Nasadiya Sukta - The Big Bang? - The Creation Hymn - The RigVeda (10th Mandala Hymn 129)
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- Nasadiya Sukta - Questions about creation.
The Sanatana Dharma, with Vedanta at its pinnacle, is not a belief system but a scientific, rational, and sensible way of life in which there are no commandments, 'satan', messengers, agents, hell, heaven, or a bearded jealous 'god' sitting in the skies who punishes people who do not believe in him. Yet, due to the spiritual corruption that Sanatanis have undergone due to the ridiculous stories told by missionaries, invaders, marauders, and usurpers, the majority of Sanatana Dharmis (who call themselves Hindus) have completely lost the Vedantic principle of Brahman the All-Pervading Divine Principle, and have forced themselves into dark holes of superstition, dualistic ignorance, and stupidity.
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Imagine they recited this some 3500 years ago in India. What would have felt to be listening to this then? We Hindus should revive proper Vedic chanting. It happens, I am sure, but many of new generation have never probably even heard it ever.
actually Rig veda was passed on orally from thousands of years before it was transitioned to written format which was 5000 years ago.
so if we speak of time this was recited the same way for thousands and thousands of years ago
All vedas were recited 1 billion year ago.
@@user-jw1ip7ii6w no.
@@ironlake8944 why do you want no.
7000 years ago ramayana mention about vedas
Another reason why I follow the Vedas. At least this Suktam displays scepticism rather than sticking to a particular theory of evolution or creation
The saddest part is ..our education system totally discarded "Sanskrit" in most of their curriculum. My mum-dad-aunts they all learned sanskrit in their school days but for me it was not even in the Optional Language.
It's a shame beyond expression
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Which School did you go 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
You still can learn Sanskrit from vedic schools also it taught in many places funded by volunteer organizations .
True that
i gave my Sanskrit exam yesterday maybe something is wrong with your school
This suktam incites more curiosity to understand more about universe
Have you read the Srimad Bhagavad Gita?
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Jai Shri Krishna.
This feels like swarga. What a deep, manly voice and such clear pronunciations
I am so grateful to have discovered this. The Vedas are a treasure trove that must reach all of humanity. I have a humble submission though. However proud we may be of our great vedic heritage let us not become arrogant of its superiority or compare it with other religions. Let us remain true sceptics and seekers in the vedic path. In fact I feel in many ways Hinduism today has itself forgotten or abandoned it's vedic roots. I hope there is a true revival and rediscovery. My best wishes to you in this noble mission.
Jai Shri Krishna. Thank you for dropping in and for your comment. May I ask you what made you offer your suggestion that we refrain from being arrogant of the superiority of the Sanatana Dharma?
The message given in the description of the videos is, "As compared to being a believer or follower of some organised religion, being a seeker adds meaning and colour to life. The quest for knowledge of a true seeker makes their life more interesting, intellectually stimulating, fulfilling, blissful and Karmically rewarding."
Stay blessed. Harihi Om.
@@Tavamithram yes of course! I should have been more clear in my comment. Here's what I meant: the video is nothing if not a perfect rendition of the beautiful and profound vedic hymn. My comment was more a general reflection on the state of Hindus and Hinduism today who are the descendants of this vedic knowledge tradition. It was also partly a reaction to some of the comments I read here that suggest that Hindus are somehow superior...If we were brutally honest with ourselves (as I am probably being now) we would have to admit that as a religion, Hinduism has not retained the original philosophic quest (of Vedas) as part of its character. Of course, we generally do not proselytise, we are not organised under rigid church like institutions, but we have tended to become dogmatic. More so I would argue in the recent times due to political influences. So I wonder if it is the nature and structure of religion itself to become so, which is problematic. I am no scholar but as I understand, Sruti which contained gems like this sukta is I think the truth and our true heritage. Smriti emerges in response to the times they were written and may be discarded or rewritten. Therefore my plea was for Hindus to reclaim the glorious heritage of the vedic and vedandic philosophy and let go of the more rigid, ritualistic beliefs that seem to dominate our mind and actions. Neti Neti!
Thank you again for your service. Sorry if I offended you.
@@emgece2302 Thank you for replying. Not at all...I only wanted to make sure what you meant by your comment. I agree with you that our folks have not 'retained the original philosophic quest...' It is sad that the entire God concept has been so highly contaminated with ridiculous ideas that most people do not have any clue about the 'WHOLE' or the all-pervading Brahman existing equally everywhere which is the foundation of the Advaita Vedanta.
One of my humble missions is to get people interested in reading the Srimad Bhagavad Gita translated into a language of their choice at least once in their lifetime in order for them to understand the basics of the nondualistic Brahman aka Krishna. I have created a website with simple translations of all the chapters of Srimad Bhagavad Gita and have used large fonts which are easy to read. bit.ly/tvmgita
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Those who go through the Srimad Bhagavad Gita will see that Bhagavan Krishna spoke about the futility of rituals because people get carried away by them instead of concentrating on the Supreme Lord - Srimad Bhagavad Gita Shlokas 2 : 42-44, 7 : 20
I guess the awakening is happening now. Of course, it will go through different phases but the most encouraging fact is that people have begun to understand the perils that abrahamic cults pose to our Dharmic philosophy and way of life.
Stay blessed.
Jai Shri Krishna
Sure, will check these out...
However, I am not sure what you mean by " the awakening is happening now". I actually think that we are as a society regressing with the rise in midieval style tribalism and atrocities in the name of upholding religion. Isn't it ironic that the the profound monism of this religion that made it so outwardly pluralistic should become so intolerant of the other? Those who lament the sad state of social and political affairs want nothing to do with reform from within, particularly of the religious kind. And those on the other side of this fence think this is the revival we needed. As I said before, I believe it is because we have lost touch with our true purpose, realisation of the One, that we fail to see what's happening today for what it is. This religion never persecuted anyone for holding a different faith! A true revival to my mind is one that questions this current dispensation and reminds us of our true purpose. I may be in the microscopic minority in thinking this way but I hold on to my optimism....
you my friend have put it across beautifully.let us remain the true skeptics and seekers of knowledge.
The better interpretation for water is probably the cosmo-spatial void (instead of cosmic 'plasma'). My perspective though...
In Vedic Dharma you are the Seeker just like the Vedic Seers & you must perform your Karma & Dhyana (intellectual churning within) until you become a spiritually realised & awakened being one day. Om Namah Shivaya ❤️
That's the reason why followers of Santana dharm consider himself as seeker.
