Metal Detecting: Nasty Soil Depth Test - XP Deus 2 vs Equinox vs Legend vs CTX 3030
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Just a quick "grain of salt" test showing how nasty soil conditions can trouble even the BEST of metal detectors. No 14-inch depth tests here folks (I wish). No - we didn't test gold rings and nickels and 50 different settings. We just wanted to show how the minerals can affect the "big dogs" of the hobby in park modes - at the park - as we are park hunters. EDIT: All 4 detectors were at stock ground balance settings to ensure no incorrect values being a very trashy park. It is nearly impossible to ground balance an 11-inch coil at this park. NOTE TO SKEPTICS: Deus 2 default is 87 ground balance...my soil is 85-86 if you watch the Deus 2 review video - where I did ground balance it and tried multiple modes. AGAIN - this is a "grain of salt" test just like every other test on CZcams. Settle down ya nerds.
Excellent DEMO and Testing, John! Thank you.
You are the ULTIMATE source for detecting information - hands down !!!!!
Oh stop it...I mean more...more! You are too kind Liz...thank you.
Yep, I agree. I'm glad I found his channel.
Nice demo John. One thing that stood out was when you mentioned trashy park. I would never run any machine like them in that way if it were a trashy area. That being said it was a neat test. Like you said the difference in signal from 8" to 10" is pretty wild!
Thanks. I would not either. But for the purposes of this test wide open was the way to. I am a tone break and notch lover, and will cherry pick first, deal with the trash later as my final resort.
Awesome video. I love seeing the real love comparisons
Thank you!
THIS is testing. This, is where we discover if our expensive, much vaunted machine/s are worth their price marker/s. Throw in a bucketful or ten of old nails, et al, and we have a scenario that tears the so-called testing of machines to shreds. There are no hiding places here. No soft soil to impress the 'depth monster brigade'. These test formats are for realists, not 'dodgers and divers'. Bravo to you, as a dealer, for giving us a vastly more 'rounded' and realist appraisal, rather than pander to the egos of the masses. You are right up on a level with the likes of Keith; as a TRUE hard-core tester. You shame the egotists and blaggards. Bravo John.
Ha. Thanks Tim...you are too kind good sir. No hype or fluff needed...I don't really care what wins. They all are so close it is a moot point. Anybody who owns one of these detectors should be a pig in poop.
Soil like this is normal for me. Colorado was extremely similar, maybe even worse. When I see a 14 inch dime test on CZcams...I can only shake my head. Kudos to people that have soil like that, but that is not the reality for the other 9/10ths of the country. The soil here sounds like there is a square nail every 2 inches - but is just rusty pocketing from black sand. Sometime those rusty pockets can even high tone false. Makes for interesting detecting no doubt.
Hunter, amazing, you picked the four big dog machines I wanted to see up against each other. Great video Hunter and actually it turned out just about how I figured it would. I have the NOX 800, the E-trac, and the Deus II, but not the CTX, it's a little too expensive for me. Hay, eight inches for all four, that is not bad. Thanks Hunter, I found your channel about a month ago and am liking it.
Thanks Harry...I appreciate that. 8 inches is very good in my soil - and I am happy with the performance of the Legend and Deus 2 that I own. Some people seem to have the theory that X setting will magically make it hit 10-11-12 inches like other videos...just ain't happening in this soil.
@@thehuntergt Curious to know, which is your favorite for finding the goods?
Great demo here. I have the Nox and the CTX. This is making me want to rethink why I put the CTX down for a while. It’s coming back out with the 17” coil this weekend. Thanks for sharing this and good luck out there
CTX is a beast no doubt. Thanks for watching. Best of luck out there.
I have both also, the answer is , "it's heavy" 🤣😂🤣😂.
Cause of the weight, I've had 2 different CTX's with 17" and the weight is unbearable after a couple of hours. The newer design on detectors is going lightest as possible, as the other 3 machines in this video. The customization of the CTX target programs is THE best tho.
Great video. I like how you did that Scenario. A real look at Reality
Thanks for watching Ken. It's just one test. I could show each one of these 4 beating the others in some singular test. Horses for courses.
Awesome video John and Javier! This is a great comparison of the machines in the mineralized soil. I live in OH but I’m going to plant a test garden with several coins when the ground **thaws** enough to dig it. Thanks guys!
Thanks! Buried over time is always a better test over a fresh buried one like this. But it is telling all the same. I have a perfect fescue sod paradise in my back yard...no test bed for me. 😎
What part of Ohio. I live in central Ohio.
