Cruise French Canals by sailboat HOW? DON'T make the sailing mistakes we did in France!
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Episode 8: So many locks! How do we handle them in a sailboat? Food and water? Licenses and qualifications? What about the toilets, fuel and the big one - lock handling? This is part 2 of a 2 part "How" video.
What do you need to know before cruising the canals and rivers of France in a sailboat?
We had a thought - take a sailboat from Hull, England to the Mediterranean Sea through France, via Paris and some very small canals. Research material to prepare for this journey included websites, books, CZcams and Facebook. In all of this we found lots of information scattered across the different platforms, searching unsuccessfully for one pivot point providing a central star around which all the planets fell into reliable orbit. We had questions; we wanted answers; and greatly appreciated the experienced postings and videos presented by like minded people. But, we felt there was a gap; where were the visual experiences linked with offering answers?
I'm not sure how this video will be received, if at all, by people with a desire to take a sailboat through the inland waterways however, this is our attempt to fill the gap we thought existed. If you have more essential, relevant questions that you're not able to find an answer to from the links below, then please ask and we'll try and answer it for you. The next video will answer the remaining 6 questions of the 12 we asked.
Here are the links to the information we found useful to answer the 6 questions in this video:
VNF Main Site: www.vnf.fr/vnf/
VNF vignette: http:www.vnf.fr/vnf/achat-de-vigne...
French Waterways Main Site: www.french-waterways.com/
Competence details: www.french-waterways.com/prac...
License detail: www.french-waterways.com/prac...
Fuel, water & toilets detail: www.french-waterways.com/prac...
Lights & rules detail: www.french-waterways.com/prac...
Locks detail: www.french-waterways.com/prac...
RYA Main Site:www.rya.org.uk/
CEVNI test: www.rya.org.uk/training/cours...
Burgundy wines: www.burgundy-tourism.com/disc...
Nivernais wines: www.europeanwaterways.com/blo...
CZcams Music:
Blue Danube: Strauss
Can-Can: Offenbach
Thank you to all those people who helped us along on our dream journey - you know who you are and we are eternally grateful. The journey continues . . . - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Another site, (I can't remember which) made a great suggestion about number 2s. Place a bin liner inside your toilet bowl, with an absorbent gel pad inside. When you need No2, just do it, bag it and dump it. This may sound a bit yuk, but Mums dispose of nappies in the bin all the time so what's the difference. We tried it while in the Marina and did find that you need to put something like a towel or cloth under the plastic bag first otherwise the bag can split, it worked fine after that, fitting a holding tank is fine if you have the space but we dont so the do it, bag it, dump it method works fine for us.
Hi Mike, there’s always the possibility that the holding tank may be full and so alternative measures must be taken. We have had to improvise similarly - pump out stations are rare in some regions.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Safe cruising
JnS
Thanks for this two part series, it is the most thorough and well presented treatment on the details of canal boating I’ve seen, besides having such an attractive yacht to watch is not hard to take. All the best.
Thank you for watching our videos and for your very kind comment. Enjoy cruising and stay safe.
JnS
Brilliant vlog so professionally edited and very informative. We are building a widebeam canal boat with launch ETA of May 2025 and after a season in the UK intend to take her to France and spend a few seasons there. So now I’m looking forward to sitting back and watching a few more of your videos and becoming more knowledgeable. Cheers from downunder.
Thanks for your positive feedback Graham. I really appreciate that. You have a very exciting project with the boat build, and we wish you every success in your desire to boat through the canals of France. I’m intrigued to know if you are building the boat in Oz or in France. Best wishes.JnSxx
Ps. The smaller canals have narrow locks and can be very shallow - especially during and after summer.
@@sailingoptions sorry should have said we are having the boat built in the UK by Bluewater Boats. Have had the most enjoyable afternoon watching about a dozen of your videos - have laughed out loud at some of your “adventures” and also recognised those times when you were challenged. keep in touch, cheers Swanny PS where are you now?
@@GrahamSwan-yi5gw those Bluewater wide beams are stunning and we met people on the rivers and canals who invited us aboard to stay - very different to our life living on the tilt! Right now we’re in Montenegro, heading today for Tivat area. I should think you’ll be biting at the bit to get your new floating home on the water. I hope you enjoy the UK canals especially the centrals. The channel crossing will be “interesting” ! Have you read “Narrow dog to Carcassonne”?
@@sailingoptions will read the narrow dog - sounds intriguing - I have sailed extensively around Croatia & Montenegro - enjoy - keep in touch.
Thank you!