जयतु भारतीय संस्कृति
There is no religion called Hinduism or sanatan dharma A seeker can't be a believer.. India was a land of seekers . Many many different seekers who made different laws and culture with nothing to do with a supernatural power or God. All Scriptures are written by different human beings with no connection with God.
@@Versatileabhi If you think Rugved is a scripture like the Bible, you have my condolences.
@Guru Human I am talking about no connection with God or supernatural power..
@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 You are the one who believes that way i guess.. So keep the condolences for yourself.
@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 Your username says that you are likely a Mulhid. We need more Mulhids.
This verse encapsulates humanity's timeless quest for understanding its existence, unraveling the mysteries of the universe and its creation. It's disheartening that even yogis, Maharishis, and devas couldn't fathom the essence and origin; it leaves little hope for us commoners to ever unravel these profound truths. :)
so beautiful i have tears in my eyes
Great... proud of my legacy..vedic sanskriti
Pranamam to our Rishishwaras who through their samarpit life gave humanity the blessings of Vedas and Vedanta (Upanishads) 🙏🚩
Jai Sanathan Dharma 🕉️ 🙏🚩
Jai Bharat 🙏🚩
Namaste.
Thank you for saying 'Sanatana Dharma' and not the ridiculous term that starts with an 'H' used by most ignorant people.
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Stay blessed.
Jai Shri Krishna.
Can you speak English
how deeply philosophical and inquisitive and has an agnostic view of the creation. Imagine this thought happened 3500 years back.
As the upanishads say that GOD cannot be understood by intellectual gymnastics. That experience is beyond words and comprehension. In Sanskrit it is called ( अज्ञेय ) means that which cannot be grasped or understood.
In bigbang---everything created from a point and expand to infinite..
In vedic sanatan--everything is created from infinte oneness called prakriti to a finite universe....there is multiple finite universe created from infinite one prakriti...prakriti is constant everywhere,,and there is no change in it....
Correct nasadiya sukta is not big bang...
Yes absolutely correct
so the finite in the bigbang theory refers to the "hiranyagarbha" and the infinite is the explosion and expansion of it, is that so?
Why are you so sure of that,
Here it says there was Nothing, not infinite xyz.
Prakrit Or ANYTHING at all came afterwards, even the Gods if any.
The word used in this rig veda is also Brahman, not really Prakrit but i suppose it means the same thing in the sense youre using, eternal absolute
@@CountingStars333yes he's written it incorrectly. Also the part in the video before the suktam starts is also incorrectly put. Read 2nd adhyay of shrimad bhagwatam for better understanding
What this is saying is - There is no definition to the "source of creation"... we can never define it , but only dissolve into it ! It is too vast, it is too enormous for anyone to understand. You may experience the ultimate (through Yoga), but still dont know how it happened and why !! It will always be a mystery. you can only dissolve into it.
Hare Krishna 😇🙏
A famous Yogi has said , Shiva (the first Yogi) walked this planet (Manasarovar, Kailash), at least 40,000 to 60,000 years ago !
Yoga is too ancient. The WEST does not want to accept it. So they said 3,500 years old. There have been cave paintings of Shiva dating back 12,500 years ago. Varanasi has been re-built several times over - during a period stretching thousands of years.
Very beautiful rendition.
THE ONLY CREATION MYTH THAT MAKES SENSE.
A bit. Yeah
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every indian and every hindhu should mainly know about this .................
vedas and tradition is not for mems and chit chat
they are the guidence to how toleave
they tell us the history and gives us knowledge and wisdom which enlights and empowers us .........
Unbelievable.....mesmerizing
Very deep meaning.!
wow, this sukt presents an open question to all mankind. a perfect problem formulation awaits a number thesis.
With strength below and impulse which is above 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 srushti begins.
This is Amazing, it so Amazing that the earth feels like an atom, greatest knowledge
Very great knowledge but one thing I liked your video and there is thing I like to
recommend (not offence) :
Devas are not gods . Devas are children of aditi. Devas are the controllers of their respective natural elements , such as water,etc.
On the other hand the one which we all recognize as supreme power is sanatan.
This means that the god is always there.
Namaste. Thanks for stopping by. It looks like you have missed the core point discussed in the Nasadiya Sukta. You might want to watch the video and follow the translations again. Jai Shri Krishna.
Thanks I got your point ☺☺
Devas as children of Aditi is not in the Vedas. Its part of the Puranas.
@@sadenb this sukta talked about devas and it's from Rigveda. were you not listening properly?
Thus spoke seekers from deep consciousness. . .
Very nice
Hey Mahaan parmeswar aapne is jagat ka srijan Kiya aur Hamara bhi
Srishti se pehle bhi aap the aur
Vinash ke baad bhi aap rahengge
Aap toh aanadi he anant he.
Har kano me aap virajman ho.
Aap abinashi sat ho.
Aap hi Anatho ke Nath ho
नासदासीन्नो सदासीत्तदानीं नासीद्रजो नो व्योमा परो यत् |
किमावरीवः कुह कस्य शर्मन्नम्भः किमासीद्गहनं गभीरम् ॥ १॥
न मृत्युरासीदमृतं न तर्हि न रात्र्या अह्न आसीत्प्रकेतः |
आनीदवातं स्वधया तदेकं तस्माद्धान्यन्न परः किञ्चनास ॥२॥
तम आसीत्तमसा गूहळमग्रे प्रकेतं सलिलं सर्वाऽइदम् |
तुच्छ्येनाभ्वपिहितं यदासीत्तपसस्तन्महिनाजायतैकम् ॥३॥
कामस्तदग्रे समवर्तताधि मनसो रेतः प्रथमं यदासीत् |
सतो बन्धुमसति निरविन्दन्हृदि प्रतीष्या कवयो मनीषा ॥४॥
तिरश्चीनो विततो रश्मिरेषामधः स्विदासीदुपरि स्विदासीत् |
रेतोधा आसन्महिमान आसन्त्स्वधा अवस्तात्प्रयतिः परस्तात् ॥५॥
को अद्धा वेद क इह प्र वोचत्कुत आजाता कुत इयं विसृष्टिः |
अर्वाग्देवा अस्य विसर्जनेनाथा को वेद यत आबभूव ॥६॥
इयं विसृष्टिर्यत आबभूव यदि वा दधे यदि वा न |
यो अस्याध्यक्षः परमे व्योमन्त्सो अङ्ग वेद यदि वा न वेद ॥७॥
1. nā́sad āsīn nó sád āsīt tadā́nīṃ
nā́sīd rájo nó víomā paró yát
kím ā́varīvaḥ kúha kásya śármann
ámbhaḥ kím āsīd gáhanaṃ gabhīrám
2. ná mr̥tyúr āsīd amŕ̥taṃ ná tárhi
ná rā́triyā áhna āsīt praketáḥ
ā́nīd avātáṃ svadháyā tád ékaṃ
tásmād dhānyán ná paráḥ kíṃ canā́sa
3. táma āsīt támasā gūḷhám ágre
apraketáṃ saliláṃ sárvam ā idám
tuchyénābhú ápihitaṃ yád ā́sīt
tápasas tán mahinā́jāyataíkam
4. kā́mas tád ágre sám avartatā́dhi
mánaso rétaḥ prathamáṃ yád ā́sīt
sató bándhum ásati nír avindan
hr̥dí pratī́ṣyā kaváyo manīṣā́
5. tiraścī́no vítato raśmír eṣām
adháḥ svid āsī́3d upári svid āsī3t
retodhā́ āsan mahimā́na āsan
svadhā́ avástāt práyatiḥ parástāt
6. kó addhā́ veda ká ihá prá vocat
kúta ā́jātā kúta iyáṃ vísr̥ṣṭiḥ
arvā́g devā́ asyá visárjanena
áthā kó veda yáta ābabhū́va
7. iyáṃ vísr̥ṣṭir yáta ābabhū́va
yádi vā dadhé yádi vā ná
yó asyā́dhyakṣaḥ paramé víoman
só aṅgá veda yádi vā ná véda
1. Then even nothingness was not, nor existence,
There was no sky then, nor the space beyond it.