@@mattparks5621 Near Mansfield
@@mattparks5621 40 minutes East of Columbus here
@@jeffhunter9311 like Zanesville?
Thanks for the video, I agree, the CTX is superior at deep silver coins, I use the Nox for everything else but the CTX is well ahead on silver coins, and if you put that 17x13" coil on it then it blows the Nox away even with it's 15x12" coil.
Thanks for watching. If they can get the CTX into a better body and improve it to Deus type level iron work...might be the best detector ever made right there.
Great head to head comparison in hot soil! Looks like the CTX did the best!
Thanks Nick. CTX is a beast for sure.
I live in Durham NC and our soil is pure red clay. I've found the Nox does really well on frequency 10 vs multi in extremely mineralized soil. Love love love my 800.
Glad you like it. Great detector no doubt. We cannot get the Deus - Nox - Legend to hit the 10in any mono or MF modes. We tried like hell.
This video convinced me that I should Save my money for a 3030 and just use what I have for now.. If I was loaded with money I would love to buy all kinds of detectors just because this hobby is so much fun and I love digging up what ever I can.. Thanks GT
Always a pleasure Dan! This hobby ain't cheap, that is for sure. Between this and my PC gaming addiction...it is tough budgeting!
@@thehuntergt wicked..
Awesome vid. Swung the Nox for two years awesome machine, upgraded to the CTX sniffed out coins my Nox missed CTX rules once you learn the machine and it’s capabilities in my opinion.
Thanks. Not much can match it on deep silver, that is for sure. It they can put it in a better body, and increase relic site capability - that would be the best detector ever in my opinion.
Wonder if the fisher f75se would hit it cause I know u like it and I got one wile back lol IV been impressed with it quite deep seems to hit coins pretty great in my mild Michigan soil what u think bud ?
Good test thanks
Deus1 hunter for 7.5 years. Deus 2 for 3 hours. Lol just got it. Anyways with the nox I guess I'd dig that 10" dime if it was beginning of the day or middle of a good day. Energy level and mental state play a huge roll in my sketchy tone recoveries. Nice video man! Thanks!
I agree 100% with this. Which is why we should hunt behind any person with any machine. Sometimes your head is just not into it and you miss targets. Thanks for the comment.
Nice test Hunter !!!!! 👌
Thanks!
Great Test, I thought the Equinox did really well for 4 year old technology, it did that well I have just grabbed a used 6 month old bargain very cheep. 😉
Nox is a great performing machine...no doubt about that.
Great side by side John!!! I knew the ctx would be better in the test.
Thanks Papa. It's pretty good for sure.
Excellent video thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Curious, were other 3 Instruments in the off position as each was being tested? It would’ve been interesting to see if different modes would help to try to hit the 10 inch. Just for our learning purposes
Yup - they were all turned off as some of them do not play nice with each other. I may re-visit this in another longer video with multiple settings. For the sake of time - this was just a quick test showing how soil can kill detectors.
I just bought a nokta anfibio before Christmas so it would have been nice to see that in the test but it's nice to see the two new ones aren't much better than the older models good job Hunter
Anfibio is very good, one of my favorites. I will be doing a test with it coming up as well as the Simplex. Just for fun.
Very cool hunter thank you very much
Good video!
Nice comparison’s mate
Thanks!
For anything but gold is 3030 almost top of the top? In other words should i consider those which cost double, i am not so picky but i definitely want to find stuff 2 inch deeper! I wonder how long it take to learn use 3030 hah
Top quality video keep up the good finds
Glad you enjoyed
So I have equinox 600 and thinking of another detector. Would you recommend the legend or deus? I’m just thinking at the moment. And the ctx is way out my price. Or do I just stick with my equinox. I do have a simplex and bounty hunter also
The Legend and D2 are both great...I consider them both "settings" upgrades to the 600 since the performance of the 600 is near identical to the 800 in most areas. Lack of advanced settings is the only thing that holds it back in a comparisons.
Beautiful 😻 thanks
Good honest test. Maybe try in field mode at some point 👍
I like to see these comparison tests however ground and soil conditions vary from state to state town to town yard to yard etc. so this outcome could’ve been totally different Pennsylvania or southern Florida. But still cool to see and gives you some insight.
But definitely does not prove an overall winner at all when it comes to test like this because like I soil conditions are different everywhere. I do enjoy your videos and your knowledge of detecting is right up there at the top!
