Very lonely and forlorn graves for both of these women. Lack of due process and lack of care given for each of them at the time, as they were considered to be scum.
Wow, what a story. It does sound like they really were not interested in solving the case. Too bad, every life is important no matter your personal life.
I wonder where their pimps were? What about the madam? There pimps, madam, and customers didn’t care about the lives of these women enough to hire a private investigator.
Such a fascinating part of the country! Awful thing that happened to the poor lady. How could a person’s brain go so wrong, they’d even think to hurt someone like that?
The only reason it’s not legal is because the government can’t tax it Prostitution is one of the oldest professions nobody deserves to die like that 🇦🇺
Interesting story. Had to look up where the town is. In the middle of Nowhere Desert with some serious mountain peaks in the distance. In 1951, I doubt they had much in the way of forensic police work way out there. Someone got away with murder, and there’s a chance I’ll guess “he” is still breathing somewhere.
I had an opportunity to just talk to prostitute about her clients once...what she told me was 95 percent of her business was simply lonely men..... 5 percent were creeps....i was surprised ...i dont know what i expected to hear but it wasnt that....
Those lonely men and creeps love these women’s services, but in a case like this, no one cares about them…. Not even their best customers. These men only care about satisfying their needs
@@bigospig sounds like they didn’t try too hard to find the killer, and the victims were prostitutes, probably saying they’re just hookers who cares, probably blamed the victims like they always do.
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Taxscine was actually married to a man named Bonny Ornelas who ended up workin at the mines after the Brothel closed down. It was said she was a very giving woman, very kind and loving. She gave donations to Charities all the time. As far as Alice's situation, in my opinion, I think the one who killed her and her "bar mother" was a law enforcement guy. In my opinion, when botched crime scene stuff happens, it generally because the men in blue are trying to protect a brother in blue. There was a murder that happened in my area back in the 90's that to this day is still unsolved. A girl's body was found just off a snowmobile trail about I think 6 months or so after she went missing. After an autopsy, it was confirmed she was murdered. Now I know rumors have a way of getting around; but one that stuck out to me and made the most sense was that one of the possible persons who could have done this was a cop. The story goes that he had hooked up with the girl off and on and at first she did not know he was married. I guess once she found out she told him she was going to inform his wife that he was cheating on her. It is thought that in order to stop her from doing it, he showed up to her apartment unexpectedly, asking her to go for a drive with him so they could talk about the situation, and he could fill her in on what was going on. She willingly went with him, and it is thought that rather he tried to talk her into keeping quiet and she refused or once he got her out in the middle of nowhere, he suddenly attacked her and left her body just off the side of a snowmobile trail. This all happened just before the snow was to fly and the location in question, no one would even know was there unless they were living or often visited the area. Now the story further goes that a cop who was also a Jehovah Witness had finally informed a few of the other men of what he did, and those men agreed to never speak a word of it because Jehovah's must have each other's backs. What I found even more interesting was about 4 months after the body was found, he decided to take his family and move elsewhere. To this day her murder is still unsolved, and I guess there is a good idea of who committed the crime, but due to lack of solid proof they couldn't bring this guy to justice. To this day the girl's family and friends still try and keep her name out there and still bring up the situation on the anniversary of her death. The police department said they hope someday they will finally get the proof they need and the person in question who killed her.
I have been working in this profession for about eight years, and today I feel I am lucky to be still alive. It is so dangerous, you cannot look into someone's head. There are lots of sick people out there.
Here in the UK we had the same indifference towards prostitutes and women in general by the police at the time of the Yorkshire ripper killings in the 1970’s of course not all the rippers victims were prostitutes in the end most were not .
There is a girl Carlie Guse missing from Chalfant Ca. Since 2018. About 2 hours south of Tonopah NV. Sighting of her partying in Tonopah Nv. Hope she’s found soon.
What kind of Mickey Mouse police department isn’t equipped with a fingerprint system even seventy years ago and i have seen some effed up cemeteries but that one was really bad.
