Worst Case Scenario for Chainsaw Man Season 2 is Happening if This is True
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2023
- If this turns out to be true and not just a rumor / leak. Then this is the worst case scenario for Chainsaw Man Season 2 in my opinion if Ryu Nakayama is removed as a director
#fired #anime #chainsawman
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Welp…… the only thing we can do now is pray.
So sad. I loved how he adapted chainsaw man. The vibe felt like a perfect match. The cinematic aspect juxtaposed with extreme surrealism fits the manga beautifully as an anime. It would be a perfect style for future arcs. How sad hope it’s not true.
Ok, so, after I watched the show, I read the manga and let me say that it has a different style to it. More of a funky type of style, let loose and kinda goofy art style. The anime even tho it was objectively good looking, did not have the fujimoto drawing style, that's why I think theie pissed off
@@ronel7836 agree, I loved the anime but I felt it missed the colorful vibe. Like if you read the colored manga, that it what I thought the anime was going to look like.
@@ronel7836 but even though, I loved the anime for the movie references and I am sad that. Like bro the first episode was amazing. Idk, it was so fucking good.
@@rarebarney5681I think the anime feels perfect. The anime is extremely dark even if it's super zany at times it wouldn't make sense for it be exaggerated and colorful.
It's just anime-only troglodytes that liked Mappa's adaptation of CSM. It failed to capture Fujimoto's essence.
What if the director himself didn't want to continue directing chainsaw man because of the backlash? I would find that more likely
I could see that
Yeh, i could see that
No it’s obvious he got replaced because Japan hated this man with a passion, rightfully so
@@vladokingsley3775 oh no your fee fees
What back lash lmao?!
I liked the way he directed the anime,felt a lot like a live action movie which is rare for anime,but if Japan really didn’t like the way he did it then it isn’t surprising. If the rest of the staff stays the same and they bring in another great director,which Mappa does have,I don’t see that much of a downgrade happening.
The Mangaka does enjoy movies, Nakayama's really doing what Fujimoto would probably enjoy!
I mean it’s not like Japanese fans don’t watch live action.
Live action movies are trash, Anime is famous because of its own style.
This. I appreciate his original take on Chainsawman but I do prefer different direction, something more flashy for this series.
@@abhishekbu1087 tf u saying
I think the direction was extremely good in execution of the intended emotion. It's better than most film-makers.
I see no problem with the adaption.
The "backlash" crowd is blowing smoke from their asses
@@zapan9643 I'm probably hyper-critical when it comes to most entertainment productions for a "mass audience" and honestly the direction of Chainsaw Man is at least in my eyes extremely high as such if that is true then I'd expect it to have "Legs" even if the original release was not as mega-hit as hoped. Let it build in reputation via word of mouth over time.
It was his first directorial work, man never deserved this backlash
Without nakayama , chainsaw man will lose that subtle magic it always has, the anime adaptation was perfect
Japanese don't like it
@@mathieul4303 they’re wrong
@@mathieul4303 japanese ppl are weird
@@mathieul4303 nah majority do, it’s the minority acting pompous
As much as i liked nakayama's approach, let's not be delusional. There are dozens of other directoes that are very competent and can make an amazing season 2. Nakayama being replaced isn't really the problem, the problem is that if this is true whoever does season 2 will be forced to change the vibe of the anime. Expect chibi faces and way more screaming beacuse that's what it seems japanese fans want
im a casual anime watcher and man this anime was so fresh
when people talk negatively about something it gets so much more attention then the positive stuff
honestly this adaptation is unlike anything ive ever seen
so bold, i love it when directors take risks like that
If this indeed this is true, this sucks for homie cuz the adaptation was really good and it's sad to see anyone lose a position but after what MAPPA CEO stated, it does make sense and hopefully, change improves the concerns folks were having. Additionally and my problem is that Fujimoto Style won't work as a straight anime has it hard to adapt his style and I can see fans regretting the decision later down the road
They will 100% regret it. I can't even understand how someone who is a fan of the manga is able to view season 1 negatively
@@davidd.d8041 They'll probably backtrack and blame it on Mappa
@@davidd.d8041 -Tone is very different from the manga than anime(well atleast the chapters that was adapted)
-Pacing is very different from the manga (which a complaint from both jp and overseas fans)
-Iconic scenes from manga where changed or alternated in a way that fans didn't like( one example is the
zombie devil fight tone way differently and the iconic full spread from that chapter is non existent)
-Parts of the manga chapter was removed(honestly i really didn't think it was that big of a deal with the
devil being removed)
- Due to the more realistic approach it made some of jokes and the gags fall flat( Power and Denji fighting in front of makima is common example fans bring up)
I think that's all i can think of that I've heard or my own opinions on the adaptation is was good but had it flaws
@@bottomfragger-kfpdogwater6804 yeah heard that too. But tbh there's no complaints at first until that director's comments came before episode 4 being aired suddenly all complaints popping up. So I think it's clear that his comments that trigger them at first place and they just hate him and we know their typical in social media will do anything to ripped him off.
