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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2017
  • Forgot to say it in the video, but the X220 also has a DisplayPort, which is compatible with HDMI. The X200 has VGA, but not that.
    A comparison of the ThinkPad X200 and X220. Both great machines.
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Komentáře • 272

  • @mairacristian54
    @mairacristian54 Před 7 lety +234

    I wanna know who in the world first thought that chiclet style keyboards are better than classic keyboards.

    • @Animated__Freak
      @Animated__Freak Před 7 lety +32

      I don't know but I think the first thinkpad to use chiclet was the X230 and it featured as an option a backlit keyboard. Maybe when they where implemented the backlit they decided it was easier to do with a chiclet design. I know on some newer thinkpads you can do a mod to fit an older style keyboard in them, which is pretty popular.

    • @eli9252
      @eli9252 Před 7 lety +8

      honestly man i prefer my t430's keyboard to the on my x220.

    • @d3stinYwOw
      @d3stinYwOw Před 6 lety +25

      I prefer chiclet style keyboard than classic. Where's your God now?! :v

    • @zebbleganubi723
      @zebbleganubi723 Před 6 lety +8

      ive had both for a few years and i couldnt really tell the difference. when you press the A key an A appears on the screen, when you press the B key a B appears on the screen etc etc what more do you want! :D

    • @EgoShredder
      @EgoShredder Před 5 lety +6

      @ zebble ganubi - Speed, accuracy and comfort with a non-confusing classic IBM layout. Thank you Santa, I have been a good boy this year.

  • @TechBizmo
    @TechBizmo Před 6 lety +63

    1366 x 768 is actually a very common resolution. And just under 1920 x 1080. You could say its a small bit better than 1280 x 720 (720P)

    • @kricku
      @kricku Před 6 lety +6

      It's basically what computer monitors have INSTEAD of 720p. Also 1080i TVs are actually that, normally
      EDIT: Except there's also 1360 x 768 and one of them is the weird one.

    • @Aiden-vj2tg
      @Aiden-vj2tg Před 3 lety +2

      1366×768 is so bad if you are used to 1920×1080. 900 is much better and almost comparable to 1080, but 768 is noticeably bad

    • @smileyguyz
      @smileyguyz Před 2 lety

      @@Aiden-vj2tg I switch back and forth between a 25" 1080p monitor and a few different laptops with 1366x768 screens constantly. I see no real difference. Maybe if you were using a 25" 1366x768 panel, but on a laptop it's really no big visual difference for me on 11.6", 14", and 15.6" laptop displays.

    • @Aiden-vj2tg
      @Aiden-vj2tg Před 2 lety

      @@smileyguyz the real difference is everything renders larger to meet the same pixel requirements and field of view in video games is much reduced. If you decrease the size of things such as text it becomes blurry with unfocused edges

  • @PlasticJackalope
    @PlasticJackalope Před 7 lety +188

    >differences that can make a big difference
    kek

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +113

      at least you know it's not scripted lmao

    • @stumbling
      @stumbling Před 5 lety +9

      differentᵈᶦᶠᶠᵉʳᵉⁿᵗ

    • @stevethea5250
      @stevethea5250 Před 4 lety +1

      @@stumbling i didn't expect this guy to look like an otter

  • @xGOKOPx
    @xGOKOPx Před 5 lety +38

    *literally has the resolution printed out in front of him*
    Uhh it's 1366 x 7-something

  • @geoffk777
    @geoffk777 Před 5 lety +8

    I have an X201i with a Core i3 and an X220 with a Core i5. I'd say that they are basically comparable, but the wider display on the X220 'and the slightly faster processor) are worthwhile improvements. A Core2Duo is really a bit slow for modern use. I had an R500 with one, and when it finally died, I was shocked by how much faster the replacement was at web browsing and multi-tasking.
    My web browser frequently bloats up to 3Gb or so all by itself, so I consider 8Gb to be a minimum, even for routine use. 16 Gb is nice (I have this in my home W510), but 8Gb in the portable X-Series laptops is probably enough. That's what I'm using. An SSD is definitely a big upgrade and highly recommended.

  • @ishihara95
    @ishihara95 Před 7 lety +40

    Two videos in one day? Your spoiling us Luke.

    • @doftos
      @doftos Před 6 lety +3

      ishi youre*

  • @KRAFTWERK2K6
    @KRAFTWERK2K6 Před 4 lety +28

    Something that really annoys me the most about the X220 is the lack of 16:10 displays. You lose soooo much usable screen space with 16:9 panels and for computer purposes 16:9 is the absolute worst and useless format. Especially on 12' subnotebooks. 16:10 always made more sense as it combined the best of both worlds. The vertical space of 4:3 and the horizontal space of 16:9.

    • @nitrax8629
      @nitrax8629 Před 3 lety +1

      This is what's making me want to track down an X200s or X201s with the 1440x900 display, more screen real estate than any X220/X230 model. Shame the display was never offered on the full-power versions of the X200 or X201 though.