What covered it? Where was it? In whose keeping?
Was there then cosmic water, in depths unfathomed?
2. Then there was neither death nor immortality
nor was there then the torch of night and day.
The One breathed windlessly and self-sustaining.
There was that One then, and there was no other.
3. At first there was only darkness wrapped in darkness.
All this was only unillumined cosmic water.
That One which came to be, enclosed in nothing,
arose at last, born of the power of heat.
4. In the beginning desire descended on it -
that was the primal seed, born of the mind.
The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom
know how the "existence" is related to "nothingness".
5. And they have stretched their cord across the void,
and know what was above, and what below.
Seminal powers made fertile mighty forces.
Below was strength, and over it was impulse.
6. But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
the gods (forces of nature) themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?
7. Whence all creation had its origin,
the creator, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not,
the creator, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
he knows - or maybe even he does not know.
Great work
Vedas also explain about hiranyagarbha..what are your views over it
Awesome rendition.
Skepticism at its best👌
mind control via meditation which I do everyday brings solace to mind
Nice, but it seems you're not referring to the meditation described in the Srimad Bhagavad Gita. If someone reads and truly comprehends the teachings of the Srimad Bhagavad Gita, they will no longer need to invest time in the sort of meditation often promoted in the 'spiritual marketplace.' Instead, they can, through true knowledge, attain a default state of mind of unending bliss and peace 24/7.
Just saying.
LOving sairam. Thanks swami jee
This was the opening song of bharat ek khoj I think
Rigveda 5000 years ago ladies and gentlemen... What have we become.today? Think!
slaves of "superior" western culture.
We have become followers of Mao, Mohammad, Mary and Macaulay, worshipping their egotistical deities.
Just cycles of life, that is also in vedas.. its inevitable
Change is constant, change is eternal still we have preserved a small fraction of that 5000 year old cultures while other contemporary cultures perished, it's not a small feat!
Enough for me to reject every religion and follow Vedic Dharm 🕉️
Lord Vishnu who is the Adi Purush i.e. the very first god gave Veda to Lord Brahma for the creation of the universe. In Dwapar Yug Lord Krishna the avatar of Lord Vishnu himself said that I am unborn, I am both formless as well as I am having the form. In Dwapar Yug itself another avatar of Lord Vishnu Maharshi Ved Vyas divided the Veda into 4 parts for the upcoming people of Kali Yuga. Hiranyagarbha simply means Golden womb from whom the entire universe has taken birth who is none other than Adi Purush Garbhodakshayi Vishnu and the line that even gods don't know who has created the universe applies to other Gods like Indra, Agni, Vayu etc. it doesn't apply to Lord Vishnu who is Supreme Parabrahma ❤.
All glories to ParamaPurusha Narayana ❤
In Sanskrit (Devanagari writing), the original text
नासदासीन्नो सदासीत्तदानीं नासीद्रजो नो व्योमा परो यत् |
किमावरीवः कुह कस्य शर्मन्नम्भः किमासीद्गहनं गभीरम् ॥ १॥
न मृत्युरासीदमृतं न तर्हि न रात्र्या अह्न आसीत्प्रकेतः |
आनीदवातं स्वधया तदेकं तस्माद्धान्यन्न परः किञ्चनास ॥२॥
तम आसीत्तमसा गूहळमग्रे प्रकेतं सलिलं सर्वाऽइदम् |
तुच्छ्येनाभ्वपिहितं यदासीत्तपसस्तन्महिनाजायतैकम् ॥३॥
कामस्तदग्रे समवर्तताधि मनसो रेतः प्रथमं यदासीत् |
सतो बन्धुमसति निरविन्दन्हृदि प्रतीष्या कवयो मनीषा ॥४॥
तिरश्चीनो विततो रश्मिरेषामधः स्विदासीदुपरि स्विदासीत् |
रेतोधा आसन्महिमान आसन्त्स्वधा अवस्तात्प्रयतिः परस्तात् ॥५॥
को अद्धा वेद क इह प्र वोचत्कुत आजाता कुत इयं विसृष्टिः |
अर्वाग्देवा अस्य विसर्जनेनाथा को वेद यत आबभूव ॥६॥
इयं विसृष्टिर्यत आबभूव यदि वा दधे यदि वा न |
यो अस्याध्यक्षः परमे व्योमन्त्सो अङ्ग वेद यदि वा न वेद ॥७॥
Also in Sanskrit, transliterated to the Latin alphabet - taken from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasadiya_Sukta
1. nā́sad āsīn nó sád āsīt tadā́nīṃ
nā́sīd rájo nó víomā paró yát
kím ā́varīvaḥ kúha kásya śármann
ámbhaḥ kím āsīd gáhanaṃ gabhīrám
2. ná mr̥tyúr āsīd amŕ̥taṃ ná tárhi
ná rā́triyā áhna āsīt praketáḥ
ā́nīd avātáṃ svadháyā tád ékaṃ
tásmād dhānyán ná paráḥ kíṃ canā́sa
3. táma āsīt támasā gūháḷam ágre
apraketáṃ saliláṃ sárvam ā idám
tuchyénābhú ápihitaṃ yád ā́sīt
tápasas tán mahinā́jāyataíkam
4. kā́mas tád ágre sám avartatā́dhi
mánaso rétaḥ prathamáṃ yád ā́sīt
sató bándhum ásati nír avindan
hr̥dí pratī́ṣyā kaváyo manīṣā́
5. tiraścī́no vítato raśmír eṣām
adháḥ svid āsī́d upári svid āsīt
retodhā́ āsan mahimā́na āsan
svadhā́ avástāt práyatiḥ parástāt
6. kó addhā́ veda ká ihá prá vocat
kúta ā́jātā kúta iyáṃ vísr̥ṣṭiḥ
arvā́g devā́ asyá visárjanena
áthā kó veda yáta ābabhū́va
7. iyáṃ vísr̥ṣṭir yáta ābabhū́va
yádi vā dadhé yádi vā ná
yó asyā́dhyakṣaḥ paramé vyoman
só aṅgá veda yádi vā ná véda
There was only silence with only the sound of aum being heard. Pitch black and stillness. This Om was Mahadev, he himself along with Shakti created the cosmos. After which Vishnu was born, all Vishnu heard was someone telling him to meditate which he did for millions of years his sweat became the the ocean cosmos out came Brahma which took him thousands or millions of years to find Vishnu. After which they both starting debating who was higher and creator. Then after which Agni Lingam manifested. The rest is history. Its true Devas and other beings came into existence after the Cosmos but don't forget even Devas will die including Vishnu and Brahma when the Time comes to an end. Shiva is the only one where there is no beginning nor end. Vishnu had a beginning so of course there will be an end. I've read somewhere years ago this is the 7th Vishnu now I can't find that source anywhere.
