Delta A321 has UNRULY PASSENGER ONBOARD | Diverts to Washington
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Delta Airbus A321 performing flight from Boston to Atlanta was enroute at FL380 when the pilots reported an unruly passenger causing disturbance in the back. The crew diverted to Washington.
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Now you pay that extra fuel!!!😡😡
Coincidence we published similar incident exactly a year ago: czcams.com/video/BSSWAC1u9cQ/video.html
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yup. A-1 Jet Fuel or Aviation fuel is so expensive..
Let's make that Karen pay for A1 Jet fuel, but also for normal, unleaded Premium Gas for the Jet Engines!
We don't know what actually happened, do we? She might have a medical issue that made her "combative", we should not jump to conclusions.
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Way back in the day a first class passenger went crazy on a DC10 when refused further alcohol. He proceeded to rampage about the first class cabin including, shall I say "pooping" on top of the serving cart. Flight was diverted to Omaha and cancelled. A plea deal was reached with a local judge who did his homework. To avoid felony charges he agreed to pay ALL charges incurred by the airline. That included fuel, landing fees, hotel rooms for passengers and crew, loss of revenue etc. The icing on the cake was that he had to handwrite a letter of apology to everyone involved. That included every crew member, passenger, ATC controller, law enforcement, EMT etc. that responded. Sometimes the punishment does fit the crime.
@@jamescollier3 I remember the story about the guy taking a dump on the service cart, that definitely happened. Any other details about the punishment or whatnot I can't confirm or deny.
I daresay I hope he permanently lost his flying privileges anywhere in the world. And expanded to include no form of public transportation including buses, taxicabs, trains, etc. That is beyond gross!
@@jamescollier3 This happened before the internet existed so just newspaper and nightly news coverage. I'm sure archives exist but would take a lot of searching. The incident did go nationwide which is where I read it. Just two stories as I recall, the incident and the court judgement.
His name is Gerard B. Finneran. Happened in 1995. Another interesting fact was he wiped using the linen napkins.
It was a flight from Argentina to NY and they didn't divert. Due to some foreign dignitaries on board, they felt it was best to continue to the destination. He ended up paying the passengers ticket costs and the expense of cleaning his mess off the aircraft. Did some community service and paid a fine. He had an excellent attorney.
Always insightful to hear the level of the disturbance @ 2:38
Level 1: Disruptive behavior - suspicious or threatening
Level 2: Physically abusive behavior
Level 3: Life-threatening behavior
Level 4: Attempted or actual breach of the flight deck
If this doesn't give viewers a greater appreciation for pilots and ATC personnel, nothing will. These people are awesome.
Awesome at over-reacting was my impression.
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@@disorganizedorg You never take chances in the skies with hundreds of peoples lives involved.
Pilot: Age: 29, gender female, name Karen
ATC: Understood
Karen: I’d like to speak to the pilot
The pilot sounds like a Karen...
@ETOPS Agree . The pilots were by the book and professional
😂
Where did all the douchebags come from lately? Poor VASAviation needs a staff of bouncers now.
"We are declaring an emergency, we have a Karen on board, i repeat a Karen on Board!"
ha ha le reddit me me
'karen' L o L r/dumbkarens
r/karens
haha 'karen' i know what that means le reddit
And she wants to speak to the manager! Or someone who will give her the satisfaction she deserves!
Poor Karen....
"Who let her in! Who let her in!"
Christ
How to end up on the no fly list.
Interesting video for me. I’m a dispatcher for “air shuttle” (Mesa airlines) so it was a nice surprise to see them - though shouldn’t be a surprise because IAD is one of our UAX bases. :) I did find it odd that the DAL flight requested runway 30 because that’s normally only for departures (you’d noticed all the other flights going to the 1s). But the winds report explained why they opted for that since they’d still be pretty heavily leadened with fuel coming from Boston. That’d give them an excellent headwind.
All other flights were going for 30 too. Then they changed the configuration of the airport to 1s.
VASAviation - ah. I saw that, but I wasn’t sure as I was interpreting the radar correctly as I use a different software at work and currently primarily dispatch my regionals other fleet that doesn’t go to IAD. But It’s pretty rare from my experience so far that they use 30 for arrivals unless the wind is too much for the 1/19s - which it must’ve been with the gusts.
That’s a significant crosswind on the landing runway! 40 degree crosswind at 25 gusting to 37.
At max gust of 37 that's a 24 knot crosswind component. Most airliners can handle 29 knots, some even higher than that.
