Don't be silly, it's not extremism when you are extremist while rich and influential. It's extremism when you're a pleb getting above your station in life.
No surprise there. I'm still flabberghasted that not one MP walked out of HoC whenever Johnson rose up to speak. Allowing themselves to be so blatantly lied to has exposed total contempt for their constituents. By hiding their cowardice and/or self-serving interests under the rubic of party loyalty tells us all we know as to who and what is running his country into the ground.
All roads lead to Gove! Baroness Warsy singled him out as a dark figure in the party and when you think that list includes people like Braverman, Bed Enoch and 30p it makes you wonder what the conceited PoC really thinks. She said it was Gove that changed Cameron prior to the referendum and wherever there is corruption Gove is involved at some stage.
‘It’s what ever we say it is’ especially if it originates from Labour, but most definitely never, never, EVER from this Tory ‘basket of deplorable’s’. Ye right, they push, twist and break any and every law that is either on the books, or new ones they create. Shameful. Imagine in 10 yrs having to explain to their ‘zero hour contract,below poverty line pay, living in dormitory style accommodation grandchildren that they have the Tory ‘s who were in power from 2010 - 2024 to thank for their 2nd world living standards, but say it with the same conviction as the ‘morning round’ a’holes have done when they excuse away lies and bigotry of their party elite.
How about consistently and repeatedly announcing legislation to newspapers before bringing them to Parliament? I believe the speaker of the house said this undermined parliament.
When the Labour Party form the next government they should keep this law, follow it to the letter, uphold the spirit of the law and ban the Tory party. Because no organisation has done more than the Tory Party to undermine liberal democracy, spread hatred and seek to remove people's rights.
If the Labour party form the next government I can't see them doing much repealing of this governments extreme laws - just too convenient to have them on the books.
"Can lead to the radicalization of individuals, deny people their full rights and opportunities, suppress freedom of expression, insight hatred, weaken social cohesion..." I thought they were talking about themselves!
I can’t believe what I’ve just heard come out of Goves mouth! I would have thought Gove would say something: The proroguing of parliament is matter of the crown and the prime minister, the Supreme Court overreached in making a ruling on it and parliament has now legislated to ensure that in future, the Supreme Court won’t intervene on prorogation matters. All of which happened.
In other words, the Government undermined parliamentary democracy and then changed the law around parliamentary democracy to ensure they could undermine parliamentary democracy in the future, without any checks or balances. All of which happened. You and the Tories are extremists, deal with it.
@@fricozoid1 I agree with your sentiment. But it annoys me every time someone says parliament was illegally prorogued, because the vast majority of people probably think that if a prime minister did it again, then the Supreme Court would step in again. Bit of course, now they actually can’t. So it leaves out the undermining of democracy that followed.
@@Batters56 oh do you mean that after the proroguing of parliament another undermining of democracy occurred by name of changes in legislation to allow more undermining of democracy?
If MPs who are being interviewed do not answer the question the interviewer should end the interview and not allow them to give party political broadcasts.
The problem is that the party press office gets the questions in advance. Grant Shapps was caught out when he was too lazy to read Sky's questions before hand and started complaining that some of the questions were unfair, only for the presentation to say, on air, that his press office had had the questions in advance and okayed them.
A Tory Cabinet minister who stood for PM, openly showing contempt for the unanimous decision of the Supreme Court that Johnson lied when he prorogued Parliament. To make it political shows contempt for the Rule of Law, and the independence from politics of the Judiciary.
Billhoocks and we all know it. Keep on doing this and you’ll reach a critical mass of people who have lost faith in the system and unfortunately it’ll never go the way you expected
Never mind the unlawful proroguing of parliament, there are plenty of other instances of the Tory Party doing their damdest to undermine/destroy parliamentary democracy. Proroguing was just the 1st of many - particularly under Johnson, Truss & now Sunak.
He's right. Proroguing Parliament wasn't part of an attempt to undermine democracy. It did, however, undermine democracy. It was part of an attempt to hold on to power and that attempt was made by a group of individuals who felt that they should stay in power. They saw themselves as the best people for the job and they fooled themselves that proroguing Parliament would not be undemocratic.
The tory party should be proscribed by this new definition, as would some of the front bench, past and present, would also be sure fit under the new definition.
Hope he got asked about voter ID’s because Mogg said as painky as his stupidity that the intention was to harm other parties but they harmed themselves more.
You can just see he's thinking and just pure lying through the question. Now do you all see them for what they are. They are just really bad people in my oppinion. ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
If we do it then it's perfectly legal. If it isn't, we'll change the law and have it backdated to ensure it was legal but you didn't know it yet. Remember, Rwanda is a safe coupled because WE say it is.