Thank you Lamont for continuing to bring this story and all the other stories you have brought us over the years. I have been following you almost since the beginning. Keep up the excellent work!😃👍👍♥️
@@chicanoduke No, my point was that she could not be accurate about events. It is not a matter of proof versus taking her word. She was somply not capable of making an accurate statement.
Of course those women should be protected. But prostitution is a horrible job for them. Drinking excessively, most likely, is their way of trying to forget the trauma of prostitution. Having prostitution legalized only benefits the pimps.
Always watch your vidoes I dont understand why people are so evil somtimes you dont have a choice and you get into things but therer is so many evil people in this world who want to hurt I dont understand
Based on what little you've said, I tend to believe that Raymond Milan was innocent. I'm highly skeptical that he's guilty. I'm actually very surprised the case against him went to trial. Any DA with a pinch of common sense wouldn't have taken that case.
May they rest in peace as no one deserves that no matter what their line of work is .thank you for sharing their story
Even Barney Fife had an official fingerprint set!
RIP to Alice and all the others who were murdered in this profession. Peace be with all of you 🕊️🕊️🕊️🌈🙏🙏🙏🌈🌹🌹🌹♥️
How many bodies are buried in the desert with no grave
Very lonely and forlorn graves for both of these women. Lack of due process and lack of care given for each of them at the time, as they were considered to be scum.
Wow!😢 What a scary and sad story thank you for sharing this story and remembering these young women!
Many business need more security, especially for women attending bars, even today too many killings.
I grew up 25 minutes west of this place tonopah and I never knew this!! Good find!!!
Poor lady. RIP, Alice. Thanks for the video, Lamont, and stay safe! 😍
Gotta watch out for those quiet ones 😮
It's one of those cases where we may never know who committed these crimes.
RIP 🕊
Wow, what a story. It does sound like they really were not interested in solving the case. Too bad, every life is important no matter your personal life.
I wonder where their pimps were? What about the madam? There pimps, madam, and customers didn’t care about the lives of these women enough to hire a private investigator.
I am so saddened, that you can only find a picture of Alice deceased.
I tried looking for any information on her and I can’t find anything except an ancestry link (hidden behind a paywall)
Such a fascinating part of the country! Awful thing that happened to the poor lady. How could a person’s brain go so wrong, they’d even think to hurt someone like that?
The only reason it’s not legal is because the government can’t tax it
Prostitution is one of the oldest professions nobody deserves to die like that 🇦🇺
Yep. The government wants their cut on everything.... thieves.
So many have been killed , sad!
Interesting story. Had to look up where the town is. In the middle of Nowhere Desert with some serious mountain peaks in the distance. In 1951, I doubt they had much in the way of forensic police work way out there. Someone got away with murder, and there’s a chance I’ll guess “he” is still breathing somewhere.
I had an opportunity to just talk to prostitute about her clients once...what she told me was 95 percent of her business was simply lonely men..... 5 percent were creeps....i was surprised ...i dont know what i expected to hear but it wasnt that....
Those lonely men and creeps love these women’s services, but in a case like this, no one cares about them…. Not even their best customers. These men only care about satisfying their needs
All human life matters. RIP.
May they rest in peace. Good commentary and content.
Never heard of this horrible act. Im glad you made video about this and informed the world what happened 1951
Those places should have more security, and those cops didn’t care enough to do anything
Where is your proof that the cops didn't care?
@@bigospig sounds like they didn’t try too hard to find the killer, and the victims were prostitutes, probably saying they’re just hookers who cares, probably blamed the victims like they always do.
Many have security. And the sex workers have safe words. That somehow are supposed to alert they need help. But you are right
You're talking the fifties when times were different. Even if it was legal many of these people were regulars at the police station.
It's sad that they misspelled Wyoming on her marker.
Hello from Wisconsin, bless her and thank you for sharing the stories of all Lamont.