It’s a significant head wind too and rwy 30 at IAD is pretty much only used for departures (even with a tailwind - due to nearby DCA and all the no fly zones in dc). My airlines aircraft heading in there at the time of this incident can handle a xwind component of 30 (crj7) and 28 (e175) as long as the rwy is dry. So the component was well within the range of my small regional jets. :)
Yah 30 is only used for landings when winds are from Northwest and at least 20-25 kts, anything less and they'll throw you on 1R or 1C... interesting side note the airport wants to build another runway parallel to the current rnwy 30, making 30 R and 30L
Dylan T another 30 may be helpful especially with their banking of arrivals/departures.
A321 can handle a demonstrated crosswind of 38 kts., as indicated on its Limitations.
I want to see a reconstruction of the combative person being taken off the plane.
carschmn LOL
aaaaannnnnddddd..... demonetized!!!!!
She was unconscious and combative when she woke up who knows what was actually going on.
@@BlueButtonFly That can be a consequence of certain medications, of a diabetic crisis, or of a seizure.
Lol Russian clips with drunken passengers are the best.
2:54 “Advise what gate you are landing at.” That would be quite a feat. That would save a lot of ground traffic congestion if they could land at the gate. 😀
I'd like to see an actual video of that! Otherwise, we'll have to settle for someone doing that in Flight Simulator Steam Edition.
OOPS..Mis-spoke
I was hoping when ATC asked what type of emergency he was declaring the pilot would have replied with we have a Karen on board lol
Sometimes people get into their personal chemistry kits and mix prescription drugs with alcohol and it gets really ugly. However, epileptic seizures. usually are followed by a period of sleep or confusion. I have dealt with both of these situations while airborn. The drug/ alcohol combo usually results in dreadful behavior, while seizure patients rarely are anything.other than confused. Alot of times, people don't remember how much "anxiety " medicine they have taken, so they take way too much and have too much too drink on top of that. Bad for everyone in splatter distance.
Level 3 disturbance is life threatening behavior
Good things it's not squawk 7500 call from the cockpit
@Voltaic Fire Don't you mean the air force would.....
Very nice graphics on the newer videos. Good job.
Glad you like them!
@@VASAviation Keep up the good work.
Damn it Karen!!
ha ha le reddit me me
'karen' L o L r/dumbkarens
r/karens
haha 'karen' i know what that means le reddit
I think it was a Keisha.
@@Polo-Hat Ah, casual racism.
When I meet a Karen for now on I will tell them they are a Level 3 Disturbance.
Disruptive passengers are a nightmare for all in the aircraft
So cool, calm, and confident. It's just another day at the office even as they hold the lives of hundreds of people in their hands.
This was a great posting and really interesting. The CGI work is cool too. The jet sounds are distracting and unnecessary. Otherwise, great work.
Wow now it's done with a simulation
Is there no footage from cabin? Come on guys it is 2020 everybody should have a smartphone with camera who wants to become famous
To be fair, this was during the absolute low of air travel... There was likely less than 20 pax on this. Didn't catch number of souls onboard for the emergency
That's beyond the scope of this channel anyway. VAS covers ATC radio transmissions and radar almost exclusively.
At 7:38 PM pacific time Sunday June 14th a business jet buzzed the South Oceanside, California neighborhood at less than 500ft. It looked and sounded like a movie scene. Hard bank, crazy looking flight. Curious if you can find that audio and I.D. the jet. Hard to see how he could possibly have missed the Carlsbad/PALOMAR Delta.
A superb video.
Many thanks!
EasyJet have been on the phone. They want their customer back.
*static* yeah we got a level 3 Karen in the back, we're gonna need a direct radio connection to several managers. Some of which don't even work for us yet. *keys off radio*
the real issue here is the chemtrails...:)
I kid I kid
Great work. Does anyone know what happened to that young lady? It seems like she had a true medical emergency.
Sobered up in the drunk tank, most likely.
@Guss Ruffee you mean our woman will be harshly fined for this incident?
Just Think of all' the trouble she caused for passengers and crew. Why was she allowed to even board the plane? This is not her first rodeo. Great job Delta, ATC too.
@@sarahalbers5555 ya, DC Federal Court for desturbance of crew.
Sarah Albers I agree. I’m just wondering what was wrong with her
I’m wondering if my ex fiancé was on that flight and was served too much vodka. 😂😂
Anybody notice that at 4:25 ATC requested a turn on to 160 and the pilot read back 180?!! And there was NO correction?!
I heard that too. The controller came back with the "new" (correct) heading again and the pilot verified it. I thought that was a cool way for the controller to handle it. No confrontation.
"She is now restrained" - Do flights carry handcuffs on board or how would you do that?
I remember hearing somewhere there are Air Marshall's on every US flight. Don't know how true that is, but it would make sense in this case there was one.