That is literally the point of this video. Showing that 14-15 inch dimes are unrealistic for many people west of the Mississippi. Shills who promote such nonsense in cotton candy soil are ridiculous. Appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching.
I recommend you use tadpole 2 programme on the CTX3030(not silver)with deep selected, 30 manual and you will hit 14 inches. It will be faint but workable.
Now your talking great video,keep the good work
XP Deus 2 vs Equinox vs Legend do you still have all 3 machines ? im not sure to get deus 2 yet or not i have the other ones and deus 1
are you running them all in single or multi ?
I sold the Deus 2 and Equinox - still own the Legend. The Deus 2 is the "best" of the three choices in my personal opinion - but my pal offered me a good price for it, and I rarely detect any more due to health, so I sold it. All tests were in multi-mode with a stock ground balance.
I have the CTX 3030 with the 17” coil.
Go ctx baby, got to love it . Great test buddy.
I thought you might like it lol. Thanks!
@@thehuntergt My confidence wasn't as great as it should be . When the CTX hit the dime I immediately saved hundreds of dollars lol . Lol
Great video. Nox and ctx got the closest but probably would have not dug either in a park setting. Really the name of the game is separation not so much depth. If there is a ton of junk up high in the ground detectors probably won’t see something that deep anyhow. Great video fair comparison in my opinion.
Thanks! I agree 100% separation is much more important for me. I've dug many 2-4 silver - wheats - buffs - Vs at this park and the lake. 1960's beaver tails sitting all over the hard compact surface at both locations. Items just don't sink here unless landscaping has happened. Depth is the least of my concerns...usually.
For me, digging those iffy signals works. I can remember digging a silver dollar down nine inches in California with a NOX 800 and an iffy signal. I would have dug the CTX signal for sure.
@@harrysurtees8710 I 100% would have dug the CTX signal as well. The Nox when it hit was good...but then next sweeps it would not. So up in the air on that one. Can't dig what you can't hear.
This has been my experience exactly. On my property in Ca the soil may even be worse than yours. But the CTX seems to just edge every other out on depth like your test.
It punches deep, that is for sure. Impressive that is also gives a proper ID many sweeps.
@TheHunterGT There are machines that unmask better, that are lighter but nothing id's like a ctx. My good finds ratio is far and above the highest while running it. Basically the most fun machine to run for me because of it. The only machine also that 100% dependably I can not dig Corona caps. 😀
I would love to just be lucky enough to have that one THE LEGEND metal detector
Hopefully that happens soon.
Hi Hunter, thank you for the professional test. May I suggest another test? You could let the ORX, DEUS I and DEUS II compete against each other. A Dime Silver would again be a very good test object. A prior air test would be beneficial for all of us. Then we could compare our detectors with it. I am thinking of the update of the DEUS II, where there was a loss of depth in some cases after the update. As in my case.
Thanks for watching Peter. I do not have a D1 unfortunately. Likely won't be getting one since I have the Orx and D2 already. There is a new update for the D2 that fixes the previous update issues. A re-install from the website will fix it right up.
@@thehuntergt Hello Hunter, first of all thank you for your answer. It's a pity that you don't have the DEUS I available. I did another update two days ago, but unfortunately it didn't fix my loss of depth. I guess I will have to wait for the next update then. Otherwise, I can always send it back to the dealer for checking.
Air test with DEEP HC, standard values, no EMI, one dime silver, weak signal: 21 cm.
but HunterGT ... if you turn down the undgerlator on that one machine and upped the froameter on the other one ... I'm sure glad my soil is different than that, (in most places) ... quite an eye opener
LOL - I expect more than a few comments like that. Most people don't read the pinned comment - or other comments before they dive in with the blah blah stuff. This soil sucks...no doubt about that.
Great test of a lot of good machines there. But since you're in the park I really like to see just for laughs what a new updated F75 would do on that 10-inch dime I'm thinking it's probably going to hit it. Maybe that's another test you could do in the field... multi frequency versus single frequency... which gets deeper?
Thanks. I will try to do something like that soon. I don't have an F75...but do have other top end single freqs.
Yeah I think the bisstool would get it. The fact it's 2.4kqz..... but ...but...the Deus 2 would get it in mono!!!
@@buddywilliamson3098 The Blisstool works on 8.2khz...
@@hubsi5263 well v3 operates at 8.0....
@@thehuntergt Anfibio Multi would challenge them possibly..?
