[4.7] What Nilou Can Tell Us About Natlan - Genshin Impact v4.8+5.0 Speculations
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- Remember when I used to stream? Me neither. Anyway, here's what I would have said on stream - if I streamed - but in a more coherent format, about the upcoming summer event patch and the brand new region of Natlan!
No timestamps, spoiler warnings, or citations this time. This is pure, unfiltered theorizing just like a stream. But without the streaming.
I should stream. - Hry
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@@bradleydarling6084especially after wuwa, and since kuro is invested by tencent and this kind bots is one of the most common tencent tactic...
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Something that I'd also like to add is that in the Sumeru Rainforest when you clear a Withering Zone a rainbow effect emmanates and revitalizes the affected area. Sadly it's locked behind the Graphics settings, but it's an amazing detail that truly shows how Light itself is Elemental Energy and thus, life.
Kinda like how Apep domain boss uses dna as weapons. DNA is literally the code and machinery of life
@@viedralavinova8266 Yup! I loved Apep's fight so much (or rather, Apep's immunity system's fight).
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Like in fontaine, were the dead dragon lies, there are still its immune cells wich attack you.
@@KyzenEXmy favourite part is the boss theme but it's still a great fight
@@atriyakoller136 My favorite boss theme are the Balladeer's and the Narwhal's in that order lol. Haven't listened to Apep's, gonna give it a try now ^^
something that made me mad were people saying that Natlan should be desolate and colorless just because it is the nation of war. Like hello? snezhnaya 'land of love' doesnt look so loving does it? and Inazuma 'land of eternity' isnt stuck in a stasis bubble. the entire point of the ideals of the gods is to put them in question and play with your expectations.
I know right?
Mondstadt(freedom): "What is freedom? Are you free if your god tells you to be free?"
Inazuma(eternity): "What is eternity? Is it just perpetual stasis or is it acknowledging that the world is ever-chanigng and embracing every transient moment?"
Sumeru(wisdom): "What is wisdom? Is it just having access to a lot of information or is it the mental aptitude to make your way through the challenges of life?"
Fontaine(justice): "What is justice? Is it just judging and punishing criminals or is it about finding doing the right thing?"
So OBVIOUSLY Natlan is going to bring the idea of war into scrutiny.
Exactly! And it would be so boring if all regions were just direct reflections of their archon's ideology.
I mean, look at Mondstadt, there were even memes about it. It's the nation of freedom, but it's the only nation in which the main city is closed off by walls.
Same with Sumeru, the land of dendro, you'd think most of it is rainforests, but really it's just the dessert (I mean alright, Sumeru is based off of some arabic countries and those are mostly dessert filled so it kind of makes sense, but still)
ikr. also from art perspective tbh i don't like desaturated colors so much. it just... less eye-catching when everything is grayish..... bringing colors to wars concept really intrigues me
The example of the Hawaiian Islands alone is an indication that the most fertile and green lands on earth are gathered around volcanoes. The similarity between war and a volcano is that as long as the volcano does not erupt, there is abundance and abundance around it. When a volcano erupts, it brings destruction and death around, like war.
There is something that people who love this game are wrong about. They say the opposite of eternity is freedom, but the real opposite is war. Because while eternity is static, war is dynamic. War war destroys empires and the existing order and brings a new one. When you look at history, you see that the biggest changes took place after wars. If the civil war had not occurred, inazuma would have remained in eternal stasis.
Aboriginal Australian here, the dream time stories that have stuck out the most to me throughout my life do tend to include sleeping creatures and colours
I’m not an Aboriginal Australian, but I relate as an ancestor of European settlers. I’m so happy genshin is making ties to the ancient aboriginal culture and it’s African routes. I feel like Aboriginal culture is so under consumed to the rest of the world, some people don’t even know how ancient it is! Its a culture that’s so reflective of what the first human settlements where like in Africa. Sorry for the rant I’m just super exited!
not everyone comes from Africa. There are aboriginals from America. Their ancestors never left. There is a channel called Dane Calloway super interesting.
@@mikan_celestespecially South America we have lots of native culture
@@grande6670 australian aboriginal cultures have nothing to do with african cultures, what are you talking about? indigenous cultures here have also existed longer than than any current african cultures alive today. i don't understand why you are making multiple comments linking two totally different and massive groups of nations, tribes and cultures. edit: and indigenous cultures here can stand on their own two feet without trying to claim merit by being "similar" to african cultures. (whatever that means)
@@mahoulo612 it's okay we're all learning and unlearning every day. Though I understand your frustration.
