This SMOKE Lens Filter ROCKS!
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Add smoke or haze to your footage using this simple screw on lens filter! See how the Tiffen Smoque 2 compares to the Black Pro-Mist and other filters. My Camera Guides and LUTs: academy.dslrvideoshooter.com
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0:00 Introduction
0:59 What is the Smoque Filter
1:49 What are Diffusion Filters?
3:06 Diffusion Lens Tests
6:50 Why Grading is Important!
7:41 More Diffusion Filter Resources
8:29 Final Recommendation and a note on Filter Strengths
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The DP of Marvelous Mrs. Maisel carries smoque filters in case they don’t have time to haze a room or for matching a hazed set on a reshoot
Love it! Haze is awesome but man is this easy!
That’s fascinating. Was that from an interview? Could you please post link, would love to hear / watch / read about that. Thanks sir
That show always looks incredible. I’d love to see a breakdown
@@dslrvideoshooterjust a heads up, some Tiffen filters like the Black Satin have grids of bokeh artifacts that can make certain shots unusable, since they show up so prominently in bokeh orbs. Just had it ruin some client shots I did since I wasn’t aware of that issue. I called tiffen and they were like “yeah we know, other people have complained too”…
Nice filters. I would love to see a video showing the differences between lens filters and post effects and the reasons why some effects can’t be done in post as well as a lens filter.
agree 100%
Yes!!! The way light shoots through real haze is impossible to replicate. But would love to see a side by side.
Would like to see that too!
@@jessecumberledge4530 Haze is - again- something different entirely (if you're talking about pumping haze into a set). Haze, optical diffusion and "digital" diffusion are all a bit different...
I have the Glimmerglass 1 and often film outdoors, let me tell you, the halation and the way it softens the harsh digital frame are worth every penny. It makes my footage look dreamlike and totally different to anything else out there. So much more to it than any software effect you can use.
What do you think about GG 1/2? On videos looks like it is twice less powerful than 1 and much less powerful than BPM 1/8. I consider GG 1 or GG 1/2 just for having really subtle halation. I'm just afraid 1/2 can be twin image to no filter because so far Glimmerglass line is the most subtle in Tiffen.
Amazing video as always, and was actually just starting to go down the diffusion filter rabbit hole (Tiffen, Moment, Urth, etc.). Was also happy to see the shoutouts at the end of the video. Such a simple gesture, but genuinely something that can make a huge difference for smaller creators!
That was great. Seeing the crazy halation character of the Smoque 2 on the light was wild. Love effects when stacking as well. Thanks for the great demo Caleb.
I loooooove your studio and that little table with the Macintosh on it!!! It almost looks like a CG or a toy scene and the lighting is really great. Could come directly from a Pixar movie or something. Really great work.
I can’t be the only one who isn’t a fan of Black ProMist filters. I get when they’re used with a purpose, but way too many people here on CZcams use them 24/7 and never take them off their lenses.
When I see videos with very low contrast and extreme highlight blooming I can tell right away they just slapped on a BPM filter because everyone else is doing it
This Smoque filter is quite interesting though and if used purposefully I think you can get amazing footage with it
Agreed. Glimmer glass is much better. I see a lot using 1/4 to 1/2 BPM filters, it's too much, but like a lot of newbs the tendency is always to go heavy handed.
@@myvideoguythey are supposed to be matched to the lens size.
Agreed, specially when you can add the effect in post ...
@@kozykev Which effect? Haze? :)
Thanks for the hint, I had no idea that such filters exist, very few shops carry them - and I like the effects! Will definitely try them one day for both photos and videos.
Ahhh thanks for this video man! I've been trying to figure out which filter to get, so thanks for getting these filters to test out!
No sweat bro!
This is amazing! I use a Cinebloom and DreamFX but was curious about glimmerglass, and now finding out about this smoque filter I might just need to pick it up as well.
Wow thank you for this. Never new a smoke filter was a thing. Looks just like atmosphere spray was added to the room! Also that triangle diagram is pretty cool. I’d hang that on a wall 🙌🏻
I’ve used this for years and never thought to make a video about it smh 🤦♂️ Fantastic video Caleb!
Really useful, best vid on filters ive seen so far.
Love that you did a shout out to small channels! Respect that!
The MOST helpful video I’ve seen for these filters. Thank you
Fantastic, been looking for something exactly like this filter. Thanks Caleb.
Thank you so much for giving me a shout out at 8:08
Been watching your stuff for ages and never thought I would one day appear in one of your videos :)
The filter, especially in combination with some of the others look really, really good.
This is interesting on an artistic level. Modern lenses are so clean/clinical that people are adding character to them. Stuff that is just part of the inherent character of many vintage lenses.
Thank you for the comparison.
GxAce, Casey, might be the most creative filmmaking and photography channel I know. All his content is way up there. Strongly suggest his channel. Every video is almost like a sci-fi movie (blade runner and such), great content.
Great content, as always. Thanks for this really helpful comparison. Have a great day!
I love that you shouted out some other channels to check out. Nice work on this video Caleb!