CTX kinda woot ! thanks for the side by side !
Always a pleasure Paul!
CTX is a beast of a machine. Also it is the most difficult to use in my opinion. Thanks for the great video!!
Agreed. Thanks for watching!
@Ricky Johnson There is ZERO scenario where the F75 is deeper than the CTX in hot dirt...even with boost are cache mode it is not touching a CTX.
I will not say that its a beast but it is a great great machine, looked a bit like a gun from the obi won kenobi family but i am used to it now and i actually completely get happy just by lookin at it 👍🏽👍🏽
Its a decent , reliable and undisturbed machine ..
It is happy in any kind of scenario ecxcept when it is extremely trashy .. because the swingspeed you end up with is close to standing still .
For any other scenario ..
Not think anything can push it down.
I’m impressed with how the CTX did here. I really expected the Deus 2 to nail it and surprised it didn’t. I have a CTX and am committed to buying a Deus 2. I’m beginning to wonder though if I’d really be getting a significant improvement over my Equinox now though.
If your soil is nasty like this...I would not think so. In softer soils, the script can flip and the Deus 2 ends up being very deep. CTX stretches then as well, perhaps even better. XP machines have always been "average" as far as mineral handling, for sure Minelab is better (my opinion). But as you can see here, no detector is great. That being said - in tough soil like this, nothing sinks deep - usually. So separation and recovery speed become more important than depth...Deus 2 is just about king there.
I have an E-trac and the NOX 800. My Deus II came four weeks ago. First two weeks I struggled, mainly because I don't know how to program. I finally set up the Deus II so nickles sound good at (61-63) and copper pennies and above (91- 99) sound off loud and high pitched. Two days ago, I dug an 8 inch silver quarter that read 99 in dry dirt. I am beginning to love the Deus. It's so lightweight, and easy to swing and I getting use to the small screen. At the beach, it went deep, even in dry sand. Give the Deus a chance. I'm guessing in wet soil the Deus performs better. I should mention, I live in California.
Try the CTX and the D2 in normal or trashy fields, than you now the difference...
I would say it’s a given that Deus shines in commingled targets and CTX is more of an isolated target machine.
I'm in New Hampshire and we hunt mainly old colonial cellar holes. My FORMER friends both used the Nox and at the time I used my Deus 1. Not trying to brag but I blew them out of the water probably 75% of the time. But I never use any discrimination and have my sensitivity cranked all the time. I just know my machine well and learned to listen thru the chatter and always back swing my targets so as to hear any honest trash growl at the target's edge. Nox is a great machine too though! But I just bought the Deus 2 and am so excited. Save the power for the depth and let your mind separate the targets!
Nice comparison but I would have liked to see a 9" target.
If the other detectors got the 9" target, then the question would be.... Do I want to swing more than double the weight of the heaviest competitor for an extra inch of depth.
Fair enough on the 9in target. I just hate soil test videos personally, so rushed this one along in a quicker fashion than normal.
My friend sold his CTX and bought my Deus 2. So, for him, apparently not.
wow, you need to swing it faster, WAY faster, like you're putting out a grassfire. Especially with the minelab set at one recovery.
Thanks for the laugh - I needed that! 😁😁👍
Wish you had an Aka detector or Mars Guass
Can you give me that silver program for the CTX? Thanks
I'll try to remember to ask him.
Good show
Thank you.
You need to add the Manticore to the mix! 😎
CTX has been sold...and I doubt any of my buddies will be buying the Manticore.
Wow interesting!!
Thanks for watching Greg!
it would be even better to bury a rusty iron target and then see how they all react to it. Those who sang beautifully on a 10 inch target will also sing beautifully on this rusty piece of iron.
Equinox with 15" coil in F1 in all metal should be better on the 10 inch target. Deus 2 surprised me, I thought it is going to get it.
I am a skeptic a larger coil would help in these minerals...unless attached to a PI.
Just wondering how reducing the DEUS II discrimination would effect the detection depth?
There is zero difference from 0 to 7 as far as detection depth is concerned.
Hmmmm 🤔
Geez a dime hitting at 60 (higher than a huge silver dollar) and the 10 incher hitting a constant 1 as iron on the Legend...that confuses me.
Better to have a deep dime up average than down average. Even the Equinox was pegging it at 40 many sweeps...which is "60" on its scale. The 1-2 ID on the Legend is almost always going to be soil feedback. The "G" setting cancels it so you would not hear the ground on swings. Hope that helps.