The rainbow serpent could references both aurstalian myth AND Quetzalcoatl/Kukulkan from the Aztecs and Mayans at the same time. Bc Quetzalcoatl was also a colorful flying serpent. And also possibly a dragon. Quetzalcoatl’s world in Aztec mythology had Quetz become the SUN during one of the cycles of creation/destruction. And the sun is the source of all light and life on earth. That includes in aztec myth, where the current sun was in charge of personally creating the “humans” of each cycle. So they could be going with a “Nibelung created life, the primoridal one just co-opted it and then said it was his own creation” type story here.
Since Aztec culture was also cyclical, and Quetzalcoatl stopped being the sun after his cycle ended, it’s possible Nibelung also belongs to a similar cycle, being basically the dragon “Avatar” who has access to all the elements and respawns in another color when the current incarnation dies. Would Hoyo reference Avatar The Last Airbender? Yeah they would. They love references.
Also, Seelies bare some resemblance to Quetzals, colourful birds which are associated with Quetzalcoatl.
Out of topic but when you talking about Quetzalcoatl, I dont know why remind me of Quetzalcoatl from FGO because last month after watching FGO Babylonia anime, somehow my head canon think about Natlan is gonna be like Uruk in FGO Babylonia
exactly
If coatls are considered a branch of dragons then Quetzalcoatl is atleast a dragon-like deity :3
Ilu Aussie
The traveller also glows! Their ornament at least not any sort of tattoo
Archon characters also glows! Their hair atleast not any sort of tattoo
My theory for Natlan is that War has ended a long time ago and they're "continuing" it in form of... Sports. Healthy competition. So it is still a war in a way, but its just the Olympics (not the 1936 Olympics).
I say this mostly based on the character designs and their movement skill(?).
The hat on the rat looking geo girl, the beach tanned surfer hydro girl, the street wear of the Dendro guy... it all look like modern sports wear to me.
Maybe some character will try to restore the old ways of Natlan and bring back war and that will be the villain for this arc.
Hey thats a good idea! Hadnt thought of that before but that would be a cool story
I am SO HERE for the natlan story quests to just turn into a sports anime man I’ll be SO HAPPY
It would also explain why its a toursim booming place, we literally have multiple references say it's a good holiday location
I think you were spot on, based on last trailer, and the fact that is a ball game, it really resonate with aztec and mayan cultures where they played a ball game where the loser team was sacrificed to the gods, specially Huitzilo pochtli (god of war) and it was for this cultures a way to represent war without fighting
This probably doesn't lead anywhere but "colorful markings that light up when using/borrowing elemental powers" also specifically remind me of the Traveler and the parts of their clothes that light up in the color of the element they're currently using and white (light) when they have their original power
As an Aussie, I’d be super excited to get some representation in an area that isn’t entirely desert scrub or savanna. Australia has so many different biomes (rainforests up north, alpine tundra to the east, forests all about the edges, ect) but the stereotype is dessert so that’s all we get in media
man a dessert area sounds so sweet! XD
@@katherineclawson3494 don't forget spiders
It would be cool to seem some Aussie inspiration, honestly that opening song from the trailer reminds me so much of a didgeridoo. Though, to be fair I don't know the instruments of other cultures so it could be something completely different.
@@katherineclawson3494 are you native Australian 😃
@@samii____ I haven’t actually heard that term in use but I’m going to assume you mean aboriginal.
So no, but both sides of my family have been Australians for over 2 centuries
SO excited for Natlan!! i’m hoping we’ll get a “Final Feast” equivalent trailer for the region soon so we can not only see more characters but also get some more clues as to what the upcoming story will be like!
also i love how the livestream revealed a portion of the Natlan map lol this region is gonna be HUGE i just know it and i cannot wait to explore all of it 🙌
I know a lot of people did not like the size of Sumeru but honestly it’s my favorite region and one reason being because it’s so big. If we get a big map I’ll be super excited and happy😀
@@VeronaRoma7546 yeah i can totally see how a huge map could be overwhelming for some players and that’s valid! but i’m with you dude i love exploring new areas so i will be super happy if Natlan ends up being massive lol
true i hope so before 5.0 atleast we get a reveal of all character being present in natlan aq with capitano dropping pleasee.....
ALLEGEDLY..Natlan's "Overture teaser" is coming THIS FRIDAY.
@@chickennugget9395 ohh really? that’s exciting!!
You should look up flower wars. They were an Aztec ritual war, might be something similar in Natlan
Natlan will 100% have something to do with the flower wars. Huitzilopochtli, the god who the wars were dedicated to, was literally the god of fire and war. He uses a serpent/dragon as a weapon, is closely associated with serpents, and war and sacrifices were given to him so that he could protect the world from being destroyed.
Interestingly, he does this to chase away his siblings, the stars, who want to destroy the world.
Waiting for the deshret part
Ashikai, blink twice if you're in danger.