    • @jasongoulet-lipman7308
      @jasongoulet-lipman7308 Před 3 lety +2

      Good news! You can actually swap the X201s display assembly with 1440x900 and screw it right on the full power X201. It's what I did and it works great!

    • @saraofnorthwales
      @saraofnorthwales Před 2 lety +2

      @@jasongoulet-lipman7308 That's nice to know. I bought an X230 and got caught by the small screen 16:9 impossible to live with aspect ratio and also the really really bad touchpad. I did a bit more research and found out that the X201 is the best of them - screen better, build quality better, better keyboard, full power CPU (watch out for the s model low power CPUs) and ALSO THE X201 LOOKS TO HAVE THE LOVELY LITTLE TRACKPAD FROM THE EARLIER SERIES (X300) - I just ordered one today and I will be doing a full head to head of the X201 vs the X230 on my channel, including VIDEO RENDERING against the T400 / W500 as benchmark.

  • @astrolul
    @astrolul Před 2 lety +6

    4 years later and we still dont have that libreboot for x220

  • @djrivington9084
    @djrivington9084 Před 5 lety +2

    I disabled the trackpad on my x220 too. It honestly just gets in the way when you primarily use the trackpoint, but makes for a comfy handrest.

  • @designernasser
    @designernasser Před 7 lety +34

    Proud X220 owner for 7 years!

  • @amarebare8811
    @amarebare8811 Před 7 lety +23

    I always hit my 4gb limit, sometimes just browsing.
    8 is great but if you like to run virtual machines for even visual novels because dealing with wine is annoying, it's a nice guarantee. Same with core2duo vs i5/i7
    Now if you use 7zip and need to compress shit, a i7 and 16gb is 100% benefit.
    EDIT:
    1366x768 is standard for laptops even now.
    You should get a 1600x900 or even 1080p ips for that x220, you wont regret it.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 Před 4 lety +5

      yeah man, browsers are absolutely notorious for wasting RAM like crazy.... just for opening a goddamn website. The sad truth is that developers have completely abandoned the idea of resource-friendliness and because of that you really need at least 8GB or RAM nowdays for a machine where you wanna do some web browsing on. Absolutely insane…

    • @mateusgomes1086
      @mateusgomes1086 Před 2 lety +2

      What OS do you use? I never went above 3GB when web browsing. I use arch btw

    • @smileyguyz
      @smileyguyz Před 2 lety +1

      @@mateusgomes1086 Same here on full fat Linux Mint Cinnamon install with 4gb of ram and 2gb of swap. I rarely get over 3 gigs of usage and that's with Firefox running enough tabs to fill the top bar and maybe 500 megs used of swap. The worst I've seen was 3.7gb used with a full swap, but I also had more tabs with even heavier pages along with large projects open in Blender & Gimp AND Discord/Spotify open. I still find my 32gb of ram on my desktop useful though :)

    • @leonbishop7404
      @leonbishop7404 Před rokem +2

      @@smileyguyz iGPU also eats up ram so it matters if you have dedicated GPU or not

    • @smileyguyz
      @smileyguyz Před rokem +2

      @@leonbishop7404 To an extent, yeah I suppose it does. The 4gb of ram example I brought up was my HP stream with a Celeron N4020 and integrated graphics. Unless you're loading a bunch of vram heavy stuff, like a LOT, most people shouldn't notice any issues.

  • @MrDarren690
    @MrDarren690 Před 7 lety +57

    b-b-but muh freedumbs!
    (lol, let's hope Libreboot actually comes out for the X220)

    • @nonma2312
      @nonma2312 Před 5 lety +3

      did it come out?

    • @RedFenceAnime
      @RedFenceAnime Před 5 lety +2

      @@nonma2312 no

    • @nonma2312
      @nonma2312 Před 5 lety

      @@RedFenceAnime ty. Can the t420 be libreboot?

    • @user-gi8xg2ki7q
      @user-gi8xg2ki7q Před 5 lety

      ​@@nonma2312 no. iirc x220 can be librebooted but you gotta solder, t420 cant be librebooted, it can be corebooted afaik

    • @kot3405
      @kot3405 Před 4 lety

      I have a friend that i'm pretty sure has ported coreboot to x201 and maybe x220 as well

  • @TehKorwinMikke
    @TehKorwinMikke Před 5 lety +30

    It triggers me that in the title X200 is on the left, while in the video it's to the right wrrrr.

  • @BasedMan14
    @BasedMan14 Před 5 lety +7

    3:39 "At that point of rammage," lol

  • @SSouper
    @SSouper Před 7 lety +21

    can u pls make a video about privacy plz thanks

  • @inwedavid6919
    @inwedavid6919 Před 6 lety +3

    The X220 has a 7mm HD place and a Msata connector being able to have 2 drives on it. Always a plus.

  • @maxc7198
    @maxc7198 Před 4 lety +2

    Performance, processor, etc..... a REAL comparison.... thanks man. Great videos man.

  • @ALLHEART_
    @ALLHEART_ Před 3 lety +10

    7:30 Was Libreboot ever able to successfully exploit and get a free BIOS on the X220?

