So how did England outmatch Wales? | Six Nations 2023 Analysis
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It’s been quite the week. A much-improved England beat an even more improved relative to their performances yet still less good Wales, leaving both sides unsure how to feel. So, what are England building, and are there positives to take for Wales?
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If you're not going to do a full video at the end of the six nations about the Italian games then I'm going to be very disappointed :(
I'm pretty sure he said he was going to on Twitter!
Hes just waiting for them to play Wales and then talk all at once about how Wales did or did not deserve the Wooden spoon
See: 31:52
Italy have been fantastic. A revelation. That performance against Ireland would have beaten Ireland most years.
@@JGrowl-er9mdvery true as much as I love my team , Italy had us on the ropes a lot ,way more then wales did
31:30 I love the longer videos and if that means they're a bit delayed, it's totally worth it.
TBH, after watching, I have to replay at 1/3 speed with captions on to catch all of it. There is so much packed in that to compress it more is overcrowding our brains
Incredibly optimistic view on Wales Squidgy.
Way back in my school days, I was taught about Irish poet Patrick Kavanagh, who is famed for finding beauty in the banal and ordinary. And I think Squidge is the rugby equivalent with this fantastic analysis of a game that frankly bored the piss out of me and everyone else in the pub
So eloquently said
Doubly pissed
Englands defence was incredible because of the lack of ruck challenges, which means they have more men on their feet, one mistake pass leads to a intercept try which wales licked up like a pair of balls on a dog, but apart from that England are building something but will all good things to come is that time is needed, something borthwick doesn’t have, I’m just hoping a miracle can happen in France for the red roses
Farrell needs to find his shooting boots or make way to Marcus Smith for anything to happen in France
It reminds me of the All Blacks defensive structure a few years ago
As much as I want us to be World Cup contenders, we won’t be. There just isn’t enough time. I think the best we can hope for is a semi-final this time round and make 2027 the goal.
@@somanytakennames depends what teams silk u likey face I quarter finale ?
"licked up like a pair of balls on a dog" - that my man is a saying I will be borrowing 🤣
Squidge, I love your videos, your content and analysis, but would it be possible for you to start using chapters for your video. It would make them more easy to follow and I think would also make them have a more clear structure. Thanks so much for the amazing video.
I know a lot of people say that squidge hates Ireland but I think he hates Scotland more because the only time he ever uploads a Scotland game is the calcutta cup
@@markthomson5534 true
I'm really glad to hear you talk about the mental/emotional state of the players. Too often, we get so bogged down in analysis that we forget these aren't robots executing their coaches' gameplan. Belief and passion are essential for a team to be greater than the sum of it's part's.
At this level their passion is for executing like a robot! Serious point, I don’t think the players are all that motivated by “national pride” etc. just look at how chummy they are with the opposition in the tunnel
I can't help but think that Italy are going to hand Wales' arse to them. The way they play (Ireland light) is so hard for a team like Wales to play that I can only see it go one way.
You're right, and I'm Welsh! They're blwdi awful right now.
@@MrSimonmcc they're in a period of transition at the worst possible time. If Gatland took the wheel even 6 months before he did, they'd be in a very different situation.
I wouldn't say Italy are any better than Wales, but even Ireland and France struggled against them at times. Italian accuracy isn't where it needs to be, but they're hard to play against.
@@Backpfeifengesicht45 Italian rugby has come on leaps and bounds in the last couple of years. Wales deserve to be where they are in the World standings right now. It's disappointing because there just doesn't seem to be any cohesion in the squad and no plan B. I'm not even sure there's a plan A. Everything changes I guess. I can remember when Scotland were the whipping boys.
@@Backpfeifengesicht45 I mean Ireland were missing over 10 players, they play so many matches that rest is a necessity these days
According to Squidge Wales are really good except for the bits where theyre really bad, but apart from that theyre good and they just "need to believe" etc.
Is Jack Willis the new Marcus Smith for Squidge? Personally, I think Jack is probably one of the best flankers in the world right now. Suppose each to their own.
