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APOLOGIES…..
THIS IS SO FOUL
YOU.
vivinos... im gonna catch you...
APOLOGIZE NOW
IVANTILL KISS AT WHAT COST 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
EVERYTHING 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
MY SANITY
"YAYYYYYY--OH JESUS CHRIST IVAN NOOO😭"
IM GOING TO SOB FOR AGES
MY METAL STATE.
so i've been rewatching the rounds and i realized something. in round 5 when mizi starts beating the shit out of luka, the guards come and pull her off of him, wrangle her away, and only after all that just START to point a gun at her head. but because of all that, the resistance had time to come in and save her.
so when ivan started doing the same thing, they began shooting him down immediately. because if they didn't, it would give the resistance time to come in and save him, and they don't want that to happen again.
that's why none of the guards approached. they would rather kill him quickly than give opportunity for saving 😭
I just noticed this too. A really neat but really sad detail...
no😭😭 i already cried but this... just hurts man
it can also be that luka is more well liked than till, and they were ok with till getting roughed up
Thank you I am now going to cry myself to sleep /j
I don't think so, in round 1 they kill Sua Instantly. Maybe last time was just a lucky big mistake
That small and tender kiss at 3:23 is such a painful yet beautiful detail. It feels like a last declaration of pure love, a goodbye and confession at the same time. I teared up at that moment.
I notice too! 😭
if i've counted properly , it looks like ivan gave till 3 kisses ?
@@dotbread5 times actually-
3:07
3:11
3:14
3:19 (I'm assuming that this is a kiss-)
3:23
@@zuki_san8735 AAA THANK YOU !! i see what you mean , thank you random protagonist !
@@dotbread I've watched this scene too much, I guess that's why I noticed immediately😭. Anyway you're welcome fellow Ivantill shipper! (I'm assuming you're one🙏)
Love how the first couple of kisses Ivan gives to till are aggressive and the last one is a sweet little kiss.
I think it’s to make the guards think that he’s being super aggressive to be sacrificed and the last little kiss is like a confession and goodbye at the same time🤷♂️
@@Meowzers_3DAAAAAMN.
You know shit is going to be fucked up when the simple art style is suddenly more detailed
Seriously
emo till 😣
fr
Tbh i think its qmeng doing the job
Qmeng cooked, she graduated from the sciences of yaoitology together with Vivinos yuritology
2:56 no, guys, it's not Ivan who first stopped singing. It's Till. When Ivan noticed it, he immediately rescued his beloved by stopped singing as well + acting like he's "attacking another constestant" which is probably considered as inappropriate to doubled the reason for him to get a punishment. We all need someone to love us like how Ivan loves Till.
어....?그런가?? 미쳤다
미친 진짜로 틸이 먼저 멈췄네
ivans love for till is to a point that it's an obsession. like he desires to consume and control every aspect of till which he can't do because he knows till won't be him if his not a firey soul with anger fighting back always(edit: someone in the comments wrote that till is like the night sky filled with shooting stars in Ivan's eyes and that's actually the most accurate way to discribe how Ivan truly wants to hold tills spark in his hands). ivans obsession scares me but at the same time i can see the reason as his had nothing to hold dear to his heart and wasn't shown any love, since it looks like he was abused by the alien master. so his way of being fixated on till is his affection and deep profound self sacrificing cruel and sad love.
(I'm crying)
헐
Oh. This sent me into a spiral
As long as Ivan isn't shot in the heart, I still have faith he's alive.
He bled through his mouth bro that’s internal bleeding. They already wanted him dead so they arent gonna treat him. I hate to say this but most likely he’s dead. I pray to everyone he isn’t.
@@cutie9 nuh uh he's chillin with sua, hyuna and mizi guys trust ☹☹
@@cutie9HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT HES NOT UR MAKING ME LOSE MY SANITY I SWEAR HES ALIVE GRRRR SNARLS
@@cutie9if he’s throwing up blood then he’s probably got shot in the lungs too ;________;
@@enclinker7951 yeah that’s what I meant I mean it doesn’t necessarily have to be lungs to be fatal just the fact he’s bleeding out from his mouth means he’s gonna die soon
but never have I ever hoped I was wrong Pls be alive PLS PLEASE
For round 7 i'd be curious to see if Ivan would pop up more in Tills mind because of how Ivan affected him in this round
I have a funny feeling that luka would try to manipulate till and break him further the same way he did so to mizi if he does get affected by Ivan badly... Not sure if that's good or bad because it did give Mizi a chance to be rescued but they might just kill Till on the spot- same way they did to Ivan.
To be honest not too confident Till can pull round 7 off, bro needs a training arc
@@nour6789LMAOOOO I LOVE THIS COMMENT
STOP 😭 @@nour6789
Something that i realised is how Till says "Let me drown in you" (0:51) to Mizi because he loves and adore Mizi, but she isn't interested in him which makes him crave that love from her even more. He wants to drown in her love but he cant because her love wasnt meant for him, it was meant for Sua. Ivan on the other hand says "I'll drown in you" (2:20) indicating that he can and WILL drown in his love for Till. "Drowning" in this case implies that he'll lose himself the deeper he goes. So this means he'll willingly love Till, even if it means he will lose himself in the process.
OH YOU ARE VILE FOR POINTING THIS OUT. IM NEVER GONNA KNOW PEACEFUL REST EVER AGAIN AFTER THIS. (/pos thank u for giving me another thing to think about at night)
Fun fact! (It's not a fun fact I'm on the brink of tears) The Korean word used in "drown" when translated literally can also mean to dye, to color, to infect, or to *taint.* Till's literally singing "Let me be tainted by you," and Ivan's literally singing "Let me taint you,"
PELASE STOP IM ALREADY HEART BROKEN AFTER READING OTHER COMMENTS WHY MUST THIS ONE MAKE EM CRY AGAIN
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SHUT THE HELL UPP
I think one of the saddest things about this is how when we see Till’s pov Ivan is never in it, but when we see Ivan’s pov Till is EVERYWHERE. Every other person or face is not important like Till is to Ivan, meanwhilr Till doesn’t even SEE Ivan. And he knew, he knew his love wasn’t reciprocated, it’s so clear in his lyrics too 😭😭 I feel like Ivan knew he was going to die the second he turned back to go with Til…. ((I JUST REALIZED THE FIRSY TIME HE ‘SEES’ IVAN IS AFTER HIS NECK IS LET GO AND IVAN LOOKS SO HAPPY RAHHH IM NOT OK))
THIS. UNTIL THE END TILL ONLY SEES MIZI. I'm devastated
@@chuuwuyal2272we are so not ok lets all hold hands in alien stage heaven
WAHHHHH
he finally saw him but it's too late rip
@@pulped69dago91STOP DONT SAY THIS MY HEART😭😭😭
I swear if Vivinos doesn't make Ivan secretly alive like Mizi, I would like cry over and over again. I keep on listening this song when I'm showering because this fits the atmosphere. Like Ivan literally liked Till for so long since they were kids and protected him. And he believed that violence can make Till look and recognize him. VIVINOS PLEASE MAKE IVAN ALIVE! IVAN X TILL IS THE MOST FAVORITE SHIP EVERYONE HAS HERE IN ALIEN STAGE!! And for the future Round 7, I wonder what Luka will look like: In a dress or in a suit or both?
Someone said it would be bad writing to do that with Ivan. I believe they are right because think about it, this whole "nope actually I'm alive" after being shot fatal wounds wouldn't make sense. Plus where do they dumb the bodies? Neither Hyuna and Mizi nor the rest of the rebellion will get to Ivan in time before he bleeds out. Maybe the next thing will be a little extra music video like All-in showcasing them trying to get out(?) not sure...
@@JAH.13Shut up. Maybe Ivan was wearing a bullet proof jacket and the blood is fake blood prepared in advance QAQ and Ivan was actually plotting this from the beginning whether alone or with Hyuna. I mean, even as a child, Ivan was able to escape together with Till. So, he must have had some places to hide and some other secrets no?
Edit: Sorry if I sounded mean in the beginning
@@xuexinushen Lol yeah I just saw "shut up" and was wondering what I said.
Denial is the first stage in the stages of grief my friend 😔
@@JAH.13I REFUSE. IVAN DID NOT DIE AND HE GOT SHOT SO PRECISELY IN THE PERFECT SPOT SO THAT IT WASN’T FATAL
@mealodymaywood He is alive and finally confessed to Till..And Till realizing how much Ivan liked him decided to give him a chance and they are still together and the rehearsals are going on for TIill's next stage..so he can win against Luke and live with Ivan..the end~
In my mind they lived happily ever after..i don't take sad endings well you see
For some reason Ivan kissing Till is absolutely obliterating my heart, cause Ivan knows that his feelings aren't truly reciprocated, but he still kisses the one he is devoted to with such passion before sacrificing himself for that person - super painful 😭
That’s why Ivan’s my favorite😔
Ivantill kiss at the cost of ivan 😕
Ivan basically said: “you can live without me, but I can’t live without you” 😭
nooo now your making me cry again 😭
Stoooop 😭😭😭
😭💔
whyy 😭😭😭
Aaah crying 😭
Everyones saying that Till is singing like he's given up but like can we talk about how Ivan sings?