Airlines usually carry either tie wraps or hand cuffs onboard, it’s often the latter for airlines from the US
My brother in-law flies for Delta. They have restraints and a firearm. Few other things he’s not allowed to talk about as well. Not sure what.
@@fixedguitar47 is talking about chutes
Flex cuffs can be made available and they are very strong, hard to cut off. We may never know exactly what they use for security reasons set by FAA / airline policy but I'm sure something is available
What happened to the flight Marshall’s? Were they not able to help. Nice calm transmissions amongst the pilots and atc. Bravo.
most times, the Marshalls don't board til final arrival at the gate
Karen is in full wrinkly head mode, I repeat full wrinkly head mode. We are going to need the US Marshals and a few ninjas to meet us at the gate.
Can you do a video on the EVA air A330 circling over Ho Chi Minh City today for 4 hours?
Can you show it on flightradar24 and the flight#?
@@ianendangan7462 BR395 from Taipei to Ho Chi Minh City. It's still on the ground there...
VVTS landing acft rwy 25L excursion in bad weather
A plane slip off the runway while landing
@@thuhuynh2075 Yeah, I heard.
There was a CZcams poster years ago, a guy with a Bronx accent who posted from his home while wearing a T-Shirt. Tried to look him up with no luck. One of his ideas was to issue all passengers boarding a flight Louisville Slugger Baseball Bats. No more problems with hijackers or disruptive pax 😝
Kid from Brooklyn. Com
Request divert to GITMO..
Guantanamo is outside safe divert zone for Atlanta bound craft
I'm gonna say it was Alcohol related.
I'm gonna say it is moron related.
99% of the time it is alcohol related. They could stop most these incidents by not selling alcohol in airports and on aircraft but they don't want to give up the $$$$. Rarely someone will cause a problem because they have a Psych condition and didn't take their meds that day. Think of the Southwest pax who was killed by other pax when he tried to breach the cockpit.
@@darrylr.4983 A friend of mine has a rare condition called High-altitude cerebral edema. Basically at altitude, he starts having stroke symptoms and begins to panic. The 1 and only flight he was on landed with police and paramedics waiting for him.
When he was diagnosed properly, he learned that flying is life threatening, and he can never fly again. Sucks. Anyways, I only put this out there to show that it isn't always just someone being a "moron", or a drunk arsehole. Although truthfully it likely is, but the possibility remains that it may not be.
One lady? Cmon. Big deal. Drunken agression on Russian local airlines is commonplace.
@@Bobbywolf64 c'mon man! we've been flying at 20k to 35k feet for over 60 years and this "combatant passenger" thing is a recent phenomenon. I however, can't help but notice the connection between unruly passengers and Atlanta. They have a high number of cases like this. Since Air ravel has become a bus in the air, the number of cases has also risen. The difference is a bus can just pull over and throw the "moron" passenger off with minimal risk to safety of others.
So, if an aircraft has to divert for any reason, how are airport/landing rights fees dealt with? Especially on such short notice?
Whatever happened to the good old days when they just passed out?
I fail to understand that why any passenger suspected of being drunk , is not breathalysed at the gate and automatically, mandatorily disallowed to board . Unruly passengers are usually drunk beforehand , as well as being of low calibre, aggressive types? Furthermore these aggressive , low calibre types who get drunk and become disorderly on board , really should receive a minimum of a 10year ban , if not a lifetime ban , from flying on ANY airline. There is NO excuse. Imo.
Love that both controllers ask pilots to confirm the gate! Apparently impossible to pass the information on internally, or to ask the airline. At least they weren’t asked repeatedly for souls on board and fuel remaining this time; though presumably this wasn’t the first time they were asked nature of emergency.
"Impossible" may not be the case, but it is very difficult for the ATC to communicate with an airline's operations, especially while there is other traffic for them to deal with. Gates are leased and managed by the individual airlines, not the port authority (at least at most airports). It's much easier and less load managment for the pilots to communicate with their ops, especially when ops gets very involved with a lot of aspects of a plane when they have to divert (getting it fueled, potential crew timeouts, towing it out of the gate, dealing with potential hotel vouchers if it was a mechanically-caused overnight delay, etc.). In terms of the two controllers asking for the gate, it's hard for me to gauge that.
