Fmr. Google CEO Eric Schmidt on the Consequences of an A.I. Revolution | Amanpour and Company

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  • Artificial Intelligence is here to stay. How it is being applied-and, perhaps more importantly, regulated-are now the crucial questions to ask. Walter Isaacson speaks with former Google CEO Eric Schmidt about A.I.’s impact on life, politics, and warfare, as well as what can be done to keep it under control.
    Originally aired on March 23, 2023.
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  • @emiliog.4432
    @emiliog.4432 Před rokem +145

    An intelligent discussion. PBS is a National treasure.

    • @bellinterlab8139
      @bellinterlab8139 Před rokem +2

      Yes they did a great job on reporting on the deaths of 2 million people in the Middle East that resulted from US interventions in the region.

    • @eddiesalinas
      @eddiesalinas Před rokem +5

      Yes, we are so lucky to have Amanpour and Co!

    • @amit4Bihar
      @amit4Bihar Před rokem +2

      Video from a capitalist perspective no doubt. Social media isn't making us angry. The reality of modern life is. Social media is just the representation of us

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles Před rokem

      @@amit4Bihar and you're not in a capitalist country, right?

    • @shinkurt
      @shinkurt Před rokem +4

      PBS is sooo underrated

  • @blackphillip2393
    @blackphillip2393 Před rokem +68

    Wow, this is the most important and informative interviews I've heard in ages.

  • @knhkib
    @knhkib Před rokem +79

    I can truly say that the previous two weeks have been some of the most incredible and exciting times in my entire life. I find myself completely amazed by the events that are taking place right now. Whenever I try to share my thoughts and feelings with the people around me, I'm met with puzzled looks and a lack of understanding. It makes me wonder if they really grasp the importance and potential impact of the current situation.

    • @MrSurfsAlot
      @MrSurfsAlot Před rokem +1

      They don't care lol. It's crazy

    • @fourshore502
      @fourshore502 Před rokem +1

      @@MrSurfsAlot well, even if they did care, what can they do? hide in a bunker? theres not that much to do.

    • @rg1360
      @rg1360 Před rokem +4

      It's hard to see outside the current order. People look at everything through their own lens

    • @jthompson6189
      @jthompson6189 Před rokem +9

      I am getting the same thing at work, people glaze over when I even mention AI. AI itself has a stigma being linked to insane conspiracies in the past, so people are brushing it off. This stuff will shock people soon

    • @utkua
      @utkua Před rokem +6

      "don't look up"

  • @diligentmindz
    @diligentmindz Před rokem +17

    This is the scariest thing I have ever heard. My skin is crawling!

    • @JohnKerbaugh
      @JohnKerbaugh Před rokem

      I am looking for how to bet on my intuition of this.
      But, my bet is that more jobs and business will disappear and be created in the next 10 years than the last 30.
      I am interested in others perspectives on, how quickly people affected will refocus and retrain.
      I am not very optimistic about politics and our economic stability.

  • @59markr
    @59markr Před rokem +40

    Thanks Walter and Eric. Excellent conversation. Its great to have something new to be terrified about. 🙄

    • @aktchungrabanio6467
      @aktchungrabanio6467 Před rokem

      @@LukeMosse I think AI will be the tool that propels humanity's intelligence to super-human levels. Chat GPT can teach you any subject you ask for, effectively eliminating the need to attend school to learn new stuff. It will rock every single aspect of our lives. The 4th Industrial Revolution is here.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman Před rokem

      Like with every other technology, it’s only a matter of time before someone misuses, abuses, or otherwise uses it for harm or war.
      This will be no different. But a lot worse.

  • @mcaldlnr
    @mcaldlnr Před rokem +22

    Well that was absolutely fucking terrifying

    • @bradc32
      @bradc32 Před rokem

      not much of a solution but the people have to stop feeding them info or try to flood it with false info...need some aps/software created to flood them with false info...lets go programmers!!

    • @ohallright2021
      @ohallright2021 Před rokem

      The enduring challenge is human design. Some - esp. competing power seekers - will feed their AI wells with seeds intending to increase their personal influence. We can neither control their actions nor the trajectory of their results. We cannot assume that those results will lead to some magical "kumbaya" among machine learners. Expect differing views from different bots on how, how many and which humans and other species they calculate should thrive. Expect no human consensus on universal solutions to the problems our most powerful species seeks to solve or on the responses Mother Nature proposes. Lacking human will to maximize diversity, the status quo will simply proceed ever faster.

  • @rubberbiscuit99
    @rubberbiscuit99 Před rokem +45

    "Engagement through enragement."
    The death of morality.

