The Real World Science In Outer Wilds
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- In this video I dive deep and discuss the real world science that outer wilds depicts. There is literally so much of it I thought about making it two episodes. But I hope this interests some of you!
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Another small detail i discovered while stranded is that giant's deep's ocean flows in a different direction depending on which hemisphere your on.
whoaaa mind blown!
Where to stranded due to fuel or did your ship get destroyed or lost into space
@@Higher-Ground I had actually been having fun doing "cannonballs!" into giant's deep by jumping out while the ship was still in auto pilot! It ended up getting stuck in orbit for a few minutes because it hit the orbital probe cannon before it's orbit decayed enough to fall down. From there I was able to make my way to it and fix it just in time for the supernova
The game uses so much real life concepts without locking itself to realism. Is amazing how much mechanics and details they added without limiting the gameplay
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*why do I hear end times playing*
I get it I guess your in a time loop
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The sky is the limit "maybe sometimes, but we have space ships"
What a good quote
I love this quote
While learning more about Quantum Physics, I’m always surprised by how well Outer Wilds holds up
I'm freaking out.......... The interloper has two tails---- one for steam and another one with charged particles influenced by the Sun's radiation. I learnt about it a few months ago, and instantly thought of the Interloper.
And the thing is.... Timber Hearth is the only planet with thermal stuff inside, I think it0s supposed to make it more suitable for having life in it?
I'm Physics degree student, and I literally have no complaints with the Outer Wilds science. It's just perfect, and funnier as it is. Even both nomai and hearthians can represent a lot of what I think the passion for science is, and the way the work of the Nomai was useful for people who came next.
I have one thing to say: I recently saw the documentary on the making of Outer wilds, and remember they said they decided that involving Relativity on the black holes would be too complicated. On 10:55 I just think you mixed it with Quantum stuff and got a different interpretation of the Solanum's fate ending. It doesn't involve time dilation (like in Interstellar). For Solanum, 6 quantum possibilities were created and on 5 of them she is dead. That's what I thought! Under a strong gravitational force time would happen faster, actually.
Anyway, you are not a science youtuber, and you made a great video explaining some of the topics!
Also... you didn't mention it, but the fact that the tornadoes on Giants deep pull you up or down depending on its rotation is also referring to a physical phenomena. Ciclons/hurricanes do behave in diferent ways according to its way of rotation. It is due to the Coriolis force. Though it's not exactly like that, hurricanes always rotate in the same way when they stay in a Earth's hemisphere. Just wanted to say it!
I was worried about this lol. An actual scientist. This videos bane. lol. Glad to know I got it mostly correct. Though I have a question. I thought satellites clocks ticked faster than the ones on earth. I assumed it was due to being further away from the gravity field. But now im perhaps thinking its the velocity causing this? or have i gotten that backwards as well?
Also, with solanum. yes, shes 5 6th dead. but i see no reason that when we die there it would give us the text "have we been here for minutes. or years? we are not quite sure but our journey is at an end". That "minutes or years" is what made me think it may be a nod to time dilation. And I Even made sure to say may. lol
@@TheLoreExplorer Come on, I'm close to getting my degree but I'm just a student! And I'm glad to explain. I'll do it as good as I can.
Yes, you are confusing both things. You could say there are two different kinds of Relativity. Special Relativity and General Relativity.
Special Relativity is cool (actually, I think anyone could really understand them if explained good enough). It's about objects when they are near the speed of light.
General Relativity comes up when they involve gravity.
Satellites have to move fast, but they are not even close to the speed of light. It's the difference of Earth's gravitational field what causes the time dilation, even if it's miliseconds or something like that.
Yes. That's what I thought. the sattelites clocks tick faster since they are further away from the gravitation field. But you said more intense gravitational fields would actually make time tick faster in the oc. So now I'm double confused lol. But I do now see your point. Times not messed up cause solanum is quantum. Times messed up cause She's essentially a quantum ghost, stuck there forever.