    • @MsAlfred1996
      @MsAlfred1996 Před 3 lety +5

      No.
      You can check it in their website:
      libreboot.org/docs/hardware/
      However, it can run coreboot. Here's a link of a video showing it:
      czcams.com/video/hxQqvKc7xOA/video.html
      If you want to know how to install Libreboot in an X200 check:
      czcams.com/video/ktcvWkEVBE0/video.html
      If you want more information on coreboot in x200, check:
      czcams.com/video/9sSbFufySJk/video.html
      P.D.: The guy from the first video is the same guy that fixed Luke's X220 from
      czcams.com/video/3X1LUlnhIAI/video.html
      as you can check in
      czcams.com/video/zV1f8raveZo/video.html

    • @totallynotbluu
      @totallynotbluu Před 2 lety +4

      You can get coreboot, just not libreboot

  • @GoodGirlPeruru
    @GoodGirlPeruru Před 7 měsíci +2

    Jesus the years where more than 4gb of ram was "wasting your money"...
    I feel old

  • @thaghost909
    @thaghost909 Před 7 lety +4

    6:00 1366x768 is considered the 720p resolution, not sure why but 1280x720 doesn't match up right so they use 1366x768 instead.

    • @hypocriticalharambe8274
      @hypocriticalharambe8274 Před 7 lety +2

      since some programs require at least a 1024x768 screen minimum (mostly older windows and some point of sell programs have this issue) causing some programs to have 48 pixels cut off a 1280x720 screen.

  • @Animated__Freak
    @Animated__Freak Před 7 lety +15

    Man I wish I would have bought a x220 instead of the x230. Maybe one day they will find a way to make the x230 compatible with libreboot. Works with coreboot atm thou. It also doesn't have a classic keyboard but a chiclet one. I can deal with that I even got backlit on it. However knowing there is a mod to get a classic keyboard to fit on it makes me curious if I should invest in that. Thinkpads are really the best laptops, I hope they never stop making them.

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +23

      The good news is that if the X220 is successfully Librebooted, the chances of the X230, T420 and other post-i5 posts getting a Libreboot increases drammatically. The modern Intel ME has been a big stalling factor in freeing the BIOS in later computers, but if the X220 is successful, that means that overcoming similar MEs in other devices should be much easier.

    • @Animated__Freak
      @Animated__Freak Před 7 lety +7

      Let's hope! I love your channel btw :D

  • @lordwiadro83
    @lordwiadro83 Před 4 lety +3

    You didn't mentioned different aspect ratios of the two screens (16:9 for X220, 16:10 for X200). Also, the X200 has only VGA output, hence a plugged external monitor may show a somewhat reduced video quality. Lastly, although Core 2 Duo may indeed be enough for most folks, it is not as energy sufficient as Core i5/i7 (read: reduced running time on battery).

  • @linguadesogra5287
    @linguadesogra5287 Před 2 lety +2

    I know this is a 4yr ol' vídeo, but I just need to get this right. Coreboot is less potent than Libreboot in terms of cleaning up every Intel blob? I am only asking this question because I have an x220(t) and I would like to modify it to run Qubes.

  • @akirasakura7449
    @akirasakura7449 Před 4 lety +3

    Are lenovo thinkpad X200 good? I was thinking of buying it

  • @RihanPereira
    @RihanPereira Před 7 lety +5

    thanks Luke! I am going for libreboot + x220!

    • @vitacell1
      @vitacell1 Před 3 lety

      No Libreboot for x220. But you can compile Coreboot with castrated ME.

  • @vincentvelini5231
    @vincentvelini5231 Před 4 lety +10

    Description Actuality-Core i5 processor -Core i3 processor-128 SSD GB -300 GB-Model x220 -Model x220iAlso there are some minor things too📼>JustU.Faith/ThinkpadX?葺 like the g on the keyboard not really working that well sometimes, and when it arrived the screen was kinda dirty too. But, this is used so that doesn't really bother me. Overall the product works fine I just have an issue with the misleading description of it, so be careful. Show less

  • @Tracks777
    @Tracks777 Před 7 lety +7

    Excellent video. Keep it up!

  • @SimGunther
    @SimGunther Před 7 lety +10

    Wouldn't we all be hype for a libreboot exploit for i5/i7 processors? It's not like anyone would be willing to give up their privacy and stick w/ the intel process manager just because it's "hard to install libreboot on their computer". :|

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +38

      You underestimate the number of shameless and despondent normies who not only don't care, but will actively signal against you if you say obvious "conspiracy theorist" facts like what the ME does.

  • @plausible_dinosaur
    @plausible_dinosaur Před 4 lety +2

    I've used the x200 for years. The wifi card is weak, and though I replaced it, the bios beeps a lot on start up. Also overheating is definitely a problem. There are a few fixes around, but basically you have to take the keyboard off and hoover it out occasionally. I think I must have replaced the hard drive with the wrong ssd because the Crucial BX500 does a little but not that much for the speed.