Why didn’t you see how the T2 or F75 would do against those other detectors.
Does First Texas make a machine that can hang with these guys?
Are the T2 and F75 relavent any more?
These are all simultaneous multi-frequency detectors here, when First Texas releases one I will surely revisit this test. I will be doing a test with the Anfibio - T2 - Impact - Simplex...which are all single frequency machines.
T2 will likely detect the 10" but will call it iron.
@Ricky Johnson While I don't have a F75 I have two T2's and there is no way int he world they'd smoke an Equinox or CTX on deep coins, the T2 likes to call all deep targets iron where as the Nox and CTX are far more accurate on ID at depth. The T2 and F75 are now dinosaurs
Try a Fisher 75 SE I out dug most here. Deeeep good trash t2 se good to
Talking about that nasty soil, how much is mineralized? Mineralization strenght is high?
When pumping the coil - I can peg almost any mineral meter on any brand detector.
@@thehuntergt That’s mineralized soil because D2 is very sensitive and deep on low conductors targets on hot soil and very deep on mild and low mineralized grounds. Nice test!
@@AllMetalDetecting Thanks. Agreed, I think it would have zero issues hitting a nickel or lead bullet in this soil. Or even a silver quarter which is larger. Dimes are pretty small signals for this soil.
@@thehuntergt Yes, was looking to silver dimes dimensions and have seen thats are smaller than 10 euro cent coins which I use with 20 and 50 euro cent coins during some tests..
think they're all of a sameness. I go on looks on screen and buttons. Nokta takes that for me.
Молодец ,отличный тест, спасибо.
Спасибо.
Do you have the legend pro pack
Just tracking...on the way.
You might want to read a book on ground balancing your machines especially in bad dirt. Your a dealer ? 🤪
Read the pinned comment you complete bell-end moron. I have forgotten more about detecting than you will ever know.
The CTX is still king. Minlab made a good detector with the CTX. Expensive but it's the best out there in my opinion.
For deep silver yes...but in other applications the crown must fall on other heads.
Can this thing detect Sichuan dipping sauce?
Maybe not in this soil...
How about a test in heavy iron, I know who won’t fair well in that one.
How about aluminum...small gold...salt...screw caps...crown caps and 100 different tests each one struggles on?
Hey Hi Hunter. In tricky magnetic soil, detectors work better with higher recovery speeds. I think page 23-24 of the Deus 2 manual mentions that also. Also holding the coil a bit away from the ground can work better. Talking of the Nox: There are different modes suited to different soils. Here in the UK people use beach modes on the land and also Field and Park modes. In my soil field 2 and recovery 6 goes deepest. So you have to experiment with different modes. Park 1 goes deepest in soft dry white sand and benign soils. I use field 2 in the wet salty sand with my special settings not beach.
The Nox settings are very logical and can’t easily be bettered. I can lose the ground chatter and bring it back with one button while still hearing iron. Hearing ground chatter can be a clue to previous habitation or a nuisance.
The Legend probably cannot do that. The Deus 2 is so complicated, most people would just use standard settings. And I an’t see how it could do that either. I have no preference for any make, my comments are not biased. I have a Deus 1 and love it and use it a lot but it has its place.
CTX it is my best detector in the par park
That's long been the problem with comparison videos...disgruntled viewers in the comments always want to critique something and throw out endless "IF" scenarios. "If you would have done this...changed this to that...used X model machine for apples to apples, stood on one leg while squinting at the sun...." etc etc. I had one viewer that got after me because I did a video in the field comparing an MXT with an F75 on Civil War bullets in mineralized soil. The results were the MXT just couldn't get a signal on the bullets beyond a certain depth. He was a very outspoken guy...I was supposed to have this particular DD coil on the MXT and then it would blow any machine away, etc. He said I didn't know what I was doing. So I invited him up to the site with the terms that I would video him with his machine, set however he wanted and we would compare signals. To my surprise he came. We get to the site...which is just a field that was a rifle range during the Civil War. Thousands of minie balls in about the 7-14 inch range. But highly red mineralized soil. We had been there about 30 minutes and I went to check on him...asked if he had found any and he said no...he kinda acted like I had took him somewhere with nothing to find. I told him I had already found 10. He shook his head. I started hunting near him and quickly located 3 signals that I knew were gonna be minie balls. I marked them and called him over. He swung over them...nothing. He had a 10x12 SEF dd coil on his. I let him listen to the F75 to show what I was hearing and he said "that has to be iron junk...that's not a bullet". I dug the bullets out one by one in front of him. On the last of the 3, he wanted to play with his machine over it and couldn't get anything. He tried every setting he could think of. And finally admitted that he was wrong and that that site was the worse dirt he had ever seen lol.