Namaste. Thank you for stopping by and for typing a comment on this timeline. Sorry to say this, but what you have said is the kind of dualistic mambo jumbo that I stay away from and also encourage others to be wary of. Everything is one. There are no two. In case you still haven't, you might want to consider reading the Srimad Bhagavad Gita some day in order to comprehend the principle of Advaita Vedanta. Separating God from nature/creation leads to the 'My god and your god' problems.
Stay blessed.
Jai Shri Krishna
(You might ask who, in that case, is Krishna. Krishna is you, me, all beings and everything that exists. Krishna is the anthropomorphisation of the eternal, formless, inconceivable and all-pervading WHOLE aka Brahman (not Brahma or Brahmin) Shloka 12: 05 of the Srimad Bhagavad Gita should help you grasp this idea. Please also check out verses such as the following ones from the Srimad Bhagavad Gita 4: 35; 5: 18; 6: 31; 10: 20; 13: 01,02,03; 18: 20; 18: 53,54.)
@@Tavamithram Beautiful. Indeed Brahman cant be defined. Any definition of Brahman is Maya and Maya is the divine mother. The way to uncover the Maya is by getting the grace of the divine mother shakti or through a Self realized Guru such as Ramana Maharsi who can remove the Avidya (ignorance) and later we realize we were already Brahman. The main point to be grasped is we cant jump straight to Jnana Yoga (Meditation) by skipping Bhakti yoga and karma yoga as these are foundations to Jnana yoga (Brahman Realization)
Why will it be Mahadev? It was just silence. Gods came after the Brahman and are subservient to the eternal absolute.
@@Tavamithram your first paragraph and half is good, the second half is the same mumbo jumbo you accuse him of. He's just using shiva and youre using krishna.
Anthromorphising concepts should be avoided at all costs. If not then people become less wise.
@@Tavamithram absolutely correct. I can scientifically prove it too. Hopefully soon in a book or article.🙏
Do please make Kesin hymn RigVeda 10:136
Questionable translation, although appreciate reference to plasma water. Needs more discussion.
do you have any other source of translation?
Can you please tell instrument music at start of video
Nice
Hi..
Could u plz explain what are Vishnu , Brahma , Shiva ?
Vishnu ~ Entire Creation itself
Brahma~ Creator of one universe (there are different Brahmas for different universes)
Shiva ~ Nothing Ness
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Is that correct?
Plz Explain
Namaste. I suggest that you watch the two videos Part 1 and 2 titled 'An Introduction to the Vedas and 10 Upanishads' and then come back with your questions. Would that be alright with you?
This video will lead you to the crash course.czcams.com/video/GuDhwhtvuUY/video.html
Stay blessed.
Jai Shri Krishna.
नास॑दासी॒न्नो सदा॑सीत्त॒दानीं॒ नासी॒द्रजो॒ नो व्यो॑मा प॒रो यत् । किमाव॑रीव॒: कुह॒ कस्य॒ शर्म॒न्नम्भ॒: किमा॑सी॒द्गह॑नं गभी॒रम् ॥
न मृ॒त्युरा॑सीद॒मृतं॒ न तर्हि॒ न रात्र्या॒ अह्न॑ आसीत्प्रके॒तः । आनी॑दवा॒तं स्व॒धया॒ तदेकं॒ तस्मा॑द्धा॒न्यन्न प॒रः किं च॒नास॑ ॥
तम॑ आसी॒त्तम॑सा गू॒ळ्हमग्रे॑ऽप्रके॒तं स॑लि॒लं सर्व॑मा इ॒दम् । तु॒च्छ्येना॒भ्वपि॑हितं॒ यदासी॒त्तप॑स॒स्तन्म॑हि॒नाजा॑य॒तैक॑म् ॥
काम॒स्तदग्रे॒ सम॑वर्त॒ताधि॒ मन॑सो॒ रेत॑: प्रथ॒मं यदासी॑त् । स॒तो बन्धु॒मस॑ति॒ निर॑विन्दन्हृ॒दि प्र॒तीष्या॑ क॒वयो॑ मनी॒षा ॥
ति॒र॒श्चीनो॒ वित॑तो र॒श्मिरे॑षाम॒धः स्वि॑दा॒सी३दु॒परि॑ स्विदासी३त् । रे॒तो॒धा आ॑सन्महि॒मान॑ आसन्त्स्व॒धा अ॒वस्ता॒त्प्रय॑तिः प॒रस्ता॑त् ॥
को अ॒द्धा वे॑द॒ क इ॒ह प्र वो॑च॒त्कुत॒ आजा॑ता॒ कुत॑ इ॒यं विसृ॑ष्टिः । अ॒र्वाग्दे॒वा अ॒स्य वि॒सर्ज॑ने॒नाथा॒ को वे॑द॒ यत॑ आब॒भूव॑ ॥
इ॒यं विसृ॑ष्टि॒र्यत॑ आब॒भूव॒ यदि॑ वा द॒धे यदि॑ वा॒ न । यो अ॒स्याध्य॑क्षः पर॒मे व्यो॑म॒न्त्सो अ॒ङ्ग वे॑द॒ यदि॑ वा॒ न वेद॑ ॥
The seed was shree hari the energy is prakriti the one who arose was Shiva and the desire to create was Brahma .