  • @MsAlfred1996
    @MsAlfred1996 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Is there any modern laptop that follows the thinkpad philosophy ?
    I mean in the sense of them being very easily reparable, parts being easily replaceable and laptops being upgradable.
    Of course without need to have the mptherboard exposed in order to acces hard drive or whatever.
    I ask because it is going to be more and more difficult to get parts to fix them as tome goes on. Even if you are very careful with your thinkpa, eventually we are going to run out of old second or third hand thinkpads to use.
    What do we do then ?

  • @mr_beezlebub3985
    @mr_beezlebub3985 Před 5 lety +6

    It's been almost 2 years since this video was made. Has the libreboot team managed to get libreboot working on slightly newer Thinkpads yet?

    • @WafflesOinc
      @WafflesOinc Před 4 lety +1

      the latest release is from 2016

    • @vitacell1
      @vitacell1 Před 3 lety

      New version released, but forget about new hardware. They won't accept a castrated ME.
      ME = no libreboot
      castrated ME = no libreboot
      no ME = libreboot

    • @mr_beezlebub3985
      @mr_beezlebub3985 Před 3 lety

      @@vitacell1 That kinda sucks.

    • @vitacell1
      @vitacell1 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mr_beezlebub3985 Yeah I know, but it's not a devs problem, and we need to blame Intel. Intel should release their ultra-super-mega secret ME's source code, which is easy, they only need to release it.

  • @gz6616
    @gz6616 Před 7 lety +13

    I'm curious about, how long are these machines' battery life?

    • @OLDSNOOP123
      @OLDSNOOP123 Před 7 lety +8

      Xunius Xu I bought a new Lenovo battery, and it lasts around 6 hours with medium brightness.

  • @DizzyCsango
    @DizzyCsango Před 4 lety +3

    I hope that you removed the glue stains from the X220 since making this video; it's like a splinter in my eye driving me crazy...

  • @abidzoardar
    @abidzoardar Před 4 lety +1

    Thinkpad X220 vs Thinkpad T420 which one is better ?

  • @desktorp
    @desktorp Před 7 lety +11

    2017 and we still have no standard 'form factor' upon which to slap together laptops.

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +15

      Now that we're gradually moving to a world of 3D printing and decentralized manufacturing, this is more of a possibility. God knows traditional manufacturers have been resisting it. Having easily decomposible and repairable products is disasterous for brands but great for users.

    • @saltyman7888
      @saltyman7888 Před 7 lety +4

      Luke Smith oy vey muh shekel

    • @saltyman7888
      @saltyman7888 Před 7 lety +2

      Luke Smith is there any notable difference between the x200 or the x200s, or other ThinkPad models with the same p attern

    • @MrDarren690
      @MrDarren690 Před 7 lety +3

      Salty Man, the main difference is that the X200 use full voltage processors, which gives more grunt for some more heat and fan spinning with an incremental decrease in battery life, while the X200s uses a low powered one, which gives up some processing power for more battery life and less fans, along with a more portable design and weight. Some s models have a 1440 x 900 screen, but it is still that shitty TN display.
      But, good news! There *is* an AFFS mod for the X200/X201 (s included), which delivers radically better color and viewing angles! It's just a Google search away!
      Regards,
      darrung

    • @houghwhite411
      @houghwhite411 Před 6 lety

      EOMA 68 *Wink Wink*

  • @ulungrinjanidharma8609
    @ulungrinjanidharma8609 Před 4 lety +1

    If i asked what to choose between x220 and x200, i will choose the x200 because, they don't have a touchpad and more comfortable trackpoint buttons. Trackpoint only thinkpad is a very good machine.

  • @jugostran
    @jugostran Před 6 lety +6

    A quick question, can my x200s use 6gb of ram (2*4) since on the lenovo website it states up to 4GB...I want to make my x200s a portable light gaming laptop....

  • @airborneranger-ret
    @airborneranger-ret Před 3 lety +1

    "the cusp of thinkpad goodness" - lol

  • @littlewillie65
    @littlewillie65 Před 6 měsíci

    My X200 is a convertible - complete with the Wacom pen for the touch screen, and the ultrabase with an optical drive should I need one....

  • @vitacell1
    @vitacell1 Před 3 lety +1

    On x220 you can install coreboot with castrated ME, well it's not removed like on x200, but you have more performance.
    Hey, new Libreboot version is here.

  • @mikuhatsunegoshujin
    @mikuhatsunegoshujin Před 7 lety +6

    I've got the x200 ready to libreboot right now.
    No video because reasons.
    How are you going to libreboot it? The hardware way?

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +7

      For the X200, hardware is the only choice. I want to do a vid on this, but I won't have access to a non-Librebooted X200 for a couple months. I also gotta get a Rasberry Pi and the other equipment needed for it.
      If you want to install it on yours ASAP, there are some vid tutorial up on it already: czcams.com/video/CyxgYnOcsTw/video.html

  • @gabriellisi7349
    @gabriellisi7349 Před 6 lety +3

    We found a Lenovo ThinkPad X201 under a pile of paper in my school

  • @GuaSa9juillet
    @GuaSa9juillet Před 4 lety +2

    Hi, I recently discovered this channel and am sort of fascinated by the idea of being converted from ubuntu to arch linux. I'd like to ask: How do you guys make use of the battery of X200 and X220? I mean, do you charge it all the time with the charger or like some said that we'd better configurate some threshold or sth else? Thanks in advance! (y)

  • @jayspeer
    @jayspeer Před 7 lety

    I'm really impressed that you managed to insert the hand meme here

  • @TechDave
    @TechDave Před 5 lety +2

    hey man! the x200 can exactly output HDMI (converted from displayport) using the ultrabase 2! just letting u know! keep at the good work!