Thanks so much. Very imfomative
Thanks for watching and commenting Iain. I hope our other episodes on the channel prove at least entertaining if not a little bit helpful 😀
I have cruised in my 33 ft princess extensively in France, Belgium and the Netherlands. I have grey and blackwater tanks. I have never used and rarely have seen a pumpout. In harbours and marinas, I usually use holding tanks and pump out as I go along canal or river as far as I know this is the practice. I have had 2 very thorough inspections both in Belgium all sorts of things were on the inspectors checklist but not holding tanks or anything to do with them. I would not go without them just the same.
Thanks for commenting Andrew, we found the pump out choices lacking which is concerning for the water quality. Holding tank use is the responsible way.
Stay safe
JnS
You are completely right. I've seen adults swimming in crowded inland marinas. Thank you for replying. I have only just come on Sailing Options and look forward to watching all the episodes.
Great job , Well done
Thank you for your kind comment Andrew. JnS
excellent video - very informative.
Thank you Patrick - we'll see you on the canals!
Fantastic videos I found your channel yesterday and I’m working my through them absolutely loving them many thanks 🙏 Steve
Hi Steve, thanks for watching, subscribing and liking - feedback and sharing is always welcome.
Stay safe
JnS
Excellent video guys! thank you!
Thank you for watching and liking our video! Stay safe and enjoy cruising!
Excellent video. Very well done and informative...I learned a lot. May I ask what the depths were? Or more specifically, how accurate are the reported depths on VPN?
Hi Craig S, thanks for watching and for your positive comments too. The depths vary in different canals, so choose your route to suit your boat, also the depth for a canal may vary through the season, which is why VNF publish a "maximum authorised draft". Check out Episode 7 for some more explanation: czcams.com/video/f9M9KVIivn0/video.html
Cheers, stay safe
JnS
Thanks for prompt reply J&S is the stepped mast factory fitted or is optional.was the spreaders able to take the weight of that chap sitting on them ? look forward to watching your videos from the beginning
The mast on our 1994 model is the original from Northshore. There’s a compression post taking the thrust through to the keel grounding plate. The mast is very robust to take the forces exerted by a gale - which I haven’t tested yet 😀 but we’ve sailed in F7 well reefed down.
Hi, appreciate the information. I have a small (6.9m) boat im bringing from Southampton and are looking for a boatyard in Dunkirk or closeby to do some final prep before setting off, can you recommend one you saw or used there? - thanks
Hi Jules, thanks for watching the video and I’m glad it helped in a small way. The boatyard we used was Bleu Marine near the Yacht Club de la Mer Nord. The details for it are in episode 9: “Demast”, also we include the web links in the description. Hope that helps. Be safe and enjoy cruising!
Here’s the link Jules: czcams.com/video/vGZnPt6ly_k/video.html
Fantasic video just started watching. Very informative I've learned a lot. May I ask what was the book you was using with the charts in, entering Paris. Stay safe and keep going?
Hello Arthur, Thank you for watching and your comments. The chart book we used is published by Fluviacarte, but these are becoming increasingly difficult to find. We cover the route planning and chart choices in Part 1 of the 2 part video, check it out on our channel and I hope that helps you.
Stay safe.
JnS
HI Just discovered your Channel and already learned so much I noticed you have a Southerly 115 which just happens to be the boat I am currently saving up for, with the intention of open water sailing and river cruising I noticed your mast has been removed was this detached and sent ahead ready to install again at the end of rivers.forgive my ignorance but what type of mast would be suitable for this type of venture.
Kind regards Ian
Thanks for watching and commenting Ian. The S115 is a great boat. The mast is stepped to the deck on a shoe and lifts away by crane after derigging. We stored the mast in Dunkerque for transport to our destination by lorry. Alternatively you can take it with you on the deck supported on A frames. We really hope your dream is realised. Fair winds.
JnS
Fantastic video, can you tell me how long it can take to get from the Gironde to the Mediterranean? Thanks.
Thanks for watching and I hope you liked and subscribed to our channel Wendy. How long these canal journeys take depends on how quick you want to do it: slow or fast? The inland section starts at Lormont and finishes at Grau d'Agde. According to Fluviacap that's 90 hours minimum for 122 locks over a distance of 500km. Take a look at this website: www.fluviacarte.com/en/fluviacap which allows you to input your boat details too.
Best wishes, stay safe and enjoy cruising.
JnS
@@sailingoptionsThanks, that's v good info x
You have any chart oversight of rest of european waterways??
I don't, but I found this on a quick web search: unece.org/DAM/trans/main/sc3/AGN_map_2018.pdf
Thanks for watching and I hope you find what you need.