Agreed. I think he's more mocking the media and their obsession with talented young players... They just go ham! But no reflection on Willis, he deserves the hype. He will easily be world class if he keeps on his trajectory. The thought of seeing Curry, Willis and Mercer in a back row together is also very tantalising!
It is worth remembering he's mocking the media coverage of the player rather than the player themself
You’ve got to say Sam Simmonds is the best number 8 in the world if you want a BT job
that dragged out intro to the sponsorship was one of the greatest I have ever seen in my life😂😂
Bloody great video, really highlighted a lot that I'd missed. Thanks Squidge
Love your videos, humorous but insightful. Great work
Very interesting no Scotland v Wales vid..... But we have a England v wales vid...........
that game was the easiest job for the pundit ever
just say "Freddie Steward" eery 30 seconds
another great video im starting to look forward to watching these than the actual games now !
Farrell was fantastic on Saturday everywhere but the tee. It is one of those games that he will be remembered for his poor goal kicking instead of his fantastic game management, his near perfect kicking from boot, his sublime passing. Really a shame
Love these vids, mate. Keep it up!
Squidge so glad this video was posted, was having a bad day so happy to see this was posted this has brought me so much joy
Great analysis of Owen Williams's play, Squidge. Fascinating.
My son put me onto Squidge Rugby and I love it. It's one of the reasons I prefer watching the Six Nations over my local NZ teams in the Super rugby.
Agree with everything apart from AWJ having an “excellent game” he was easily the worst lock on the pitch. The best part of his game is offensive rucking which was ineffective. Apart from one offload you wouldn’t know he was on the pitch.
Agreed. Was watching this at my local club and we were comparing him to one of our locks because he was Competing at breakdowns he doesn't have a sniff at so he doesn't have to make tackles/get exposed elsewhere
Not sure he was the worst lock on the pitch - apparently Beard was playing, not that anyone noticed
Thanks again for the awesome break down!
Great stuff Squidge.
I enjoy these videos often more than the matches. Keep it up!
Great video for a boring game.
I've enjoyed these more than any of Wales matches so far!
Great video squidge and much prefer the extended full analysis.
This game was not an entertaining spectacle (for most) compared to the more fluid running/passing/ball-in-hand/high scoring games but I’m glad these games exist because they demonstrate the honesty of a team’s low confidence or adjusting to new set ups.
If every game is a ‘classic’ then it quickly devalues the memorable true classic games.
I did enjoy it for the two imperfect teams trying to win without the full toolkit at hand. Some times the sectacular is like the critisum of Mozart, 'too many notes'. If a game is slick and fast it can seem like a walk over and less like a contest. I like to see the contest and in this game you could see it.
WHOO, SQUIDGE IS BACK. Just in time for the next wales game!
Love the videos!
My daughter is a toddler and keeps shouting 'SUPA-FAST!' as she runs across the living room. I showed her LRZ and said 'SUPA-FAST!', she agreed.
I've been critical of your work before when it comes to Wales & England analysis, but this was an amazingly good deep dive on both performances whilst sticking a pin your own bias. Thank you Squidge, a pleasure to watch.
Fantastic and made the game more interesting in retrospect. Thanks as ever
Great video Squidge, as asual !
About every comment asking him for specific videos about this or that match, I don't know if it's a good idea to put that much pressure on creators. Don't forget there's a human being behind the videos, who I'm sure put everything he can to produce quality content in such short amount of time :)
Chill bro 😂fans just asking for content he’s a youtuber
A bit of chronological order wouldn’t go amiss 🤷♂️
Mate, your content. Is amazing.
Squidge I do congratulate you on your detail
Outstanding video, Squidge. Personally I really enjoyed the match - it was certainly entertaining with some moments of great skill from both teams. It certainly looks like England are on the up right now, but I don't think we'll be seeing an upset in Dublin or Paris.
Love your stuff but I think you missed the really obvious. George gave away the softest of penalties and Zamit scored an intercept try. That was all of Wales' points. England left 8 points on the field with Farrell kicking like the tighthead of Old Twatonians III. The score could have been 28 - 0 and no one could have complained about it not reflecting the game.