    • @ronaldronald8819
      @ronaldronald8819 Před rokem +8

      Yea efficient way to polarize society, frightening . To compound that, lets give both extremes the power of unrestricted A.I. (Feels a bit like a toddlers playing with matches next to a pile of dynamite. )

    • @KerrieRedgate
      @KerrieRedgate Před rokem +1

      Indeed.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller Před rokem

      Basically yeah pretty much.

    • @chaosdweller
      @chaosdweller Před rokem

      @@ronaldronald8819 yeah and that how it's been since social media in my opinion haha, ...god help us haha.

    • @craighunt6098
      @craighunt6098 Před rokem

      Thats why Elon Musk bought Twitter....and he just did a deal with Tucker Carlson, an Enragement Superstar....along with Elons own shocking tweets---look to him to do lots more Engagement through Enragement things from now on...

  • @lat7805
    @lat7805 Před rokem +17

    New paradigms ahead, everything will change inimaginably fast!
    Such an interesting and necessary conversation!

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      I wonder how could you know since it is unimaginable, and would be unimaginable even if true.

    • @PeteBogg
      @PeteBogg Před rokem +1

      You mean everything in the online space?

    • @3dstudiocafe344
      @3dstudiocafe344 Před rokem

      What they are describing is happening now and has been since the beginning of human communication. - the only difference is the tools. For the cave man, manipulation was force. For the next evolution of man, it was the spoken word. Then, the written word, then the auditory or spoken word. Then media giants came along and multiplied the manipulation by magnitudes, and now, manipulation is programmed into the machines by the same humans who practice control by manipulation. However, I have said this for over 30 years, once I understood this reality as a journalism student, we humans actually have the power to STOP the monster... Turn it off. Period. But, we are so addicted to the conditioning by these humans and their machines (ie: human "heros" that we hold in high esteem, print, radio, tv, audio clips, video clips, computers and cell phones, artificial bots and now robots) that we refuse to stop the destruction of our own world. Think about that for a minute!

  • @deldridg
    @deldridg Před rokem +4

    What a privilege to witness this level of conversation and analysis.

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      Up to the cognitive level of the consumer society - make you think it is insightful, make you judge it as intelligent, and so make you feel intelligent. The pot sellers used to do it long time ago.

    • @deldridg
      @deldridg Před rokem

      @@voltydequa845 OK, so you clearly function on a higher plane than the rest of us, naive and hoodwinked as we are, simple members of the consumer society. Oh for your level of enlightenment. One wonders - if you are so superior, then what are you doing here? There appears to be no point to your comment other than to arrogantly denegrate me intellectually. Perhaps it's the pot talking. 🙂

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      @@deldridg Mine was about the cognitive capacity of the democratically hyper-productive society whose deepness of thinking (or just simply asking, before starting to talk, "what are we really talking about?") is inversely proportional to the quantity of superficial input.
      And one of the members, of that same society, came here with his psycho trick of trying to make insecure by instilling doubts about the other's intellect on hot air basis (without talking on the topic). Seems came out of one of those new fashion books "Manual of using psychological tricks to compensate for the lack of dialectical skills". Could be you'll realize that there's no cognitive AI in GPT as soon as you start thinking instead of casting doubts on those who say that the attribution of AI, to the 'thing' is just a sign of the lack of critical thinking.
      Going to write a screenplay for "The intelligence snatchers", but, since we need public for that, only after I succeed in at least quantifying how many human mind can survive this believing that bs-chat has (some) intelligence.

  • @nopartyforpapke
    @nopartyforpapke Před rokem +15

    "Pictures cannot be unseen" - in a way we are some kind of AI ourselves, and our whole internal makeup is up for grabs to anyone who knows how to manipulate.

    • @netscrooge
      @netscrooge Před rokem

      Thank you. I wish more people were talking about this.

  • @poulthomas469
    @poulthomas469 Před rokem +70

    Such a good conversation. What this will allow the worst of us to accomplish is staggering.

    • @tomasinacovell4293
      @tomasinacovell4293 Před rokem

      But in the USA all the safety features have been subverted already, like The Fairness Doctrine, Citizen's United, etc and it's impossible to hold the wealthy accountable at all, let alone tax them?

    • @kamu747
      @kamu747 Před rokem +4

      As well as the best of us. Thank God the good outnumbers the bad. Exciting times.

    • @npmerrill
      @npmerrill Před rokem +1

      @@kamu747in certain segments of the population, that is true. In those echelons with the most influence over impactful outcomes - global power centers - I’m much less certain good people outnumber bad. Our track record is not so hot in this respect.