Conjectural, and names given by us to try understand it. It is unknowable.
It was prajpati ( listen hiryanyagarbha sukta)
The Jal means Jal tatva
God Aum didn't create the universe but adorned it by Aum Rashmies.
Three immortals
God ओ३म् AUM
JeevAntama
MoolTatva(prakarti)
Space = Asatya or Zero
For more
Namaste. Who is God?
@@Tavamithram God has been called by many names in vedas but it's prominent name is ओ३म्
ओ 3 म् he is the supreme consciousness who is completely formless,unborn,Immortal, omniscient, omnipotent and Omnipresent!
Hence in Nasdiya suky a statement saying
There was nothing away or beyond from God AuM
@@Sneakingmentor I hope you noticed that this Sukta ends with a question and not a statement.
इ॒यं विसृ॑ष्टि॒र्यत॑ आब॒भूव॒ यदि॑ वा द॒धे यदि॑ वा॒ न।
यो अ॒स्याध्य॑क्षः पर॒मे व्यो॑म॒न्त्सो अ॒ङ्ग वे॑द॒ यदि॑ वा॒ न वेद॑॥ ७॥
Where did creation have its origin? Who is One that created it or did the One not create it?
That One alone perceives all from above and knows the beginning or maybe doesn’t?
That is exactly the beauty of the Sanatana Dharma, which is a path of seekers, unlike in the case of organised religions that have hard and fast rules. There is nothing called right or wrong because they are relative. All souls are in the process seeking the Truth and finding their own way, either through what is known as experiential Vedanta, such as that of Shri Ramana Maharshi, or by following great teachers. This amazing Sukta ends with a question that drives seekers deeper into their quest for seeking the supreme goal.
I asked you 'who is God' because you said 'God did not create the universe but adorned it..." which indicates that according to you God is a 'separate person or force' and this in turn refutes the nondualistic nature of existence. Separating God from the Self is a major drawback that prevents people from experiencing their own Divinity. How many people realise what Krishna said clearly in Shloka 10 : 20 of the Srimad Bhagavad Gita? He said that the Self in all beings is Him - the all-pervading and indefinable Supreme Brahman.
The seventh Shloka of the Mandujya Upanishad says:
नान्तःप्रज्ञं न बहिष्प्रज्ञं नोभयतःप्रज्ञं न प्रज्ञानघनं न प्रज्ञं नाप्रज्ञम्।
अदृष्टमव्यवहार्यमग्राह्यमलक्षणं अचिन्त्यमव्यपदेश्यमेकात्मप्रत्ययसारं प्रपञ्चोपशमं शान्तं शिवमद्वैतं
चतुर्थं मन्यन्तेस आत्मा स विज्ञेयः ॥ ७॥
The Fourth Aspect is called Turiya which is a term derived from the root ‘chatur‘. Turiya literally means ‘the fourth’. It is that which is not conscious of the external world nor of the internal world. It is neither outer nor inner consciousness and is also neither semi-consciousness nor the consciousness in the sleeping state. The state of Turiya cannot be experienced through the five senses nor can it be known through comparison, reasoning, or by inferring it from something. It is invisible, indefinable, ineffable, intangible, incomprehensible, and inconceivable. This state of Pure Consciousness is tranquil, peaceful, blissful, and incomparable. It is the Atman or the real Self. The Divinity or that which needs to be realised.
By the way, the three parts of ओ३म् or ॐ are अ-उ-म
जागरितस्थानः वैश्वानरः अकारः प्रथमा मात्रा। (अकारः)
Jai Shri Krishna (I mean Krishna, who is the personification of the all-pervading, intangible, incomprehensible, and inconceivable Self, Supreme Consciousness)
@@Tavamithram yes i know but From AitreyBhramn Granth(Rigved) you can find the answer. A vadik mantra has 3 meaning scientific,Spritual and Humanity.
AitreyBhramn Granth Explains the science in Rigveda. VedikRashmi theory explains the statement. That who made this universe? How and when?
@@Tavamithram ok now i have seen your full statement.
Universe always existed no one created it!
But it was in its fundamental form. MoolTatva(final state of matter).
Then God who is omniscient also the mool tatva. Produces vibrations known as Rashmies that brings the matter into its existence and so on. As far as about that upnishad concerned let me check it. God is pure. Nothing came from him.
Nor soul nor matter. Three eternal entities God AUM, Soul and MoolTatva.
I think shri krishna has answered the question in Bhagwat Geeta..am I right 💯
Water means the karana sagar in which maha vishnu rests
Cosmic water could mean quantum field
It would have been great if you put the lyrics ❤
tavamithramsarvada.com/2018/12/31/nasadiya-sukta-the-hymn-of-creation/
Sorry to say that the bassy voice makes it somewhat unpleasant for the ears; perhaps the sound engineer could have manage to tinker with it before being published? Thanks all the same.
Could you please tell me some contrasting differences between Vedanta philosophy, Sikhism , Buddhism and Jainism ?
Except Sikhism which belive in the oneness of GOD, all 3 seems to be same ?
Hello. It's you again. How far have you come with your preparation for your exams?
Well, as regards your question, I do not wish to get into comparing different ways of life, particularly at a place such as a CZcams comment section.
However, what I would say is that Vedanta is no 'ism'. It is the culmination of an entire process of human intellectual and spiritual evolution over long periods of time. No one is preaching anything or asking anyone to do anything. The Upanishads, which form Vedanta, because they are at the end of the Vedas, are mostly discussions and debates between seekers and their teachers. It is to be noted that the seekers in the Upanishads were also highly knowledgeable sages who had the intellectual capacity and courage to question even more spiritually evolved sages.
I have prepared a short 'Intro to the Vedas and Upanishads' course. It is available on Tavamithram's Udemy Learning Centre bit.ly/tvmudemy and also here on this channel.
Below is Part 2 of the course, which could answer a number of questions you might have. It's only about an hour long.
'An Intro to THE VEDAS and 10 UPANISHADS' - Fundamentals. PART2/2 - 'AHAM BRAHMASMI'/'TAT VAM ASI' czcams.com/video/sgAg8s_7VEc/video.html
Use headphones and enjoy the course.