I mean, he has explained that the intercept try wasn't just blind luck. But as a very pessimistic Welshman I do agree with that point. We have scored 27 points this championship and that is flattering to be honest. It is unacceptable and while I do acknowledge the improvements in this game to keep us in it at the 70 minute mark it does feel like we need to do *something* to start improving on our points conversion
I love Squidge but his detail-oriented approach does sometimes miss the wood for the trees.
The problem is assuming that these crucial moments of initiative by players are part of some orchestrated master plan rather than just split second decisions executed by experienced and rugby smart professionals within a wider structure.
Shape, tactics and analysis matter more in rugby than ever before, but anyone who has played at any kind of level knows that rugby remains a profoundly psychological game, even in the most elite tournaments. You can't plan or control nearly as much as analysts pretend.
@@olivera3365 Hi Oliver. Yes, I agree Zamit's try wasn't sheer luck but a rush defence was also nothing out of the ordinary.
I think the bottom line is that England are marginally less ordinary than Wales at the moment. I hope both teams pick it up before the WC.
FYI, fact is you barely beat a poor Welsh team
@@benwilliams-up6ud as I said earlier in this thread
"I think the bottom line is that England are marginally less ordinary than Wales at the moment. I hope both teams pick it up before the WC."
you've got to do an Italy match! I assume the only reason you analysed this awful match is because most of audience are from these countries.
It was probably also because both teams have new head coaches so it makes for interesting analysis on which new directions they are headed.
He is doing a deep dive at the end of the six nations. He says it at the end of the video!
Great video!
Thank you for that. I'm been amazed and frustrated at all the negative comments about England this week after what I thought was a very solid performance. Glad to know I'm not going mad.
Henry Slade didn't believe the bollocks, that's why every regime minion is pissed off with him.
you don't realise how good itoje is, until he isn't playing
Why then has he had such an unsuccessful international career?
@@ryanpp3696 how many six nations has he won?
@@ryanpp3696 He has over 50 England caps, has been on the last 2 Lions tours (playing in all 6 tests), has started in a world cup final, and is only 28 years old (playing a position where it isn't unusual to see internationals in their mid 30s).
How is that an unsuccessful international career?
@@willvince7777 gael fickou sai we maybe rated te best but what tinware do ww have! england noting besides runner up!
Itoje's form is going downhill. It was not a big deal in the past if he is always losing the battle vs Springbok 2nd Rows, as he was still a good player with a successful career. But recently he has not been playing well. Now, owing to media worship of him, he knows that he is undroppable and .. whatever the real reason for it is.. his form has dropped off noticeably
Been looking forward to this. 🙈
8:17 that Hitman joke had me rolling on the floor
“The flanker does a big fart that knocks him off balance”. 😅
Unfortunately probably the worst match of the weekend... Edited... Definitely the worst game of the weekend.
Yes but his English subscriber base pays the bills, so even if you didn´t see another Squidge video this round, you were absolutely going to get 20+mins on why they´re actually the best team in the competition. 🙄
Worst of the tournament for sure...
Anyone else notice the sneaky pic of Tommy Bowe at 27:22 after he says ten phases. Love it 😂
Tommy bowe joke made me laugh for a couple minutes. Thanks squidge
was looking for this comment, so good
Love you squidge
Fascinating analysis as ever, highlighting the good and bad play of both teams. Listening to Squidge you'd think that Wales won.
England and Wales providing vital services to insomniacs
Most funny comment :)
I wonder if Wales should consider doing a couple of drop goals with a defence like this. It would vary things and force the defence to rush the 10 more often. This worked well in the RWC for Wales vs Australia
"Ants and tired dogs" classic!
It was Wales they played, and they were brutal. Lets wait..#Fra #Ire Glad you are back posting.
So you're saying Maro is better nowthan in 2017 because we notice him less? I wouldn't drop him but he used to do the subtle stuff AND be a masive impact player in more obvious ways.
I think he's talking about Itoje now but I agree, far better back then
Great analysis as ever. Nice to see some balanced commentary, as opposed to the normal "England were rubbish" stuff.