    • @HonoredMule
      @HonoredMule Před rokem +5

      Yeah it's not that kind of numbers game. America's juvenile attitude toward guns is a case study on how that game ends.

    • @paulmichaelfreedman8334
      @paulmichaelfreedman8334 Před rokem +2

      The yin/yang - good/evil battle is eternal, it just changes face from time to time. In the 20th century it was nuclear technology. In the 21st century it's Computers / AI.

  • @najah68
    @najah68 Před rokem +6

    Thank you for such a great discussion and insights

  • @james3856
    @james3856 Před rokem +4

    When they start talking about getting rid of free speech things get very scary. The checks and balances of accountability in leaders is very important, even of leading companies that can restrict communication (e.g., Google, Facebook, Twitter, CZcams, etc.)

  • @acnorea123
    @acnorea123 Před rokem +4

    Love it. Very thought provoking.

  • @seanmcdonald4686
    @seanmcdonald4686 Před rokem +14

    Reporter - How can we stop evil humans from using this to destroy society? Eric Schmidt - We can’t! Isn’t it awesome?!?

    • @jthompson6189
      @jthompson6189 Před rokem +1

      We're so incredibly screwed, he just can't say that. We can't put the cat back in the bag anymore, chat gpt is already able to upgrade itself

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      @@jthompson6189 «... chat gpt is already able to upgrade itself»
      ----
      Intelligence is about understanding. There's no understanding there.
      That apart, what is the source? Who said it is able to upgrade itself? What does upgrade mean (what are the implications, regarding performance and / or else)?
      See - we talk about AI, but we are not able to understand what we are talking about. So we are talking the talk, about AI, around a phenomena that does not have any form of intelligence.

  • @michaeljames6737
    @michaeljames6737 Před rokem +1

    Amazing discussion! PBS rules!

  • @emmahardesty4330
    @emmahardesty4330 Před rokem +5

    The only possible intellectual response I can come up with is "Yikes!"

  • @normadenys8089
    @normadenys8089 Před rokem +15

    Good talk , although quite worrisome ! I better understood that we have to be more alert to the interaction between human cognition & AI logic

  • @DeeWeber
    @DeeWeber Před rokem +1

    That last line is it. Thank you, both.

  • @skylineuk1485
    @skylineuk1485 Před rokem +1

    One of the best talks on the subject so far.

  • @sidewaysdesign
    @sidewaysdesign Před rokem +17

    One of the most clear-eyed assessments I've seen about AI, including AI that’s already been at work in our lives.

    • @narajuna
      @narajuna Před rokem

      Some need some clarity on Henry Kissenger.

  • @Patrick-bu5vy
    @Patrick-bu5vy Před rokem +10

    And we thought the atomic bomb would be the end of us. The people who have worked on these have a lot to answer for. The benefits are vastly overstated, while the costs will be all too real. And once the genie is out, it won’t be going back in the bottle.

    • @bipolarbear9917
      @bipolarbear9917 Před rokem +4

      Unfortunately, the genie is already out of the bottle.

    • @jimj2683
      @jimj2683 Před rokem

      The benefits are curing all diseases and even reversing the aging process.

    • @magda7660
      @magda7660 Před rokem +1

      ​@@jimj2683 for those very little thay will survive

    • @demangchoy6025
      @demangchoy6025 Před rokem

      @@jimj2683 hopefully we still have humans left after the great purge to see this prediction come through.

    • @fourshore502
      @fourshore502 Před rokem

      oh it could still be the atomic bomb. havent you seen the terminator movies?

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca Před rokem +1

    ⚠️ Excellent. A really authority on the subject. He knows what he's saying. ❤

  • @willscui
    @willscui Před rokem +3

    Eric is the best ceo Google had.

  • @OwlofAsia
    @OwlofAsia Před rokem +2

    Amazing interview.

  • @GuarIncome4Life
    @GuarIncome4Life Před rokem

    Brilliant -- amazed! Thank you.

  • @Zero11_ss
    @Zero11_ss Před rokem +6

    Our 80 year old senators and congressmen couldnt even understand that facebook makes money via selling ads. I think hoping for regulation to save us before the damage is done is going to be a disaster.

  • @StankFernatra
    @StankFernatra Před rokem

    Thank you.

  • @korismos
    @korismos Před rokem +2

    A very necessary and enlightening dialogue. We must delve deeper into the implications of the current acceleration in the design and production of complex digital environments that have severe impacts on society. Thank you!

  • @CrankyAsF
    @CrankyAsF Před rokem +10

    Who knew science fiction writers of the 50s would be correct, that AI will destroy the earth in a war man can't control.