Stay blessed.
www.youtube.com/@Tavamithram/shorts
@@Tavamithram
Was hoping for a straight answer ;(
But glad that you replied me
And extremely sorry for replying too late
&I've to appear for my exam next year
@@ALJ1HADSikhism in it's spritual core is advait vedanta.
Buddhism doesn't believe in constant self , Advaita does. Great lecture is by swami sarvapriyananda on this topic.
the one who created this is a genius or maybe not
Bing bang not in singularity but in complete brahma
Something's telling me that the word 'Devas' was referred to a certain group of people
Does the word NASA is inspired by this hymn?? 🙏🏽🙏🏽
:) Interesting!
National Aeronautics and Space Administration. This is the name, but your observation is apt🎉 too.
You must be joking
It's Hindu Model to understand Universe but Agnosticism is what I liked
But fundamentally Hinduism restricted itself to philosophy rather than going through detail and do Scientific inquiry
Still today we don't believe in Scientific Method
Who is we?
I don't know what you mean. All the scientific disciplines are part of the Vedangas. Do you even know of the Indian science, mathematical and medicinal traditions ?
What are you smoking or just making sweeping statements for attention? How many of six philosophies you've studied which have countless books to study?
Hinduism always had a scientific elements in each tradition but yes they got corrupted over time . Which is natural thing to happen.
The time of this sukta mentioned is not right.... Only 3500 yrs ago?
I think the actual age is far more... Because wrigveda is older than ramayana... And recent findings says ramayanas time was almost 7-9 thousands yrs old...
2:01
2:23
Could you please tell me that *the one* here refers to the universe itself or the Creator ?
3:47 here , does *the one* refer to the creator or universe itself ?
Nice. I appreciate your questions.
You have asked what the following mean:
- The one that was enclosed in nothingness
- and the one enclosed in nothing.
- that one alone perceives all from above.
I understand your questions, and it appears to me that they stem from your premise that 'that one' should mean some anthropomorphic being. Well, this is what almost all organised religions, such as the Abrahamic ones, claim and profess - that there is a creator with whims and fancies, likes and dislikes, emotions, a throne, a son, and whatnot.
Have you by any chance read any of the Vedas or the Upanishads? I have a short course which is an introduction to the Vedas and 10 Upanishads. Here is the link to it: tavamithramsarvada.wordpress.com/2022/04/01/vedanta-a-crash-course/
Brahman is the combination of Sat and Chit, namely, Shakti and Shiva, or Existence and its consciousness or awareness. In simple language, Aakaasha, or the formless and limitless sky, in which everything exists, could be called Brahman.
Take Shlokas SBG 8:13-20 for example. Shloka SBG 8:30 personifies the ultimate truth of existence and its awareness by calling it 'He.' tvmgita.wordpress.com/gita/chapter-8/
Anthropomorphisation or personification merely helps seekers in making sense of natural principles. However, taking them literally leads to the creation of religions and causes differences among people. Someone once said that if mosquitoes had a 'god,' that god would be a giant mosquito.
- Brahman is the indescribable, unknowable, all-pervading and eternal Divine principle (also personified as Krishna) is Existence and Awareness.
- Anything either abstract or material that can be perceived is like a wave in the ocean of existence. Everything that can be perceived or not perceived is the same All-pervading Brahman. Adi Shankaracharya gave the wave and a string or pearls analogy. Let me know if you would like to know more about this.
For now, doing my short Intro to the Vedanta should be of good use. There are no blind beliefs, belief in the unknown, obedience or such things in Vedanta.
The four Vedas are, in fact, an entire process of intellectual and spiritual evolution.
Stay blessed.
@@Tavamithram
I'm quite confused 😵
1) Is Brahman God ?
2) Is Krishna God ?
3) Is vedanta philosophy based on atheism
Disclaimer: My statements are not directed against anyone, any group, any organisation, or any organised religion.
1. Please read my previous reply to you at least two times.
2. It would be good if you could do the Intro to Vedanta course I suggested.
3. It is a real pity that the so-called religious (clowns) of these days are light years behind in their thinking as compared to Vedic sages who lived many millennia ago. The great Rishis of the Akhand Bharat Varsha were far too advanced in their scientific approach. Be it the Srimad Bhagavad Gita or any other such high Vedantic scripture, they are all 100% ALLEGORICAL.
4. The term 'atheism' is a cheap, kiddish, and senseless word. 'Atheism' is defined as one who is not theistic, or rather one who does not believe in a theistic being. So, would people who do not believe in unicorns be called 'aunicornists'?
If one looks at it carefully, a person who claims to be an atheist in truth accepts that there is something called a theistic being, which he or she does not believe in. Vedanta leans more towards monism. There are no childish concepts of a personal 'god', satan, deities, hell, heaven, or creation in Vedanta.
A seeker who follows the path of Vedanta to attain the ultimate truth, invariably, questions, debates, researches, and reflects, but NEVER BLINDLY OBEYS as it is in the case of organised religions.
How about watching some of my videos on similar topics on this channel? I always substantiate whatever I say through relevant references from Vedantic scriptures.
'Mission Tavamithram's SBG for all' is to encourage people, particularly the young, to move away from rites, rituals, mambo jumbo, and religion as a whole, and study the rational and scientific philosophy of Vedanta starting with the Srimad Bhagavad Gita.
You might want to check out my Udemy Learning Centre, which is a place that works on 'debrainwashing' the ignorant masses from the great land of ancient genius Rishis.
@@Tavamithram 😵😵😵 Confused much than before
Does the universe have a creator or it has come by itself and has attained consciousness?
Who is Krishna then ?
He called himself, the first and the last . He said 'everything comes from him and to him everything will be returned.' He also told that he is the supreme.
Don't you consider Krishna as the creator of the universe or do you believe even Krishna was once not in existence?
How about answering the questions I have posed earlier? Have you read the Srimad Bhagavad Gita - Yes or no? Have you studied any of the Upanishads?
Do you think that Krishna is or was a person who created all this? Seriously? I hope you have heard of the term allegory. I said in a previous post that the Srimad Bhagavad Gita and all Itihasas and Puranas are 100% allegorical.
The thought or belief that if something is there, then someone must have created it, does not exist in Vedanta. Before seekers try to get answers to their questions, they would first need to arrive at who or what exactly is asking the question. That is the quest to understand the 'I'.
Understanding infinity is certainly not easy for us ordinary humans, and hence the study of Vedanta.
I am saying it again: Pls go through what I have given above in my previous messages and continue this conversation.