I'm not a scientist either... But if I think of Interstellar, the water planet and the scientist on it being dead for about a few minutes while on earth, ten years have passed: It seems quite logic to me that for Solanum due to her being close to the gravitational force of the Eye, much less time has passed than for us and the rest of the solar system.
But: If we think of it like that, it should not be possible to get back from the sixth location. That's because the sun should have gone supernova in rapid speed (relative to us) while we have been there. Or at least the time loop would have to be somehow shortened.
Did I get something wrong?
@@TheLoreExplorer When I got that ending I was pretty stumped as you. I thought slower went slower due something to do with it being quantum… (not that good with science but know a decent amount of it and the game taught quite a bit about space)…or time just doesn’t exist in the quantum moon
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You taught me more about gravity than my science teacher lmao love the video
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@@snekcube107 then you are a lettuce
Well I think he's wrong. Whiles yes, there is less mass beneath you as you get closer to a planet's core, there's also more pressure above you, so your gravitational pull would increase, not decrease. This is the reason planets(and stars)have very very hot and dense cores! In fact, more mass there is, the quicker the gravity gets stronger! For example, on a planet like earth, the gravity changes are pretty minute when you change elevation, because it's a relatively small planet, but with a black hole(something with incredibly dense mass), even inches can change your gravitational pull, drastically so, so your feet are pulled a lot harders than your legs, and your legs more than you torso, and your torso more than your head, so you get pulled apart, millimeter by millimeter! Death by spaghettification.
I mean. I could be. But pressure isn’t a magical force that gets higher the deeper you get. It’s created by other things. Such as gravity. Heat. Other forces. A normal planets core has tons of pressure because all the weight above them is pushing down on it with no where for pressure to escape. A hollow planet doesn’t have that. It would only have a slightly higher pressure due to being deeper in the atmosphere and more of that is pushing down on you. That should be the most significant thing putting pressure on you in the center of a hollow rocky planet.
@@TheLoreExplorer That's a good point! I thought a hollow planet might be different, though I also didn't really get where you got the fact that it's hollow? Yes there is the zero-g mine, but that is just a bit small, and from what we see it's solid, with small tunnels for the water and such, but I could be wrong! I'm just curious! I appreciate the reply though!
I think this is my favorite video you've done!! This is seriously awesome, the information about the interloper is REALLY COOL! there's so much attention to detail here, wow.. the idea of a quantum black hole is really interesting too.
Im glad Im not the only one to appreciate it! lol. And yeah. Combining something that can only collapse into certainty when observed, with something that cant ever directly be seen, is quite clever. its a stroke of genius really.
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I really love Outer Wilds. Only last Saturday I finally beat the game! And all I did was fly into Dark Bramble blind and the whole experience made feel really sick like I was going to throw up but in a good way cause it was like a mix of scaredness and happiness but yeah this is one of my most favourite games ever!! I also really like watching your videos as well and I really hope you get added into the game as an Easter egg
PS. One of my earliest memories of watching you was last year when I downloaded the game I can’t believe how far you’ve come!!! So yeah, keep on making Outer Wilds videos!!
Im surprised you didnt mention how the coriolis effect also exists in this game, if you go to the north/south pole of a planet and try to jetpack your way onto the opposite side in a straight line, you wont be able to, because the planets rotation will make you move in a diagonal if you check the minimap
hmmm. so, oddly enough. Even if you did make a "straight" line from north to south pole, the rotation would cause the same vertical line over the surface. the Coriolis effect(from my understanding) is due to the rotation adding to your velocity if youre traveling the direction the body rotates. which would only really be seen while trying to achieve orbit. in ow we just kind of bust through that with super powerful rockets. but i could be wrong.
@@TheLoreExplorer you can actually see the Coriolis effect on the Stranger now that Echoes of the Eye is out! Try jetpack boosting straight up while looking down, and you'll land a little further away from where you started.
Great video! I personally absolutely love science myself, and this game is a delight in that department!
Great video! It still baffles me how nothing in Outer Wilds is on rails. Everything is actually simulated in real time.