He's confident and determined because he knows what he has to do😭
And the fact he was winning too.. Gosh
@@akinmedarda😭😭
NO CAUSE IT MADE ME FEEL SO LIKE STRESS OUT LIKE WHEN I HEARD TILL SING THE FIRST TIME
Like this was a major jump from his original song, disobeying in like every conceivable manner like he sang the whole part without letting the other guy sing, he killed the guitar alien all with a smirk and passion on his face. He sang with more passion and intensity in his voice and the majority was in English (I don’t think that’s really apart of it I just find it neat). However now he’s quite the opposite. He is singing like how Alien stage is intended to be sung, the genre and tone of the song is completely different than the previous song. While his voice is still really good it lacks the same spark the original song has since it was a huge shift. I know a lot of people point out how Till dresses like if he was going to a funeral and Ivan to wedding.
But I also want to point out how different their wardrobes are from the original songs.
In Round 2 till was wearing a white loose t-shirt with [not too] loose pants. He also had no shoes which again I feel was meant to show his rebellious nature. Again his current appearance is the opposite a tucked in? (Could be wrong) black shirt that is now missing any design that the last one had. As well as the tight black pants, it’s more form-fitting like he has decided to con”form” with alien stage ever since mizi disappeared. While it’s obvious that he lost his spark and is going through grief and depression because of it the I like how the a simple black outfit can reflect that.
Now on to Ivan’s outfit. The most clear difference between his previous and current outfit is the color, from black to white. However there is more about his outfit is that it was constricted I am unsure on what exactly it is (belt?) however now In round 6 those restrictions are no longer seen on him. His current outfit is (recycling the same thing i said about till) except Ivan’s outfit is less form fitting, looser reflecting that he no has anything else to hide because he already knows he will die (he definitely had this planned out) it’s much asymmetrical and has more flow in comparison to his previous outfit.
I absolutely adore how Vivinos designs the characters and their outfits to reflect the state they’re in.
The pain to realize that ivan sacrifice himself for till so he can live happily bro i cant stop sobbing 😭🙏🏽
OKAY, OKAY, OKAY- I MIGHT HAVE A BIT OF A SHORT THEORY-
In the death scene, Ivan was shot in the side of his torso something like that, and in the shoulder. It took them 2 shots to make Ivan fall I think? Most of the contestants were shot in the head or neck so…
Theres a possibility Ivan might be alive since the shots weren’t as serious as getting shot in the head or neck. I’m still not sure but we must hope Ivan is alive 😭
Right right ???? I was thinking the same ! He probably fainted because of the sudden hemorrhage ! IVAN IS STILL ALIVE !
Fr and there are some great cases in the comments about how Ivan is spoiled by the aliens and likely a fan favorite (of the aliens)
I think the two shots were warning shots. As if they were trying to warn Ivan that the next shot would be fatal. This is how aliens may show love for Ivan, because he was given a chance to live.
Sorry if there are mistakes, I wrote through a translator
@@Jurachk Thats actually possible 😮
YESSSSS
idc what anyone says IVAN WILL ALWAYS BE ALIVE IN MY HEART
YES YES. AS LONG AS WE BELIEVE
The Dude’s walking around in my brain all the time, he’ll never die
Yes Ivan and Till lived happily together and ran away from their alien captivators
IVAN MADE HIMSELF LOSE, LOSING HIS OWN SINGING TIME JSUT TO KISS TILL ONE LAST TIME.
you say one last time like they’ve kissed before THIS IS THEIR FIRST AND LAST KISS IM GOING TO THROW UP
WE BELIEVE IN IVAN SURVIVING
STOP IM BAWLING MY EYES OUT😭😭
LUCKILY! To be honest: no matter the tragedy, forced kisses are s* assault. Made me hurl to watch it. He is lucky it had a point
@@leroyjenkins1249I mean granted with the situation they’re in I don’t think their morality can compare to us on that lvl. They were raised by aliens that saw them as literal pets. Tho I get what you mean.
I just noticed this but-
During his first song Till sang a determined love song, while Ivan sang a sorrowful song. Now Ivan is singing a determined love song, while Till is singing a sorrowful song.
STOPPP 😭😭🙏
OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!😭😭😭😭😭😭
GURLL WHYYY IM SOBBINNGGGG
BYEEE 😭😭
😭
3:45 - 3:48 okay, i know alot of people love (hate) this part but i have a theory (not really relevant to the story but more so relevant to the characters? Idk) so, in this moment, we see both a close up to Tills eye and Ivans eye. Theres also a split second where we see Till from Ivan's pov as he falls, the main focus of this shot is his eyes. This scene, i think, is showcasing just how badly Ivan wanted Till to look at him. Even throughout the memories we see in this video, Till only really looks at him once or twice - when they fight, and when they try to escape.
This moment is significant to Ivan because Till isnt looking around him to see Mizi, and isnt actively trying to seek her out, when Ivan is right in front of him. Instead, there is just the two of them, on that blank expansive stage, and even then (idk if this was purposeful because it could just be lighting which it probably is) the audience seems to disappear and sink into darkness, leaving Ivan to bare his feelings and Till alone, with nothing and no one to allow him to process whats happened. This sort of sneaky way of hiding all else could be a way to cement that despite what Till thinks, its really only ever been him and Ivan together.
Anyway, back to the eye thing, Ivan keeps his gaze trained on Tills eyes because he knows that hes finally being looked at after so many years, even moments before his death (IVAN IS NOT DEAD!!!! trust ❤😋) he relishes in the idea that Till isnt looking for Mizi in these fleeting moments, but is trying to read Ivan and keeps his gaze on him, and no one else. Further on, even though this is probably for dramatic effect, when the lights on stage flicker off, it could be a metaphor for Tills ignorance toward Ivan. Till has been ignorant toward Ivans feelings for years upon years, with blinding lights in his eyes (this could be his preoccupation with Mizi or just his general preoccupation with his rage and hatred for the world) and when these lights finally flick off, ironically, he is able to see clearly. He blinks spots out of his eyes and realises; Ivan has been there all his life and now he is never coming back (BUT HE WILL, TRUST) And all this time Mizi has never really noticed him at all. He realises he now has no one, when if hed been less oblivious, he couldve seen all he had around him: Ivan.
But anyway thats just my theory 😋 THIS EPISODE IS MY ROMAN EMPIRE RAAHHHH
I LOVE THIS THEORY BUT I DONT HAVE HOPE 😭😭
@@manguiyo MANIFEST W ME 🕯🧎♀️
I don’t think everyone speculating that Ivan was saved by the resistance is really plausible, but I do think if Ivan were to survive it would be because his owner pulled some strings to save him. I know this might not make a lot of sense, but after looking back through Ivan’s round “black sorrow” I noticed that Ivan never had one of those collars that everyone else had. After rewatching this round I also noticed that Ivan seems to have a knack for getting into places he shouldn’t be, like the rooms till was locked in when he was younger and the room featured in this video (the pink room). Now, in my opinion this could mean two things 1) Ivan is really sneaky, which would make sense or 2) Ivan has special allowances into places because of how rich/famous/influential his owner is.
If this is the case, I could see how Ivan’s owner could have the ability to save him from his injuries, but that’s just a theory.
No matter what happens to Ivan I think it’s important to applaud the creators of Alien Stage. I hope they don’t change their story to better suit the wants of fans. ❤
Yeah, with the amount of staring till made to Ivan's dying body.
I don't think they can save ivan in time.
I think what sickens me the most about this is that Ivan didn't even look happy when he was kissing Till, and he died smiling because Till finally acknowledged him
a kiss full of sorrow almost.
@@SalomSands black sorrow 😭
IM FKCING CRYING WAIT
I thought he smiled because he knew for sure he was gonna die at that point and till would be saved, he looked panicked a moment before when he saw till was unresponsive
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The tragic thing for me was seeing how far Ivan has gone to keep Till safe. He literally disguised himself as a security guard to get Till out of that bar. I can only imagine the other things he’s done. I believe that’s the whole reason why he became the fan favorite. He knew being loved by the aliens would give him more freedom to protect and keep Till alive. As the favorite, he had to go through horrifying things but it was all worth it if it meant Till was still there. Truly, Ivan is the best character for me.
THIS
YEAH! Ivan already done so many for Till, just showing how much he loves him 😭 It's break my heart that Till finally look at him in the last moment of his life :')))
Till is the Mizi to his Till
FR I LOVE HIM SM
disguised at the bar? i think it was an afterparty and ivan was just there with his own guardian like till was.