Prism = splitting light, while Deshret used Primal energy, assumed to be all light colors merged that could take on any element property.
Deshret may have tried to replicate or reverse Nibelung powers for his technology.
Cannot escape Deshret.
@@nthinparticular3345and thats why hes obssessed with pyramids/prisms, cuz they split light /s
5:32 aussie here! it does sound like a digeridoo, i haven't seen many people talk about this so its nice to know that i'm not going insane. it's at the very beginning of the teaser if anybody wants to go look at it for themselves!
When I heard Dainsleif saying “there are those who dream of dreaming”, this immediately reminded me of the term form Indigenous Peoples in Australia. I am glad that happened, since Australia has one of the earliest civilisations in human history (roughly 45,000 -70,000 years ago)
I’m quite surprised no one has brought up the Mare Jivari, both in the video and in the comments. The Mare Jivari is a region presumably located in Natlan that is completely covered in ash. A piece of land where the winds don’t reach. A patch of land completely covered in ash could very quickly resemble a colourless space no? What if the Mare Jivari became the Mare Jivari because there was once a 7th tribe in Natlan that completely lost their connection to their dragon/saurian thereby leaving their patch of land burnt, dead, colourless and devoid of wind? When I saw those patches of no colour in Sumeru, I immediately thought of the Mare Jivari, so hearing all this talk about colour immediately made me think of that, but hey. That’s just my theory, A GAME… no, it’s too soon Mat :(
THIS! Also, we are almost to the end of the game and to hasn't been brought up basically at all.
Ooh, that's a great theory! I wonder if the Mare Jivari could have been the Murata tribe's area, and losing its color related to the expulsion of the tribe? But I have no idea if the timeline would work for that.
Mare Jivari is a special part you see...and with genshin trends , when there is something special , they save it for the best time , so they don't reveal everything at start
the way i giggled with matpat reference HAHBSNANSNJSBSSBS anyway this was such a wonderful insight to add! i almost forgot about mare jivari
The fact that the entire theme of this summer event is basically toys REALLY make me think of a conversation I had some time ago about how they are going to subvert war.... and it was brought up that in Mesoamerica historically there are a lot of games like Patolli, Bul, and Totoloque and a strong emphasis on sports like Tlachtli.... perhaps games and athletics are the "ritual" or "substitute" war that is taking place? playing games instead of fighting a wars seems like a reasonable subversion of war....
from a literal standpoint ofc, there still needs to be an abstract point like you were pointing out in the vid like fighting to stay with their Saurian partners.
Because of this I looked again at the character designs and I feel like they're all vaguely sporty too, like the hydro girl surfing, the little one wearing a visor with a tied back ponytail and doing some sort of gymnastic flip into the lineup at the end, and both the little girl and the guy are wearing their outerwear shucked off and tucked at the waist like people do at pickup sports games.
I dunno, I just think it's an interesting thing to think about.
BTW Patolli on it's own is quite interesting because it is tied to an Aztec god of games Xōchipilli and involves numbers related to the Aztec view of the universe.
I think so too. There are also anime that have this kind of theme such as No Game No Life, Dog Days, and Hikikomari (I'm not recommending them, just pointing out existing examples).
Every available region is influenced by the Archon ideal, so I'm interested in how "war" influences Natlan's people. After all, there's no way the region took "war" literally and still function properly and peacefully.
If it is indeed competition between factions, tribes, or people, then I really look forward to a possible mini-game that we can get in Natlan. Also Itto's event too, because it would be criminal not to have him visit a "game" country.
Im EXTREMELY hyped for natlan. I just love that no one has much info. The leakers never got any info that is tangible to spoil whats ahead and i think we shall soon see some sort of special trailer for natlan revealing ALL the characters and the harbingers in the region. Fingers crossed columbina is one of the characters.
Dragons and the relationship with them will def be the main theme. I agree with that
According to the Fatui harbinger wheel (starting from Childe and going counterclockwise), Columbina’s constellation is next and so far we’ve fought all the Harbingers in that order. It’s likely she’ll show up at some point.
I'm hopeful but tbh Fontaine and Schensynya (however u spell it) are my two main hopes
@@wheattins9250I also noticed that the name of Columbina has a similar end name to the other girl who was shown in the trailer. I guess it makes sense now that Columbina will be in natlan.
The highlights on the characters I didn’t even notice! I definitely will be paying attention for color themes from now on
Honestly I want to see how all that would play out. Like maybe the Pyro Dragon Sovereign is bitter sort of like Apep and feels as though humans dont deserve to live in community with saurians.
