
What could be the issue if it powers on for 3-5 seconds then powers off?
If it is an older pump the capacitor might be an issue. On a new install maybe the wrong voltage or a problem with the voltage from the breaker.
Hi,My swimming pool pump works about 15 minutes then off by itself. If I turn it on again, it works about 15 minutes then off by itself again. Can you tell me if the pump needs to be rewired? (I have this brandnew pool built in 2009, and the problem just happened in last two months.) Thanks
+James FawnVista Could be a few different problems. What brand and type do you have?
HAYWARD. Thanks.
Turn the voltage to 110.
What's that white [capacitor release mechanism] part at 1:53. I think it turns off the capacitor once the motor starts spinning. Mine was damaged during installation but I could not find the name anywhere?
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This [emerson r63cxdna-19s motor ]
has 2 copper leafs which touch a plastic disk attached to the back of
the shaft. The copper leafs were damaged during installation. Is it
sufficient to just straighten them out?
What is that part called? Someone told me that you can't buy it
separately, but I was thinking someone might be selling one on Ebay. Do
the leafs go under the plastic tabs or over (on top) of the plastic
white tabs? If one of the plastic tabs is broken off, does it still work?
I think it is called a stationary switch.
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The very last connection made - to the external lug - where does that wire go? Thank you.
Usually grounded to the pool heater.
We don't have a pool heater. is it necessary to connect it to anything else?
Something metal to ground the motor in case the GFI or breaker fail.
Thanks
That wire is not actually a ground wire. it is a bond wire which provides equipotential between all objects in the pool that can carry electricity...similar to ground, but definitely not the same. ideally it should be run in a continuous run.
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do you wire the intelliflo the same way?
Yes. Here is a video from someone on CZcams installing an Intelliflo pump. How to Install a Pool Pump - Pentair Intelliflo Variable Speed Pump
My lug where I hook up the AC power
broke in the back of my sta-rite pump - can i get a replacement?
+Pablo Diaz I think so, not sure what the part is called. If you call Pentair and give them the pump model # they can give you the part #. Sta-Rite is owned by Pentair: 800-831-7133
sorry!!! is a good video but I still comfuse whit low 1 and low 2
Both are the same.
That connection on the rear is the BONDING lug, not the GROUND lug. There is a difference.
You are correct that is called the Bonding lug. It grounds the actual pump housing to prevent electrocution in case there is a short in the AC from the water. The inside ground green wire is grounded to the timer itself. Both are important. Thanks for correcting my terminology - I will post an annotation correcting that clip.
Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To -MrDgvb1 The ground point inside grounds the pump including the case even though the wire connects to the timer. This would protect from a short. The bonding connection ensures that metal components within the pool system (pump, light, etc), are all at the same electrical potential. If they are not, there can be a difference between these and cause a shock, albeit typically quite small. All of this should even be tied into a wire mesh in the pool concrete. Check out the electrical code, its enlightening how much its not followed and how much confusion there is on the subject.
*bonding wire