Agreed 100%. thanks for sharing that story. If a person has never hunted this exact soil - they have zero clue what they speak of. Everybody seems to be a master level expert when it comes to CZcams comments. It makes for a good laugh at least.
Try the gold mode on the Legend. It should hit the 10" depth
Likely does as the Deus 2 gold mode hits it per my review video. This was just a quick test for park type modes. Can't use gold mode in this park, a person would go mental.
I think you’ll have better results using 1977 Lincolns 🤔🤪🤔🤪
You bleeping bleep....lol
Well jeez GT. By the comments, looks like you'll have to test about 20 more detectors and use all their modes. Video shouldn't take more than 4 or 5 hours. Why can't people just get out and enjoy themselves with what they got. You got thicker skin than I got bud. I enjoyed the video. Isn't there still a bit of a price difference between the 4?
No good deed goes unpunished. I figure it won't be long before I get requests to hand-draw a flipbook because the camera EMI is getting in the way of results. There is indeed a price difference. Many $ between them all. Just for fun...and to get the masses riled up. 😁 Thanks for watching my man.
ctx is four times more expensive than legend?
At time of recording the Legend was $635...CTX3030 was $2499.
An XP Goldmaxx Power can hit that 10" Dime.
I'm sure it can. 👍
Dues on relic program will hit the coins with no prob
lol...no.
ctx hits best but who wants to swing a machine that heavy for any length of time The nox is a good machine but has poor ergonomics and poor build quality the Legend still has some bugs to work out but is well built The Deus 2 would be my choice it's light well built and can be set up to compete with most any machine thanks
Баланс грунта делался?
Невозможно в этом месте с 11-дюймовой катушкой. Слишком много мусора.
👍
The LEGEND performansı nasıl
Heryerdeyiz👍👍👍
Field is the mode for depth 👍🏼👍🏼
Not in this dirt.
Would’ve liked to seen the AT pro in the Test
I don't own one sorry.
I was surprise how well the nox 800 did, I'd say it was second.
I don't disagree. However, it will not hit with a normal ground balance - only with tracking on. So in theory it was hitting...then nulling out...or maybe even falsing at times. We weren't convinced either way.
The balloon color is all wrong for this particular test, any amateur would know this.
The CTX didn't seem to be $1,400 better than the NOX.
The Nox sure ain't $780 better than the Simplex either
Money means something different to us all. Up to each individual to decide what is worth it.
@@thehuntergt If you have money to burn value plays no part. Many of us have a mortgage and credit card debt to pay down. We can still have a new toy, but maybe not a $2,400 one.
@@DannyB-cs9vx I don't disagree at all.
@@thehuntergt I should have been clearer about value. like you say, to some this is not as important as having what they consider the best.
I took a Tesoro Tejon out to the park today and had a nice time. I should look for more of that instead of gold, ( a nice time).
Como yo llevo el deus programado no la huele el ctx😊
Minelab keeps selling machines that claim to be waterproof but ALWAYS leak eventually. Very dumb decision to just keep selling faux "waterproof" machines. So if I want to hunt in water I`ll get the Simplex or try to find a used AT PRO. I`m poor, so I can`t afford to buy a lot of things, but even if you GAVE me an Equinox I couldn`t use it in water! But I know places that I can go in the water with a machine and make money. All my detectors have always paid for themselves and made me money. I still love detecting for fun and finding a few coins is always a thrill, but you have to go after the real treasure too because it`s out there.
I don’t think you were fair with the Deus , only using one program , and not using 0 relativity , I hunt in that very useable , and did you ground balance ? I have owned a CTX equinox and I know for a fact The Deus is deeper in my soil.
It's reactivity - relativity is the Einstein stuff. This isn't your soil, obviously. To think because X detector goes deeper in your soil that must hold true everywhere - is beyond silly. As the pinned comment clearly says, we didn't want to use 50 different settings and modes for each detector. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the video - or that your favorite detector didn't win. Feel free to go make your own videos and show us all how it is done. I will gladly watch. Thank you for the view! 👍
@@thehuntergt Hunter, I was wondering how you were going to answer this comment? You made me laugh again, thanks. This guy is no Einstein.
