Preserving History - US Navy Douglas TBD-1 Devastator
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- 3D at Depth Inc., the world's leading expert in subsea LiDAR laser technology and 3D data solutions, has successfully integrating photogrammetry with Subsea laser LiDAR (SL) technology to create reverse engineered 3D models. The technique was developed during an October 2018 expedition with the Air/Sea Heritage Foundation to document the largely intact wreck of a rare and historically significant US Navy Douglas TBD-1 Devastator aircraft resting at the bottom of Jaluit Lagoon in the Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI).
Of the 129 Devastators built, all were either lost in battle, destroyed in operational accidents, or scrapped before the end of World War II. This particular expedition was developed to capture precise, repeatable, millimetric data to build an accurate 3D model as a 21st century site map for this significant cultural heritage asset; and to serve as a “pre-disturbance survey” for the proposed recovery, conservation and public exhibition of the historic plane at the National Museum of the United States Navy in Washington, DC.
The plane, US Navy Bureau of Aeronautics Number (BuNo) 1515, formerly assigned to Torpedo Squadron Five (VT-5) aboard the aircraft carrier USS Yorktown (CV-5) with the fuselage code "5-T-6", is in a sensitive marine habitat. To conduct a safe, touchless, accurate survey, that would render a world-class 3D model, the expedition brought together a group of leading experts and volunteers utilizing the most advanced technology available.
Over six days, dozens of dives were conducted to the wreck site located under 130 ft of water. 3D at Depth’s SL3 laser was deployed at varying ranges from the wreck site while maintaining a safe distance, so as not to disturb the surrounding area. The steerable laser beam allowed for flexibility and accuracy while working alongside other technology applications. The SL3 pulsed at 40,000 measurements/sec for each scan position acquiring very high-density sector scans. 3D at Depth’s patented index of refraction correction algorithm was able to deliver repeatable data sets in low clarity water quality where other optical solutions would struggle to operate.
In total, the SL3 LiDAR laser delivered a total of 92 million points and the photogrammetric data after processing produced 5.7 million vertices. Each dense point cloud was then surfaced modeled and moved into a 3D design computer. Optical imagery from photogrammetry, 360 VR and stills were integrated into the designs to render an exact 3D model of the Devastator.
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Only 130 were manufactured and none are in museums or private collection. Only 11 relatively complete air-frame's are known to exist, all are under water. At least one deserves to be raised and preserved.
It could be raised and put in a museum provided that the crew survived and were not lost in the crash (combat). Otherwise it should be left alone.
@@williamsturgell3294 Yes, it would then be a war grave.
The US Navy won't allow it.
USS Midway Museum has a complete fuselage and out to the wing fold points restored and on display. If anything, they should use the old manuals and prints to manufacture new wing tips for it from scratch. I can't see pulling one out of Saltwater 75+ years later, it would be so eaten up and fragile it could fall apart under the strain of just lifting it out of the water. Maybe if one was sunk in a freshwater lake or landing in the artic ice. But I don't think that's an option.
@@ScoutSniper3124 Do the original plans exist? It is possible. I've read years ago how a guy had the plans to build a Boeing F4-B biplane. He did it exactly as Boeing did it and reps from Boeing examined it and gave it a serial number, so that makes it an original aircraft and not a replica. I don't see why it could not be done with a TBD.
Bring up all 7 Devastators from Lexington wreck now!
That's impossible
Sure. Let's do that. Ummm, oh, yeh! Funding for this little undertaking comes from....?
And it’s a war grave
Great idea
They got a Soviet sub wreck up from 3 miles down in the Pacific. But that was a different kettle of fish.
This pilot did it all right, had the canopies open, wheels up to prevent flipping, and kept the nose up to again stop the props from flipping the plane, a great pilot.
Then he got eaten by sharks.
there are several that are aboard the wreck of the USS Lexington that could be brought up and are in much better condition than this one is. There is also an F4F-3 Wildcat fighter with four victory marks that has ben photographed in the wreck. All these could be brought to the surface and restored.
I've always considered it a scandal that the Navy would not allow this to be salvaged and restored. WHY? Has this now changed? -- "for the proposed recovery, conservation and public exhibition of the historic plane at the National Museum of the United States Navy in Washington, DC?" It is such a unique historical artifact. It should be saved., restored, and displayed at the Navy aviation museum in Pensacola. or DC, but save the aircraft!