Game changing. Thanks for sharing this!
I just ordered a GG1 Tiffen in 77mm a few days ago! Can't wait to use it for both photo and video.
This filter will change some of my workflow ❤
Thanks for this extremely useful video!
I’ve been following your channel for 5 or 6 years maybe more haha, and I’ve always added those effects in post production because couldn’t decide which filter to buy since there are expensive. This video will definitely help me chose and take the plunge :)
Edit: I also love using my fog machine to create a smoky ambiance in my sets, but since I make 30min long shots, it’s not consistent as time passes and grading is sometimes tricky, those filters will definitely solve that.
Awesome review & lesson, thanks!
Ooohhh... Such a nice filters!!! They look good for (sub)urban long expossure shots and portraits. Would love to be able to buy those.
Thank you for this video and for promoting other creators 😊👍
These look super interesting. Thanks for sharing the deets 😜👍🏽
Thank you man! Always good to see sir camera junkie!
Caleb, wondering how these gems might work outside. Great video! 💛🙏🏽
I refer to that triangle chart whenever I want to buy a diffusion filter. I hate the pro-most 1/4 that I have. I think I want the black Satin, but 82mm is always outta stock. I noticed Tiffen sells them directly from their site since years ago.
Goat vid. Amazing job man.
Good video, waiting for a diy smoque Filter vid🖤
That lumix in white looks gorgeous…
Thanks Caleb, wasn't aware of this filter
Cool! This channel is the GOAT!
I definitely want one of these now
Would have loved to see a Cinebloom as part of the comparison! Great video!
Looks dope
Hey! Love the review!!!! I got a few questions. What lens were you using to film the desk shot? My next question is, based on what lens you used, what was the circular size of the glimmerglass filter when you ordered it? Last question is that, say I wanted to get the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 zoom lens and put a glimmerglass filter on it, Do you know what would be the correct circular size of the glimmerglass filter for the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 zoom lens?
nice video ! Im a photographer and also collect and use vintage computers) So nice classic mac you have here ...
ohhhhhhhh... that looks awesome
Somebody Stop Me! Caleb Pike is Smoqqqqueeeinng with another video! Thanks, amazing video, as always
Thanks James!
Awesome vid 🔥
Thumbnail looks like a Blender render 🤭
Totally 😂, I even thought it was a blender tutorial until I check the channel name
Hey Caleb, great comparison video! I have a special request for you: recreate these diffusion filter effect within Premiere or Resolve to compare a lens filter vs color grading work. I'm sure you can recreate the Smoque filter effect by just raising the blacks and adding a bit of halation. I would be very curious to see the difference.
Cheers!
Love this video!!!!!!
Great video. Id been considering a pro-mist but now feel like smoque is more my taste.
Also, what lens is that on the a6400??
Very good content, Thanx ! I want filters for my music videos. It should not so dreamy. I need a little darker and mystic. Do you have a recommendation a alternative to those tiffin ? 🙏🏼
Glimmerglass and the new Lucid Dream FX filter from PrismFX are S-Tier!
Thanku U amazing review
If a filter’s main selling point is lowering contrast, I’d be tempted to just do that in post, but I suppose it could be helpful for high dynamic range scenarios
Agree. I'm here for all the yummy light artifacts though.
They also effect light sources by adding a bloom effect and can have a nice softening effect on skin which can be flattering on older subjects or female subjects
I have an older repeat client who wouldn't like the look of the image when it was too sharp, pop on a Hollywood Black magic filter and they love it
Beautiful :D
your audio sounds amazing
Thanks for that great video. Can you Tell me the difference between the Tiffen Smoque and the Tiffen fog filter? Thanks 😊
I remember watching some CZcamsr and wondering what was soooo calming about his videos???
Then I discovered these filters
It's probably because of my monitors but I don't see much of a difference between the lenses when comparing them on clips of yourself. I think using more outdoor shots instead of yourself would help, just because I noticed a difference with the room shots a lot more than when you were using comparison shots of yourself. Could be time to get better monitors as well though lol!
Fire!
Cool video! What is that lens that you have on A6400?
I have a question Caleb. I use SLR Magic microprimes which are already a bit flare-ry, not very sharp and they don't have much contrast as well almost like a vintage lens. Now I use them as my own signature look for how they render these characteristics. I'm willing to get the Glimmerglass but is it worth it or will it be overkill?
Maybe try a glimmerglass 1/2?
I really love the glimmer glass as well, now I'm kind tempted to buy the smoque filter, but I don't need it.
Would love to see a comparison between this filter, and a filter added digitally in post. It looks nice, but would prefer a workflow of clean footage I can alter and play with digitally.
Well now I wanna get this and see what it mixes like with my Black Satin, which I like a LOT. *shakes hands at the sky*
Shhh… don’t tell people about the Black Satin-let it be our secret weapon 😉
Kidding of course, but it’s definitely my favorite diffusion filter of all time.