I think what makes this worse is Ivan believes Till won't be affected by him at all.
NOO STOPP 😢
CW: Sexual Assault. 1:06 this is the most disturbing part of this episode, the alien Till punched appears without clothes and Till is also with his clothes wrinkled and appears to be sweaty and exhausted, which implies that his master gave his body for the night as a apologize to the alien and as a punishment to Till. And the fact Till is trying to reach Mizi's hand hopelessly after that is simply heartbreaking. He just wanted someone to love him kindly, someone who wouldn't hurt him like the aliens did. Give my boy a break...
They were also trying to force him to sing Clemetis😭you can see the lyrics at the screen behind him
😢nooo my boys been through enough shit😭😭😭😭😭
so it's true he was sexually assaulted?
THIS DOES NOT FEEL REAL
THIS ISN'T REAL
I HOPE THIS IS A DREAM
THIS ISN'T REAL
ITS NOT A DREAM OMG ITS A NIGHTMARE
NO BECAUSE IM PRAYING THEY’LL GET SAVED
Ivan sacrificed everything, even himself, for Till.
The fact that Ivan is dressed in white (like Sua) like he's a corpse while Till is dressed in black (like Mizi) like he's going to a funeral is heartbreaking.
and black hair... Sua and Ivan have black hair lmao
(im crying of their death)
i just realized that in the first round it's also the same, the one who wear white dies, and the one who wear black live but with grieve and regrets probably
How does it feel to be an Orv fan and ALNST fan at the same time?
@@lyingndyinges horrible , ser fan del ivantill, satosugu, joongdok (ayudaa)
@@lyingndying The world is cruel
"I love you. Live."
That's all I heard from Ivan in the end.
Even a month later I am still not over this, this is gonna be my 13th reason.
even in the acrylic standee merch, till isn't looking at ivan, but ivan is looking at till...
Stop im tired of crying 😭😭
This is breaking me 😿
PLEASE SHUT IT I WANT TO MOVE ONN
BRO I knew I wasn’t the only one who noticed that 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I almost started crying again
Dude enough 😭 I can't
The fact that Ivan only smiles at the end once he knows Till is safe 😭 He doesn’t smile while kissing the person he loves but only after he’s sure Till would live 🥹 I am not okay
Can I tell you about my Oc for Alien Stage? This idea, kinda has been done before. Especially with the original Macross Anime. But hear me out though . What if the male character I'm making who loves Ivan back , is half Alien and half human . But he was exiled from society . I know this is a mess but it's a draft idea so far . We haven't seen half human, half alien characters in Alien Stage. And I think it would be interesting. I haven't decided how Ivan and my Oc will meet yet. But I want Ivan to have a guy who loves him too. I think Ivan will teach my Oc what it means to be human . I was a bit inspired by the original Macross Anime and it's movie Do You Remember Love? And Gunslinger Girl / Violet Evergarden for making my Oc. I named him Noah . What do you think? 👀
Also I'm very much coping right now so forgive me of my crazy ideas. I really hope Ivan is alive.
이 해석도 진짜 좋다… 마지막에 웃는게 사랑하는 사람이 살아있을거라고 확신을 가질 수 있어서였구나 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
No lo ví de esa forma, ahora procederé a llorar más 🥲
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idk why but it feels like Till kinda knew about Ivan's feelings about him or like had an inkling about them but chose to ignore them and not acknowledge that fact like he was fooling himself. Because you can see in one of the flashbacks, when they were eating and Ivan came to sit beside Till while his cheek was bleeding, he kinda looks at him like endearingly and you can see Till briefly look at him and then turn his eyes away after that ivan licks the blood.
Not really imo tbh. All Till could think about was Mizi. Besides, Ivan used to deliberately hurt/fight with Till as his way of getting his attention but to Till, he was just a rowdy prick who was often weird (considering ivan insisted on sitting with him under the tree to watch him write) thus in all,Till never thought about him as much at all. Him looking at Ivan after he licks his blood is probably just "weird ass.." reaction rather than a "oh I think he's into me"
I just binged all of the eps and this shit was my breaking point i’m crying my eyes out
that’s so real 😭😭😭😭
Ivan is the true Gigachad of the story, he got what he wanted (made Till aware of his feelings) and sacrificed himself in order to protect who he loved, his black sorrow.
feeling kinda a little too dead inside atm after watching but ngl this comment made me actually chuckle & feel a bit better especially the "his black sorrow" at the end lol like ah so true, you shall be forever slay icon Ivan, our King (doomed) Yaoi the third 🤧😭🖤
@@mizisuamyuniverse 😂 king of doomed bl
YUPPP HES THE GOAT
For real😢😢😢
he's my favorite character in this
Idk if this detail was intentional, but Ivan looks like a groom getting married, and Till looks like he's going to a funeral. Maybe the same could be extended to Mizi and Sua.
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
THE HELL I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT AT FIRST
OH MY GOD
ITS MIZISUA ALL OVER AGAIJ
HOLY?? GOOD OBSERVATION THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT ONE OUT
The rain, when the sound cuts…like the end of a record. Or hushed clapping, like when you dimly hear sound but not. It made my skin crawl and brought tears to my eyes.
아놔 생각해보니 지금껏 나온 노래가사들 전부 스포와 캐릭터들 이야기와 관련되었는데 round3때 이반이 그 '이 이야기 끝에는 피로 물든 시린자리와 텅빈 공기뿐~' 이라는 가사도 있고 'sweet Dream'에서는 '붉게 물들어진 하얀 드레스'란 가사도 있는데 ㅠㅠ 다른 애들이 걱정된다...
The Fact that Ivan was born on 14 Feb (velentine's day) yet was remained deprived of love.
That’s the day he was adopted I believe, not his real birthday
@@villager96 can't confirm it as it's not mentioned there that if it's his adoption date or birth date. Still can be consider as bday. *Edit* : it's confirmed it's his birthday the lastest community poll post about character profile says "birthday: 0214".
@@RB_kun40567 maybe he hates that date because it’s the day he was adopted by ugly aliens 🥶
@@villager96 could be
@@RB_kun40567 why would you edit your comment though? Didn’t you say something like 'we can still consider it to be his birthday'? And no, when they were tweeting about the birthdays of the characters, everyone had birthday besides the date except him, who had *adoption* day instead. They never said what his birthday was, probably because it’s supposed to be unknown.
There's something truly sad about how Till tries to push Ivan away when he kisses him, but just goes limp when Ivan starts choking him. For a character that's always seen fighting back, when his best friend seemingly tried to kill him, he just accepted it. I think Till went into this competition with the expectation that he would lose, maybe even hoping he would lose since now the only thing that made life worth it to him (Mizi) was gone. Then, his realization of what Ivan did, the fact that Ivan must've felt for him what he felt towards Mizi - that Till dying would've made life pointless for Ivan...
El sol no necesita de la luna para brillar. Sua e Ivan no podrian reponerse de la perdida de sus amigos
STOPPP IM GONNA BITE U 😭😭
Im wondering if luca will try to provoke till the same way he provoked mizi, since he sees this as a way to secure victory. And i wanna see how till would react to that
@@totoro413 Fr, since Till is not in a good mental state the way Mizi was when the competition. I can only hope Hyuna will save Till too.
@@totoro413i don't (fully) think Luka would do that, especially since he seems to be kinda tired of winning. There could even be a chance of him working with the rebellion because of how he acted when he noticed Hyuna helping Mizi on Round 5
I Don't Know If Anyone Noticed This (Probably Not Because I Haven't Seen Anyone Talk About This), But When Ivan Rescued Till From The Bar Before Round 6 (Where He Nuzzles Him), You Can See For A Split Second That Till's Eyes Are Actually Slightly Open, Albeit Drugged. I Think He Was At Least Semi-conscious That Time, And While He Might've Not Directly Seen, He Must've At Least Had An Idea Or Something That Ivan Saved Him.
I Also Theorize That Till May Be Actually Aware Of Ivan's Feelings For Him, But He Likes Mizi Too Much To Care. And He Doesn't Actively Ignore Ivan, They Are At Least Friends, Considering He Tolerates Him Being Near Till.
0:38 Till is forced to sing "My Clematis," reading from the lyrics on the screen. I think he didn’t sing well because he was distracted by Mizi, and the part he sang was Sua's (My Clematis Ivan & Till ver). Ivan sang Mizi's part, but the aliens got angry because that wasn't what they wanted, so they showed a picture of the missing Mizi to clarify that they wanted Mizi's part sung as well.
1:01-1:08 An alien tries to restrain Till and mistreats him, evident in the subsequent scene where Till's clothes are wrinkled, and his body appears weak.