The ALL-PERVADING Supreme truth or Parabrahmam has always existed. All that you think exists manifest and goes unmanifest in cycles. I gave you the link to the 8th chapter of the Srimad Bhagavad Gita - Shlokas 8:13-30
The first step to be taken before starting to study Vedanta is to learn to perceive the wholeness of existence. When you look at the ocean, your attention surely falls on the waves, but then you know the whole to be an ocean, and the short-lived waves to have arisen from the ocean. Read the short Ishavasya Upanishad. It is available on my website. Just Google ishavasya upanishad tavamithram.
The brutally disfigured conception of 'god', thanks to Abrahamic influences, has taken even supposedly devout followers of the Vedic Sanatana Dharma eons away from the Vedantic path towards attaining Brahmagnyaana or the Knowledge of timeless and All-pervading SELF.
3:52
What does this mean?
How could the creator not know the beginning?
Have you ever tried asking yourself: If there must be a creator who must have created everything, there must also be another creator who must have created the creator who created everything, and so on. It is called infinite regress.
Vedanta destroys anything and everything that is illogical and irrational. That is the whole purpose of this Nasadiya Sukta - to encourage and actually celebrate skepticism.
@@Tavamithram
Logically, infinite regression is impossible. If it's so then we would have never come into existence.
Either the universe has a creator or the universe has come up by itself .
Encouraging skepticism is ok but it causes lot of confusion
@@ALJ1HAD come out of what?
@@dthandtechtv
Come out of nothing
Is nasadiya sukta cosmogony or cosmology?
Cosmogony, perhaps?
@@Tavamithram but Also it does gives a vague idea, that it is anti cosmogony too. Right? Especially when we noticed verses 6 and 7.
@@pratibhapaul2177 Indeed. The Nasadiya Sukta closes with an open-ended question in the true spirit of the Vedic Sanatana Dharma which is a path for seekers already trodden by great wise people and one that encourages spiritual experience over any formal religious doctrine.
In Shloka 2: 12 of the Srimad Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says, "There never was a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings. We will also never cease to exist." Therefore, it is eternity, instead of the idea that everything started at some part, that is supported in the Upanishads.
Continue seeking. Stay blessed.
@@Tavamithram this was very helpful. To me, it has helped me frame good answer for my understanding.
Thank you so much 🙏🙏
@@pratibhapaul2177 You are most welcome. Have you read the Srimad Bhagavad Gita? You could check out this page in which I present some resources to study the life-changing scripture that can be called the panacea for all issues in life and beyond. tavamithramsarvada.wordpress.com/bhagavad-gita-resources
Stay blessed. Jai Shri Krishna.
Who is the author of Nasadiya Sukta? Does the Rig Veda mention any name of a sage who composed this?
Vedanth Bhatnagar from what i know no one knows it
Veda vyasa but it's tital who writes veda and lord brahma is veda author
@@greaterbharat4175 maybe kapila because he mention in rig Veda and his Philosophy samkhya is atheistic.
All Vedas are the wording of Lord shiva
The problem with finding author of rigveda is, the original rigveda is not in written form but in oral rendition. Passed from one to another. You can find out the one who first documented it, but creator of rigveda is as ambigious as the creator of universe as mentioned in nisadya sukta
Written down 3000 years ago not recited. It recited by Param Brahm itself in form of its breathing.
Can you please explain what you meant by what you wrote? Thanks.
Yea. Sanskrit language as being oldest language did not come in existence in form of writing of devanagari as we see it in present time. So All these great Vedic scriptures was existed before Gautam Buddha and he born 1500 BC before Christ according to modern day historian. So this language was in form of spoken more than 8000 years ago. If the scripts of oldest river valley civilization of Harappan could be decifer then we can assure that how old is Sanskrit because this civilization existed there more than 5000 years and their culture and life style and way of worshipping was somewhat like Vedic People mentioned on scriptures of Vedas. Example of Vedic sacrifices attire, coins depicted in Yogi mudra etc etc.
This is not bigbang--this is vedic knowledge of creation,,,all inside like cosmic water means prakriti and brahman(cosmic consiousness)who desire for the creation and then different reshmies are created and so on whole things.....
In the begaining there was nothing but prakriti(like cosmic water) is everywhere exist as oneness..from that everything arose......prakriti is not a point but it is infinite....so it is different from big bang,,,.......
lol
@@irfanaliahmed5642 I agree .. poppet said it right .. popet was shit and great.
@@irfanaliahmed5642 poppat 🤡🐷
Nothing
*Be Careful . Dev & God Are Not Same.*
*Dev Are Creations & God is The Creator.*
I suggest that you take some time to read the Srimad Bhagavad Gita, and at least the first few of the Dashopanishad (10 principal Upanishads).
Stay blessed.
@@Tavamithram Vedas are superior
In the third line, the One rose by the power of heat. "Heat" is "tapas". Which is a rather important part of the text to leave out of the translation, but in any case, how in the name of all the gods at once, can an impersonal force "do tapas"? How can an impersonal force do tapas? Someone please answer that!
In the fourth line: "The sages who have searched their hearts with wisdom know that which is, is kin to that which is not." Take that Anathema Buddhists! The difference between that which is and that which is not can be discerned, although it is difficult because they are "kin", but you have to search your heart with wisdom first. So There! Nany nany woo hoo! And don't try to argue, because sages who have "searched their hearts with wisdom" can not be wrong! It should be a criteria for putting something in Wikipedia!
In any case, someone please tell me how an impersonal force can "do tapas". Thank You!
Namaste.
1. तपस् /t̪ɐ́pəs/ Tapas means 'asceticism' but in the 3rd stanza, it is the word 'तप' /t̪ɐ́pə/ romanised as 'tapa' that has been used. 'तप' means heat. In Hindi too, the words ताप /t̪ a:p/ and तापमान /t̪ a:pma:n/ mean heat and also temperature. In the case of the third stanza, the word 'तप' /t̪ɐ́pə/ is a part of 'यदासीत्तपसस्तन्महिनाजायतैकम्' 'yadaa-seet-tapasas-tanmahinaa-jaaya-taikam
2. The fourth stanza: 'The wise who searched deep within their heart could discern between that which is and that which is not.' All that we know or believe we know, is carried over knowledge and consciousness. It contributes towards evolution. We learn from what our ancestors have discovered, and using that knowledge, we progress. Otherwise, each of us would have had to discover fire, reinvent the wheel, and make all other inventions within the short duration of a person as a mortal on the planet.
Asking questions is prohibited in organised cults and religions that teach fairy tales like those of some 'god' in the heavens, who has hair as white like wool, who made the earth, the heavens, the living beings etc in six days and rested on the seventh day. Their 'god' is said to have adopted a rather intriguing and tricky series of operations - he created light then 'night and day' on the first 'day' but the sun and the moon on the fourth 'day'.