@@gitpho hah! Good point - hidden secrets for sure!
thanks for mentioning Ben&Jack Studio, I know those fine gentlemen personally 😉
Love my Glimmerglass! It doesn't get nearly enough attention compared to the black pro mist film-bro hype train
Glimmerglass is like Black Pro-Mist without the cringe and because it's rare, it looks unique
I find stacking filters in different orders makes a difference too, have you experimented with that?
I tried that but really didn't notice a huge difference if any.
What order would you stack the GG and the Smoque? Which one goes on first?
I've got the BPM 1/8, SMOQUE 1 + 2, aaaaand I love them 😂
I use 1/8 BPM all the time and want to get me a Smoque as well - would you rather recommend the 1 or 2?
You should do a test of 90s filters
When you stack a diffusion filter with an ND filter, which one should be placed first (closer to the lens): the ND filter or the diffusion filter?
Would you say that these effects are also achievable within your editing software? Is there much of difference in the final look? (Besides obvious workflow differences)
I would hope so as those little guys are expensive. I haven't tried it, but I already know you can get those glow effects. You might be able to take a solid color maybe an off-white and blend it over the image to give it that milky smoke. I need to try it.
Is it not possible to create those effects in SW (Premiere Pro)? If so what would be the pro's and con's. I'd think that it gives you more versatility if you can do it in post en perhaps also cheaper than buying one or more expensive filters (depending on the lens diameter). I do like the effect of the combined filters as it gives a kind of 80ties vibe to the desk image.
A big pro would be that you could create effects SOOC, like in analog times, focusing on making content instead of editing it.
@@marcinmrzyglocki And the con would be that if your artistic vision changes at any point, later today or in five years, then tough luck - you're stuck with that effect forever.
@@Lishtenbird this is still a viable choice - just like we can't change our memories, we might consider the photography to be a final record of work done with light, not an unfinished, raw source for further work.
What's good about the filter is - you may no longer need to get a vintage lens, as you can get a pretty much the same look with putting a filter on top of a modern lens. They way I see it.
what lens do you have in your sony camera? i mean the one in the table
Can I ask you who you would recommend for gear insurance? Paul.
Dang, that mic sounds good! Almost made my buy it, but the way my bank account is set up, lol! Great Video!
I think it’s the Sennheiser 416 Shotgun, it’s covered in other videos on the channel, a beautiful mic
Now I see where Jason got the idea!
Прошло 30 секунд, а я уже хочу купить этот фильтр))
ну и зря. такого же эффекта можно добиться и на посте. дублируй слой, добавь сильное размытие по Гауссу для верхнего слоя, поменяй режим наложения на Замену светлым и уменьши непрозрачность. всё. абсолютно такой же эффект
I want to view the videos mentioned in this video but don't see the links in the description at all, just affiliate links and product links. Were they removed?
Yoo, are you from Rockford, Illinois?! Thats my hometown! I'm working in Chicago but thats awesome if you're a fellow filmmaker repping the 815! Small world!
can this be used in photography too?
I love shooting with filters but I always get nervous about having the look baked in. Most of the time I'll shoot the sequence twice, one with and one without...just because I know I'll kick myself later if I don't.
I wonder what my problems would be if I try to do this in post with Davinci?
dang - the thumbnail and first impressions looked like a 3d render ^^
I most use only a VND filter for the kind of video that I make, but my doubt is: how do i add two filters on the same lens? Do they must have the same diameter or does one need to be bigger or smaller than the second one?
as long as your filters also have a thread on the front (my gobe vnd has one while the k&f doesn't) there should be no Problem - the size must be the same tho so for example 70mm on 70mm
That Smoque filter strait up made your phone light look like a Lumos spell
Would it help 8 bit cameras that don't have very good dynamic range?
I love watching GxAce
2:30 - why is a filter called “ultra contrast“ all the way in the corner for decreased contrast?
What cage is that on the A6400?
Beautiful.
If you dont mind me saying, @ 3:00 when you insert comparison clips, could you please sync them so your hand is moving in unison, because otherwise, its chaotic, confusing and too much information
Thank you for indoctrinating and converting me to the Smoque. I’ve been loving it
Thanks Bro! So glad you're digging it!
Wait. Can't this be done in post? Not sure I would want this look baked into my footage but I'm sure it works for some.
Fabulous results! But why use expensive filters if the same effects can be achieved in post? One exception is that the out of frame light sources affect filters, but they can't affect anything in post. This is the only big difference that comes to mind. Am I missing something?
I think the main reason is to speed up the process. You can do it in post but if you know you want this kind of effect it's more efficient to have it straight out of the camera
Just noticed your shirt!! I’m from Rockford #815
The strength of these filters always has to be linked to the sharpness of your lens at a given aperture. @ F1.4 to F2.8 a 1/8th strength Promist might be suitable. But at F5.6 to F11 where many lenses can become extremely sharp a 1/4th Promist might be more suitable.
Also the focal length has a massive impact. I used to run a 1/4 pro mist and the effects increased a lot on high focal lengths like 80+mm
Oh fuck I’m gonna need to buy this EXPEDITIOUSLY
ngl when i first saw that footage, its kinda look like HLG color profile
Hoya Black Mist filter, same thing.