Don't be silly, it's not extremism when you are extremist while rich and influential. It's extremism when you're a pleb getting above your station in life.
Michael Gove there, very reasonably and amicably taking us all for fools.
Perfectly put, Sir!
That could easily be the Tory Party's slogan (and people would still vote for them, as long as they look after the rich and dog whistle to the poor)
Unfortunately he is my MP and I apologise to everyone. I've never voted for him though.
Well DON'T LET HIM 😂
No surprise there. I'm still flabberghasted that not one MP walked out of HoC whenever Johnson rose up to speak. Allowing themselves to be so blatantly lied to has exposed total contempt for their constituents. By hiding their cowardice and/or self-serving interests under the rubic of party loyalty tells us all we know as to who and what is running his country into the ground.
The slimiest tongue in Westminster by far. Gove is not to be trusted on any level.
As far as I'm aware he's the only one who has been there throughout everything. I feel greasy just looking at him
All roads lead to Gove! Baroness Warsy singled him out as a dark figure in the party and when you think that list includes people like Braverman, Bed Enoch and 30p it makes you wonder what the conceited PoC really thinks. She said it was Gove that changed Cameron prior to the referendum and wherever there is corruption Gove is involved at some stage.
@@kentendo2672 he's a disgrace to Scotland!
I'll raise you, Rees Mogg😅
He only operates at one level...
Zero seats! Let's goooo!
If people can, they should vote tactically...get these criminal extremists out!
Agree...but don't vote Reform or you are voting for ultra elite Tories
@@TheF1uffyOne.50
Bravo👏
Extremism is whatever the tories say it is
Exactly
‘It’s what ever we say it is’ especially if it originates from Labour, but most definitely never, never, EVER from this Tory ‘basket of deplorable’s’.
Ye right, they push, twist and break any and every law that is either on the books, or new ones they create. Shameful.
Imagine in 10 yrs having to explain to their ‘zero hour contract,below poverty line pay, living in dormitory style accommodation grandchildren that they have the Tory ‘s who were in power from 2010 - 2024 to thank for their 2nd world living standards, but say it with the same conviction as the ‘morning round’ a’holes have done when they excuse away lies and bigotry of their party elite.
And Starmers Labour All corrupt and run by the 1%
Ideally not for much longer
Michael ‘Sniffer’ Gove providing us with today’s reminder of why we need a general election now
Did you hear the sniff right at the beginning 🤣
How about consistently and repeatedly announcing legislation to newspapers before bringing them to Parliament? I believe the speaker of the house said this undermined parliament.
That was one incident
@@northernexciles01 that was the last 5 years of legislation.
@@northernexciles01 its happened more than once.
It happens everytime.
@@TheF1uffyOne.50 I think he's thinking about the illegal proroguing of parliament when the Tories literally tried to abolish parliament.
He’s so full of ****.
I'm afraid you'll need to be more specific than that...
Which one?
"It doesn't fit our definition because WE are the ones doing it."
Rhubarb, Rhubarb, Rhubarb.
Disgusting excuse after disgusting excuse.
Brexit and Rwanda Plan fit perfectly into his definition.
Justifying breaking the law is what the Tories do best.
Followed closely by setting laws that stop any questioning of Tory government.
When the Labour Party form the next government they should keep this law, follow it to the letter, uphold the spirit of the law and ban the Tory party.
Because no organisation has done more than the Tory Party to undermine liberal democracy, spread hatred and seek to remove people's rights.
If the Labour party form the next government I can't see them doing much repealing of this governments extreme laws - just too convenient to have them on the books.
The Tories and labour are one in the same nowadays we need something new.
This is a great question and the proroguing of parliament isn’t raised often enough, we’ve been ruled by extremists ever since that unlawful act.
I'll always be surprised that "patriotic brexiteers" let this slide
@@mrbearbear83They don't care about what rules and conventions are broken so long as their team wins
@@mrbearbear83 Don't be too surprised that idiots are also hypocrites.
Exactly, Gove and his buddies, have also breached International law, and will again, given half a chance. Odious man.
In other words "Rules for thee but not for me"
Over the last few years I’ve become increasingly aware of how thick the sitting government is
Undermining democracy is Johnson/Gove’s speciality
an insincere, a back stabber , and untrustworthy individual. Gove is a despicable person.
Youre TOO polite!
That's what makes him a typical Tory.
The question about proroguing parliament unlawfully was superb. Gove was stumped yet again! Terrific!
How can anyone but the super rich vote Tory.
Tom needs to replace Nick permanently
Why? Because he dared?