@@phantommare8778 If your talking complaints on jp side then I'm not to sure. I've heard that in the interview when he was saying he wanted CSM be less anime that did tick people off.
Lets say you are a young anime director who's eager to turn a manga written by one of your favourite mangakas into an anime. You have been a big fan of this mangaka since his early work. You then used your huge list of connections, including industry veterans, young and talented directors, webgen animators, foreign animators, and your own animation pupils to make your vision of the anime a reality
You then released the first trailer of this anime that is clearly directed with a particular style derived from the mangaka's influences. A particular section of manga "fans" praised this trailer to high heavens
Then the anime, directed with the same style as the trailer, airs. That same section of manga "fans" mocked this anime, harassed you on social media, accused you for being disrespectful to a mangaka you greatly admire. They also accused you for hating anime even though you are a webgen animator for about 10 years that belonged to a generation of the Haruhi Suzumiya boom, while also had directed an MV that has the "anime-like" style. And now these same people want you out of the project to boost their egos
I swear, only boku no hero and chainsaw fans are like this.... they wouldn't be able to survive the Berserk pain...
Well the worst thing that could happen is the animation takes a one punch man season 2 level nosedive.
It's almost impossible to be that bad nosedive, remember OPM had a huge studio change on season 2 and the whole staff overall. CSM should still be animated by MAPPA, which doesn't guarantee anything, they do stinkers also, but they probably won't ruin animation that bad on their own project.
@@luckyowl10 if we went to CSM s1 to hell's paradise level art and animation in s2 it'd be a massive nosedive but even that wouldn't be as bad as OPM tbh
Hell's paradise has decent animation in general. I've seen worse, but yeah it's more basic than what CSM 1 had, at least it's very colourful, that part I like in the Hell's paradise anime
@@kinggamereon653 yes
@@luckyowl10 the colourfulness definitely is nice
But comparing with most of the stuff mappa has made the animation just doesn't look hood even if it isn't the worst I have seen
this is a really bad omen (at least for me), the problem doesnt just get magically solved from changing the director, the Season 1 of CM got the cinematic aproach nothing can change that (except a reboot), so if they change the aproach to the show in season 2 this can be a turnoff for all the anime onlys (which are the majority i bet) me included, i got used to the style of the show and just to "change" it, would be really weird for everyone watching it. It would be like watching a different show.
Same, until the end of the CSM anime I got used to the art style and more cinematic look, even if it's not my favourite. If they start doing a more basic anime look with chibi shots, nosebleeds and overly exaggerated faces, I bet a lot of people will just drop the show.
It was a bad decision from the start. The art direction and style were bad, especially the first 5 episodes the 3d cgi didn't help its case in the slightest. I think people who were fans of the Manga were not there for the "cinema experience" but for the art and the story. Changing characters and their art to fit your vision instead of the creators one does tend to do ereversable damage. I can't see the show going on without remaking s1. Especially if they decide to ditch the janky cgi
@@masha_kasha5061 I am anime only, so have no idea how the manga truly feels. Checking some panels on Google, it looks miles better than the anime, but manga tends to look better than the anime. Unless the anime has a very passionate production team.
I feel like the cinema look could have worked, but the production was far too rushed to give it justice.
If they pushed the CSM anime by 1 year, make it 100/100 best animation MAPPA can do, no ugly CGI, the cinema look might have looked breathtaking and convince people to give it a shot.
But if they knew they will rush the production so much, they should have just copied the manga style and call it a day, fewer people would have complained.
I have to agree. Even though I wanted a different style, I don't really want them to just change it halfway through. It'd be too jarring. I'm hoping they somehow pull off the transition. It's honestly my only worry with the change in directors.
@@masha_kasha5061 well if they aren’t there for the cinematic experience why are they watching a cinematic medium like television?
Nakayama was a very ambitious man and a very good director that handled CSM which gave it a unique feel but I think Japanese fans (not all) didn't like the cinematic approach of the adaptation which is sad honestly. I hope the rumour isn't true but if it is then there's nothing we can do about it but hope for the best for Season 2
Which makes it even sadder, because Fujimoto loves cinema and I think that he was nothing but amazed and appreciative of what Nakayama was able to do with Season One.