  • @ariathyf144
    @ariathyf144 Před 4 lety +1

    Is the IME responsible for all this wifi led flashing I see on the left computer?

  • @kirkeasterson3019
    @kirkeasterson3019 Před 7 lety +1

    What brand did you use for your SSDs? I'm upgrading to an X200 within the week and wish to put an SSD in it. Your video broke the tie for me haha.

  • @galvanizeddreamer2051
    @galvanizeddreamer2051 Před 7 lety +1

    Sweet stuff.
    If I may ask, as I have already but have not gotten an answer, what are your thoughts on the Acer Aspire 5100? If you've used it, in which I can understand if you have not.

  • @MuresanVladMihail
    @MuresanVladMihail Před 7 lety +6

    I'm running Linux on x220, I love it !

    • @comicsans1689
      @comicsans1689 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm running Trisquel GNU/Linux on my X220t

    • @vitacell1
      @vitacell1 Před 3 lety

      Very probably it's GNU+Linux, not Linux.

  • @ElderSnake90
    @ElderSnake90 Před 7 lety

    Interesting about the privacy stuff and the CPUs, not something I'd often think about. But I really should. Cheers.

  • @Zestyclose-Big3127
    @Zestyclose-Big3127 Před 7 lety +6

    1366x768 is not weird at all

  • @gnuPirate
    @gnuPirate Před 2 lety

    So informative. Cheers, Luke.

  • @dominic23jones
    @dominic23jones Před 7 lety +2

    Hey Luke. Great vids on the Thinkpads, thank you. What ssd do you use/recommend?

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +3

      I have a Samsung 500GB and 1TB. I don't really have a preference of brands or anything though; I don't have any knowledge of performance differences (don't think it'd make much of a difference anyway). I just bought those that were the best prices when I looked.

    • @dominic23jones
      @dominic23jones Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks for the reply! Hoping to get my hands on a x200 soon.

  • @IlKuchen
    @IlKuchen Před 6 lety

    If you're giving chiclet day of use it will work fine.i use both and I cannot second you argument of getting tired on Chiclet. Love your ThinkPad.

  • @Hexagenium
    @Hexagenium Před 4 lety

    Is the T400/500 with the P9400 Duo core 2 in the same category as the X200 with it's P8600 Duo core 2 with regards to being able to remove all the intel management engine and run a clean Libraboot/bios ?

  • @luisgonzalez1637
    @luisgonzalez1637 Před 4 lety +3

    I wanna get a x200 for my RMS altar

  • @stuartluscombe
    @stuartluscombe Před 6 lety

    You've sold me on the X220. :)

  • @Jurisdikcia
    @Jurisdikcia Před 4 měsíci

    Exactly, mister.

  • @archygrey9093
    @archygrey9093 Před 3 lety

    Whats the difference in battery life? Is the more powerful i5 also more power hungry than the core 2 duo

  • @jl25735
    @jl25735 Před 5 lety

    Between x220 and t420... Which one would you prefer?
    Is there any old keyboard with a numpad? Thanks

  • @yangxiaolong8657
    @yangxiaolong8657 Před 6 lety

    Hey, should I get a t420 or a t510, of course the 420 has a stronger processor but the 510 comes with dedicated graphics. Is there some flaw to the t510 that its cheaper with dedicated graphics than the t420?

  • @Thorhian
    @Thorhian Před 7 lety

    I do 3D modeling/sculpting/raytracing and I play games. I'm stuck with proprietary Nvidia drivers. I think I'm stuck not having libreboot since I have newer hardware.

  • @Michele5623
    @Michele5623 Před 4 lety

    What Thinkpad do you recommend for compiling programs? I do a lot of toolchain compiling and a little extra performance would be fine: I come from a Celeron n2840

  • @Jellyg00se
    @Jellyg00se Před 6 lety

    Hrm, it's important for me to be able to run Docker containers etc.. and for that I need hyper-v. Does the bios of these machines support it? If so I guess it's then just a case of upgrading the processor to match?

  • @Samk1106
    @Samk1106 Před 7 lety +11

    /g/ user detected

  • @alastorlol502
    @alastorlol502 Před rokem +1

    The X230 is much better. Here's why:
    Very easy to mod in X220 keyboard.
    Much faster and power efficient 3rd gen i5. Also runs cooler.
    Usb 3.0 on all models.
    Still the same chassis as the x220. Only difference was the kb and palmrest.
    Now the bios is unlocked so you can fit in other wifi cards and get rid of the battery whitelist.
    MUCH better graphics preformance.