1:13 & 1:30 Till hallucinates seeing Mizi due to the effects of the drugs, but in reality, it's Ivan in front of him. That's why Ivan came back to save him. Ivan couldn’t save Till immediately because Ivan’s owner is a wealthy and influential person (he mentioned himself that he has to behave well because his owner is quite famous). That bar is where aliens showcase their pet-humans, and Ivan has all the access because of his owner and his popularity as a model.
1:23 & 1:25 Till is discounted at 50% at a store, and Ivan is tortured by his previous owner. It seems they both came from the same seller who liked to abuse pet-humans. Possibly, the alien in the "Black Sorrow" MV who wanted to throw Ivan off the building, but Ivan got lucky as he ended up at an auction and got a rich owner.
1:44 This might seem a bit odd, but Ivan should already be standing in front of the mic to ensure his voice is clearer to the audience since he wasn’t holding a hand mic or a mic close to his mouth. So, from this moment, he had already planned to reduce his points for Till's victory. In the early scene, Till was already standing in front of the mic.
2:11 - 2:14 Ivan looks at Till writing a song (perhaps for Mizi), which is why Ivan glances at Till afterward, imagining that the song was written for him.
2:15 - 2:19 The Raptor from "Black Sorrow," Ivan feels jealous about the song lyrics Till wrote, so he sets him up with Mizi to see his reaction. Ivan likes to act like a superhero, taking Till’s things and then returning them like a savior. However, this plan failed because Till firmly resisted since Mizi was with him, causing Ivan to watch from a distance.
2:20 - 2:21 After saving Mizi, Till gets injured and is treated while Ivan faithfully waits, pondering if he should hurt him more to get his attention.
2:28 - 2:35 Ivan’s bullying continues, causing Till to suffer the same wounds. Ivan licks Till’s blood, as if to say only he can heal him. Ivan also doesn’t wear a shock collar (since childhood, as seen more clearly here), indicating he can do more than he could as a child.
2:37 - 2:40 Ivan could remove the shock collar since childhood (perhaps his owner showed him how or he’s just smart, many students call Ivan a genius). Ivan doesn’t remove it in this scene because he knows Till wouldn’t go anywhere without Mizi. He just wants to reach Till, emphasizing that only he can free him, as he did in the bar.
2:54 - 2:56 Ivan glances at Till, who has stopped singing.
3:00 Ivan ensures that Till has given up.
3:23 Everyone knows the meaning of this kiss.
3:48 Till is confused by Ivan’s smiling face and not really choking him; he’s still processing everything that’s happened.
3:57 The audience has left, the lights are off, no guards are approaching-they probably don’t care, but Till clearly starts to realize something. He notices Ivan’s presence and keeps staring at his lifeless body. This is contrary to Till’s indifferent nature, who only cares about Mizi. Here, Till begins to realize that someone has been paying attention to him just as Mizi did for Sua.
Many say that because Ivan’s owner is rich, he wouldn’t let him die, but like in "Black Sorrow," Ivan is just a trophy. Once he loses, his owner will leave and look for another pet, as wealthy people do.
im gonna tweak
oh hell nah jigsaw yo ass tweaking /pos
Vivinos really said "Your favorite ship gets to kiss, but its the most unsatisfying and uncomfortable one-sided kiss ever and it only happens because one of them wants go out with no regrets."
😭
Fr. The way the my mouth DROPPED
She’s out to get us for real, lmao. Killing everyone for fun and ruining the silver linings 😩
SOBBING RIGHT NOW😭😭😭
@JohnThefarmer-ig8um Listening to a bot won’t bring Ivan back 😭
It's the "you wont realize how much they truly loved you til it's too late" trope that breaks me :( PLEASE LET HIM MIRACULOUSLY BE ALIVE BRUH I CANT TAKE IT
Notice how Ivan's body is shown we might still have hope. Sua's body wasn't shown in her and Mizi's round, so she's dead asf (let me cope i am coping im nkt entirely really sure if ivan will miraculously come out from his grave, BUT LET ME COPE)
Being delulu is sometimes not the solulu guys 😭
ONG I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE WHY SO SAD😭🙏
"you wont realized how they truly loved you,Till its too late."
It would be such a waste if a good character were killed off just like that. There's still a chance that he'll live; just trust 😭
(0:00-1:40) Based on what the video has shown i finallywant to say this: Till says "let me drown in you" while Ivan says "I'll drown in you". Till was talking about how he craves for Mizi's love and wants her to love him although he thinks she is dead. Ivan is talking about the same thing as Till but he wants Till to basically see his love for him. Every time single time Ivan finds Till with that damn collar on and takes it off of him only for Till to ignore him/still stay asleep (Ex: 1:36) its sad.
(2:56-4:48) It wasn't Ivan who stopped singing. It was Till, Ivan notices this and almost immediately helps/saves him. Till pushes away from the kiss right? Ivan keeps on kissing him and at 3:12 Till's eyes soften like he gives in and lets Ivan kiss him also at 3:16 Till looks suprised so thats probably how you know he gave in. You notice how there are no choke marks on Till? Ivan never meant to hurt him (you probably know this alr). While the alien thiga magigers shoot him the bullets go in his body not beside his body. 3:49 hes suprised. He finally realizes his feelings and just stands there. Mizi and Till lose their *lovers* while wearing black, their *lovers* die in white
THATS WHAT I’M SAYING!! IT WASN’T *FULLY* ONE SIDED 😭😭😭
@@Pigeon_haver YEAHHHH
GUYS IN 4:22 THERS THIS BEEPING NOISE, IT MUST BE IVANS HEART RATE AND THEIR SHOKED HES STILL ALIVE!!!
HAHA YEAH THATS WHAT IT IS RIGHT... RIGHT?????
I think it had to do with an alarm from the rebels breaking it... BUT MAYBE!!!
STOP GIVING ME HOPE
Perdón, no puedo hablar Ingles :c.
Pero esos son los latidos del corazón de Hyuna, ya que ella es la líder de los Humanos rebeldes, por lo que es importante saber su paradero y estado de salud.
Y no creo que Vivinos deje vivir a Iván...
IVANN IS ALIVEE. WATCH THIS IS ALL JUST A STUPID PRANK AND IVAN GOT SHOT SO PRECISELY AND PERFECTLY THAT IT HIT A NON FATAL AREA
i noticed that during till’s last line before the kiss, he’s actually not singing (2:58), meaning he was purposefully trying to lose, and when ivan noticed this he made sure till would win by acting “aggressively” on stage 🥲
You know, if you compared Ivan's performance in black swan to here, Ivan sang less emotionally here. What I theorised was that the more emotions you put in your singing, the higher points you will get. Cause if you were to hear closely when till was singing, when he thought of sua his voice got raspier. Ivan's voice was similarly like that in black Swan when he started thinking of till. Ivan wanted to throw the entire performance all along by singing more monotonously. Then at the end, till gave up, like what you pointed out. Ivan doubled down and did the choking act, but probably kissed him first because fuck it all right?
I am crying my ass out 😭
@@onigiri8125 Black swan??? Sua??? Bro what au of alnst are you watching
@@onigiri8125 the kiss also probably seemed like Ivan suffocating Till if they didn't know human gestures 🥲
@@onigiri8125realest thing ever
The hypocrisy of Ivan for mocking Sua for sacrificing her life for mizi, just for him to do the same
I knew he would do the same 😭 he said all that cuz he knew well that till only sees mizi, and if he dies, it won't affect till as much as sua did to mizi cuz mizi actually loves sua
Where did Ivan say about sua sacrificing herself?
Community post but it's in Korean tho@@pigeonpiupiu
@@pigeonpiupiu it's in the community post!
@@Wav_yyiwhich one if i may ask
아니시벌 이걸 이제알았네…..? 이 미친작품를 외국인들만 알고있었던거야…??? 개억울해
이반틸같이팝시다
어서오세요,기쁨과 사랑,고통과 절망이 아주 흘러넘치는 에이스테 세계에^^
@@user-dx9yx9rx5g고통과 절망밖에 없는거같은데요…?
@@O.o-ry1zw 에이~ 사랑도 있잖아요 ....이뤄진 적은 없고 한둘씩 사라지고 있긴 하지만요
키스했으면 죽지말고 결혼을 하라고요
I could write a whole essay about how beautiful and morbid “TILL WIN” being reflected in Ivan’s blood is.
theres a lyric in Black Sorrow about a pool of blood IM CRYING THE FORSHADOWING
@@anotherstranger1273 OMG I saw that too, this series is gonna be the death of me ;-;
MAYBE BECAUSE IT IS MORBID???