To my surprise, Outer Wilds uses N-body physics for the planets and everything in its solar system. Kerbal Space Program does not, as its planets are on rails. (though it can with the Principia mod).
To be fairN KSP's planets are only an order of magnitude smaller than _actual planets_ whereas Outer Wilds's planets are the size of neighbourhoods.
Important to point out that the use of "observation" is fictional. In reality it just means an interaction, not a conscious being perceiving it. A photon can exist in multiple spots centered on the most probably position (high probability of being in one spot, low probability of being miles from that spot), but when it collides with an electron and gets absorbed, it can only exist in that one spot. This collapse of probaility occurs with or without perception (what we assume when we hear observation)
We call it observation bc the only way to observe particles it to either shoot them at other particles or shoot other particles at them and measure the results, like a photodetector wall that changes colors at the point a photon collides with it
There was alot more editing in this, i liked it!
Very cool video man, very informative with details I never noticed
Glad you liked it!
Love the energy of these videos
On my first playtime, my camera gradually drifts that seems to depend on my camera movement's inertia. Then I saw the balls in the museum so I thought it's part of the game's mechanics. But I learned it was just a glitch on my next play 😂
This was really entertaining
I’ve never seen this channel and based on that intro I thought for a split second you were TheReportOfTheWeek/reviewbrah
Yes, yes, yes!
Wow this video was made so well; a non science education channel teaching accurate physics on par with actual science channels as well as being an outer wilds channel! Amazing 👍
Thanks so much Tom!
@@TheLoreExplorer Thanks, I've recently just started watching all of your videos as I've finished echoes of the eye and I need more outer wilds content lol
That’s what I’m here for. Given time it’ll be more and more solely about echoes of the eye. Hopefully I can keep that feeling of excitement and exploration going!
Wait... how is the periodic hourglass effect possible? At one point, either Ember receives enough mass to absorb the entire Ash twin, which will not have enough pull to get the sand back, or they get to a point of equilibrium where the sand exchange stops because neither twin is strong enough to get the sand back. The infinite back and forth is definitely not a realistic one
I don’t think what we see in game is possible or realistic at all. It’s just the idea of constant matter exchange that’s realistic. The earth and moon do it all the time just not on the scale of the game. The sun blows earth participles to the moon. Gravity and the sun pull and push particles from the moon to earth. In my theory video for the hourglass twins(which is just trying to explain what we see, not what’s really possible) I attribute it to tides and random planet alignments. The promotional material for the hourglass twins do point to tides but abstract ones that aren’t realistic.
Ghost Matter might also just be inspired by Strange Matter
Thats a hypothetical type of matter we have yet to find or confirm as real. So Im not quite sure they could even base this of its real world effects since we dont know them.
Quantum Moon and the first rule of quantum rules in the game is also backed by quantum physics: quantum physics suggest that light has dual properties: energy or particle, and its state is dependent on the observer i.e. which experiment you're conducting to reveal the property of light. Also, ofcourse, there's this famous schrodinger's cat thought experiment which described Solanum statues on the quantum Moon being both Dead AND Alive depending on how/where you observe her
No offense. But not really. Anything like that can only happen in the particle state. And the observation doesn’t require consciousness. Even the wall observes particles. And the Schroedinger experiment was made to prove that’s not how the world is. And even so. Solanum doesn’t represent this experiment. She’s never both dead and alive. Until we open a box. She’s always dead in 5 boxes. And always alive in 1.
@@TheLoreExplorer I’ve been thinking about the link to that quantum theory and the behavior of quantum objects in outer wilds and I don’t understand how they match. Because in the game the objects really only change when you observe them with your eyes, so with ‘consciousness’, but if other particles can also observe quantum objects, why do the quantum objects in the game only move when WE observe them..
Cool!
-Kepler's- Newton's law of gravitation states that the gravitational force exerted by an object on another is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the two [centers of mass].
The force of gravity experienced by a planet's inhabitant would increase as they traveled to the planet's center, not decrease - as for example they'd experience as they traveled away from the center and left the atmosphere.