    • @PiceaSitchensis
      @PiceaSitchensis Před rokem

      Can you put a 16:10 on it?

    • @alastorlol502
      @alastorlol502 Před rokem

      @@PiceaSitchensis there are mods out there to fit a 16:10 13.3 FHD IPS display in however it's one of the harder thinkpad mods.
      Not recommended for beginners.

  • @MrGeocidal
    @MrGeocidal Před 7 lety

    How do they compare with the Thinkpad X230 or X250?

  • @princeofpersia4768
    @princeofpersia4768 Před 7 lety +1

    How about heat? Are there temperatures regular when laptops are idling and when you are doing something intensive ?
    Can you make a video about it and show the temperatures? cause small laptops usually have overheating issues
    Thanks a lot

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +2

      My experience is going to be anecdotal, but I'll tell you: when I got my X200, it had just gotten new thermal paste; it keeps very cool and only starts heating up if it's on wool and doing something really intense.
      The X220 has not gotten new thermal paste in years and when I'm recording video, for example, it can get into 9X degrees celsius (too hot for my comfort!). I was actually ordering mini-screwdrivers now that I need to reapply thermal paste myself. I suspect it will be as cool as my X200 when I do, or at least manageable.
      So I'd say if you know how to reapply thermal paste or can have a friend do it, you shouldn't worry about it. Otherwise, you might want to buy one advertised as refurbished with new CPU paste.

    • @houghwhite411
      @houghwhite411 Před 6 lety

      wow, where did you put the thermal paste? my x200 is hot under the palm rest area, it's no longer a laptop but a lapheater

  • @showmanproducoes
    @showmanproducoes Před 6 lety

    I dont understand the advantantage from X200 above x220? What is libreboot?

  • @dianascholes4689
    @dianascholes4689 Před 6 lety

    i have just brought lenovo thinkpad x200s do you know is windows 10 runs ok on this or will i get driver problems

  • @lifestain
    @lifestain Před 7 lety +1

    What do you all think of the x200s? There are some to sell in my city at lower prices than x200, are they cheaper made? There seem to be some particularities to take into considerations when librebooting, so I am not sure I want to buy it and not being able to libreboot it.

    • @LundMr1
      @LundMr1 Před 7 lety +2

      read the libreboot website :) It is possible, but some configurations concerning RAM is an issue. I have an x200, and I love it. But it gets too hot to be used as a primary computer and the process of librebooting seems very complicated to me :/ I need more elite friends.

    • @eli9252
      @eli9252 Před 7 lety +2

      they're basically the same thing. main difference is that the x200s can have a 1440x900 panel instead of the 1280x800 on the x200. www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X200 www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X200s

    • @lifestain
      @lifestain Před 7 lety +1

      Thanks for the information!

  • @TickTackTech
    @TickTackTech Před 4 měsíci

    So both is good, alright gonna get them both (I already got it) :3

  • @YouKnowMeDuh
    @YouKnowMeDuh Před 5 lety

    Whatever you do, just don't get a Yoga 900 like I was convinced to a few years ago. That being said, continue as usual.

  • @TheGunman889
    @TheGunman889 Před 7 lety +2

    I wanna go from my dell d630 to a x200 but I dont think I could live without a touchpad I would have to carry the mouse around :/

    • @bradleyhove4177
      @bradleyhove4177 Před 7 lety +2

      Crane try the track nipple, you'll love it. Seriously though, I thought I'd never get used to it but after two days I like it better than a touchpad.

    • @MineGames131
      @MineGames131 Před 6 lety +2

      if you get the x201 it has a trackpad.

  • @jackfrasiercomedy5942
    @jackfrasiercomedy5942 Před 6 lety

    So, if you have a libreboot intel core 2 duo computer for privacy,
    but you can't compile programs on it,
    you probably can't really do other private things on it like use bitcoin, right?
    I meant you COULD use it, but it's slow as molasses, right?
    Also tablet versus regular hinge version...
    I like tablet, and don't need/care for touchpads.
    I will take it or leave it, but I just want a sturdy hinge.
    I hear you need the pen to use the tablet anyway too, right?

    • @vitacell1
      @vitacell1 Před 3 lety

      You can compile any program on any computer, even cross compile.

  • @haiheehee
    @haiheehee Před 7 lety

    I am a fan of the X200 running Windows 7. I always reinstall the OS when I get a new machine. I have difficulty installing the correct drivers to enable the onscreen volume and screen brightness display. I have trouble figuring out the minimal Intel driver software for the X200 that allows the onscreen display of volume and brightness. Does anyone know the sequence of software installs that provide on screen display of volume and brightness, but does not add any unnecessary software?

    • @louise_8546
      @louise_8546 Před 6 lety

      Not sure if this will help as this is months later, but I used an older version of the Hotkey Features Integration tool which enabled the onscreen volume, screen brightness, etc. Albeit with Windows 10 (Pro).
      Posted details here: forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/Thinkpad-X200-7459-1P0-Upgraded-To-Windows-10-Pro-Can-t-Get/m-p/4046125/highlight/true#M84395
      Saw a discussion on a Reddit thread originally.
      Happy 4GB RAM/240GB SSD X200 user with Windows 10 Pro :)

  • @partitionpenguin
    @partitionpenguin Před 6 lety

    Can someone describe to me, a plebian modern thinkpad keyboard user, what the benefits of old thinkpad keyboards are and why they're so much better? I own only a W541 and an X140e and I already feel like they can't get any better.