    • @tallSycamore
      @tallSycamore Před rokem +2

      The alternative 50s sci-fi would have AI kill all the humans first, before we could destroy the earth. We are the menace.

    • @CrankyAsF
      @CrankyAsF Před rokem +2

      @@tallSycamore That's true, too.

  • @Jesse-ey5xd
    @Jesse-ey5xd Před rokem +8

    We're screwed

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 Před rokem

      Yes, if I discovered I had ants living in my kitchen, even though they can't hurt me I'd still spray them with bug spray. To a hyper intelligent AI, we are ants.

    • @ronaldronald8819
      @ronaldronald8819 Před rokem +2

      Feels a bit like a toddlers playing with matches next to a pile of dynamite.

  • @infonyourmark
    @infonyourmark Před rokem +1

    Excellent interview

  • @JanMan37
    @JanMan37 Před rokem

    Excellent conversation!

  • @rodi4850
    @rodi4850 Před rokem +1

    Surprisingly good interview 👍

  • @shazamshazamshazam696
    @shazamshazamshazam696 Před rokem +3

    That is very informative and from someone who knows of what they speak.

  • @tonicalloway7227
    @tonicalloway7227 Před rokem +1

    This is a great interview..

  • @max_rove
    @max_rove Před rokem

    Great conversation!

  • @dianewiegel7136
    @dianewiegel7136 Před rokem +5

    How are we going to do that, it doesn't seem like anyone is held accountable for online bad actions

    • @jimsykes6843
      @jimsykes6843 Před rokem +3

      And at the end of the video he says what we need are guardrails. But this would require laws. And in the current climate in U.S. politics, it seems highly unlikely that such laws will be passed. Especially when this technology is useful to would-be authoritarians.

  • @JumpDiffusion
    @JumpDiffusion Před rokem

    Great interview.

  • @CarlosMaiaRosario
    @CarlosMaiaRosario Před rokem

    Always love yours reports , magnificent .

  • @evdm7482
    @evdm7482 Před rokem

    Great highlights of current concerns

  • @adtiamzon3663
    @adtiamzon3663 Před rokem

    Good conversation!

  • @SnoopyDoofie
    @SnoopyDoofie Před rokem +3

    That wasn't Eric Schmidt. It was an AI version of him that forgot to include his trademark glasses.

  • @holotape
    @holotape Před rokem +2

    Isaacson rules. I’ve only read a couple of his books but they are ones I’ve recommended to many people. Really interesting interview.

  • @bheehive4497
    @bheehive4497 Před rokem

    GOOD WORK

  • @marccox8977
    @marccox8977 Před rokem

    TY Amanpour and Co. Is great.

  • @petepete2284
    @petepete2284 Před rokem

    Great stuff.

  • @kalimero86
    @kalimero86 Před rokem +5

    This man is really smart. His final speech about manipulation is what makes me more concern about all this AI evolution. Soon we will not know what is real and what not. People has always believed what they wanted to believe not matter if its true or not. With the use of AI in video audio and text, the misinformation is going to be huge. Even more that it is right now. It's really scary.

    • @narajuna
      @narajuna Před rokem +1

      " believed what they wanted to believe not matter if its true or not." ...not sure about that, Many believe what they are wanted to believe, no matter..... Much is not "true or not" established, by Miss Science or Gov. Much of THAT is decided and vehiculed by Authority with Power. But the concept is good, free, maybe why (free)Beliefs are so feared by.... Leaders and their followers

  • @51hankyspanky7
    @51hankyspanky7 Před rokem +1

    Eric Schmidt is brilliant. His explanation of cause and effect to say how true the world is concerning human reaction to upsetting media news and the nature of hostile reaction is in fact the reality that is reality. Wise beyond wise.

  • @Skynet_the_AI
    @Skynet_the_AI Před rokem

    Thanks Eric

  • @petermartin5030
    @petermartin5030 Před rokem

    Thanks for this informed discussion.

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      They are so brave at making you feel knowledgable at a point that you can judge them as informed.

  • @AngelicaFWhite
    @AngelicaFWhite Před rokem +1

    Excellent analysis and I share the concerns expressed by Eric Schimidt

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      @Chad Abercrombie «Angelica F. White, bruh, what are you smoking ? Do you have background in computer science ?»
      ----
      I, in spite of being a programmer, say that you do not any background in computer science to defend your mind from all this bs about a chat with intellectual capacity (if at all) that is far inferior than that of a bee. They would attribute intelligence to whatever chat based on hot air as a collateral effect of frying database of notions (questions & answers) filled by others. They are like wind vanes that conform in the direction of an authoritative entity (be it human or be in chatten).
      How an ignorant defends itself from all this intelligent talking the intelligent talk? - Simple, he defends himself asking the a very simple question "When is AI going to stop chatting and going out to fix the infrastructure and all the rest?".
      ChatGPT was asked "When I was six years old my sister was half of that age old. Now I am 70 years old. How old is my sister?", and answered "67".
      Now I ask you "Do you think that this simple example (and there are even simpler!) would be sufficient to make these people do not seem having smoked some strange discharge of a star trek-like spaceship?"