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If Australia is included that explains why the start of the music in the trailer remined me of the didgeridoo
5:21 There is a questionable amount of direct ties to Australia within both trailers that it seems pretty much confirmed to be true. In the first trailer you have animals that seem all to visually symbolic to Kangaroo's/Marsupials, Wombats, Komodo Dragons/Platypus and the overall landscape itself with its red earth. In the second trailer the graffiti, especially the colours and design of the shark that one water girl rode, seemed directly inspired by Aboriginal paintings. There was also the giant trees that seemed oddly identical (Albeit giant) to eucalyptus trees when the dendro guy jumped/gilded through the trees.
Honestly I don't think there are any Australian content creators or a big enough voice to point out this stuff without being silince by the sheer number of voices, but hey might as well try.
P.S. There is also symbology tying the Four Horsemen in Genshin somewhat if you work backwards with Nahida as Death, Neuvillette as the third, and highly likely someone from the nation of war representing War. $100 dolleray do's on the Tsaritsa being the 'White horse' so to speak.
As an Australian, I have also seen some similarities and do reckon Natlan has taken a few inspirations from Aboriginal culture and Australian flora and fauna, but I'm still not stepping my foot into that side of the argument until we have more concrete evidence, even if I did speculate Australia having some potential inspiration ideas for Natlan. Things can go either way as we did expect Fontaine to be based off of France, but we also go UK themes (Wriothesley being the obvious example) and even a sprinkle of Italy being the main theme of Remuria.
it will be mixed i think at least the geo region of natlan will be inspired cuz it looked heavily like australia aborginal one and then the water area gave me the vibes of hawaii and the dendro area gave me the vibes of mayan culture so.. pyro region will be based on aztecs and the other 2 supposed region in natlan will be based from the tribal culture from diff. culutres respectively i am excited to visit the hawaii of natlan it looks so fun
I noticed the boab trees! They're only seen in a few parts around the world and Australia is one of them.
@@starlight14673there's more likely Aztec, aboriginal Australia and yoruba (African)
@@LuddyFish_ I have a suspicion that it will be like Sumeru, and we'll get a more mesoamerican styled area similar to the desert. Hopefully that means we'll get a lot of variety between each of the clans, kind of like the jungle people and the eremites.
I think Genshin's Nation of War will be like metaphors of Volcano and Ashes.
Wars will always destroy a lot of things, but in the end the ashes does give chance of a "restart" or perhaps "rebirth". Just as ashes nourish the plants after an eruption.
It's a deep theme to get into.
In parallel example, it could be like how the World Wars we had reformed many orders and societies in the world, even though there are still hurting nations or societies from that war, it does give us a glimpse of peace to work towards betterment. It's a deep and nuanced topic but I also can't agree if war is always something bad, it is always attached to the relevant topic of the time, and its a term that shouldn't be used in isolation seriously.
reminds me of the cycles that that fontainian whose name I can’t ever remember theorized about and how they apparently correlate to all of the big fights in teyvat’s history
I think you are right, at least to some extent. The chapter name in the Travail trailer is “Ode to Resurrection”, so I can definitely see an idea of rebirth, especially with something like a “reborn archon”
@@dreemurrinthenight Rene de Petrichor was his name
Yes, in fact volcanic soil is one of the most fertile ones.
true and we might like always help them
I think becouse Nilous clothes represent the godess of flowers, but she changes them in the event, maybe she will represent some other godess in Natlan, that may have the same powers (restoring, healing).
OMG! Your comment made me remember about the mexica goddess Xochiquetzalli, related to fertility, art, beauty and nature, like Nabu Malikata.
I have a theory that in natlan we'll see a Pyro archon ascend. Why? Well we've almost seen the entire life span of an archon
The beginning: Nahida
The middle (in order): Ei and Venti
The end: Zhongli and Furina
EDIT: Not only that but what Dains said in the chapter preview
New Zealand is the one in the Ring of Fire, not Australia 😅 Which is why I've been pretty amused when people have been "why isn't Natlan grim?" New Zealand is one of the prettiest, greenest places in the world and there's volcanoes EVERYWHERE. Our biggest city has something like over 100 dormant volcanoes in it. Our bush is pretty jungle like but we don't have red desert areas. Now that's Australia right there. That said, the Tongariro National Park in New Zealand is such a weird looking place. It's where the main big volcanoes are in the centre of the island and it's beautiful. The big volcanoes are still active from time to time. Volcanic does not equal Elden Rings grim.
Rant aside, I did note the didgeridoo and thought of Australia too. Some of the graffiti felt a bit like Aboriginal art. So I'm interested to see what Hoyoverse interprets of this area of the world...although the fact that they got New Zealand and Australia mixed up is funny. I didn't think they knew we existed because there's no server for Australia and there really should be, my ping is awful, we don't get merch and there's never any "global" events down this far south 😭 At least Australia gets a nod for Natlan. It'd be nice to see some New Zealand rep but I think most people in the Northern hemisphere think New Zealand and Australia are the same country 😅
true NZ IS IN ROF but hoy loves to mishap and add diff. regions so they might add it and nz maui ppl could also be there?