My only hope is that Chainsaw Man continues to soar and thrive, and not end up like the anime adaptations like The Promised Neverland or Seven Deadly Sins.
i honest to god don’t see why the japanese are so pissy with the direction. Chainsaw Man was inspired by cinema, made like cinema. Sure it had balls to the walls moments but there are also quiet moments that convey powerful scenes, ex. Kishibe and Makima’s talk and Denji and power on the train. Like i have no idea what the japanese want to see in chainsaw man or what they have in mind.
@@komerihimura Pretty sure they want a balance of both. The anime kinda just did only cinema. At least that's what I wanted.
@@komerihimura Cinema nowadays is shit now anyways (see BR 2049 being too colorful or Tarantino or Fincher's movies being too fast-paced). Nakayama is carrying the TRUE spirit of cinema, dull palette and slow pacing!
to be honest, i'm one of the fans who would've preferred a more stylistic approach to the animation, but anyone who's watched the anime can see the level of passion and dedication poured into it. i feel bad for the director, i hope he gets to work on something that gets more appreciation in the future. maybe some other works by fujimoto like goodbye eri or look back, i feel like his realistic approach would suit them perfectly
I would just change the color palette to be slightly brighter. I think the directing was phenomenal!
Perdón que escribo 11 meses mas tarde, pero ¿a que te referís con "more stylistic? Estoy leyendo el manga y me parece que la adaptación es perfecta. Quizá los estándares japoneses son diferentes a los occidentales, donde cada director o creador modifica a placer la obra original, lo que normalmente termina en desastre.
@@javiergambito3352 Hola! Quería decir que en la adaptación de CSM el estilo de animación y el diseño de personajes es más realista, así como los colores y el tono general del anime. Un ejemplo de animación o diseños más "estilizados" sería por ejemplo Cyberpunk Edgerunners o One Piece. La verdad no tengo mucho vocabulario técnico para explicarlo bien jaja, pero en esos animes los movimientos de los personajes son más exagerados de lo que serían en la vida real para ponerle énfasis a la acción, y la paleta de colores no necesariamente refleja lo que encontraríamos en la vida real tampoco. Es más "caricaturesco". A mi también me gustó mucho la adaptación de Chainsaw Man! Solo que me hubiera gustado más verlo adaptado en el otro estilo, por preferencia personal :)
@@lorenacanals5845 Entiendo a lo que te referís. A mí lo único que me chocó un poco son las escenas "3d", pero asumí que era común al ser un anime más reciente. Solo he visto pocos animes y la mayoría relativamente viejos. Estas noticias me re bajonearon, porque después del fiasco de GoT había decidido no ver nada que no estuviese terminado, hice una excepción con Chainsaw Man, me enganché y ahora pasa esto... Voy a darle una oportunidad a Cyberpunk Edgerunners, si no me gusta te hago completamente responsable. ¡Muchas gracias por responder (y recomendarme algo indirectamente)!
@@javiergambito3352 Tranqui, CSM lo van a terminar seguro, de hecho este año sale una película :) Y de nada por la recomendación indirecta, espero que te guste!
Ironic that they wanted a more traditional anime adaptation about a manga that became so famous and popular BECAUSE it had such an untraditional story.
Nobody wanted that. We hate the anime because it's traditional and fails to be even 1% as creative as the original.
@@supermonstars ^^this!
I hope that he will still be involved in the project somehow because I can't see them making chainsaw man without him
The chainsaw man manga when it came out stood out from the other Shonen jump titles for being different. Why can't the anime do the same? Nakayama was paying tribute to western cinema and also tried to do what the manga did, which is not following the standards that anime and manga have. What made the anime so special for me was the direction above all, it felt so refreshing and did not follow the formulaic way almost every anime seems to have.
If this is true, i hope the new director does not regress into how anime is "supposed" to be according to fans, it will lose its value
Because Japanese anime fans are self centered and don’t really care about the artist’s visions.
It always like that thou,nothing new😂you always have to follow the common shounen troupes for the anime to be successful in japan look at jjk,it may be an annoying fact but it true
The anime should stand out. The problem was that it didn't. It was generic trash that took all the soul and uniqueness out of the original because the director hates creativity. Fuck that guy, I hope he really is gone.
@@nkosinathisibiya600 yeah well fuck Japan and their linear intertainment. They may have settled for garbage storytelling. But that doesn't mean they have to ruin good shit either
@@nkosinathisibiya600 Otaku are killing creativity for their close-minded values. Miyazaki was right all along.
I understand why it would be important to preoritize the japanes fans over western fans, because imagine if all anime were made so that the western fans like it the most, it would kind of lose it's "japanese charm" if you know what i mean. Also I don't think japanese fans are ungrateful, but rather passionate fans that loved the manga but didn't like the directors approach because it didn't resemble what they pictured a csm anime would look like.