Sorry you can’t take A little criticism , and I understand you have a reputation , as a know it all, and a smart ass and you have to entertain your CZcams subscribers after all that is where the $ is . all of the detectors you use for the test are all good Detector’s , and I think you should use the one that you like the most , and The argument which is the best detector , there is no good answer each detector has it’s strengths and weaknesses like you said the Deus is good in iron , I also have hot soil 8 to 10 inches is about max for a dime . In conclusion I will continue to check out your Channel you never know I might just learn something . have you ever heard the saying iron sharpens iron , or there’s a proverb that says every man is right in his own mind , and I think most of us fall into that category . I am a old man so be gentle on your reply.
@@chuckswenson8044 I can take criticism. Many people simply do not know how to give it. You prance into my comment section saying you know for a "fact" the Deus 2 is deeper. You tell me I should have done this or that better for a quick 9 minute video without reading the pinned comment. You use incorrect terminology while trying to correct me. You call me unfair which implies I am stacking the deck or something nefarious. That is pretty rich cake you are serving. As for the rest - the argument for what is "best" is about as silly as it gets. We can agree that each detector can do things the other cannot. I 100% uploaded this video expecting snarky responses and replies. Which is why I can flip on and off the "smartass"...as you so eloquently put it. I hope you continue to stick around and check out the channel. I like proverbs, and am getting to be an old dude myself.
Thanks very good response,I guess I must have come across as a smart ass also. I do know the CTX likes silver especially on the gulf beaches in Texas with a 17 in coil , mainly got rid of it because is was just to heavy and it did not like the soil In Mn . replaced it with a Deus about 5 years ago and it has served me well. And when the equinox came out I bought one of them it was OK but I preferred the deus . Bought a deus II this year it was amazing in Texas on the beach. (The word Deus means God I Latin) so I always try to spell it with a small d it is good but it is by no means superior , it is just a metal detector . (We know there are many gods small g) thanks for your response.
CTX 3030 Rules.
Conclusión.. porfavor..
All 4 are great - but none can handle this bad soil well.
Good video.
Try bumping up reactivity to 3 on the deus2. On Reactivity 1 sweep speed should be slower.
I only have one issue with this. You're running the machines on the lowest recovery speed for max depth which is cool but you're still swinging them like a jedi. Lowest recovery speed means lowest swing speed as well. Just because one machine is on 1 it doesn't mean that all 1's are equal so I'd like to see multiple swing speeds for each machine. That will also mean you can't put your targets a foot apart......spread them out. Lower swing speeds require more space to scan more ground. It may not change the results in any way but I suspect that the variations in price are going to show up in the CPU speeds which might make some difference. It's possible all of them can hit the 10 incher with a bit of swing discipline. :)
We tested off camera for almost 3 hours before hitting record. We swung each direction with every sweep speed possible - every setting possible - every program possible. For the sake of the video not being 45 minutes of blah blah blah...I used a very acceptable swing speed. I will disagree I was swinging like a Jedi. I will also disagree that wildly changing your swing speed because you lower/raise your reactivity is as helpful as you think it is. I will actually prove it in an upcoming test video - as I have heard this incorrect theory many times before. Time to put it to bed once and for all.
@@thehuntergtIf you say you already did that I'll trust you. I just went by my opinion of what I see in the video. I'd be interested in the recovery test actually. Most people swing over multiple targets hear a lot of noise and think "wow that's fast". Calabash did a short video a while back of the deus 2 in recovery speed with nine targets and a bit of iron in there. Anyway he swings fast then uber fast but if you slow the video down to .25 and knock out the double tones coming off the edge of the coils on the ends of his swing at best the machine only hits 5 targets, mostly 4 and only 3 at uber swing speed. It was missing 50% of the targets from the start, despite sounding impressive. Had he done slow swing on video I think it would have done a much better job. I could be wrong, that's why it's important to vary the speeds. If nothing else its nice to know the sweet spots should one purchase any of the machines you're testing.
@@MrBottlecapBill We can agree there. The sweet spot is key. That is the most important aspect of the hobby in my eyes - knowing the detectors optimal swing speed. In most of my "review" videos I show a recovery speed test where I swing slow and then fast to see where the actual drop-off is. Not perfect by any means. I'll try to get a video up in the next few weeks about this topic. HH
I totally agree with you.
AT Pro would of hit it😜
At 14 inches...