Agreed with the beautiful landscapes of New Zealand.
Also, Australia used to have lots of active volcanos eons ago. (that went extinct eventually).
yea it would be nice if they remembered we exist, their online amazon store doesn't even ship here so there's next to nothing you can do except go through expensive 3rd parties
@@happybanana5652 It is lovely, isn't it? The National Park always amazes me with how pretty it is
Peter Jackson knew, why he created his Lord of the Rings in New Zealand :) It is one of the countries on my bucket list :)
The super bright before the darkness
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NO KING DESHRET ? WE WON!
Ashikai, I think that you’re onto something with the Australian references. As an Australian myself and having knowledge on this topic, I know that colours within aboriginal Australian history are directly linked with ‘heritage’ or a link to the land of some sort, and just as you had said, there could be links of Saurians as said heritage. Within the history of Australia as well, there was a form of ‘war’ with the aboriginals and the English people that had landed on Australia. War of two different ‘tribes’, where in the end, the aboriginals were oppressed and stolen from their families. Now I could go on a tangent, but aboriginal Australians used a ton of colour symbolism in the Dreamtime stories - such as the rainbow snake, for example. And even colours are like the connection of the world to aboriginals. I’m not aboriginal myself, so I don’t have much to really add, but these Australian references could tie into your speculation of Natlan. And when the patch releases, these speculations could have more substance.
Aside from my rambling, I loved the video, and I hope that you’re doing a wonderful day!!
genshin with it's obsession with lights and wuwa with it's obsession with sound. Why do I sense a theme here 🤔
What occupies me, is reason of why Ntlanians are so unenthusiastic about leaving their plains, and if, this have any connection with Natlan soils. According to Aztec creation myth, land was created out of Alligator-like creature (read as dragon) Cipactli via hands of Quetzalcoatl and Tezcalipoca(gods). To be fair, this is a common theme in many creations myths, but in regards of Natlan and its dragon connection, it might be actually relevant. Plus, not like we never had a land being made out of ancient remains before (Watatsumi).Locals of 5.0, might be physically or psychologically tied with their land, , or alike Azhdaha, absorbing energy from thous "dragon fossils". Thus unable or simple don't wanting to leave. This could also have a gameplay effect, similar to Fontain Arke system.Maybe new characters Saurian related power would be available only there.
And on the subject of Fountain, Egiria might have been not the only one who attempted to create a human -like form. What if current Tribes are descendants of human-dragon marriage. I also wonder, if Natlanians half dragon origin could be a reason for their Saurians ties and non vision elemental powers.
Australian here: Yurlungur is just one of at least dozens of names for the Rainbow Serpent (there are a lot of Australian Aboriginal dialects because there are a lot of First Nations). So the Rainbow Serpent or Rainbow Snake are probably better names unless you plan to acknowledge the specific NT peoples that use Yurlungur.
But thank you for including Australian Aboriginal content in the video. 🖤💛♥️
Something worth mentioning about the lack of glowing markings on the other archons, all the archons have glowing hair during their ult. Very interesting theory, I will keep this in mind when the event and eventually new AQ come
Love the speculation videos
The culture purists are going to fume about this but I LOVE the idea of a Nation of War being inspired by cultures around the Ring of Fire. Such a thematically satisfying connection to draw.
"fume"... Nice one
I mean with the fact it's the ring of FIRE I'm inclined to think it's like 80% likely atp
Very smart remark, the Ring of Fire irl is probably the inspiration for Natlan.
That leaves the question about the African inspired names we have seen thus far (Iansan), but American countries have influence from Africa so it's justifiable.
It's not about cultural purity, it's about mashing together cultures that have nothing in common. It is very easy to appear ignorant to the nuances of each culture when doing that.
@@idkatthispoint-s9s like the ring of fire is a super cool concept for a fantasy nation but why would they include these beats from specific real-world cultures with no intention to represent their people idk
New Witch and the Undying Flame book mentions Witches originated from or most notably do their rituals in “Most Western part of the Magical Place” which is Natlan so we’re going to meet them for sure.
Didn’t the hexenzircle put their stories in fairytales as way to prevent the stories from being eliminated?
like backup storage?
it's speculated they did after the reveal of how nahida subverted Iruminsul's erasure, but wasn't explicitly stated anywhere.
Natlan is way different than I expected given the lore. I went into both Sumeru and Fontaine with low expectations but they turned out great. So I am sure Hoyo will still deliver. Looking forward to rolling surfer girl XD.