Can't be only me that jumps out of my seat every time the crhssshhs noise comes in at the start of a Squidge video
Not sure about the Hawkins hit on farrell, lawrence couldn't be the extra man he's already ran too close of a line to farrell so wouldn't make a difference however if hawkins had stayed in the play possibly could've expedited the welsh recovery. Loved the kicking analysis, was dying hear your take after the game cause I couldn't make sense of it while watching and you more than delivered as usual.
Do you reckon Wayne Pivac is available?
I haven’t watched yet, but 32 minutes seems like a long time to say “because Wales aren’t very good at the moment”
Do you plan on doing Italy vs Ireland?
After watching the Ireland vs France review it feels like Italy has found a way do dismantle Ireland's defense (the pocket defense where they focus on stopping offloads rather than smashing the player) by having a player cutting the line right in the created pocket! It felt like in first half they should have scored at least twice with this tactic.
Impatient on your review!!
He's doing a deep dive on Italy at the end of the 6N. He says it at the end of this video
Analysis more entertaining than the actual game.
Great, not only still no Italy video, now I'm also worried because apparently Wales is good
Another video over 30 mins? Thank you god
Love the detailing in your analysis and work you do, just wonder where you see wales attack improving as I don't think a good defence and kicking game is enough to be competitive any more
I think his comments on Owen Williams as opposed to Biggar were telling, running any plays off 10 are always going to be rubbish if he's that easy to read. I also think Mason Grady looked like a good wide channel attacking threat, or at least he will do when he's up to international speed.
@@gwynevans6440 100% Grady looks made for this level with a few more games under his belt, still feel like we need more speed of ball from 9 & 10 personally think looking to the future is the only way for welsh rugby as its pointless having quality 12 through 15 if you never use them. Imagine what grady or zammit would do with a Fin Russell. All comes down to selection and the game plan.
Where's the analysis of Wales vs Sco - we want to know what your view was of Wales' defensive disintegration in the second half - not one of their back line knew their role and the obvious tension between Dyer and Biggar from the first half spilled over into that. The amount of defensive cover that Dyer produced from nothing was astonishing.
Leave it to Squidgey to make a boring game alot more interesting with his analysis and tongue-in-cheek humor.
I love your videos and wait weekly for your videos but why are you not putting up any about the Scotland or the Italy games?
Haha thanks for the shoutout Squidge!
Don't know where to start, really, so I'll just plough on and say, "Wow - what an amazingly insightful, perceptive and utterly absorbing analysis"!
Thank you for a nuanced and compelling 30-minutes of research and de/re/pre-construction which effortlessly side-stepped cliché, lazy stereotyping and "received wisdom". In so doing, you masterfully delivered, yet again, a "Squidge-Worthy" analysis, replete with originality, iconoclasm and insight. In other words, "Uttly triffic - Ta!
By far and away the best rugby review I've come across. IMHO England's recent performances show how much they had drifted under Eddie. Eddie who?
I hope that you're right. I really do.
think Pierre answered that question really well, no criticism of his old team
Gotta watch that WALvENG RWC 2015 game again.
28:38 Bye pencil, bye bottle.
Not sure if I look more forward to Italy - Wales or your video analysis of Italy - Wales.
Another completely unbiased review of wales rugby, when wales fix the 3 or 4 (well two hundred problems) that they have currently they will be realistic contenders
Went in to this 6 nations believing England was the most winnable game for Wales and it seems that way at the moment. I'm not sure Italy are the type of team that we will be able to drag into a torrid game that we might be able to sneak a victory out of by the end. If we do manage, I think there is a *chance* we could pull off something like last year's France game and go on to win it, but that is more of a hope than anywhere near to an expectation.
If we don't finish 6th that'll be an accomplishment. I just hope that if we do beat Italy, they don't randomly beat Scotland on the last day - for Scotland's sake and ours!!
but Scotland have already played Wales ???