It also doesn't help when 2 or 3 different supervisors walk up and ask to confirm the same information that has already been passed.
that's why they are asked to switch to different frequency numbers to monitor Tower & Ground-including Ops (when appropriate)
including Approach
FAA can fine a unruly,disruptive,drunk,passengers up to $ 37,000.00.My view is tickets should have this information so all passengers will know how serious this is.384 reports of problem passengers in 2021.My nephews son is a Captain for DELTA and he was leaving Detroit Metro for Atlanta with 148 passengers.He was already on the runway waiting for clearance from the tower,and one of the fllight attendants called him and said,"We have a drunken female who just vomited on the gentleman sitting ahead of her and it went in his hair,down his neck & back.There are 3 passengers sitting across from her who are gagging from the smell.So after returning to the gate,and overhead luggage removed along with checked baggage and 148 passengers to a clean plane the flight was delayed 60 minutes.I am sure there were many who may have missed their connecting flights.
2:45 I don't know if someone mentioned it earlier but is it not "Then YACKK will be actually in the downwind to 30"?
LOL who will pay the extra fuel and other divert costs ?
The people who pay checked bag fees
On my delta flight the other day there was a passenger who was rude about flight attendant requiring him to wear a mask
People should be warned of that insanity at the time of ticket purchase . I would be irate if not warned but I would not be abusive to on flight personnel
Take the mask and be happy that the flight is operating and the airline still exists - or leave the flight. You should know what´s ongoing worldwide since a couple of month.
@@NicolaW72 The airline should be very clear . I would not board the flight . This last minute policy dumps the issue wrongly on over worked flight crews
@@johndouglas5712 It's not insanity, it's for everyone's health and safety.
Wait she was restrained AND passed out?
The snoring was EXTREME
and when she burped, the crew ruled it as a chemical attack!
Sounds like before the Dark Knight
passenger disturbance connected to ATL?? you don't say...
Let me guess: Karen?
I’m curious about which law enforcement would meet them at the gate - the Washington Metro area airport cops, or federal? The D.C. area has such a bewildering array of police forces...
Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority Police Department
Where did you get this radar. What is it called?
I did it
oh. Cool
how?
Did I hear correctly but was there a callsign from Shutle America?!
Air Shuttle was the call sign you heard.
Who pays when planes have to divert? Or do the airlines just absorb the cost?
Probably the unruly passanger if she's the role reason for all of this.
they'll sue the passenger for the costs, but if they actually have any money or not is a different issue.
It depends on the underlying reason. If there was a medical problem, the airline usually eats the cost of diverting. If the problem was voluntary, then suing the passenger is a distinct possibility.
I said I wanted Coke, not Diet Coke
Como es ser un certify de ivao españa
Fantástico!
My guess diabetic with low blood sugar. Unconscious then combative.
Definitely possible Tyler. There are a number of medical conditions that can cause patients to become combative during the recovery phase. We don't want to assume it's deliberate without knowing all the facts. We may never know in this case due to medical confidentiality.
Is there a reason why they picked IAD over DCA?
D J probably because IAD is the main airport serving Washington DC , and is also able to handle larger aircraft. Dulles has 4 runways and 135 gates, while DCA has 3 runways and 46 gates
DCA has a lot of special procedures owing to its proximity to the Capitol / White House, so a lot easier to go into Dulles or even Baltimore.
Sue her for all costs and delays!
Mega oof
Hmmm... She was passed out at first, then awakened where she found "doctors" attending to her and then was combative. Ya know, if I woke up on a flight to find strangers groping me I'd probably get a little combative too!
fentanyl and estrogen are a bad combination
Mike, so is Xanax and wine.
Mike, so is Xanax and wine!
Not being American, I wonder what the references to "Karen" mean.
It's a nickname for women who behave in an entitled manner and demand to "see a manager" anytime they don't get their way.
@@EAMHawkeye Thank you for the information!
@@francescadarimini6476 it's a bunch of losers from le reddit, these morons think they are cool when they say karen because they have in crowd knowledge.
it's toxic internet culture.
nobody says things like this in the real world.
@tie oneon Karens come in all colors
Type of sickness? Girl can't handle her booze
Aiiighhhh Chemtrails @ 0:07!!!
And now they’re taking away booze on board.. make for lotta unhappy passengers. SOBER
I don't care just water or diet soda would be good for me
Look out, Karen's on the loose ... I hope she gets the bill for the fuel they had to waste.
Probably a Karen who was upset that she wasn’t allowed into the cockpit to complains to the captain about the flight attendants
Sounds like she has a seizure
Or under the affluence of incahol? Hic.
RogerI maybe the alcofluence of incohol?
Could also be a diabetic problem
you all making up medical reasons for poor behavior is concerning. when the video comes out you will likely see a self entitled moron with an attitude who got combatant.
The pilot said she was unconscious and woke up irate. That's what happens when someone is suffering from a seizure.
Was all of this animation really necessary for a diversion?
why do we let Karens fly
First!!!
Luckily no police was on the flight or the disturbance in the back might have turned into a knee in the back