I personally loved the anime, and i don't think it is bad at all. I also don't think japanese fans think it's bad, they probably just think the animation didn't fit with the manga.
Curious what you guys think!
I think what you are saying is correct
They don't really care about the international audience, clover works CEO said in the gigguk interview
Personally I think the ultra realistic art style and cinematic direction doesn't fit with the goofy over the top characters and insane over the top action and premise of the show.
Ehh fair on the realistic part but cinematic direction can absolutely work with over the top premises, just look stuff like Promare.
@@kondoriano4813 that's true. But I don't like the fact that they skipped scenes from the manga and changed some scenes. For example: the city looks way more populated in the manga.
@Shrek Smith Though I sympathize with the notion of story changes and omissions, I do not believe the sort of example you gave is that big of a deal but I'm willing to agree to disagree on that part.
The writer of Chainsaw Man specifically didn’t want it to copy the manga entirely. They made it fit and anime medium so well. This would be a huge mistake.
He even said they could throw away the manga entirely.
I introduced chainsaw man to my cousin and he really liked it. He's not really into anime but we enjoyed watching the crap out of it. I hope that these rumors aren't true cause they delivered it well.
Lets be happy that we are good people that didn t wish for that man loosing his job. We are the good ones guys and girls
In my opinion it was the director that made chainsaw man what it is, from its action, music, pace, presentation or even random scenes like Aki’s morning routine made it standout ….hopefully the atmosphere of the series doesn’t change if the rumor is true
I enjoyed chainsaw mans fights more than demon slayer. It was something new and was beautifully. That, along with the music and everything is what i prefer over ufotable
I don't even think Demon Slayer is ufotable's best work, it's just their most hyped. Their productions from the Fate and Garden of Sinners universes are by far their best. F/ SN Heaven's Feel trilogy was better than anything Demon Slayer had to offer. 🤔
@@luckyowl10 PREACH
Chibi arent u gonna make a video of giving review for the new parallel world 2 anime movies?
As an anime-only, I think a new director would result it not gonna carry the same cinematic vibe I loved about the 1st season. Watching it in 4K on netflix was such eyecandy and a game changer in anime quality
Trust me read the manga fujimoto has an amazing cinematic eye and they chose not to use a lot of his really good cinematic panels.
@@funaccount7665 AKA "manga better cuz anime not exact copy and paste"
@@kondoriano4813 imagine your favorite manga series no imagine it's anime adaptation has a completely different tone to that of the manga you wouldn't be to happy would you?
@@kondoriano4813 the thing with adaptation, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” is a good motto.
@@kondoriano4813 AKA failed experimentation that resulted in a sales failure
Please god no
The main complaint I heard about CSM is that it wasn't wild enough. Like people expected it to be over the top nonsense and I think that MAPPA will try to deliver more in that aspect of it (which may be appropriate given what the manga had going on) hopefully Japanese fans and can be satisfied with that but I also hope that the author of CSM can be satisfied with that. It would suck if fans liked it but the author didn't
I agree, the main objective criticisn is the adaptation being too tame and having moments of very noticeable CGI. The CGI probably won't be fixed, because MAPPA likes to rush anime productions in order to release as many anime as they can
because it wasn't a 24 ep season as simple as that, jjk would have been doomed if it would have been a 12 ep series lol, had csm been a 24 ep show it would have sold better also it was just unfortunate of csm that it got released with bocchi the rock, that show grabbed attention of all of the people from the start not letting more people actually watching csm.
@@ishawrizz nah ppl watched csm especially in the west just like every other anime,japanese fans simply didnt like the adaptation
@@nkosinathisibiya600 but Bocchi was still more popular and overshadowed CSM
@@thomasffrench3639 i know
When you said only a troll can't say CSM was good, even if a person didn't like the show, I'm assuming that you mean 'good' as in looking good. If I'm correct in that assumption, I can't disagree more.
1 - You mentioned how people were complaining about the CG in the first episode, then said how it wasn't CG, but just another style of animation. I appreciate the fact checking, but if a portion of your audience mistakes a style of animation for bad CG, there's a bigger problem at play than misidentification of animation style.
2 - I can appreciate Nakayama trying something new, but not at the expense of this show looking like it does. You mention how you wished Tokyo Ghoul got the same sort of adaptation (which I can't speak too much on as I haven't read the manga, but have heard that the anime didn't live up to it), but I can at least say that I wish CSM looked the same as the Tokyo Ghoul anime.
3 - I can appreciate Nakayama harkening to the mangaka's love for Western cinema, but, as I've stated in another one of your video's comment sections, if I wanted to watch live action in the vein of a Western movie, I'd go watch Die Hard or The Wire. I'm coming to CSM with the expectation of watching an anime. And instead I found a show with off-putting animation that has a director who's openly dismissive of a medium I love.