Was watching lore videos while making my thesis presentation and ofc a new video had to drop midway through XD thanks for the good grub
raiden *does* have glowing tattoos, i think. It's not very noticeable, but behind her neck, the mark glows purple, i saw someone compare that mark to the mark behind scara's neck :]
As someone from Australia, the Wagyl/Waakle (Rainbow serpent) in culture is a sacred first nations people deity and is different based on which mob you belong. Rainbow serpent has the role of giver of life, and in the dreaming it provides fertility spirits through the waters, but its more than that. The dreamtime shaped the physical, moral and spiritual world and continues to renew and sustain itself, the wagyl created the shape of the boodjar (land) and foundation for the meaning of life, giving sustinence so humans can in turn become stewards for the land, but it destructively brutal to those who break the laws. As such each mob has totems making each responsible for that animal. It is the ultimate universal creator, it's movement shaping the land. This isn't mythology, the dreaming is an active belief system in first nations culture.
Side note. The animals losing their color is a big one in the dreaming too. How the birds got their color is a big Koori dreaming story, I remember hearing from one of the elders that ravens are black because they were selfish when the color rained on the birds
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5:29 yeah, when I heard the didgiridoo I had to do a double take; it could be that Natlan is just based on numerous Indigenous cultures. That or hoyoverse is playing shenanigans again like they did with Sumeru's inspiration
Thank you for another great video!
About the rainbow serpent, there is a deity from the West coast of Africa (that is also present in Brazil, brazilian here btw) called Oxumaré/Osumare that carries both of this symbols, he also have the capacity to transform into a snake and between genders (according to some traditions), fitting the transformation and ressurection theme of Natlan. You can find him both as an Orisa or a Vodum.
Hope it helps
A video about one of my fav characters in Genshin!! I'm so excited to see what's in store for us in this summer event and in the future, Natlan!! ☀️💗
Talking about borrowing energy changing someone's marks colour the traveler has actually been doing this since 1.0!
Whenever the traveler resonates with an element they change the colour of some parts of their outfit
OMG EARLY, ANW PLS MAKE A VIDEO ABT THE LORE IMAGINARIUM THEATER DROPPED
she will lol she loves the hexenzen
IF Benny becomes related somewhat to this nation, I will be so happy
Hi ashikai just here to say I appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos, and for keeping us well fed and up to date!
Wow the aura and markings, I totally did not notice them and I rewatched the trailer several times!
5:15 thats one delicious looking gummy worm
Or maybe im just hungry
You are unhinged and yet entirely make me appreciate Genshin's attention to detail. Thank you so much!
Natlan has been leaning more towards Aztec mythology so I wouldn't be surprised if the serpent is actually the god Quertzacoatl/Kukulkan who is portrayed as a colorful serpent too.
I remember very vividly that there is a rainbow serpent tale in Colombia/Northern Brazil/Guianas which his skin was used to give colors to all the birds (except the diving one that only got black scales).
I recall very little of it, but there was a rainbow serpent in a river, the only anomaly was it had a black head. The humans and birds teamed up to kill the beast because he was a tyrant, and after the killing shot (being dealt by a diving bird) they divided the scales among the birds, and that's why they are colorful, except the diving bird, which only got to have the black scales in the head of the Serpent.
Edit: added the legend.
Aussie here! I love your takes in this video and hoping so hard that we get some Aussie/Indigenous representation in this region. We are starved. Dreamtime folklore would make such amazing inspirations for Natlan, and tie into the connection-to-country vibes that the trailer gave.
Always on the grind!
Have you heard of the story of Popocatépetl and Iztaccíhuatl? It's an Aztec version of Romeo and Juliet, where Popo went off to win Izta's hand via battle, a jealous guy told Izta that Popo died, she pulled a Padmé and died of sadness (becoming the dormant volcano Iztaccíhuatl), and Popo returned (then turned into the semi-active volcano Popocatépetl in one of various ways). Nahuatl is the dominant dialect of Aztec that survives today, and it's where the "tl" in "Natlan" comes from. I have a theory that at least the Dendro and Hydro characters in the trailer are nods to Popo and Izta, like Nilou is for Nabu Malikata and Cyno is for Deshret/Hermanubis. "Popocatépetl" means "burning or smoking mountain," and "Iztaccíhuatl" means "white woman." The Geo character might be a distant reference to the jealous person who "drilled a hole" or "drove a wedge" in the real-world Aztec legend.
I only spent a brief time in Mexico and this is one of the top stories I learned about Aztec culture. Besides that their capitol city was built on top of a lake for eagle-eating-a-snake reasons, resulting -- here's the important part -- in the capital being surrounded with floating flower gardens (Izta looks like Nilou?). The Nahuatl people are one of (if not the) largest surviving Native American population today because they conquered the people around them empire-style (with blood sacrifices added), and when the Spaniards showed up, they saw who was gonna win and said "Sweet! We're gonna team up with you guys." Disease then did its own thing on their numbers, but it's interesting history.