I want this on my desk first thing tomorrow morning
@anotherstranger1273 Also Everytime the lyrics "end of this story" appear it all shows Till in the scene and in both of those times that line appeared, the line that comes next fits well with Ivans "death"
Something I noticed about Ivan is that I feel like, whenever Till looked like he was feeling down or looked like he was on the verge of giving up, Ivan would do things to purposefully grate on tills nerve in order to get him to fight. I think he did that because he fell in love with Till and his fighting spirit and never wanted to see it die out. I feel like it's also part of the reason why he kissed Till during the competition as well. Because of Mizi being gone, he looked like he was on the verge of giving up and Ivan didn't want that. Granted I'm just speculating, but it feels like a common theme.
wow, i agree! just noticed that. maybe he had mutipple plans an intentions behind the kiss and strangling. making sure he would get disqualified, trying to make till mad and keep fighting..
You make me sick I want to cry
wait i have question why did ivan choke till even tho till got a higher score than ivan
@@swaggooo9638 I personally feel like it was, again, in part to incentivse Till to fight back like he always did. Possibly a wrong interpretation, but that's my perspective. I also know it's quite likely he wanted the score to stay the same so that he would be the one killed.
Ivan died for Till..😢
Hello guys I saw a person saying that when they kiss and that there is only the instrumental and not the voices, we can hear "ba-bump, ba-bump" until he fall when he goes to sleep. Have a nice day.
my day is ruined, my night is ruined. Are you going to pay for my therapy?
Oh screw you
애니도 넘 좋은데 난 노래가 너무 좋음 캐릭터랑 너무 잘 어울리고 무한반복 재생중 누가 1시간 플리 만들어달라
What’s so heartbreaking about Ivan strangling Till to save him, is the symbol of Ivan taking off Till’s collar that has shown up so many times throughout the series. In their backstory, we see Ivan taking off Till’s restraints on multiple occasions, especially the collar over his mouth. He does it back in Ankat Garden when they make their escape attempt, and he’s shown doing it in the flashback in this episode as well. While the aliens want to stifle Till’s chaotic and rebellious nature, Ivan loves that part about Till, and he wants to free him from his bindings, no matter how loud and violent he can sometimes be. But, when Mitzi disappeared, Till lost his rebellious spirit. As he sings during this round he looks defeated, hopeless, with no fight left to give. Ivan can’t stand for that. He has to help Till get his spirit back, no matter the cost. By Ivan’s final act being strangling Till, what he’s really doing is taking of his collar. He reaches for Till’s neck, for the hundredth time, for the last time, intent, as always, to free Till from the aliens. And when his hands fall away, Till is free -free from the fate that awaited him, and maybe, just maybe, with Ivan’s death, Till can regain his rebellious spirit again.
Stop, you’re gonna make me cry
stop.
I hadn't thought of the parallel between choking and he being constantly the one to remove Till's collar and muzzle.
Thank you for the renewed pain, I'll got to sleep crying again
I LOVE THIS OBSERVATION SM ARGGG
But why did Ivan have to die? I hope Till loved Ivan a little bit. I think Ivan was loved by the aliens and that's why he could be saved. If that happens, I hope they will be together.
His collar didn't explode, he just got shot so there's still chance he can be saved since he is also valuable to those alien. IVAN IS ALIVE (copium💀)
Edit: Everyone in replies is TOTALLY SANE (me included) 😊😊😊
Exactly!! Hes not like certain angel we know like kaworu!!
I like the way you think (I'm delusional)
I'm living for this
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
I'M GONNA GASLIGHT MYSELF WITH THIS IDEA TYSM 😭
I rewatched the song several times… To be honest, this is the first story that drove me into serious depression. I lost 5 kg in a week, I just couldn’t get food down my throat. I should probably send Vivinos my hospital bills.
As for the further plot... I assume that Till needs at least some motivation to participate. Now he has nothing left, and he does not need victory in this competition, fame or money. The aliens have nothing to offer him.
So I see only two ways: They need to catch Mizi and blackmail him with her life or they need to save Ivan and keep him in a coma, promising healing if Till wins.
I like the second version. Because Mizi is not a match for Till at all, all her love was for Sua, and all even after this she was having fun with rebellions, there was no Till in her mind.
what scares me the most: the authors wrote, that the heroes must overcome themselves with the death of their loved/friends. But no. If Till remains without a person who really cares, there will simply be one black hole left instead of soul.
Я надеюсь ваше состояние сейчас лучше(
@@getchi4904 на самом деле я нашел в этом даже что-то хорошее… когда есть не хочешь, но присутствует немного самосознания и обязанность ходить каждый день на работу, начинаешь питаться идеальным минимумом. Одного яйца в день достаточно для восполнения жиров, один кусочек темного шоколада и черный кофе дают таурин и сахар, а отварная говядина размером с два спичечных коробка - белок. Ну и горсть витаминов в таблетках. И, в принципе, ты здоров и даже сносно функционируешь. Наверно как то так же чувствовал себя Иван)))
Holy shit are u okay
Damn you should sue them 😭😭
I am seriously concerned, how tf, are you okay
이건 진짜 평생을 살아도 못 잊어...이거 100번은 본 거 같은데 안지겨움
Can we talk about how Till's final score is 89 and in Round 3, when Ivan wasn't self-sabotaging, his was 90? One point difference. Again. The parallels to Mizi and Sua are endless. I'm so tired Vivinos, what about my mental health? Huh? I've got exams coming up and all I can think of is these two little bastards. I miss you so much Ivan.
😢😢😢
SAME..
I have my final exams and MAN I WANNA *** DIEEEE
Good luck on your exams y’all
SAME😭
Notice how Till's neck doesn't even have marks of choking? That means Ivan was just holding his hands on his neck, not even trying to hurt him... God, I'm crying...
와....😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
So does that mean that Ivan was faking the whole choking part so he would be disqualified?
@@rat_5219 yes 😭
Yeah@@rat_5219
OMGGG TYSM NOW THE TEARS JUST WONT STOPP 😭😭😭😭
이반은 그냥 틸이 자신에게 집중하는 그 순간마다(비록 찰나일지라도) 희열을 느끼는 돌아이이자 순애인게 너무 ㅠㅠㅠ 하.. 이 희생으로 이제 틸은 미지보단 이반을 보게되려나... ㅠㅠ 이러나저러나 틸도 살리고 결국엔 시선을 자신에게 돌려 죽는 그 순간까지 "이반"이란 존재를 틸에게 각인시킨 이반이 진정한 승자라는게 ㅠㅠ
One month in....seven years worth of pain
IVAN SMILED AT THE END WHEN HE REALIZED HE WAS DYING AND THAT MEANT TILL WOULD LIVE AND THAT ENOUGH MADE HIM HAPPY EVEN WHILE DYING I AM IN SHAMBLES
WAIT OMG I JUST REALISED THAT HE'S HAPPY BECAUSE HE'S GONNA DIE INSTEAD OF TILL OMG IMMA CRY IN CORNER
STOP IT I'M ALREADY CRYING HARD ENOUGH
I'm literally shaking I'm not okay.
@@pigeonpiupiu I'm crying in my bathroom.
I think it's also because for once Till looked at Ivan in the eyes. It's sad though that in his last moments Ivan is finally in Tills eyeline, yet would never have the same impact as Mizi.
“Thank you for being a victim of my shallow emotions” 😭😭
STOP
STOOOOOOOOOOP NOOO
Will this fandom ever experience any happiness?
@@rimaaktay9339 no❤
@@rimaaktay9339 Everyone suffers equally :)
2:59 The music in this entire scene is my absolute favorite part. The lack of vocals really puts the focus on what’s going on, the instrumental in general is so good, the drums, and the guitar _ohhhhh_ THE GUITAR, and _THAT_ tune (idk what to call it exactly) at 3:28 coming in once Ivan starts getting shot, as we see the absolute resolution on his face and his determination to die in Till’s place…it’s so cool. I prefer it much more than the “original” unedited duet version. Even though the other version’s also good, this is the version that’s been playing in my head on loop non-stop.
This is why visuals is important in music! And why music is important in visuals _especially_ in animation. The music and the scene wouldn’t have had as much impact (it literally caused alnst to trend on twitter and tumblr!) if they were stand-alones. They’re like clean-cut pieces created exactly to go together. I cannot hear the music without thinking of the scene and vice versa. I love Alien Stage.
RIGHTTT THAT PART OF THE SONG AWAKENS SOMETHING IN ME... ITS SO SATISFYING YET IT JUST SOUNDS DEVASTATING
Damn Ivan's voice is incredible
I didn't even notice that Til stopped singing until I listened to the official video from Studio LICO. In this video you can hear him sing in the audio but if you watch his lips he stopped. That's why Ivan acted when he did, otherwise Til would have lost then and there.
STOP THIS, I CANT TAKE ANYMORE! I’ve cried way too much bc of them already 😭
AAAHH WAIT YOURE RIGHT I DIDNT EVEN CATCH THAT…... oh im so sick of *course* he stepped in then
I had to rewatch to catch it!