If Nakayama truly has been dismissed, then this could be a great opportunity for the direction of the animation to turn around. Especially since the 1st season of CSM stopped just before the story really kicks into gear, the best parts of the anime could still be salvaged before the rest of the show is stuck in the weird mixture of new/CG animation to which the 1st season has been condemned.
Cool vid bro.😺
I hope the anime going forward will still get the love and respect it deserves. The anime had a very unique feel to it that I feel made it stand out. If it ends up getting a very lackluster adaptation after this, I'll be very disappointed
I just don't like the fact that the season 1 haters who think they are ''objectively'' right for thinking Season 1 of Chainsaw man was a bad adaptation because of bad sales from JP will think that this is them being right. I wish he can stay but sadly I can easily see him being gone as the Japanese people already gave their judgement to his style of adaptation so removing him and making some changes to how they handle it is likely so they can potentially and hopefully increase Blue ray sales
The thing is, the reason why people are more on Japan’s side is that they actually seem to care about manga as a medium unlike anime fans.
Have a great sunday bro
Another series meets One Punch Man's fate.....should hv seen that coming considering how big of a milestone both S1 were
We really can't get something good for Long huh😢
Honestly, as soon as I saw the sales figures I figured it was trouble in paradise no matter how well it did on streaming 😢
Don’t understand why they’d drop the director that seemed in tune with what works and what Fujimoto likes with cinema and its feel and presentation.
If I would be the director, I would work for years on a project, put 101% effort in it, see it finish well. And after all that my home country community hates it because I wanted to make something special, I would quit too. Like fuck the stupid fans with their brain-dead takes, it's not worth it.
Fujimoto said chainsaw man took inspiration from movies not that he wanted chainsaw man to be like a movie mappa took a dorohedoro-esque series and tried to turn it into attack on Titan tone wise.
@@funaccount7665 What a dumb comment, seriously. Saying "attack on titan tone" as if the anime has no comedy whatsoever and that it takes itself seriously all the time, when that's not even remotely true. You people really exaggerate all this BS about the anime "being nothing like the manga".
And Fujimoto deliberately stated in Jump Festa 2021 that he wanted the anime to be different than the manga, in the sense of not trying to copy what exists there.
Nakayama couldn't be further from being in tune with Fujimoto if he tried.
Maybe cause he sucked all of the life out of Chainsaw Man for the sake of realism
Honestly I'm okay with that.I think the adaptation is fine. but their biggest reason on why it failed and why japanese otakus hate it because it's "cinematic" and "trying to be different" is really dumb, csm is not special. All I can say is "have you heard of the monogatari series"? IIRC it's the best selling bds of all time before Demon Slayer. LIke I'm not sure what percentage of Japanese otakus have watched arthouse french new wave films but I imagined there isn't a lot. Ryuu Nakayama already had the blueprint called Bakemonogatari but he fumbled it anyway. He doesn't understand what cinema is, he thinks realism and muted color pallete = cinema. Fujimoto already borrowed plot points, allegories and references stuff from monogatari and nisio anyway.
Also people focused on fujimoto being a westaboo cinephile when stuff he references or borrowed are mainstream pictures, he doesn't look like a hardcore cinephile. He's more Japanese inspired in my eye. All of this movies stuff are fluff. If you understand his works you can see he's more inspired by people like Takashi Miike, Kentaro Miura, Nisio Isin, Tetsumo Nihei and plethora of other Japanese artists.
This is the guy that wrote a whole manga where he beat up the guy that did the kyoani arson attack. I hate this notion of Fujimoto being a westaboo because of CSM fans who thinks Fujimoto works isn't rooted in Japanese and Otaku culture because he referenced a popular Western film! I don't think the anime adaptation is bad, I think it's a "fine" adaptation but it only perpetuate the idea of Fujimoto being a more western artist because the anime adaptation caters to normies western audiences and I hate that.
Based take. Fujimoto's style definitely feels more eastern cinema derived. And it's not like there isn't any intersection between eastern and western cinema. Directors like Sam Raimi (evil dead and Spiderman) feels like more in CSM style on big screen and that style also reminiscent of Japanese cinema that you mentioned. Sure the anime was "cinematic" but sorry it felt like a typical boring Hollywood action flick like directing which is the reason I jumped from Hollywood into anime and other stuff in the first place. (I know that animation and live action moves can't be compared on 1:1 basis but you get the idea).
All I'm hoping is that no matter what happens season 2 becomes something better.
I love season 1 though chainsaw man is probably my favorite anime
This isn't a worst case scenario though worst case scenario is if mappa drops it and some shit company picks it up
Mappa is already shit company
@@markgrayson7428 how?