Well, that's enough of a ramble. Just trying to put in a hint that these stories may be very worth looking into. 😁 Tenochtitlan and the Temples of the Sun and Moon in the Aztec empire might also come up. It's cool stuff I wanna learn more about, and I can totally see Genshin using it. 😜
Have fun and keep being awesome!
To learn to make the "tl" sound:
1) Pinch the tip of your tongue between your front teeth, so that you can't move it.
2) Make a "t" sound. Because you can't move the front of your tongue, the sound should come from the sides and back of your tongue hitting your teeth, where the "l" sound usually happens. It almost sounds like a "k." But it is a "t" with the "l" parts of your tongue.
3) Once you have that muscle movement down, stop biting the tip of your tongue. That was just a teaching technique. Make the "tl" sound with the sides at the back of your tongue normally.
😁👌 Languages are fun! Everything else in modern Nahuatl is basically the same as Mexican Spanish. The "tl" sound is the only one unique enough to truly stick around.
Holy BotGPT, Batman!
No one cares bot 🗿
The pyramids you are saying are not Aztec/Mexica they are Teotihuacan, a culture far earlier than the Mexica and who was even more powerful and had ties with the other mesoamerican nations of that time. The Mexicas did not allied to the spaniards, the ones who did so were the Tlaxcaltecas and after the fall of Tenochtitlán the other subjugated groups joined them.
@@montse3139 🤩 Cool! I did enough superficial research to get a vague idea, but I did indeed bring this up so I could learn more.
Honestly can't wait to see a new video on the Hexenzirkel because Imaginarium Theater revealed quite a bit about them. There's also mention of one of them being the "first mayor" of Shneznaya and I assume that's Ivanovna.
Very much looking forward to the Bennett theory, there's a lot of evidence for him having some kind of connection to the Pyro Archon or Pyro Gnosis, there's even in-game lore suggesting he was found in the Mare Javari-in Natlan-by the adventurer who brought him back to Mondstat
I’m so excited for Natlan, I can’t wait for all the lore.
I think the “borrowing power from dragons” guess is pretty accurate, cuz if you look at the gameplay shown for Natlan so far, we’ve seen a Geo Saurian who can climb walls easily, a Hydro Saurian who can swim over liquids, and a Dendro Saurian who can do the grappling hook thing we could do in Sumeru.
And the three characters we were shown are a Geo child who can climb walls easily, a Hydro girl who can rode a shark plush looking thing over water, and a dendro character who imitates the grappling hook mechanic.
Started watching you channel just before your "purple isn't a real colour" theory (I can't remember the actual title) and now to see those ideas kinda coming back into play is really nice
Amazing as always ash!
So after the trailer i got curious and decided to check nilous info and it just so happens to talk about her dancing on a lake like a fairy which was how she got her vision
Speaking of... potential Seelies, Columbina is most likely appearing in Natlan, because where else is she going to be? And with the feathers in her her, she looks like an Axolotl! Just an interesting design detail.
She's also next on the wheel after Arlecchino. 😏
Great video as always! Just wanned to point out that Vourukasha's Glow ( TCG Card) a more reliable portrayal of Nabu Malicata. Since outfit looks incredibly similar to Nilou's (just without horns). Flower of Paradise Lost most likely belonged to the priest of Nabu Malicata, judging by the description of the card.
Again with the rainbow theory I've bene replying genshin and come across Yoimiya's story quest (idk if its been discussed) but i cant forget this one line: "Heck i entertain my fair share of fantasies... The FIRE DIAMOD that spins around and shoots out lights that are all the colours of THE RAINBOW... Ooh the mist spirits that live far off in the mountains and guide you to fairyland if you can find them..." (the next part isn't in the travel log bc its a dialogue when you're traveling to the next destination) "a lot of them have bad endings though. Like the fire diamond will get put into a rich persons gallery, where it will never be ignited again. Or someone will see the mist spirit and not manage to capture it but because the anger it, it'll never show itself again." (the next part was interesting given your previous videos) "the hero who SLAYS the dragon BECOMES the NEXT dragon" and given that alot of teyvat's fairy tales have some root in its history i think its very interesting in context to natlan and dragons. "the sacred sword that once fought darkness becomes a doomsday weapon" this also reminded me of narsissenkrauz, travellor and sibling, and the battle pass story. ANYWAYS i just thought it was fun Im not sure if this has been discussed before lol
10:31 So the Traveler might not have the tattoos like Xiao or Azdaha, but our outfits do change color with the elements that we absorb from the Statue of Seven. I remember something about how the travelers moveset resembles Neuvillettes, and he’s the hydro dragon. Does that mean that our outfit glows when we use raw elemental power rather than a vision?