    • @lordkleiton
      @lordkleiton Před 5 lety +3

      Actually? Nothing.
      Most "Thinkpad people" are just averse to any changes

  • @wellgeo223
    @wellgeo223 Před 7 lety +1

    I don't know man... if it was possible to get free bios on the X1 Carbon, it would be a (albeit overpriced) dream machine.

    • @houghwhite411
      @houghwhite411 Před 6 lety

      x1 carbon is like if thinkpad made apple. But the price tag is too fancy for me :(

  • @0morq0
    @0morq0 Před 7 lety

    The biggest reason to get a X220 is the better screen option, i think.

  • @DrewCreal
    @DrewCreal Před 2 lety

    Would you guys recommend a ThinkPad for recording music and editing video?

  • @prakash.vishwakarma
    @prakash.vishwakarma Před 5 lety

    Considering this is 2 year old video, did they succeed in libreboot x220??

    • @amanaje4743
      @amanaje4743 Před 4 lety +1

      You could check on their website probably.(they didn't)

  • @albanianboy3186
    @albanianboy3186 Před 6 lety

    Hey is anyone here that can help with my choice should I buy lenovo x220 or acer aspire e15? Please tell me I need your opinions

  • @natestertf757
    @natestertf757 Před 7 lety +1

    How many machines do you actually use?

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +2

      ATM just these two and a desktop, although I eventually plan on having everything on my X220 and a dock (or the X200 if Librebooting the X220 does not become possible).

  • @eike6441
    @eike6441 Před 5 lety

    Does you X220 overheat/feel very hot ?

  • @jasonyam6285
    @jasonyam6285 Před rokem

    can tails work on x200?

  • @wofwof14
    @wofwof14 Před 6 lety

    I have x200 and I managed to upgrade it with win10 pro with Adobe Photoshop, coreldraw, video editor, google sketch, almost my multimedia laptop with 8gb ram and 500gb hdd. I also like the fingerprint security. After a year of usage with all the programs, i noticed that my laptop is easily heats up than before. What would be the problem? I hope i get a good response. Thanks.

    • @hobbsy
      @hobbsy Před 6 lety

      wofwof14 have you tried applying your own thermal paste? that can help

    • @wofwof14
      @wofwof14 Před 6 lety

      Hobbsy i haven't try yet, what would be the best thermal paste to use?

    • @hobbsy
      @hobbsy Před 6 lety

      wofwof14 I’m not sure, sorry

    • @wofwof14
      @wofwof14 Před 6 lety

      Hobbsy do you own a x200?

    • @hobbsy
      @hobbsy Před 6 lety

      wofwof14 I have a x220. The thermal paste issue is something I’ve noticed reading reddit etc. Might be worth a try.

  • @n.w.aicecube5713
    @n.w.aicecube5713 Před 4 lety

    Any update : Could the Intel Managment Engine get removed on x220 ?

    • @vitacell1
      @vitacell1 Před 3 lety

      No, but it can be castrated with ME_cleaner
      libreboot.org/faq.html#intelme

    • @noahpaulette1490
      @noahpaulette1490 Před rokem

      Yes and no. You can get rid of most of the ime with coreboot but some pieces must remain sadly.

  • @paul99106
    @paul99106 Před 7 lety

    what are the most modern cpus that work with libreboot? As far as I know it works with intel core i2 2nd gen or older, but what about other brands?

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +2

      You can check the Libreboot website to see what motherboards they support. They've mostly focused on computers with native Intel processors, but there are a few others. I will say AMD processors have been just as bad; they have something analogous to the ME preventing Libreboot from being easy.
      Of course it's less the processor itself that's a problem and more what kind of garbage comes with it.

    • @paul99106
      @paul99106 Před 7 lety

      besides from the by libreboot supported hardware, are there some more companies that manufacture cpus/mainboards without these "additional features" and could possibly librebooted in the future?

    • @Retro6502
      @Retro6502 Před 7 lety +3

      There's a company called Purism that's removing as much as possible, but reality is you can't completely get away from it. All Intel chipsets since 2008 include the Management Engine. Up to the Core 2 series chips it could be disabled, which is what a Librebooted x200 does. In the Core i3/i5/i7 it's not possible to turn it off. The best that can be done is to trim down the ME firmware as much as possible, but the ME will shut the system down if it's not supplied a minimally valid firmware signed by Intel. AMD has something similar. The only way to completely avoid it is use x86 from before mid-2008 (like Thinkpad x60) or look at an ARM based system.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM Před 5 lety

    You said the res is 1366x768? That's a common cheap laptop resolution.

  • @octavylon9008
    @octavylon9008 Před 3 lety +1

    Does libreboot work on the X220 now?