To be clear, they did use cgi in the first episode. They first drew it in 2D and then used 3D to do the scene that we see right now so you are not entirely right there Chibi
Using really noticable CGI on the main characters first transformation in the first episode was not a good idea that's like if the sukana transformation in jjk episode 1 was CGI it just put a lot of people off instantly.
@@funaccount7665 Lol when the animation is too realistic elitists gonna blame its cgi
@@navi7402 If your animation begins to look like cheap CGI, it's not animated well.
Chibi do you read Kingdom?
This is an issue with a very popular media, there is a certain expectation that comes from them and if the adaptation deviates too much from it then the fans will notice and react even violently.
That is really upsetting
The thing about chainsawman anime is i find it more enjoyable in my third watch,thats because i can see clearly a little detail in the anime like the va and subtle movement and background sound
I hope this isn’t true, but if it is, and the series takes a turn for the worse than the people who complained will only have themselves to blame.
I feel a little differently on this than u. I'd say Nakayama's most involved parts of the anime (the eps he directed himself) were the "worst" parts. The other ppl who directed individual eps like the main action director were the ones who did the best cus they could BALANCE his more "cinematic/western" direction wit somethin MUCH more "creative" & TRUE to chainsawman. As a huge fan of the manga the anime surprisingly doesn't do it for me cus it doesn't feel like chainsawman for most of the runtime. I don't think it was "breakin from tradition" it was NOT adherin to the TRUE essence of p1 of the manga. I think this show will be fine if all or most of the other members of the team stay cus they did a much "better" job at bein a "cinematic" chainsawman while not forgetin to adapt CHAINSAWMAN
The only you can say this is "not chainsaw man" was if you read the manga with your ass instead of your eyes. This is the same story. The same characters. The same tone. The same message.
@@carloscauan7967 if that was true then people wouldn’t be complaining. I’m manga only tho
Which eps did nakayama direct himself?
Absolute tragedy
“Worst Case Scenario” is a bit much..
Yeah better than it Falling to some shitty studio
I'd argue that chainsaw man has better animation than demon slayer
If we are comparing season 1 of both shows then yes literally
I like chainsaw man's animation personality..it's looks true to life and mature
i mean CSM manga looks like something that should've been directed by someone like Tatsuya Oishi......it really screams his direction imo lol......cinematic as fuck but not forget about stylistic and experimental aspect....
So can someone explain what changes? Will the animation change, the story, pacing? I don't know what this means
We have no clue. The animation will probably be similar unless they get a whole new team. The tone and pacing are the two most likely things to change imo.
Bro the anime felt soo well done, it felt like an anime and yet reality
Preach chibi
Chibi, i have a question. If csm S2 were to take place. Which part of the story/ arc would it start up to?
If you are anime only then it will start from arc concerning the lady that appeared at the end. After that 3 arc are remaining 1 small and two large ones
@@Theblecquetzal I see, thx
S1 adapted 5/11 volumes of part 1, S2 would almost certainly finish part 1.
@@adamhercik581Wait, seriously? I'm not good with math, but would it really be able to do that many?!
Damn 😔
Like watching the vid before commenting. If not I could’ve been first.
W vid btw, very informative 😊
This is why we can't have nice things.
We might actually have nice things now that the hack director is gone.
@@supermonstars CSM S1 is a masterpiece. I'm sorry that you can't appreciate it for what it is.
I wasn't vibing with his direction but after the first couple of episodes I quite enjoyed how he directed the first season overall
The guy gave such a unique veiw of the show i loved the more realism angle clashed with the craziness of the characters and scenarios worked really well i hope it doesnt have a drastic shift in season 2
The realism didn't clash with the craziness. It actually complimented the craziness.
In the film making world there's a technique flim maker use to make fantasy even more fantastic
They set a level of realism for the world that sets a standard. Then when you least expect it the realism gets juxtaposed with the crazy and fantasy elements
The viewer gets so enthralled in the realistic setting of that median that when something crazy happens it totally boggles their brain even more than if the same happend in a world that was set in fantasy
If you saw a flying turtle while you walking in the park. You would be astonished has to how a normal turtle could be flying
If you were in a world set in fantasy and you saw a flying turtle you wouldn't really bat an eye
It's a shame but also understandable because Mappa just have to make decision that way and I think it's the best option for the director, studio, and those who complain. But I'm still confident that season 2 would still be great because they have a lot of talented person.
I think the success who had been the same just because of what takes place in season 1. The beginning of story is slow but everything that comes next is just amazing.