I mean Italy beating Scotland on the last day, not us
Warrenball (a dumb but evocative term) is a blueprint for how to play winning rugby with average to middling player stocks. It didn´t work in his time with the Chiefs, ironically because it required the team to play beneath themselves. It´s sad in a way that even hardcore Welsh fans see it as the only way for Wales to play, as you suspect that will become a self-fulfilling prophecy and the wins will still largely elude them. It´s worth remembering that, in the years when they weren´t winning 6 Nations titles or knocking England out of their own World Cup (🤗), Wales were frequently abysmal; regularly thumped by the Southern Hemisphere teams, and typically shooting it out with Scotland for 4th or fifth place just above Italy (apart from the years when France were shit, when they could usually be confident of at least finishing third).
I think any team would rather win right now and hope to win later as well, than lose right now and hope to win later. If we can turn this around and win a match this 6N I think it would be great for our confidence and the atmosphere around Welsh rugby and I hope that would lead to better things in the future, especially with things (albeit painfully slowly) seemingly moving forward with the WRU and player contracts
Like big ollie outside of Farrell isn't warrenball??
Please talk also about italian games
I'd like to see some Italian analysis as a Scotland fan. Italy are a really exciting team now.
Lots of complaints about doing this game and not others.
Squidge I love your passion for the game and raising my rugby knowledge a billion fold.
I support you not killing yourself by overworking like you did last you.
I appreciate and love your work man keep it up.❤
To everyone complaining, saying how he's biased Vs your country, how about appreciate that this is the best rugby analysis out there and the vast majority of it is free.
If you want more, then sign up to patreon and give Squidge money. Maybe he can then hire more people to do more things.
i beg u to make a video on how to get better in each position
One day I wish to learn what squidge is thinking when it comes to the half second captions. Am I supposed to pause and rewind 18 times per video to get the full content, or is it to annoy people idk
5:30 no mention of tackling the player without the ball?
I pray that Gats is just holding back an entire new game-plan for the World Cup.
Wales always do good with a disgusting game plan in the world cup, so don't worry!!
He isn't, but this game plan will be much better in the world cup
We shall find out on the Italian game because if they cannot avenge their loss to Italy this year then they’ll learn nothing from this upcoming World Cup plus their contracts are pretty much in the wind so it’s not looking very good for some welsh players, which is a shame because as an English man I enjoy nothing more then to watch wales and England bang it out on the rugby field as strong rivals, pushing each other to the limit
He´d have been holding that one back for his entire career at this stage.
I doubt he is. It will be this gameplan, done better, with a more well prepared and confident team.
What happened to Scotland-Wales?
It's never nice when your second team beats your favourite. We should let him off with it I reckon.
he posted a tweet about why he didn't run it. Basically, he spent a ton of time on Ireland vs France, and Wales was so disappointing against Scotland he only found himself wanting to talk about Scotland. Decided instead of doing a vid on the match he'd just put those notes towards a Scotland overall video for after the tournament
@@richieclark882isn't he also doing that for Italy though ?
That's disappointing, considering it means we're missing a Scotland v France video.
His bias is now getting in the way of his quality because if Wales won or Scotland didn't sin by as much you'd bet wed get a decent analysis like we've come to expect. Not bothering just because of your feelings seems odd
Ireland France was nearly an hour long so they didn't have the time to put out something of a decent quality - they discussed it on Twitter that they've decided quality over quantity is better.
@@iteamy "nearly an hour" you mean a half hour, right ? 10 mins more than a normal squidge analysis
Recent 6 nations games covered by Squidge:
Scotland smashing Wales ❌
Italy giving Ireland a scare ❌
Chaotic France v Scotland ❌
Snooze fest Wales v England ✅
Just the game everyone wanted….. 😴
Genuinely trying to remember the last time I watched a game that dull...
27.21 why does Tommy Bowe appear in the bottom right corner of the screen here?
please do Ireland vs Italy or Scotland France ( not the most boring game of the weekend)
I mean Squidge is Welsh so naturally he's going to do the Wales game
@@bootneck4828 ik but he should do the best games that people want to watch not 2 below average teams battling out the bottom half of the table
@@bootneck4828 glaring omission of Scotland v Wales so far.........
Englands defense was so good because they were never challenged or made think. Wales endlessly sending 1 man to run at it means england will get the ball back and so they dont need to worry about risking pens, just let wales have it.