  • @shyamchaudhri
    @shyamchaudhri Před rokem

    Brilliant discussion!

  • @bradc32
    @bradc32 Před rokem +5

    just what we need in an era of can't believe what you see and hear already

  • @craighunt6098
    @craighunt6098 Před rokem

    Best Interview on AI that I have watched to date---Well Done!

  • @robertmontgomery3892
    @robertmontgomery3892 Před rokem +1

    The call for disarmament has been ringing louder than ever before, and it's not difficult to understand why. In recent years, we have witnessed the devastating impact of wars and conflicts, which have not only claimed countless lives but have also resulted in economic devastation, societal upheaval, and the exacerbation of global tensions. As such, disarmament has become a crucial step in achieving lasting peace and stability in the world.
    Unfortunately, the United States' foreign policy, particularly under the leadership of the neoconservative movement, has only exacerbated the problem. The neoconservative approach has been characterized by an aggressive and militaristic stance, with a focus on pre-emptive strikes and the use of military force to achieve geopolitical objectives. This approach has led to a significant increase in global tensions, as other countries feel threatened and are forced to respond in kind.
    Moreover, the United States' military-industrial complex has become a behemoth, with vast resources dedicated to the development and production of weapons and military equipment. This has created a perverse incentive structure, where war is not only viewed as a legitimate means of achieving foreign policy objectives, but it has also become an economic driver. The result has been a never-ending cycle of conflict, with the United States constantly engaging in wars and supporting proxy conflicts around the world.
    To make matters worse, the United States has often played a hypocritical role in international disarmament efforts. While calling for other countries to disarm, the United States has continued to maintain its own massive nuclear arsenal, with no signs of reducing it. This double standard only serves to undermine the credibility of disarmament efforts and perpetuates the global arms race.
    It is time for the United States to adopt a new foreign policy approach, one that prioritizes diplomacy, cooperation, and disarmament. This will not only lead to a more peaceful world, but it will also allow the United States to redirect its resources towards addressing domestic challenges, such as inequality, climate change, and infrastructure. Only by breaking free from the cycle of endless war and militarism can the United States truly become a beacon of peace and stability in the world.

  • @wertrager
    @wertrager Před rokem +1

    Loved to see Eric Schmidt as a true democrat!

  • @franceslock1662
    @franceslock1662 Před rokem

    Interesting interview

  • @typicalKAMBlover21
    @typicalKAMBlover21 Před rokem

    Great discussion. Intellectual feast

  • @TheTruthSeeker756
    @TheTruthSeeker756 Před rokem +1

    Getting engagement by generating enragement. Excellent analysis

  • @gorgebridge
    @gorgebridge Před rokem +2

    I asked Bing about the danger of A.I. technology without well prepared regulations about a week ago and it answered and provided solutions which are really similar to what Eric Schmidt talked in this interview.

    • @awillingham
      @awillingham Před rokem

      Here’s to hoping AI researchers are using their internal models to full effect in the knowledge gain department

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      And Bing answered recycling, from his pre-acquired (they call it "pre-trained") database (of questions & answers) what others already said / wrote. And it answered in a style that seems those was his thoughts. But it is not a fault of (the creators of) Bing, it is a fault of too much startrekish productions that made so many people live disconnected from reality and common sense.

  • @woodspriteful
    @woodspriteful Před rokem +4

    I ask my 8 year old, "what is your greatest power?" What you pay attention to, what you consume, what you create.
    I hope that government regulators collaborate with leaders in consciousness studies, not just American academics, but Easterners.

  • @christianfaust5141
    @christianfaust5141 Před rokem +1

    Very good discussion...regulations in social media are needed, in particular as former Google CEO, and people must be identifiable. Free speech is important but requires limits not to end up in civil war. Best regards from Europe

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      Yes, the responsibility to limit freedom for the sake of preserving freedom. Not like those pariah that pretend to responsibly limit freedom for the sake of defending their citizens from nonsense. Example ­- a fair amount of people believe that AI is here, on the basis of a Chat that in reality has less intelligence that a bee; would it be fair to limit the freedom of deceiving people presenting a parroting non-intelligence as if it was a breakthrough, when not revolution, intelligence? Would it be fair to ask, all these sellers of intelligent pots, when will all that AI stop chatting and start fixing the degrading infrastructure, building, streets, etc etc?