I'm straight up not watching S2 if this is true. The director brought so much flavor and identity to CSM that I feel it would be a waste of time to watch a more "standard" adaptation. I'm fully caught up on the manga and if I want to see a CSM that's more like the manga, I'll just re-read the manga.
Japan disliking chainsaw man's adaptation is so insane to me.
It's not just Japan. Real fans from the west hated it too.
@@supermonstarsThe dislike is not nearly as potent here as it is from the east.
Can you make your manga collection video
I gotta say, i wasnt a huge fan of the direction the chainsaw anime went, but i still enjoyed it very much and i certainly dont think it was a dealbreaker for the series. At the end of the day it isnt the director being bad its just my personal preference for anime, I see a lot of people dig the style of chainsaw man so i dont understand why they would change direction. Just because some fans didnt prefer the direction doesn't mean they should be so rabid over it and get the director fired, absolutely rediculous i hope they bring the director back for season 2 a dramatic direction change wouldn't serve the anime well in my opinion
It’s literally what the mangaka wanted so for people to say they know better than him just makes me mad lol.
Theangaka as never said he wanted the director to step down. What are you on???
Chainsaw man was dope and im glad it was adapted differently than normal. Breath of fresh air.
Felt like they put a lot of effort in it and I respect that. People are too critical and baby now a days
@@rigamortis4984 seriously, the covers depicted a much more vibrant and outlandish narrative but I really enjoyed the animes take, it was new, and people hate new
@@JollyGoodShowz No, we hate old. Chainsaw Man was supposed to be new and this guy just made it generic.
@@supermonstars quite the opposite but okay
@@JollyGoodShowz You have no idea what you're talking about.
Thoroughly enjoyed the show, hope the man keeps his role in production.
Damn
What's yours top 10 favorite anime
Remember Japanese people are still the chief contributor of any anime, even though technically the anime market globally has surpassed that of Japan, not all the market went into the studio.
FWIW, I think it's less "experimentation bad" and more that fans were getting a CSM that looked extremely different from what they knew and looked forward to. Plenty of off-kilter anime techniques have been used all over the place in different shows and works and been received favorably, but I - as an outsider, asking fans during the season - checked with a lot of CSM fans and most of them leaned more towards it being "Not Chainsaw Man" rather than it being good or bad. Just my 2 cents.
The thing is, the manga is not something that can be directly translated to anime in the same way. It just can't. The way Fujimoto uses panels in his manga it's practically built with experimentation. I don't think Chainsaw Man would work if they tried copying it over to anime, they should embrace the unique aspects that animation offers while letting the manga do its own thing. As a fan of the manga I felt like Ryu Nakayama did a great job at this, especially for those slice of life scenes. He took Fujimoto's heavy inspiration of western cinema, and decided to experiment by taking advantage of the pros that animation offers, like for character physical acting. I think he wanted to blend live action techniques with animation so closely that the show feels sort of outside the norm existing between the two mediums, much like how the manga does at times with all the cinematic framing. But that's just my opinion
@@irecordwithaphone1856 Sadly I'm not the one to be convinced - just a messenger.
Pretty spot on. I still give the anime an 8 though. Was really well made.
@@irecordwithaphone1856 okay? Just because it takes influence from cinema doesn’t make it a good or faithful adaptation tho.
@Thomas Ffrench I would argue it is also a good and faithful adaptation though
I watched the entire first season of Chainsaw Man and I didn't like it. It feels bland and empty.
Dam it Japan we can’t have something different & new art style anime for Chainsaw Man looked incredible I hope they don’t change it because that’s what caught my attention, not everything has to be traditional the way it is I mean look at “God Eater” it was a video game style Anime, fingers cross we get the same style Chainsaw Man for season 2
So humor me: the way I interpret the first season of Chainsaw Man is like the first half of a film. After establishing our exposition and players a causual ramp into the atmosphere of dread and confusion sets up perfectly what would follow in the second half of the film, namely the growth of our characters and the resolution of our story. I felt that this first season ended in such a quiet, unresolved manner that most would not recognize that they were on the very precipice of the total insane chaos that lies ahead. It's so sad because now the second season will never do this story justice by completing it in the manner it was intended... CINEMATICALLY. Chainsaw Man as a manga is an entirely unique, unconventional story-telling experience. The greatest injustice done to Fujimoto's vision would be to limit it's adaptated expression to be something more "traditional," "familiar," or "in-line" with the standards and practices of the anime industry. The sublimity of Chainsaw Man is that it IS peak cinema disguised as black ink on white paper and this first season did honor that inherent sentiment, the sentiment of Fujimoto, with pen as camera, operating not as mere mangaka but as an auteur in his own right. On one final, dismal note.. could you imagine if they adapt Fire Punch without any cinematic sensibility whatsoever? Pointless.