Although in this case it's probably like that, in previous rounds it also seems to be that voice ≠ animation
@@escolastica2926 also because the song is cut short here. The Studio LICO version has another couple of verses that they didn’t get to cause Til stopped.
I know people keep saying we don't see any trace of Ivan in Till's eyes until it was already too late, but I think it's more tragic to point out that we do see Till 'see' Ivan during his section. When they were kids, when Ivan had no light in his eyes. So, I think it'a more appropriate to say that the end was more like the first time Till ever saw the light in Ivan's eyes and been able realize that that light had always been for him.
i have nothing to say this comment made me weep 😭
I am not mentally stable enough for this (thank you for the analysis)
STOP IT .
You’re just making my pain worse, oh gosh
Stop, please stoppp making me cry
It’s been a month and I still haven’t gotten over this video, it’s driving me crazyyyyyy
The voice actors need a raise holy crap ITS SO GOOD
the fact that in the first round Mizi wore a black dress and Sua a white dress and in the sixth round Till wears a black outfit and Ivan wears a white outfit represents that, Ivan and Sua died in peace for the person they loved while Till and Mizi they will mourn their sacrifice...
STAWP😭😭😭 MY HEART CANT ANYMORE. WHY DID I HAVE TO SEE THIS 😭😭
ACTUALLY ABOUT TO BREAK DOWN IN TEARS. AGAIN.
Why am I still scrolling through these comments 😭
WHAT A GOOD FUCKING READDDDD WOW THATS WILD🤯🤯🤯🤯
IT'S ALWAYS THE FUCKING BLACK AND WHITE PAIRS 😭😭😭
He couldn't bear the idea of losing Till, so he gave himself up instead... 😢💔
IM GONNA CRY stopp
POOR TILL
I CAN'T DO THIS
STOP IT ☹️☹️☹️
doooooont say thattttt
I cant stop coming back to watch this. This round seriously is just such a gutt puncher but I cant stop watching/listening. I seriously love how well animated it is and the atmosphere for this heavy song (THE RAIN/STORMY WEATHER???¿¿¿) I cant even begin to explain how much I loved how well the emotions were animated in the kiss scene as well, how it started off with confusion, leading into anger, then finishing off with Ivan ensuring Till would win before giving him that last gentle genuine kiss before saying goodbye to his universe. vivinos team when I CATCH YOU I SWEAAAARRRR
2:20 이반이 "너에게 물들게" 라고하고 3:53 이반의 피로 물든 Till win...
Because of the rain and the loud music and the fact that he closed his eyes, I don’t think Till knew that at that very moment Ivan was being shot. He has already accepted that Ivan was gonna kill him. And it’s not until the very last moment, when Ivan’s grip loosens which urges him to open his eyes, that Till sees Ivan is dying.
It’s also the first (and the last) time that Ivan showed tenderness, one that’s not done in secret, both in his actions and expression towards Till. And it’s only when the violence stops and the hidden tenderness comes out amidst all the hurt that Till finally takes a glance to what was already in front of him, to see that Ivan was protecting him, to see that Ivan loved him all along. But it was too late then.
In the end, the one way Ivan learned how to get Till’s attention (through violence) was their downfall. It was Mizi’s gentle and kind nature that drew Till towards her, even though that gentle and kind nature was directed towards Sua. If Ivan had shown that same gentleness and care towards Till right from the start instead of only ever doing it in secret, then maybe Till would’ve looked at him soon enough.
But I think a part of Ivan didn’t want for Till to do that, no matter how much he yearned for it, because he knew that it would’ve just hurt Till the same way Sua’s death hurt Mizi.
"In the end, the one way Ivan learned how to get Till’s attention (through violence) was their downfall" The way the rope teleported to my neck🤣🤣🤣
This adds more hurt to me. Thank you
I don’t think ivan’s being gentle would’ve changed anything. We can see scenes where ivan is being nice to till (them sitting under the tree), but Till doesn’t pay much attention to him, the only time till looks ivan in the eyes is through violence. This can also be seen in lyrics like “Notice my pain” and “in your gaze where I am seen”. WHICH MAKES IT SO MUCH MORE HEARTBREAKING
@@BriyaCielyess 😭😭😭 and ivan was incredibly kind when he found a way to escape with till yet he still chOSE MIZII AND WE CAN SEE IVAN HEARTBROKEN BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE KNEW TILL WOULD DO THAT AND IF HE DIDN'T HE WOULDN'T BE THE MAN HE LOVES 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭do you guys wanna be invited to my funeral
The way that the only times Till's eyes regain their light is when Ivan is being gentle with him: when he puts his hand on his cheek, when there's that moment of silence between his kisses, and when he let's go of Till's neck and Till understands he never meant to hurt him AUGHH
Ok but nobody talking about Till’s vocals???????? He had already shown a more soft vocal in Clematis but THIS 😭 he sounds so tired and broken
Edit: Also the fact that Ivan sounds so composed in comparison to Black sorrow where he lowkey snapped at the end, He was so sure of what he was about to do, bro I cannot with this
Both voice actors were on a mission to DESTROY us
Hearing Till not singing violently and more to soft voice is just so..🥹 bit to add that Till look really dead in his eyes,he really had enough of this things(he even accept ivan choked him and not even fights back😭)
Especially at 2:48 I keep listening to it on loop it’s really a change from the past round
right!! i love akugetsu’s voice so much
@@irazzx._1312FR, ngl for a second there I really though that Ivan was going to make both of them die together
@@1987_wav THAT WAS MY FIRST THOUGHT TOO!💀
Ivan can't be dead...we can't accept this:( he became my favorite character, and I know he's everyone's favorite too
OKAY WITH ALL THE TIMES IVE RELISTENED TO THE WHOLE SONG I WAS LIKE “why don’t i ever remember hearing this last part in the video release 🤔” AND ITS LITERALLY BC IT WASNT PLAYED JUST A SEPARATE UPBEAT INSTEUMENTAL PART BC THAT PART AT THE NEAR END AINT UPBEAT so they did that to keep the tension and nerve wracking aura
3:23 you see the way this kiss was less aggressive than the other ones? He did that once he saw tills score going up and his going down. This was a more genuine kiss of relief and a kiss to say goodbye, it was softer than the others because Ivan was saying goodbye.
Y'ALL GOTTA STOP THIS 😭😭😭
The way u got me sobbing 😭😭😭 all I can think about are these two
STOP THIS
Screaming. Crying. Throwing Up
PLEASE STOP
He wasn't choking him since there were no marks visibly left. Ivan was trying to save Till by doing that. I'm crying..
WHHUSBUHS CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS FOR ME? PLS, IM A LITTLE BIT SLOW
@@TheLawlessRogue People are theorizing that Ivan's doing a special type of chokehold where he's holding Till's neck from the sides instead of the front so that makes it seem like he's choking Till without actually hurting him. And he did all that to guarantee Till's victory.
Si, estoy segura de que Ivan noto que Till iba a perder y lo asfixio para salvarlo, por eso las balas eran dociles, porque eran de advertencia para que parara 😭
@@TheLawlessRogue he was doing it so his score would go down and then Till would win
Till’s score was already higher than his though?
I watch this again, and still the shivers is same like the first time i watch this. Their voice, the moment, the drama in it, the story, their difference in beauty, the feelings, seriously everythin is perfect
This is called the light hair and dark haired queer ship curse, whenever two queers are inlove and one of them has dark hair and the other has light hair, they will ALWAYS have a bad ending.
😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
no....sasaki and miyano could NEVER
Suguru.... Satoru...
link clink..
It’s the way that at the end, after the painfully one sided kiss and the “choking” (which even if till wasn’t actually being choked it’s still painful to have someone grab your neck like that) Ivan gives one last small, gentle kiss knowing it’s the last thing he’ll ever do right before he dies
Ive rewatched this too many times
@@Betonryn literally me too im so sad augh
I was waiting to see if anyone else saw it! Dude I swear PLEASE let Sua and Ivan be alive or else I swear on my life I will commit arson
@@SqueakyA5 I aspire for your level of delusionality 😭 I don’t think they making it outta this one all we can do is hope that Mizi doesn’t get caught and that round 7 doesn’t have a death
@@SqueakyA5 FOR REAL
What I noticed, what I understood and how I interpreted this.
1.- In the first seconds of this round we hear the beatings of a heart while we watch different moments of Tills life and the experiments that he has endured, almost like he is watching his life pass in front of his eyes. He expects to die at the end of this round and when his actual face is revealed it shows how everything he has gone through is finally taking a toll on him (of course this happens after his reason to live is no where to be found, without Mizi he doesn’t see a reason to move forward).