@@thehuntergt lolz
1600 dollar machine cant even beat the 900 dollar machine at depth in stock program .. wow... think ill hold to buy the deus 2.
This is just one test in difficult soil. I bought the Deus II and am beginning to love the machine, and I live in California. I just dug an 8 inch silver quarter. I hunt the beach sometimes, and walking around in the sand, with a less than two-pound machine makes a BIG difference. I love my titanium sand scoop too, and it doesn't dig any better than my stainless steel (heavy) scoop. Weight matters, and on the beach, the Deus II goes deep.
Harry is correct. This test is in some of the worst soil in the country. The Deus 2 does MANY other things better than the other 3 detectors. There is no perfect detector, each one will win at something. This is just one test.
@@harrysurtees8710 true this is just one test which i think the soil is like mine. Moderate to high mineralize soil with ferrous/can slaw everywhere. Weight doesn't matter much for me. I'm looking for performance differences of 600 dollar excluding the weight.
@@thehuntergt Hi man thanks for the reply, can you explain to me the "Deus 2 does MANY other things better than the other 3 detectors". Im looking for the performance differences to justify the 600 dollar between the nox and the deus 2 and if you can show it in the video its much better for me to make the buying decision. Thank you man
@@zulizwan1739Yep, I hear yah.
I want a detector that can find a dime twenty feet down with exact precision. I want to know why they haven't made that yet!!! 🤬🤬🤬😡😠
Don't forget we want to tell gold from aluminum...and have a dedicated meteorite mode. 😎
@@thehuntergt You're darn right we do! 🤣
I've seen natural gas locators using a detector that can detect their pipes up to 15 ft underground.
bizarre ce test des personnes on testé le deus 2 et le CTX 3030 sur la plage et le deus 2 va plus profond de 10 cm sur toutes les cibles.
weird this people test over tested the deus 2 and the CTX 3030 on the range and the deus 2 goes 3,93701 pouces deeper on all targets.
De nombreux testeurs sur CZcams ont de la terre à barbe à papa. C'est le sol de Satan - et le CTX est le plus profond autour de ces parties.
Being a Deus dealer I wouldn’t think you would Stack the deck , but I think you did
What does being a dealer have to do with this test? I let my audience (and customers) make their own decisions without BS hype. Your logic is beyond stupid - as I make the most % of revenue off of XP - yet show it could not hit the 10 inch dime at all. I do not even sell Minelab - yet I show them both getting hits. So how exactly did I stack the deck? If you are going to accuse me of something, have the balls to explain yourself with some sort of logic, coward.
@@thehuntergt Love it, you told him like it is, and that made me laugh. This guy is absolutely 100% wrong.
I don’t think he stacked the deck. There are a couple versions of the big number 0.6 Deus update. If he was on version 08-03-22, rather than 11-03-22 it would significantly impact depth. The two versions are why you have half of Deus 2 users reporting loss of depth and tone smearing, and the other half calling those guys crazy. This video was made right around that time.
Just purchased Deus2 this is very depressing
Not sure why. It does great in nails - at the beach - in softer soils - waterproof to 66 feet if you ever dive. Very good machine. People watch soft soil test video and get all hyped up....well don't let this depress you. Your soil is "hopefully" somewhere in between the two extremes. Personally - for my soil - I am extremely happy with 8 inches of depth from all of these detectors.
I've had my Deus II for about a month now, and I am beginning to love it. Don't be depressed, I think you learn to love your Deus II also. Give it a chance. It just being so lite, is a big plus.
I bought one too and was much less enthusiastic after seeing this, but happy for my CTX. When I began to think about the test, it shouldn’t be surprising however. It’s two different kinds of multifrequency for one. Deus 2, Legend, and Equinox are simultaneous multifrequency, which means transmit power is constantly divided. CTX is sequential multifrequency firing it’s frequencies in more of a pulse like manner. As another matter we know from Geotech that the CTX uses and focuses heavily on a low return frequency of 3.125khz along with measuring it’s half-life. We don’t know what all the rest of the machines run in multi in every mode, but we can assume it’s no less than 4khz. 4 and 3.125 doesn’t sound like a big difference, but it’s bigger than it sounds and should give the CTX a slight edge on high conductors.
Lol c’mon nox 800 hit 8” and 10”…you’re just trying to minimize it.
Nice try but no. In a trashy park you would never dig that 10. Maybe a relic site.
Without at least some semblance of your mineralization content, the comparisons don't mean very much.
It's bad soil George...only a moron can't see that.