    • @lukaspinoti107
      @lukaspinoti107 Před 3 lety +1

      no sadly :(

    • @f23anone82
      @f23anone82 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lukaspinoti107 Are they working on fixing this or is it impossible?

    • @lukaspinoti107
      @lukaspinoti107 Před 3 lety +2

      @@f23anone82 To my knowledge, the Core series processors are significantly harder to libreboot. The project is pretty much dead. Coreboot still has a very active development and works on recent hardware. Tbh I'm content with coreboot.

    • @vitacell1
      @vitacell1 Před 3 lety +2

      @@f23anone82 Intel is the culprit. Blame them.
      Anyway Libreboot is a Coreboot distribution, so you can compile Coreboot and castrate ME, but it still be here (basic parts for boot) and only Intel knows what it does. Libreboot just won't accept and tolerate any blobs/proprietary software.

    • @noahpaulette1490
      @noahpaulette1490 Před rokem +1

      @@vitacell1 pretty much this, you just can't quite remove all of it.

  • @ALulzyApprentice
    @ALulzyApprentice Před 7 lety

    The Acer E 15 has that rez. 1366x768. Very odd, IMO.

    • @Up8Y
      @Up8Y Před 7 lety +1

      For some reason thats a really standard laptop resolution these days. I wish it was something like 1600x900 or higher, but that's what i get for buying cheap crap

    • @Retro6502
      @Retro6502 Před 7 lety +2

      1366x768 has been the most common resolution on laptops for years. It's done to keep scanline rate compatibility with the XGA standard (1024x768) and just increases the pixel clock. This stretches the display horizontally to accommodate a 16:9 format, hence 1366x768.

  • @grady7443
    @grady7443 Před 6 lety

    Does either one have the rubberized (grippy)finish on it?

    • @houghwhite411
      @houghwhite411 Před 6 lety +1

      both should have, even the most recent thinkpad model has them too and it's their tradition

    • @grady7443
      @grady7443 Před 6 lety

      No the modern one's don't have it.

    • @timothy-ha
      @timothy-ha Před 5 lety

      @@grady7443 they do

  • @AM-mk3zc
    @AM-mk3zc Před rokem +2

    x200 is better espicially with libreboot

  • @paul99106
    @paul99106 Před 7 lety

    make a review of the T420 bleeaseeee

  • @carlossegura889
    @carlossegura889 Před 7 lety

    how did you upgrade your x200 to 8GB? It wont work on mine :(

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  Před 7 lety +3

      You just need two sticks of DDR2 RAM. Remember that you should also have a 64 bit operating system: 32 bit OSes have a RAM cap of around 4GB.
      Here's preceisely what I bought:
      www.ebay.com/itm/4GB-2x-2GB-Memory-RAM-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T60-T60p-T61-T61p-X60-X60s-X61-X61s-/121821155384?hash=item1c5d1b5038:g:nFUAAOSwHQ9WURoD

    • @jordanhazen7761
      @jordanhazen7761 Před 6 lety

      My x200s takes DDR3 (PC3-8500, 1066 MT/s). Did you post the link for an older Thinkpad by mistake?
      Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
      System Information
      Manufacturer: LENOVO
      Product Name: 7470W1X
      Version: ThinkPad X200s
      ...
      Handle 0x0021, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
      Memory Device
      Array Handle: 0x0020
      Error Information Handle: No Error
      Total Width: 64 bits
      Data Width: 64 bits
      Size: 4096 MB
      Form Factor: SODIMM
      Set: None
      Locator: DIMM 1
      Bank Locator: Bank 0/1
      Type: DDR3
      Type Detail: Synchronous
      Speed: 1066 MT/s
      Manufacturer: 0198 # (Kingston)
      Serial Number: 9208D61F
      Asset Tag: 1101
      Part Number: 9905428-020.A00LF
      Handle 0x0022, DMI type 17, 27 bytes
      Memory Device
      Array Handle: 0x0020
      Error Information Handle: No Error
      Total Width: 64 bits
      Data Width: 64 bits
      Size: 4096 MB
      Form Factor: SODIMM
      Set: None
      Locator: DIMM 2
      Bank Locator: Bank 2/3
      Type: DDR3
      Type Detail: Synchronous
      Speed: 1066 MT/s
      Manufacturer: 0198
      Serial Number: 9208D61F
      Asset Tag: 1101
      Part Number: 9905428-020.A00LF

  • @jugostran
    @jugostran Před 6 lety

    Y no latch on x220? How am i supposed to hit my annoying friends with it?

  • @iLiokardo
    @iLiokardo Před 5 lety

    ohh the space between the keyboard and the edge...
    the edge looks nice too.
    I have a newer Lenovo V330, and it is so SHIT.

  • @timelesstrance3720
    @timelesstrance3720 Před 5 lety

    Why doesn’t Luke like UEFI?

  • @caleb22lr
    @caleb22lr Před 3 lety

    i have an old Lenovo R60

  • @ClaudioDrews
    @ClaudioDrews Před 6 lety

    I have the x201i. :D