Two landed near one another after they ran out of fuel.One crew escaped.The other didnt.The carrier sent two destroyers to look for them and no luck.The Carrier was The Yorktown CV5,my dads ship.
As soon as air hits that thin metal it would corrode very fast not much there now as it is. But I agree what a workhorse.
It's kind of moot point bringing this wreck up...it is so far gone, it would fall to pieces. Beter to try for the TBD's that are aboard the Lexington CV-2. They are in much better shape.
@@nursesteve2004 You may be right, but from what I've read much of the fault for this lies with the Navy itself, which years ago denied a contractor the right to recover the aircraft when it WAS salvageable. Strange, they will proceed with the restoration of a Brewster Buccaneer (OK by me) but stymie the recovery and restoration of a far more famous aircraft. In any event, I agree that the TBD's on the sunken Lex are a far better recovery subject -- if you can somehow pluck one of them from the depths of the Coral Sea. I don't know if that's possible.
@@Redhand1949 I am sure Paul Allen could find a way. Interesting that the Navy denied a contractor the right to bring up the Jaluit TBD, when several aircraft that belonged to the Navy were brought up from Lake Michigan and restored, including 2 F4F-3's that were restored to flying condition and are the ONLY flying F4F's, all the others being FM-2's) an SBD-2 that was identified as being a combat veteran of Midway (flown by the Marines from the island) and the only existing SB2U Vindicator. It's too bad there are no TBDs or F2A Buffalos in Lake Michigan. You know Paul Allen with his resources could being up those TBD's or he could commission someone to build a complete replica of one.
They NEED to bring this up and restore it
Such a beautiful plane. They should save at least one of them.
Fam,let the fish vibe in their new home
Canadian airforce museum in Trenton Ontario brought up a crashed Halifax bomber from the bottom of a lake. You should see what it looks like now. Absolutely jaw dropping. It looks like it could take to the skies. Salvaging a submerged aircraft is not impossible
if it's submerged in fresh water- I've seen photos of aircraft sunk in lakes in Northern Canada with part of the wing above the water- the parts underwater were in better condition. It's also about the oxygen content of the water, I think.
I wish someone would restore this airplane. None in museums.
theres no way.
@@georgetraylor314 It would be a complete scratch build.. maybe some parts could be salvaged. Unfortunately, the only airframes known to exists are in salt water.
The incredible Devastator.
That's really coool stuff!!! J
That's the best !!!!
Laser and computer science is amazing right now 👍👍
The USS Yorktown on 1 February 1942 launched the first US airstrike against Jaluit Atoll of the war . The strike was composed of 17 SBDs and 11 TBDs, the latter armed with bombs, not torpedoes. The weather was atrocious and scattered the strike force, which luckily encountered no enemy fighter opposition. Nonetheless, losses were high: two SBDs and four TBDs did not return to the Yorktown. Weather is blamed for the loss of the SBDs. Two of the TBDs ditched near Jaluit, including the one featured on this video. Japanese antiaircraft fire probably accounted for this TBD and probably the second one that ditched near the atoll, Weather almost certainly contributed to the overall aircraft losses. The Pacific is huge. The most minor of navigation errors, compounded by distance, speed, and weather, often proved fatal. In return for these losses, the strike inflicted damage on some Japanese ships in the atoll, but details are sketchy. Given the Imperial Japanese Navy's practice of interrogating and then executing most captured US and Allied aircrew, it's highly probable that the Japanese garrison killed anyone who survived the ditching of this TBD
From what i understand, the aluminum used in the TBDs construction corrodes in thin layers as the sea salt gets into it, making it very crumbly...im sure the moment it dried, itd fall apart. Probably better off just building a replica from the ground up.
The music is 5 times too loud.
Let's pull that big boy up and get it runnin again! I got a garage and a big field behind my house. My folks will never see it...
But they will definitely hear a 1500hp 9cyl. Radial . In the sky.
Digital is all well and good but real is better. Raise it.
Super !!
Very cool thank you for sharing this.