Thank you so much for the amazing videos you put together. I just lost my brother last month, and watching your videos, and hearing your calming voice telling the stories are helping me get through my grief. I lost my brother, but found you. God knew I needed help during this time, and he sent me you. Thanks again for all you do.
I am so very sorry for your loss. May your brother Rest Peace.❤
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Taxscine was actually married to a man named Bonny Ornelas who ended up workin at the mines after the Brothel closed down. It was said she was a very giving woman, very kind and loving. She gave donations to Charities all the time. As far as Alice's situation, in my opinion, I think the one who killed her and her "bar mother" was a law enforcement guy. In my opinion, when botched crime scene stuff happens, it generally because the men in blue are trying to protect a brother in blue. There was a murder that happened in my area back in the 90's that to this day is still unsolved. A girl's body was found just off a snowmobile trail about I think 6 months or so after she went missing. After an autopsy, it was confirmed she was murdered. Now I know rumors have a way of getting around; but one that stuck out to me and made the most sense was that one of the possible persons who could have done this was a cop. The story goes that he had hooked up with the girl off and on and at first she did not know he was married. I guess once she found out she told him she was going to inform his wife that he was cheating on her. It is thought that in order to stop her from doing it, he showed up to her apartment unexpectedly, asking her to go for a drive with him so they could talk about the situation, and he could fill her in on what was going on. She willingly went with him, and it is thought that rather he tried to talk her into keeping quiet and she refused or once he got her out in the middle of nowhere, he suddenly attacked her and left her body just off the side of a snowmobile trail. This all happened just before the snow was to fly and the location in question, no one would even know was there unless they were living or often visited the area. Now the story further goes that a cop who was also a Jehovah Witness had finally informed a few of the other men of what he did, and those men agreed to never speak a word of it because Jehovah's must have each other's backs. What I found even more interesting was about 4 months after the body was found, he decided to take his family and move elsewhere. To this day her murder is still unsolved, and I guess there is a good idea of who committed the crime, but due to lack of solid proof they couldn't bring this guy to justice. To this day the girl's family and friends still try and keep her name out there and still bring up the situation on the anniversary of her death. The police department said they hope someday they will finally get the proof they need and the person in question who killed her.
Stay safe out there, and rock on, Lamont!💜✌
I wish Women find other ways to earn money then selling their body.
I have been working in this profession for about eight years, and today I feel I am lucky to be still alive. It is so dangerous, you cannot look into someone's head. There are lots of sick people out there.
Get out before something happens to you. Keeping you in prayer. 🙏❤️
If prostitution is legal in some areas; the women should be protected. And no, I don’t condone it.
Why don't they protect themselves?
Good Morning, Lamont!
Raymond could have been living a double life!
Plus more than likely the cops were frequently engaging in the entertainment!
Love your work Lamont ❤
I hope these ladies are at peace 🌹
Here in the UK we had the same indifference towards prostitutes and women in general by the police at the time of the Yorkshire ripper killings in the 1970’s of course not all the rippers victims were prostitutes in the end most were not .
More and more unsolved anymore yes you have a actor watching you btw 😊
Really?
Which actor???
An actor is watching him? Which actor? Is he or she a famous actor?
@@cathywhite9415obviously John goodman 😂
There is a girl Carlie Guse missing from Chalfant Ca. Since 2018. About 2 hours south of Tonopah NV. Sighting of her partying in Tonopah Nv. Hope she’s found soon.
I've never heard of her being in Tonopah, let alone partying there... first time I've heard that. Such a strange story.
I got the information from people magazine investigates. A new series of missing people. The FBI are running test on a vehicle involved.
This is a good video Lamont THANK you , still love the Gilligan island vid ( Dawn wells ) THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA.......