2.- When he starts singing and the picture behind him shows we can notice the differences between his personality now and how it was back when mizi was “alive”, he is clearly boring the audience as they all look at him with an unimpressed gaze (also, he is competing against a fan favorite). And the phrase “ I don’t want to let you go” makes reference to mizi. Every single line he sings and almost every memory makes reference to her and to her death, Till genuinely thinks he is dead without her.
3.-Then we get the first and only memory of Ivan. From Till’s perspective we get that both of them got into a fight when they were kids and the gaze that Ivan used to look at Till is rather…. Sadistic Unbothered?. I think this is the perception that Till has of Ivan, he isn’t able to read him and therefore has always thought Ivan was annoying him for the fun of it. This scene shifts to a memory of Ivan, as he finds Till knocked out in the karaoke bar.
4.- It’s clear to see the parallel between both memories, the only thing that makes a difference is the way that Ivan looks at Till, his eyes are sparkling, as he is looking at his beloved.
5.- This parallel between scenes shows us that Till doesn’t actually know about Ivan’s feeling for him and that he has always interpreted them as hatred or dismissive, in the other hand, Ivan actually looks at Till lovingly in every memory of himself, he even has the permission to take of the collar of Till. (I don’t think every human can take off the collar of everyone else, but Ivan CAN. This makes me wonder if he is the one who usually saves till and takes care of him, to the point that the guardians have ALLOWED him to do so).
6.-Ivan lyrics also makes reference to Till in every moment. “Even if your cold words carve scars beneath my eyes…” this clearly makes reference to the way Till treats Ivan (which I assume is not pleasant, as Till is almost unaware of his existence). For example: In a community post we see Till complaining about Ivan wishing he would go away, he thinks that Ivan’s presence is making Mizi go away. Ivan just states that Mizi never plays with him, the one that does so is Ivan.
7.- Is almost as if Mizi takes the place of Ivan in every memory of Till, that’s the level of obsession Till has of Mizi.
8.- I wouldn’t be surprised if Ivan was constantly devastated from the things Tills says. This lack of acknowledgement forces Ivan to do drastic things like getting in a physical fight with Till and sadly this is the ONLY memory Till has of Ivan (paragraph 3) so this drastic measures actually work.
9.- The next scene reflects what actually Ivan wants to be noticed, the looks of affection he gives, the gentleness. Nonetheless, the only thing that gets a reacting from Till are the things Ivan doesn’t like (dramatic gestures). And I think Ivan doesn’t really like the grand gestures because of his judgment of Sua and her decision to die for Mizi. (The ultimate sacrifice just for the sake of being remembered).
10.- I want to make another point, in round 3 we can see a flash back of a red flower crown flying past Ivan and Till going after it. I think what happened is that Mizi made this flower crown for Sua, the flower crown flew away and till wanted to get it back for Mizi (who wanted it for Sua) Mizi and Till go into the home of an alien flower (also shown in the memories) and the flower eats this flower crown, making Till try and fight with the alien plant to get it back for Mizi, Till ends up getting hurt and Ivan just watches from the back. (This is what I can deduce with round 3 flashbacks). In this round we see another flashback of that same day (maybe) where Ivan is watching the plant form the back and one where he is touching its teeth, I think either Ivan calmed down the plant or he managed to get the flower crown from its mouth without getting hurt, whatever happened it culminated on Ivan getting Tills wound treated (Mizi probably fled the scene or trusted Ivan to take care of Tills, as they were close friends even if Tills doesn’t seem to recall that).
11.- Then Ivan is seen caressing Tills wounded face in a hospital and finally Tills running away from their attempted escape. This is even more devastating as we can now interpret their escape as Ivan’s way of saving Till for the millionth time, expecting to be saved at the same time, expecting Till to be grateful and running away with him because maybe, just maybe, Till will care enough about both of them to move forward and finally acknowledge the sacrifices Ivan constantly makes for him, but alas, Till runs away and decides their fate.
12.- We see a glimpse of real life Till being depressed as Ivan pours his heart out in the chorus. “In your gaze where I’m seen…” he doesn’t even look at Ivan in the memories nor in real life. Till cannot see the suffering in Ivan, and Ivan just sees the suffering of Till. Ivan was never seen, every glimpse of his memory he longs for the gaze of Till, but he never acquires it.
13.- “Face to face we dance…” Ivan keeps looking at Till, trying to make it about them. “With our story…” Till looks in front of him thinking about Mizi. He stops singing and Ivan directly starts his plan. Even when he KNOWS Ivan is heading towards him, Till is not bothered to look at him. 3:04. Until he has to.
14.- And for the first time the roles change, The one with sparking eyes is Till and Ivan just looks at him without anything. The first kiss they shared and Till is still unable to read Ivan. For him, this came out of nowhere 3:15. His surprise changes to alert when Ivan grabs him by the throat. Ivan isn’t even hurting him.
15.- Ivan is concerned for the lack of resistance that Till shows, Ivan has fell in love with the resilience and defiance of Tills personality and now it’s nowhere to be found. The numbers change and Ivan’s plan works, he starts being killed for the “aggression” he is committing. Even when he is dying, till is not looking at him. Finally he lets go, as he ensures his loved one will survive. And as he falls his last picture is Till finally looking at him. Ivan smiles as a last goodbye, the smile is enough to make Till understand everything he hadn’t noticed before.
There is no people, no Mizi, no aliens, no cameras and no microphones. It’s only Ivan, as the spotlight focuses on them, Till realizes he has lost the only thing that was constant, the reason he has actually managed to survive this long.
Meanwhile, Ivan is now the thing he despised, he has done this last grand gesture to make Till look at him (paragraph 9). He has died in what he longed all along. Maybe it was never meant to be.
Edit: OMG GUYS YOU ARE SO NICE.
YOU CAN COOK ✍️💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
You explained everything so well, thank youu 😭
niceee
😭
You explained it so perfectly, no words. 🙏❤️
IVAN SMILED SO AMAZINGLY WHEN HE BLEEDED FROM HIS MOUTH, WHY DOES IT LOOK SO GENTLE. I'M CRYING. HE SEEMS TO BE SAYING THAT HE'S HAPPY BECAUSE TILL WILL NOW DEFINITELY STAY ALIVE IN THIS ROUND 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
КАЖДЫЙ ДЕНЬ ПЕРЕСМАТРИВАЮ,ЭТО ПРЕКРАСНО
I like how the music beat is a heart beat, then when Ivan dies it disappears.
HELLO?!??!
THATS GENIUS
And after that scene there is a peep sound which sounds similar to a heart monitor which could mean that Ivan will survive
Who hurt u
@@IvanIsalive-ie1fvBELIEVERS
Just hit me that everyone in Alien Stage is loved by someone… except for Ivan
Sua loved Mizi, Mizi loved Sua, Till loved Mizi, Ivan loved Till
BUT NO ONE LOVED IVAN
I'm sorry but, no one like Luka
And Hyuna loves herself😍
I love ivan guys!!! HWAHAHAH (istg, they better revive ivan)
I LOVE HIM 😭 jk but damn bro. All my fave people keep dying
Girl I have a 20 document of Alien Stage being break down and it’s not only love (personally) is how each “couple” is being perceived as a savior of a god, and how this is a reflection of freedom (savior) and god (faith). Like for Mizi, Sua was her faith or universe and for Sua,Mizi was her freedom, both cannot exist in Alien Stage bcs they can’t have either a faith or freedom so one most be sacrifice, and so the same with Till and Ivan. In Ivan’s view Till was his faith (god), but for Till he was always fixated to look into Mizi that he never corresponded to that love freedom Ivan needed, so Ivan at the end sacrificed himself just like Sua, but unlike Sua sacrifice, it wasn’t only meant to completely destroy Mizi, but to give faith to Till that was close to give up. (I might be wrong but let me be delusional. 😭)
I did not expect to cry so much when i clicked on this random animated song series
I wish vivinos would make more art of ivantill like I love the couple ❤️. BUT NO MATTER WHAT I LOVE MIZISUA FOREVAAAAA
MIZISUA 4EVAAA
THE LITTLE SMOOCH IVAN GIVE TO TILL BEFORE DIYING AS A FREAKIN FAREWELL TO THEN START "CHOKING" HIM SO HIS OWN POINTS DOWN AND ALSO HIS BELOVED AND FRIEND DOESN'T SEE HIM BE SHOT TO DEATH JUST BREAKS MY SOUL 😭😭
IKRRR I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT BCUZ IM LIKE I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE
He wasn't even choking him because there were no marks on Till's neck 😭 He made it look like he was choking him so he'd get eliminated.
@@cookies_and_kitties6586 WOOW I DIDNT NOTICE THAT
I AM GONE.