After seeing this, a Recreation of the TBD-1 Devastator would be the most appropriate route to bringing this back from the sea bed
Great work guys on an excellent subject. We do similar work in the Solomons....
Be cool if you do my dads helldiver, it was ditched on the sea side of jaliit opposite of enybo island. About 1/4 mile out from the island.
Why are they NOT at least bringing up this aircraft for preservation?
70 plus years, I hope none are war graves.
So how much do I have to pay you to make a 3d map of the Musashi?
Woo! Fish rave!!
It's time to bring a Devastator home to the National Museum of Naval Aviation. We've been talking about it for well over 20-years.
Restore that awesome aircraft
Now make a plastic 3D model of it.😁😁😁
Reminds me of the Lake Mead B-29
Jaliut island where Amelia Earhart, Fred Noonan, and the beached Electra were taken after their capture by the Japanese from Mili Atoll july 7, 1937
I'd be interested to know who flew this aircraft, and their fate.
ENS. Herbert R. Hein, Jr., A-V(N), Joseph D. Strahl AOM3c, and Marshal E. Windham, SEA1c. POW.
@@tbd-1 Thank you.
Saw this plane in stock footage years ago in the seventies. The photo was taken from the top of a seagoing sailboats mast. It was in much better shape of coarse. The Navies reluctance to allow private parties from salvaging and restoring these aircraft and their rabid acts of forcefully appropriating them if an individual did has probably led to the loss of many a priceless piece of historical aircraft. I say let them rot. If the Navy is so nearsighted as to lose the opportunity they can reap what they sow. He’ll they’re ninety per cent officers hell bent on kissing all the right asses anyway.
Do you know if they were able to identify the aircraft and the aircrew who flew her? She looks great considering what happened to many of the Devastator TBD's at Midway. Ensign George Gay ditched his aircraft during the battle, could this be his plane?
This isn't at Midway. The wrecks of the TBDs lost there have not been found. BuNo 1515 was flown by ENS. Herbert R. Hein, Jr., A-V(N), Joseph D. Strahl AOM3c, and Marshal E. Windham, SEA1c when it was lost.
It would be really neat if this plane could be recovered and restored.
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( VINDICATTOR not " arbitrator " )
This is the plane of Arizona?
No. The last aircraft that operated off USS Arizona was the OS2U Kingfisher.
A6M Zero: *Ops My Bad*
Here’s my take Get Government out of the way no matter what. If the world is so concerned with cleaning up the oceans and being “Green” let’s take that opportunity to clean up under the sea recover the wrecks of Aircraft of all varieties tanks and ships and properly restore them to the best of our ability, these days it will give young people a proper understanding of history of where we came from.
They have a proposal to recover this aircraft. Read the description!
" This particular expedition was developed to capture precise, repeatable, millimetric data to build an accurate 3D model as a 21st century site map for this significant cultural heritage asset; and to serve as a “pre-disturbance survey” for the proposed recovery, conservation and public exhibition of the historic plane at the National Museum of the United States Navy in Washington, DC. "
Whinging over?
Unfuckin believable
Speaking of 3D at Depth? I know just the name but, then not saying how deep is the wreck?...Stupid.
This is neat but the airplane needs to be RECOVERD AND SAVED not left to rot!!!
After WW2 the US Air Farce melted down thousands of these airplanes to make beer cans,
Not an airforce plane.
only 130 made, down to only 39 after Midway when withdrawn ... any remaining intact were scrapped during the war... to make more warbirds.
by the end of the war, tere were no flying TBD's anymore....the ones left from Midway and anywhere else were used as trainers and instructional airframes. The last known flyable TBD was grounded and scrapped in 1944. BTW the TBD was a Navy plane not USAAF
its a war grave, leave it alone
The pilot could have very well ejected.
no s%$t....but you cant take that chance
@@toonsis The aircraft ditched, and the crew were rescued. The aircraft is not a war grave.
What better way to honor them then to bring their aircraft home and restore it?
@@toonsis seems to be a war grave, a skull behind the inner part of the left wing at 0:59
It is not arbitrator ... it is an S B D. DAUNTLESS ! Notwithstanding this , it is a marvellous video ... wish you could LIDAR the. I J N KAGA , AND IJ N. C As X O S V CAPT. P. van ESS