However, in the timeless Sanatana Dharma, which has been constantly evolving, asking questions is the first advice (not commandment) to people. The Nasadiya Sukta is no statement but it ends with an agnostic question. It demonstrates that sceptical inquiry is an essential part of Dharmic culture unlike in the kind of religions mentioned above in which, people are completely brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe a story. One of Krishna's main teachings is to ask questions - e.g. Bhagavad Gita 4:34
Please note that strange and even unintelligent comments or questions are welcome but certainly not moronic and stupidly sarcastic ones that disturb or damage the decorum of the discussion about of the videos on this channel.
Wikipedia is useful but to understand something well, it would make sense to ask people who have studied the subject in depth.
Stay blessed. Thank you.
@@Tavamithram I am a sacred fool. You need my "strange and even unintelligent comments". The Universe sent me to provoke thought. It is my swadharma. But people do not like my function. No matter.
You could further refer more translation that will answer your question.
Semantics mate. Don't miss the forest for the trees.
2:10 there was only one
Means one god who existed not multiple or 33ceores it means 3:48
After years of years people made imaginery 33cr g@ds and corrupt messages
Sorry, it does not mean 'one' god in the Abrahamic sense. There is no concept of 'god' in Vedanta, and the concept of Brahm or Brahman does not exist in Abrahamic religions. Brahman should not be confused with Brahma, in the trinity which symbolise creation, preservation, and destruction. Brahman is not any entity sitting on a throne in the sky, but simply the one single truth, and the whole of existence and non-existence. It has nothing to do with any 'gods', deities, or any other such imaginary being.
The Nasadiya Sukta is a highly skeptical one. Please read the second part of the last verse of the Sukta at 3:50, which also happens to be the closing line of this awesome Sukta.
@@Tavamithram sir neo vedanta is against the vedas, vedas talk about parmatma, jeev atma and prakriti
@@Himanshu_kldWhat is neo-Vedanta, and what do you mean by 'Vedas talk about parmatma, jev atma and prakriti'? If I may inquire, have you read any of the Vedas or any of the Upanishads? How about the Srimad Bhagavad Gita?
My mission is to encourage people to study for themselves and not to accept whatever they are told by those masquerading as 'spiritual people'. I aim to prevent individuals from becoming stuck with beliefs and other unintellectual notions that have nothing to do with Vedanta, the pinnacle of all Vedic studies. In case you haven't studied the Srimad Bhagavad Gita yet, please do it now. I have a number of videos on this supreme scripture, as well as books and free courses on Udemy.
Sorry, this channel does not support anything that is not backed by evidence, reason, and logic.
Please try reading the short Ishavasya Upanishad and all delusions regarding Paramatma, Jivaatma, and Prakriti will vanish. If you wish to discuss or ask questions, you may email me. Let us maintain the awe factor of this great Sukta, the Nasadiya Sukta composed, by great ancient Vedic sages, and one which I have attempted to portray through this video.
Thanks and stay blessed.
SBG 13:04 (or 13:5 in some editions)
ऋषिभिर्बहुधा गीतं छन्दोभिर्विविधैः पृथक् |
ब्रह्मसूत्रपदैश्चैव हेतुमद्भिर्विनिश्चितैः || १३ ४ ||
(SBG 13:04)
"Great sages have sung about the absolute truth in various ways. They have stated the truth in Vedic hymns and have described it in the Brahma Sutras through REASON AND LOGIC with unambiguous evidence."
@@Tavamithram I mean in vedanta philosophy current vedantist believe there is only one consciousness, no jeev atma only parmatma. There is no material cause of this universe too & Vedas deny it and u should understand that Vedas are above the srimad Bhagavad Gita, and Geeta should match with Vedas as Krishna Maharaj ji is learned of Vedas as by his acharya ji sandipan Rishi.
Vedanta by ved vyas ji and today's vedanta is different so I used neo vedanta term the one by ved vyas ji was based on vedas
@@Himanshu_kld Sorry, but although you have not answered my questions, I can see that you have neither the Vedas nor at least the Srimad Bhagavad Gita.
So, can you please let me know what exactly you mean by 'Vedanta philosophy'? And when did the concept of 'belief' creep into Vedanta? To understand the cyclical nature of the universe, one does not even need to go to the Vedas; Chapter 8 of the SBG should suffice. Also, please enlighten me on what you think the 'Vedanta philosophy of 'Ved Vyas ji' is.
The philosophy of Vedanta mainly has three canonical scriptures, called the Prasthana Trayi:
1. The Upanishads
2. The Brahma Sutras
3. The Srimad Bhagavad Gita.
The Srimad Bhagavad Gita is known as the essence of all the Upanishads, which are at the pinnacle of the Vedas. Upanishads are the highest part of each of the Vedas, which are Samhitas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas, and Upanishads. Read Shloka SBG 2:46 (tvmgita.wordpress.com/gita/chapter-2/).
If you wish, you can go through my videos. I also have a two-part short course introducing the Vedas and Vedanta. They are available on CZcams and also on Udemy. If you wish, you may watch the following videos:
Part 1 czcams.com/video/qN668lkgDW0/video.html
Part 2 czcams.com/video/sgAg8s_7VEc/video.html
My channel and blog encourage people to ask questions and gain clarity (SBG 4:34) This requires defining what one says and, if referring to any ancient Vedic scripture, citing exact sources.
By the way, who do you think was Ved Vyas ji? Alright, please give me the name(s) of the author(s) of the Srimad Bhagavad Gita and also the Srimad Bhagavat Purana, and when were they supposed to have been written?
It’s more or less the same a Genesis in the Bible !
Hello. It looks like either you have not watched this video completely or have not read the book of Genesis. The concept of God in the Bible is totally different from the Omnipresent, All Pervading, Formless, Spaceless, Timeless and Impersonal Brahman understood through the Advaita Vedanta. Please read verses 1-27 of the first chapter of the book of Genesis and go through the Nasadiya Sukta again. The Shlokas in the Nasadiya Sukta are actually questions about creation or rather the beginning itself and are not statements as made in the book of Genesis. Harihi Om.
@@Tavamithram Are you an Indian?
Yes.
@@Tavamithram Which state are you from mate? I literally fell in love with your voice and accent (if it is at all yours) and hence the question
Thank you for your appreciation and kind words. I have lived in many parts of India but have been living in Europe for a long time. You are welcome to visit my sites. Jai Shri Krishna bit.ly/tavamithram bit.ly/tvmgita