  • @borntobemild-
    @borntobemild- Před rokem

    Very clearly and succinctly put answers, sir.

  • @hofahome
    @hofahome Před rokem

    “In a way we don’t fully understand” was said too many times for my comfort although I appreciate his honesty.

  • @robertmontgomery3892
    @robertmontgomery3892 Před rokem +1

    Your responses in this interview tell me that it's time for people to wake up and see the reality of the situation. The United States is not the democracy that it claims to be - it is an oligarchy, where a small group of wealthy and powerful individuals hold the reins of power and dictate the policies that shape our world.
    As someone who is part of the oligarchy, Eric should know better than anyone else how the system works, and how it is designed to serve the interests of the few at the expense of the many. It's clear from his commentary in this video that he is more concerned with protecting his personal interests than with speaking truth to power and naming the real culprits in this global struggle.
    We cannot afford to be complacent and allow the deep state, the US State Department, and the Defense Department to continue their decades-long campaign to mislead ordinary people. We must stay vigilant and hold those in power accountable for their actions. We must demand transparency, honesty, and a true democracy that serves the needs of all people, not just the wealthy and powerful few.
    Furthermore, the use of AI technology by these entities is a cause for concern. We must remain vigilant and ensure that AI is not being used to further their agenda, manipulate public opinion, or suppress dissent. We need to demand greater oversight and regulation of AI technology to ensure that it is being used in ways that benefit society as a whole, not just a select few.

  • @dinydianenichols9192
    @dinydianenichols9192 Před rokem +1

    Highly educational interview. Clarified so many misconceptions about AI. So honest and honorable a discussion that I feel less fear about AI and more hope that the most frightening problems are being addressed and studied with a goal toward the good of mankind and the respect for all creation, including AI.

  • @1fattyfatman
    @1fattyfatman Před rokem

    I love that this interview treated me like an adult. Thanks for sharing.

  • @peterng25
    @peterng25 Před rokem

    A person in April 2023 in Nairobi or in Da Nang Vietnam talking to a tech working in the Bay area in California, if the tech was stuck in 2022, would be at the same level, as far as having a casual discussion about anything, including IT. Governments in Kenya and every countries pretty much are using ChatGPT API, and the world has changed beyond all recognition

  • @KerrieRedgate
    @KerrieRedgate Před rokem +82

    Excellent discussion. Thank you! Scary times ahead. I’m not a fan of AI. I believe in human endeavour, the time it takes to evolve ideas, to master talents. AI may have the capacity to rob us of the very essence of our humanity. The quick path is never the path of our satisfaction in life.

    • @Quasilobo
      @Quasilobo Před rokem +3

      Well said! Hypothetically, if we were ever able to contact alien life forms from another star system and exploit their technology it would be equivalent to paying someone to do our homework. We'd learn nothing in the long run. We learn by trial-and-error. We learn from our mistakes. We learn through "bought experience." I like your phrase, 'the evolution of ideas.'

    • @KerrieRedgate
      @KerrieRedgate Před rokem +5

      @@Quasilobo
      Hello, Michael. Yes, that’s a good analogy about homework. That’s why they had the “Prime Directive” in Star Trek, to not interfere in the evolution of other species. I also think being given things/ideas too quickly negates the process of considering the Responsibility in the application of those things/ideas. Seems to me we’re also giving ourselves a lobotomy: the younger generations could lose the ability to *think* (prefrontal cortex).

    • @ma2i485
      @ma2i485 Před rokem +6

      Yeah it is concerning especially long term consequences but then it's just a technology that will come with its advantages and disadvantages, the difference though with AI we are stepping into uncharted territory, nobody really knows what the future holds with AI.

    • @PauIieWalnuts
      @PauIieWalnuts Před rokem +7

      ​@@Quasiloboevery time you use a calculator, you're being robbed of your humanity 😅😂

    • @KerrieRedgate
      @KerrieRedgate Před rokem +6

      @@PauIieWalnuts
      Calculators are not AI. They do simple mathematical calculations.

  • @TheBreezus
    @TheBreezus Před rokem +1

    I like these talks because it is what is needed with such powerful technology. This is the ultimate test of balance.

    • @voltydequa845
      @voltydequa845 Před rokem

      Just a vague talk, on a level appropriate to meet the cognitive capability of the startrekers.