I can sit and listen to you and watch you all day long. You're so adorable. Plus you're good at what you do. ❤
Dang that was somebody's daughter
I love how different and interesting everyone of your videos are.❤
What kind of Mickey Mouse police department isn’t equipped with a fingerprint system even seventy years ago and i have seen some effed up cemeteries but that one was really bad.
its legal. volunteer fire department has a brothel wow.
Take care lemont and God bless
That Sure is an ugly cemetery!
It's cool u tell stories and narrate them too u make a good actor keep up the good work
I spent for years at Nellis Air Force base.
Hi Lamont!! Luv your work. I often listen at work with the door to my office closed😊…
Very sad
believe it or not most places dont have police capable of taking fingerprints to this day...they have to call their state fbi in to do it.
Thank you Lamont for continuing to bring this story and all the other stories you have brought us over the years. I have been following you almost since the beginning. Keep up the excellent work!😃👍👍♥️
Geez this is sad
Tonopah is a very interesting place. Good video, thanks.
So she gives a name,,and says this guy did it,,,and a jury says no he didnt...
She had severe head trauma, and could not be a reliable witness.
@scallopohare9431 So you say..they should of proved her wrong instead of believing she was lying
@@chicanoduke No, my point was that she could not be accurate about events. It is not a matter of proof versus taking her word. She was somply not capable of making an accurate statement.
Thanks for sharing this case.
Such a big fan Lamont. Just watched your Hector Camacho video. Anyways, love all your channels,
I was going to say….600 MILES?!?! I learned on ‘Soft White Underbelly’ that prostitution wasn’t legal in Las Vegas, but is outside of the city.
Ty for all your work
Awesome video Lamont hope you're well buddy .
Have the safe trip 🤗
THANK U FOR ALL THE GOOD STORES FROM SOUTH AFRICA
I love all you videos Lamont great job thanks be careful buddy
The picture is horrific!
No need to use "sex worker", that's garbage media giant AP started.
Good morning Lamont ❤😊😊
My kinda lady
Hey Lamont, how are you? I went to Vegas and won $14K
Heck yeah 👊👊
Oh, good to see you again.
Lamont have you been doing your hat design? Just curious?
I Have Never Been Involved With A Prostitute Here in Ohio I Do Not Believe there is a Brothel here
Its illegal outside certain counties in Nevada
@@GreeneyedKittyNKimJongMeow I,m Not Sure in Ohio Yet
There probably is, just very well concealed from public view. You would be surprised.
may not be a legal one in ohio but i assure you that there are "brothels" ..usually they are massage parlors..near military bases....
It’s on an episode of people magazine investigate. A new series of missing people. A guy came forward of seeing her in tonopah.
Of course those women should be protected. But prostitution is a horrible job for them. Drinking excessively, most likely, is their way of trying to forget the trauma of prostitution.
Having prostitution legalized only benefits the pimps.
Thumbs 👍 friend.🌈🙏🇺🇲
Intents and purposes, NOT "intensive purposes".
Go Away.
He said it correct.
Yes he said it correctly.
@@johnt.kennedy3856 *correctly* and no, he did not.
@@kimberlythompson926 sorry, no.
Always watch your vidoes I dont understand why people are so evil somtimes you dont have a choice and you get into things but therer is so many evil people in this world who want to hurt I dont understand
Why didn't you show the pic of Alice deceased?
Based on what little you've said, I tend to believe that Raymond Milan was innocent. I'm highly skeptical that he's guilty. I'm actually very surprised the case against him went to trial. Any DA with a pinch of common sense wouldn't have taken that case.
Lamont, I really don,t condone prostitution either, but, unfortunately, this is the risks you take being in that kind of business.
Very sad. But true
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You're cute, Lamont
😂😂
He’s single too…
Maybe a medium could help?
❤❤😊❤😊❤😊
Hi,
Hello
............ meh .
I've much better would prefer the terms sex worker,not to be rude. Thanks 🙏
Did you go into the desert and look at the mine shafts in Tonopah???
It was the miner
Let's cuddle Lamont