Great video! How do you change the Nomai writing in the intro to say something else?
I asked some one to mod it in the game and they were kind enough to do it for me!
Lol "screw Pluto" made me laugh
Do you think you could impact a planet with enough energy to change the orbits (even by half a meter)
With the Nomai shuttle you can call back on Brittle Hollow, I’ve managed to land the shuttle on most of the planets (and the interloper)!
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I’m surprised you left out the gravity inside of the ATP. Unlike the rest of the game’s gravity, it is centrifugal, which is why it weakens and stops when you turn off the rotating platform. This is the same reason you can swing a yo-yo in a circle without the string going loose.
sry about brittle hollow but its definitely not orbiting, if the equator is moving fast enough to be in orbit then the gravity + the spin would make landing on its surface be effectively zero G or negative, similar to how a ringworld will have a stronger "gravity" the lower you go. Plus the poles would be stationary, so no orbit is keeping them up
Some of the lore videos help though, I get that its likely some antigravity stuff in the crust that allowed the nomai to create gravity crystals in the first place
Solanum's cat
if you get it you get it
if not the cat is both dead and alive until observed
Ik this was a long time ago and someone probably already covered it but there is a theory that black holes are just curved 4d space-time im considering time as not a dimension as it's liner, but anyways if this is the case than worm holes short cuts through space-time would apprar as a sphere to us and black holes have space traveling ftl which means one way travel and im assuming that the nomai a type 3/galactic civilization probably stabilized the black hole so it works as a worm hole. This is why i like sci-fi it expands theories we have no clue if they're even true and can make things not seen as possible today possible and explainable, like gravity crystals, naturally occurring artificial gravity never thought id say natural and artificial in the same word lol, but im assuming they're just very dense with a lot of counter force but the gravity is quite strong making sure that the crystal aint some star lol. Just a speculation. This comment is getting quit long though. Im just saying these things.
The other mask is the dude on giants deep (at the atp)
Looking at the video this is posted on, and the comment, I have no idea where this comes from or why you posted it here lol. But yes. 2nd mask is gabbro, and third mask is the orbital probe cannons tracking module.
Sorry for posting it on this video I saw one of your videos that said you didn't know who the third mask was and I couldn't fine that vid again so I just put it on the most recent
Ah. It was probably during one of the "explained" videos. Had to keep the mystique. Couldnt give it away right off the bat lol. thanks though bud. appreciate it.
Made my day
Yeah also like the fact that a black hole lead to a white hole is also a real theory called “Einstein rose bridges” (I think) (it also meant to get you to a reverse universe but shhh)
12:30 I'm not sure if atoms do this (though I don't have a degree in physics, so take it with a grain of salt). From what I know, electrons and photons do this
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Well it's a goofy game with accurate science... it surprised me when i first opened it and started playing.
Interstellar also has time dilation 7 secs there is 7 years on earth ( I think it goes like that)
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Why doesn't the white hole orbit the sun like the other celestial bodies?
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@@snekcube107 wat
Time dilation is really just 3 seconds per second
Time dilation is telling you everything you believe to be one second is literally only local and for you. Clocks on our satellites deal with time dilation and if its not accounted for the gps systems wont work
It is small and only a nova because super novas are for extremely big stars but small system small star so yeah
16:15 bro did this man just reveal the outerwild dlc??
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Spoilers but my favourite thing that was scientifically accurate was the atp is spinning to make it’s gravity cuase that’s how it works and you can’t turn off the gravity crystals so they wouldn’t work
6:15 it's not earth it's kerbin...
As crazy as it sounds, a lot of the quantum entanglement and super position mechanics in the game is not fiction.
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There is no God damn way you just typed your intro into Nomai writing!
Nah. Youre right...I had some one else do it for me! lol.
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Oh baby I finally get to comment "First"
What if outer wilds had potatoes?
What on earth is it with you and potatoes lol
@@BlappetureCO he's just you're average Idahoan lol