FR I CRY
At 3:46 Ivan's smile basically said ''You finally looked at me'' IM CRYING
im gonna cry 😭🙁
OMG
IM LITTERALLY PUJCHING THE WALL
UR NOT INVITED TO MY IVANTILL BIRTHDAY PARTY
Y si, ayyy lloro 😭😭😭
i am never gonna get over this
구라같겠지만 가슴아파서 이거하고 블랙 소로우하고 이제 못듣고 있다..다른애가 부르는거 듣고 있다ㅠㅠ 뭐하는 짓인지..근데 진짜 지하철 타고 가면서 눙물나올 것 같음ㅠㅠㅠ그니깐 젭알 이반 살려줘요오오!!!음악을 찐으로 못듣고 있다고오오!!!ㅇㅜㄴ
i'd just like to point out the fact that ivan fell in love with till because of his rebellious attitude and his spirit, when he fought against that monster dog thing when he they were still kids at the episode for round three. and the fact that part of till had only shone out because mizi was there with him, presumably wanting to protect mizi by fighting back against the monster. i think ivan finally really starts to understand the extent of how much till loves mizi when he saw that till had no fighting spirit left in him to fight back when he choked him. to me, it wordlessly told ivan that he fell in love with the rebellious fire of a boy that was ignited by someone else. that till's hope was mizi, and that the fire would extinguish alongside her disappearance. that fight in till was never for ivan to fall in love with, it was for and because of the hope he gets from mizi.
AHHHHHH GOD THIS COMMENT HURT 😭😭😭 good analysis oh my god
Omg that's such a good theory
you just tore my heart out with this omg
you are so fucking right YOU ARE RIGHT YOU ARE RIGHTTTT
That's a really good analysis! It really change my view on this video😭
I gotta get this off my chest. It's about my interpretation of Till's feelings. I was having a hard time understanding why Till loves Mizi so much, like I don't think there was ever a scene where it "hits" me like "oh so that's why Till likes Mizi". In comparison to MiziSua (Round 1 and the Mizisua extra where they first met and formed a connection, and Mizi associate Sua with God), or in Ivan's POV (he became impressed by Till standing up to the monster, and associate Till with the beautiful meteor shower he saw when he was little). In round 2 of Till's POV it started with him seeing Mizi and Sua together, and most of his first memories of Mizi has Sua in it. There was not a highlight moment between him and Mizi, nor was there any moment comparable to Mizi and Sua's encounter, or Ivan's POV of Till. That got me thinking that maybe, just maybe, Till didn't love Mizi, but love how she looked being in love? A lot of his memories about her in round 2 were her being with Sua, while Till was only observing, and wishing to know more about her (as his lyrics said). I suspect that he wanted to be loved like that love she had (maybe he thought that if it was her, she could give him that kind of love). This is just my speculation though. If it was true, it would be devastating now that he knew Ivan loved him, yet he'd never once looked back that Ivan.
OH MY GOD¡
NOOOOOOO
난 차라리 이 해석이 사실이었으면...
아니라면 이반의 사랑이 너무 안타까워..ㅠㅠ
this is it. you’re a genius
That did not cure my heart 👤😭
if this isn't playing at my funeral i don't want it
I think that ever since Ivan got dangled over an edge of a building by his former owner/enslaver Ivan has been the ideal human pet. He is compliant, he never rebels, he never wants anything, thus he is a good boy and he has the privilege of not ever wearing the collar (even Luka wears a collar in Hyuna's flashback to Anakt Garden). In the whole series Ivan wears the collar only once - at 1:25 when he also has bruises from a beating and his eyes look extra dead when he looks back at someone, possibly Till. That might be after he tried to escape with Till. Ivan himself doesn't wish to escape, he is apathetic to everything except Till who makes him feel something for the first in a long time (that's why Ivan is so happy in the flashback punching Till into the ground), but he saw Till trying to escape with Mizi when they got stopped by a guard dog, and thus he tried to escape with Till (we can even see Ivan cuddling to the mouth of the guard dog - befriending it), because that's what Till wants, right? And Till was elated by their escape at first but then he remembered Mizi who is his hope, this idealized version of her he desperately clings to without really knowing her, and he returns to the Anakt Garden. Ivan returns, too, but he doesn't try to escape anymore and is largely unsupervised thus he can go check up on Till when he is beaten and s*xually as*aulted (his alien owner is suddenly stripped and Till's clothes are rumpled, so his owner made Till pleasure him instead of singing) at the karaoke club (it seems they were wanting Till to sing My Clematis lol). Ivan is also able to remove Till's collar and go places he shouldn't be at, he seems to be way too knowledgeable, which makes me think his alien owners doesn't really pay much mind to what they do around him, because he is such a good boy and he would never.
And opposed to that Till wears his collar all the time, even during the competition he is wearing the collar which make him the only one in the whole series. And during ROUND 2 he was even plugged in as to double assure that he wouldn't be causing any trouble but he did anyways. They heavily sedated him before ROUND 6, the whole sequence at the beggining is just Till getting pumped full of obedience juice, even in his eyeballs (the red irises and dark hair made me think it's Ivan at first but I think the colors are there for contrast and to disturb the viewer more). It's not the collars exploding that kills the participants as some people say, because no one except Till ever wear the collar during the matches, it's always the guards firing the shots.
And one other small detail I noticed: despite Till's eyes contracting in shock when Ivan went over to him and caught his face in the palm of his hand, Till's pupils dilated. He even closed his eyes, first from extertion as he tried to push Ivan away, but then he gave up and grabbed onto him instead, he then proceeded to close and open his eyes few times more and I just don't think he would give up on fighting so quickly even when pumped full of drugs. Then why didn't he fight more? He wasn't imagining Mizi either, because Mizi is the perfect icon, gentle and optimistic, this kiss was anything but. I will just leave you all with this thought. Till was already an emotional wreck during ROUND 6, can't imagine how broken he will be in ROUND 7 after this emotional damage Ivan has inflicted on him in his quest to save Till's life.
And kudos to anyone who's read all this. 😂
I’ve noticed Till’s pupils dilating too. Perhaps I’m reading too much into it but it seems like a parallel to the moment we see Ivan’s pupils dilate in Black Sorrow…
It’s also very sad how in that moment, when Ivan caresses Till’s cheek, we see light in Till’s eyes for the first time in this round.
And speaking of reading too much into things, Till’s pupils also seem to dilate in the frames between 3:06 and 3:07 but whether or not that was intentional I’m unsure. It’s an even more minute detail compared to the first time we see Till’s pupils dilate and could easily be unintentional. I don’t put much stock in it but if it was intended then it’s nice attention to detail on the animators’ parts.
Notice how starting from 2:54 of the vid, Ivan's eye lack those glint or white stuff on his eye, they only came back when, FIRST, when he was looking at the scores. Then SECOND, when he was shot for the last time.
Notice how he lacked those glint while kissing Till. It's as if he wanted Till to hate him even more, so that the ending can be less painful.
Notice how, even with the cold demeanor and forcing Till, at the end, he was able to be relieved that the person he loves most got to live.
That even then, Ivan managed to show who he really is to Till before dying.
Just like in Black Sorrow, Ivan's mask broke because of Till, and in the end, Ivan's end, it was still Till who broke that mask of his. Only Till.
STOP YOU’RE MAKING ME SOB
im sure you also suffered typing this comment as much as i have suffered and cried soooo much reading this. bet it was like :
'notice...*sobsobsob* how even, *cries*'
It felt a lot like ivan was trying to make till hate him even more so till would remember him, kinda like how it was hinted that sua originally was going to sacrifice herself for mizi to save mizi and also so mizi would remember her
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@msk-qp6fn hits hard when you remember the community post where Ivan talks to Sua about being selfish and sacrificing herself because Ivan sAYS to her "you'll be a traumatic experience to Mizi"
he knows Till doesn't love him, nor even look at him even when Mizi isn't around, but he still plays up his cold persona so Till doesn't pity Ivan when he dies- which knows he will. Ivan doesn't want any good memories attached to him in Till's mind so that Till can continue fighting and live on with no heartbreak.
I love how much Alien Stage reflects a lot of cheesy TV tropes like the love... circle? Triangle? Where everyone likes everyone but never back thing. But instead of playing it for a joke or something silly, it's written in a way that breaks your heart into a million pieces because the contestants' love is the one thing they got to choose for themselves.
OOF that last bit hit me HARD
I literally hate you (this was great thank you for commenting this)
the last part hit hard, and you are right, ALL of it is not their choice, their clothing, how they are shown to their fans, their music (only Till got to sing a song he created alone)
More like a love line LOL, Mizisua was mutual but sua is dead, till loves mitzi unrequited, ivan loves till unrequited, and nobody loves Ivan....
@@pigeontoes5421YEAH. Pretty much - Don't forget the additional Luka-Hyuna one-sided pining.
(noone loves ivan? the fanbase begs to differ/j)
This video was the reason I found out about this series. It got recommended to me randomly. I have gone back and watched them all. I am now devastated he is dead.