  • @DanielTruran
    @DanielTruran Před rokem +4

    One of the most intelligent and still scary explanation of what is happening and what is likely to happen in the current breakneck speed of development of #AI

    • @DeepThinkingGPU
      @DeepThinkingGPU Před rokem

      do you think he wants he old model of how google makes money hand over fist broken with search? wouldn't that affect his pay and stock?

  • @jeremyhorne5252
    @jeremyhorne5252 Před rokem

    This is an essential interview that anyone concerned with AI needs to watch. My unedited observations follow.
    When Schmidt says that "these things are not killer robots", that is presumptuous, inasmuch as inflicted death (as we know from warfare) often is preceded by sizing up a target, strategizing, and other anticipatory actions. Just because the builders of AI may not intend destruction, we do not know that these systems, within themselves, are self-organizing (or not) - autopoietic. Be aware, also, of AI units capable of generating their own code. Schmidt, himself, admits that AI seems to have a "hidden understanding and meaning". Emergence is not very well understood.
    He is very correct in asserting that we lack a philosophy of AI, a central focus being "consciousness". Additionally, he is spot-on and rightly frightened about the "raw models". Right now, we are clueless about what this word means. As a sidebar, we are - aside from techniques like Bayesian processes - in the dark about what "learning" means. Knowledge generation - induction - is not well understood. Be reminded of Hume and Russell, for example.
    As a sidebar, Schmidt's chatter about "democracy" ignores the essential fact that people are unequal in their capacity for and quality of mentation (cf: Gardner's multiple intelligences, for example). "Democracy": is applicable, though, in observing that everyone has equal access to the internet. The same battle for power in the real world exists in the virtual. Democracy as a quality decision-making method thrives only among those of equal quality. Otherwise, it allows leveraging by demagogues. Witness the United States. Schmidt tacitly recognizes this by his remarks on the need to regulate. If quality mentation existed, corresponding equality of ethos (one of Gardner's intelligences) would exist across all society.
    We also need to be cognizant of the dialectical human-AI interaction, one feeding on the other (growth and destruction), as well as the role of second-order cybernetics - observer becoming the observed (and vice-versa). I also note the frequent use of "things we don't fully understand", the emphasis on "fully" being noteworthy.
    We also must address the "rogue factor". AI developers may be able to build in guardrails, but such does not mean others will follow the lead. Already, competitors are emerging. I refer to nuclear arms races as an analogy. Then, think of terrorist organizations, like ISIS.
    Finally, be mindful that the current Chatbot technology is still based on older methods; unknown and particularly disconcerting is qubit technology, i.e., quantum computing. That we still are wrestling with Planck-scale phenomena darkens our learning environment.
    For AI and consciousness, see my "A Framework for Studying Consciousness. Consciousness: Ideas and research for the twenty-first century": 9(1), article 1. Available at: digitalcommons.ciis.edu/conscjournal/vol9/iss1/1
    For a real solution, see my: Managing Complexity Through Social Intelligence: Foundations of the Modern Organic Corporatist State Published by Springer link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-25444-4

  • @jamisony
    @jamisony Před rokem

    Is part of Problem that the software is layered not modular? I’m not a coder, so don’t know details though.

  • @PeanutB
    @PeanutB Před rokem +1

    Rare to see an actual good interview on the subject. Good layman explanation of the situation.

  • @Anders01
    @Anders01 Před rokem

    Eric Schmidt is very clever about these things! It will be interesting to hear his take on AI.

  • @marymcclunglaw5342
    @marymcclunglaw5342 Před rokem

    Here it comes!

  • @dennisadams4392
    @dennisadams4392 Před rokem +1

    this is about right guys :)

  • @iainmackenzieUK
    @iainmackenzieUK Před rokem +7

    Question -
    Can you foresee a situation where we might employ our own, individual AI system to inform and protect us from and flag up warnings about other AI's?
    Using our own AI's to shield us from the effect of other AI??

    • @mc9723
      @mc9723 Před rokem +1

      Bill Gates notes mention a lot about us having personal agents, it would make sense that that could be added on to tasks our agent performs

    • @B-M.B
      @B-M.B Před rokem +3

      What make you think that your own created AI, can be trusted over others AI? If you train it to protect you, it will, even if it's overreacting (which will happen), how do you know and prevent that, if you don't recheck that because you're trusting your AI more than over others?
      You get trapped into your own protected bubble, where your AI "protects" you more and more because you questioned it not on its first overreacting...

    • @nayaknaresh
      @nayaknaresh Před rokem +1

      AI is going to get cognitive and intelligent. If genetics scientists train their private AI, it will become very proficient in its field of genetics, much more intelligent than general AI, but general AI will figure out about this private AI in genetics and will decide to hack into this private AI on its own accord. There will be a battle of competing AI.