Edit: ALSO!! In the intro cutscene where we pick which traveler to play as, our outfit glows white, which might be a reference to how Nibelung acts as a prism turning white light into all the seven colors. I don’t know how exactly it fits into the theory but I thought it was interesting to note!
Nilou is the true Pyro Archon, change my mind.
Your vids are so cvnt!!!! Keep it up!!
Klee: I guess mom (HOYOVERSE) forgot me this time.
Alice: ...
Nilou: Klee, you already sold your witch skin, it's time to SELL MINE.
omg i was so happy to see this vid bc im so curious and even happier when i saw it was ashikai
This was the best thing to wake up and see this morning :)
The summer event before each region always hints the story line of the new region. It’s gonna be interesting
Hell yeah Ashikai video !!
amazing video, but i just wanna say it's soooo funny how the story that's supposed to foreshadow natlan's story is one about characters losing their color 💀
Also I don't think we've ever seen Scaramouche use Electro powers before his Shouki no Kami form. The markings on his body could've been glowing purple then, but we wouldn't have seen them, since his old clothes weren't semi-transparent like the current one.
i watched this video earlier and great work as usual, but just now I was going over some pretty extensive notes I took while playing HI3 piecing together the events of the previous era and realized that previous era Murata Himeko destroyed and was killed in Australia. I’ve been kind of thinking for a while now that if Murata is the name of a pyro archon and not a mistranslation like ive seen a few people claim, then shes most likely the previous one. Seeing that so soon after watching this is making me more convinced
On the topic of the rainbow serpent, there is a myth where the rainbow serpent eats children by offering them to sleep in his mouth before fleeing because he swallowed the children. There are many different takes on the outcome and intent, some stories suggest that swallowing the children were incidental, while others suggest it was intentional because the rainbow serpent was hungry. I don't have much say on the topic but all I know is that it is perfect for some messed up Genshin lore :)
Hard to believe its almost natlan
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i still remember when we just enter fontaine
The dragon in the trailer also looks like Ursa the Drake from the manga. You know, the one Venessa and her tribe had to fight to gain freedom? And Venessa is from Natlan. So for a dragon that looks like one a descendant of Natlan/Murata fought 1000 years ago to appear in an event that foreshadows Natlan… yk.
I'm very hyped for Natlan but it feels kind of sad saying goodbye to Fontaine
I felt the same when we said goodbye to sumeru, but natlan looks sooo good and I'm excited
yeah this is the first time I felt sad saying bye to a nation before 😭😭 Fontaines story was so good
we still have half of mt Esus left to explore tho
there might also be another sunk part of the continental plateau, like remuria, but that's not very plausible
Hoping we get a Benny boy video, his character story seems important for natlan not to mention his vision story which was kinda sus and gave me phoenix vibes
to point out a
kinda obvious connection the relationship of nathlan and light: pyro= fire= source of light. i dont't have anything deeper to say other than that correlation.
They seem to be losing their colour already. They're so pale
Australia mentioned!
Good luck with all the Mayan mythology everyone’s got like 2-3 names
snorts copium* IS A BENNETT THEORY VIDEO AROUND THE CORNER?!
great video as always ashikai!! speaking of the summer event foreshadowing… what if it happens because nicole is a visionary and knows what will happen? what if she’s trying to ‘prepare the traveler’ for the events of the archon quests? the summer areas always seem to have some connection to the hexenzirkel, and they’re also often the reason we get there in the first place.
Nilou is gonna make me bloom
Omg rainbow snake mentioned? I never thought a childhood tale would ever be brought up.
signora has glowing markings on her back in the crimson witch form
I wonder if the glowing markings mean they are somehow immune to changes made by Irminsul. If they're somehow connected to the leylines directly. Zhongli and Venti are the only two of the "original 7" left and always seem to hint at knowing more about what's going on than they let on. They likely have a deeper connection to Teyvat that was established long before everything went down.
I've always been excited to see inspirations of the Aboriginal Dreaming in the game, which at first would appear in Khanrei'ah (because it's the land down under)
This has been in my head since we learn of the 3 moon sisters, which is alarmingly similar to the Dreaming myth of the Three Sisters
13:09 I feel I should mention a theory here about a certain someone possibly being the current holder of the pyro gnosis…
“Never trust a dictionary!” - Ashikai 2024
I just want Bennett Canon in Natlan story, like... Come on, it's hard not see him there after Natlan build up and all😂
you are so smart oh my GOSH
13:10 Bennett's story actually is very similar to Kuntur from Natlan
Hoping each tribes has chants. It will be amazing if they perform it