Wales created nothing, scoring 1 penalty and a try that should never have happened while farrell also missed 10 points of kicks. Could easily have been 0-30
Whatever quick ball we had Williams was absolutely butchering making phillips look like dupont. So many 4 or 5 second rucks with the ball at his feet...
Kicking constantly to the best 15 on the planet was utterly absurd with no one doing anything to change to vary or... anything. No dinks over the top, no kicks to touch, nothing.
I'm all for finding positives but the reality is we've lost 8 in a row? Are 10th in the world and facing a wooden spoon.
Warrenball was effective because it worked and won games. This is just nothing. Wales are an AI set to easy.
You KNOW they are offering 0 in attack, you KNOW they arent going to carve you up and score 3 times in 10 mins. What you have to achieve as an offense is known and easy.
As I say Im all for finding positives, but this was a simple exercise of containing and waiting by England.
Criticisng England for lacking deception and then saying what Wales are doing well in attack is super disingenuous.
Compare it to the other Twickenham game where Scotland contested everything with the determination of a Jack Russell going after a rabbit
@@iteamy exactly. This isnt warrenball this is poor. 1 up runners isnt frustrating anyone, as a defender its easy and just psyching you up for a big easy hit as you know you dont need to hedge your bets.
67-60 to England now. I remember a time when Wales were leading head to heads comfortably. I can see England pulling away a lot further this decade.
yea you wanna talk about Head to heads lol look at Ireland V Scotland currently its 68-66 in favor of Ireland
at the start of the Millennium it was 60-45 in favor of Scotland .............. but this millennium has seen us beat Scotland 23 times with only 6 losses in that same time frame
tbh idfk what happened to Scottish Rugby they went into the Millennium as Champions of the last Five Nations
since then they have collected 4 Wooden Spoons the second highest only behind Italy
i get that Scotland right now is on the up finally but how long will it last is a good question
@kurtpunchesthings2411 I know mate. That is just unbelievable how Ireland caught up. France is also closing in on Wales.
Itoje is a beast, I love him as a rguby enthusiast but I hate him as a Frenchman...
He isnt very good these days
This video did not need to end with the image of my parents arguing.
In future, I'm not going to watch any Wales games, just Squidge's post-defeat analyses. That way, I can believe we are not entirely dogshit
There is a potentially very good Welsh team somewhere - but it was not on the pitch against England.
The biggest problem is the forwards. Welsh pack was too full of passengers, of the starting 8 only Owens and Tshiunza were competitive. The bench improved things a little - Jenkins, Dillion Lewis and Reffell were clearly better than the starters.
IMO Beard, Francis and Thomas are not even close to the required standard. Beard has a tendency to go missing as soon as the game gets hard, AWJ is too old, Tips has probably been slowed due to injuries and Faletau looks a long way short of his best.
The reality is that Wales will, justifiably, be second favourite against Italy. In fact I hope Wales get thoroughly trounced so Gatland realises he needs to cut most of the old guard now
They turned up!!! I think that's how they won the match in the end. Cymru am byth!!!
I got first like because I knew this would be brilliant as standard
Still not over Slade I see? imagine basing years of jokes on something you were wrong about lol
Scottish fan here, politely requesting some coverage of the Scotland games x
He did cover Scotland v England. Mainly because I think he enjoyed it 😉
Scotland v France is the next vid
I’ll save everyone some time. Wales are currently awful
I will never not feel quietly pleased with myself for absorbing enough squidge knowledge into my bones that some of the absolute blathering the commentators come out with during games strikes me as incredibly dumb and lacking in complex knowledge of the game. Let's not begin to discuss the media post game. Never change Squidge.
One thing I noticed with the Welsh tactic of bombing it onto steward was it meant that he was often not in a position to chase back after or field the follow up kick. In much the same way that you might target the best opposition ball carrier from kick off.
But instead of any tactical depth of analysis we get JD whining
The absolute nonsense of them whinging every time Wales kicked to Steward, as if that wasn't clearly deliberate
Warren Gatland's focus is not on this years six nations. He has the unenviable task of trying to build something out of practically nothing for the forthcoming rugby world cup. Presently, he is looking at all his options, and if Wales get hammered a few times, so be it. Re-building is never easy.