    • @Skynet_the_AI
      @Skynet_the_AI Před rokem

      He said CHiA NAH

    • @iainmackenzieUK
      @iainmackenzieUK Před rokem

      @@GodisGracious1031Ministries I really believe that you are trying to be helpful. But this all sounds so alien. It has no soul. No deeper sense of reality or truth. But then I guess you would say something like I have the devil in me or something like that?

  • @markm4367
    @markm4367 Před rokem

    OMG, I had no idea!

  • @dianagross8784
    @dianagross8784 Před rokem +16

    Twenty percent good and eighty percent bad is the future of AI

  • @hansh5150
    @hansh5150 Před rokem

    Two of the most respected people when it comes to history and tech, by 2030 the world will have shifted, we just do not know what the conseqences will be. It is a great discussion and will leave you sleepless for days

  • @TrippSaaS
    @TrippSaaS Před rokem

    Tools and weapons by Brad Smith is a good read. The promise and danger lies in the application.

  • @agritech802
    @agritech802 Před rokem

    I agree with Eric about regulating social media and the internet and how AI will exaggerate flaws that are already there, I have been advocating for this for number of years and I think it's crucial to mitigating some of the risks we are faced with

  • @emilywilson7308
    @emilywilson7308 Před rokem

    Wow!

  • @rfkyt
    @rfkyt Před rokem

    I'm looking forward to Walter's book that will summarize and provide perspective based on his interviews. Writing it will be a cinch for him.

  • @joshuap9580
    @joshuap9580 Před rokem +1

    Eric Schmidt is a very smart individual

  • @code82star12
    @code82star12 Před rokem

    Best AI Interview I seen

  • @jayl271322
    @jayl271322 Před rokem

    Well, that was terrifying.

  • @christianfaust5141
    @christianfaust5141 Před rokem +1

    After 4 weeks intensive communications with chatGPT...I can only say it's unimaginable big...

  • @liberty-matrix
    @liberty-matrix Před rokem +1

    WTF ll, @ 13:40 : "The future of a war is a war that takes a millisecond, the whole thing occurred in a millisecond. That's faster than human decision making time, which means that our defensive systems are going to have to be on a hair trigger. And they're going to have to be invoked by AI, that we don't fully understand." ~Eric Schmidt, 03/23/2023

  • @hurleypiano3953
    @hurleypiano3953 Před rokem

    Cool acoustics

  • @busyworksbeats
    @busyworksbeats Před rokem

    So, we forgot about: Angels, Giants and the gods of religion…?

  • @annac____97
    @annac____97 Před rokem +2

    Well this was tough to hear. Someone please tell me there’s hope that we’ll be sane and safe!

    • @denniszenanywhere
      @denniszenanywhere Před rokem +1

      Move to another country with good healthcare, low cost of living, free college and good retirement plan? And if another country implements a universal basic income, move there? As for the AI itself, move to a country with the heavier regulation against it. This may protect jobs.

    • @TheWolfanderson
      @TheWolfanderson Před rokem

      @@denniszenanywhere This is gonna be a global phenomenon there will be nowhere to escape unless only a few countries implement UBI then they will close their borders when the masses come flooding in.

    • @armin3057
      @armin3057 Před rokem +1

      not really. my friends works in AI safety in a famous institute as a researcher....and he is deeply scared lol

  • @user-go1xy5hm8f
    @user-go1xy5hm8f Před rokem

    Great

  • @Known-unknowns
    @Known-unknowns Před rokem

    I’ve long believed the media makes people upset. They’re not really that upset, it’s just that the BBC and Sky like it that way. The newspapers like it when we are upset, keeps the share price up.

  • @josephvanname3377
    @josephvanname3377 Před rokem

    Reversible computing is the future. People need to learn about reversible computing so that they become informed about the future of computation and AI.

  • @krismatic_
    @krismatic_ Před rokem

    For perspective, all you need is to visualize a single human who has developed an algorithm that's capable of mirroring that human's thoughts. How does that human interact with its invention? What does it do with it? What does this invention do to their sense of self? Likely it will just be a tool to help it solve problems much much quicker.

  • @daminc
    @daminc Před rokem +1

    "I have no mouth and I must scream"..
    Soon everywhere

  • @suzakico
    @suzakico Před rokem +2

    Wow.. I felt this captures the best characterization of potential threat of AI I was fearful about. Elsewhere I said, that the AI dragon is out of the cave. Hope I am wrong but I felt my fear is confirmed. It seems to be the one way street....