Who would've thought
I hope Chainsaw Man season 2 adapts the rest of the story into 16 episodes. I really hope it has the same director, but the color palette is slightly brighter. Here’s my idea:
- Bomb Girl can be 4 episodes:
*Love, Flower, Chainsaw > A Fine Day for Explosions > Luck with Women > Lost Love, Flower, Chainsaw
- International Assassins is 5 episodes:
* To Go to Enoshima > Suddenly > Quanxi and Fiends > Welcome to Hell > Shining Power
- Gun Devil is 2 episodes:
* Everyday Life no More > Snowball Fight
- Control Devil will be 5 episodes:
* A Dog’s Feelings > Death, Resurrection, Chainsaw > Go Get ‘Em Chainsaw > You & Crappy Movies > I, Love, Chainsaw
If they wanna use tons of songs like the last season, then they could do 4 Openings and 4 Ending songs.
I wanna see the hell arc in Nakiyama's style.
Vague spoiler ahead
The astronauts... ugh. It's a shame we may not see his adaptation of that
@@irecordwithaphone1856 I'm glad we're not gonna see it. He is devoid of creativity and would make one of the best manga moments lame as fuck, just like he did with Curse Devil and Aki stepping through a field of flowers. We might actually get something good if the hack is gone.
@@supermonstars Nice bait
@@irecordwithaphone1856 Nice argument.
@@supermonstars dangerously based
No dude, I was really disapointed by ChainsawMan, I'm not Japanese, I'm not a troll, but something about this anime was off and it put me off. Maybe it was all the over Hype that didn't deliver. Maybe the cinamatic animation... dunno. I even asked fans if S2 would b worth it with how I'm feeling and they said that S2 would pick up right away from where S1 ended and hopefully the direction would change because they felt the same. This is what happens when they market the series for a western audience in spite of the national Japanese market.
Can’t stand how picky people can be, talking as if they can direct or animate it better. I wish only the best for season 2. I loved the shit out of season 1
I like the thumbnail Jacob
Sad news if that's the case. Loved the manga from chapt 1, and loved the anime.
the director of csm is 10lvls above the nearest competitor. from hard cuts, color palettes, panning shots , focus shots etc. detailed back items that the production ddnt care if you caught or not
I wish the Bomb Girl arc would be explosive (figuratively and literally)
I loved it anyway but imagine how it would be if it was in Mob Psycho design style ? So much freedom and may have no CGI 😊
Mob Psicho, like almost all modern top tier animated anime, has a LOT of CGI. The difference is that they blend it much better with 2D parts than MAPPA. MAPPA doesn't even try to blend CGI, that's why it looks bad at times.
Mob psycho and CSM are in two different lanes. It would’nt work
@@luckyowl10 oh no the cgi wasn’t bad, I thought the Mob psycho design is better for a comedy purpose (like you can go extreme) because I love the sudden goofy moments in the manga 😊
@@luckyowl10 The only CGI that Mob Psycho 100 uses is in the background art (blended very cleverly). All of the character acting and everything else is hand drawn, and iirc the president of Bones has stated as such a few years ago. I wouldn't say it has a lot of cgi
@@yuritarted9890 They're closer in lanes than whatever MAPPA whipped up.
Great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really want to show get justice, there so many good scenes in manga that i wanna see animated at its peak!!!
Company viewpoint does make sense but hopefully this isnt the equivalent of cutting your nose to spite your face
This is what they call "Suffering from success"
All of my friends and I enjoyed the first season of chainsaw man. I thought it worked very well when compared to the manga. I will be sad if the director leaves.
The event is in 8 hours not a few days FYI
I’ve tried to watch other anime and couldn’t do it. I watched chainsaw man all of the way through
Hope it isnt true, the scene with denji and reze in the fireworks would be great with nakayama's direction
The entirety of part 2 and the remaining of part 1 of chainsawman works well. Just imagine sweet dreams playing during both the death scene or even the last scene.
I really hope that this is not true
You didn’t even remember who yoshida was, you’re a casual chainsawman fan
this sucks a lot because I really like csm but I also really liked the anime adaptaion. What made the anime imo the best thing ive ever seen is that I love how csm is, its my type of media and pairing that with the visuals the anime had was like a perfect match imo. It really feels like once I find something thats perfect to me it ends up failing or crashing. I'm sure the second season will be good but man am I going to miss the cinematography the first season had.
I mean maybe they will have another role to assist in the series instead of main director. Still not confirmed though
LOVEd the anime , didnt read the manga , but when the backlash started i went and read the whole manga , i dont get the backlash , th emanga and anime where identitical even art style wise
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT BE A PROMISE NEVERLAND SITUATION PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