The profile pic surprises nobody. Your age was apparent through your opinions
Wasn't Tom an advisor to Theresa May? He's not that much better
100% agree.
No way. Tom is the weakest of them. He sometimes says logical atrocities.
Just ban having them on. If they lie. Ban them. We don't want liers. It makes a bad show.
Gove is an obnoxious person. A liar.
Gove is digging his own grave 😂
Complete word salad from MC.
The slipperiest, slimiest little slug known to slither in parliament.
Get em out now, general election now. they think we're a bunch of peasants. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
We are a bunch of peasants😉😂😂😂😂
"Can lead to the radicalization of individuals, deny people their full rights and opportunities, suppress freedom of expression, insight hatred, weaken social cohesion..." I thought they were talking about themselves!
We will eventually see the back of Gove.
I get the impression that when Tom was advisor to Theresa May, he didn't have alot of time for Michael Gove 😂
About all you can expect from Gove and the rest of his shower
The smoothest operator in Westminster. He lies as easily as he breathes.
Word salads do not fool anybody into thinking you’re actually saying something of substance
Gove, as slimy as ever.
The guy is and always has been a slime ball.
The then PM deliberately misleading parliament definitely undermines parliamentary democracy as does hundreds of Tory MPs backing him to the hilt.
Ban them.
I love watching all these politicians tie themselves in knots and think we believe them.
I can’t believe what I’ve just heard come out of Goves mouth!
I would have thought Gove would say something: The proroguing of parliament is matter of the crown and the prime minister, the Supreme Court overreached in making a ruling on it and parliament has now legislated to ensure that in future, the Supreme Court won’t intervene on prorogation matters.
All of which happened.
In other words, the Government undermined parliamentary democracy and then changed the law around parliamentary democracy to ensure they could undermine parliamentary democracy in the future, without any checks or balances. All of which happened. You and the Tories are extremists, deal with it.
@@fricozoid1 I agree with your sentiment. But it annoys me every time someone says parliament was illegally prorogued, because the vast majority of people probably think that if a prime minister did it again, then the Supreme Court would step in again. Bit of course, now they actually can’t. So it leaves out the undermining of democracy that followed.
@@Batters56 oh do you mean that after the proroguing of parliament another undermining of democracy occurred by name of changes in legislation to allow more undermining of democracy?
@@fricozoid1 That’s exactly it and frankly I fully expected the Tories to use it.
How about a non-binding referendum on a constitutional affair being slavishly adhered to? Doesnt that meet this definition?
Perhaps room could be made in the full prisons by letting people go if they apologise.
If MPs who are being interviewed do not answer the question the interviewer should end the interview and not allow them to give party political broadcasts.
The problem is that the party press office gets the questions in advance.
Grant Shapps was caught out when he was too lazy to read Sky's questions before hand and started complaining that some of the questions were unfair, only for the presentation to say, on air, that his press office had had the questions in advance and okayed them.
Entire argument summarised: yeah, but it’s 10 mil…
This definition is getting binned the second they're out the door.
Majestic question
I like the law when it suits me and don't when it's used against me
Thought of another one! Sitting MPs interviewing each other on UK news channels undermines democracy
Imagine waking up every morning as Michael Gove!?
There isn't a bigger snake than Gove in UK politics right now.
Slippery eel Gove
How would you define a snake who lies and distorts.....
If we lived in a democracy the conservatives would give the people a GE.
The slithy Gove outgrabe
This guy needs to be sent to jail for misleading the country and being corrupt
"it's not illegal if we do it"
Seeking to thwart parliament is what the judgement said.
This government is gone baby.
A Tory Cabinet minister who stood for PM, openly showing contempt for the unanimous decision of the Supreme Court that Johnson lied when he prorogued Parliament. To make it political shows contempt for the Rule of Law, and the independence from politics of the Judiciary.
The person who illegally misled the Queen to prorogue parliament doesn't have brown skin, so clearly it isn't extremism.
He's a mouthpiece for Murdoch and should never, ever be trusted!
What about Zionism/zionists do they come under new definitions as Islamist/Islamism does?
Ahahaha, the sniff though.
Presenter: ‘How would the unlawful proroguing of parliament…’
Gove: **SNIFFFFFF**
I wonder….
😂😂😂😂
Ask him about the 90 million he made off land purchased at £1 an acre 😂
Billhoocks and we all know it. Keep on doing this and you’ll reach a critical mass of people who have lost faith in the system and unfortunately it’ll never go the way you expected
the only reason it wouldn't fit now is because they repealed the FTPA
Not for them, but for you!
I wouldn't trust him to light a candle for fear of him burning the house down
Bye bye Gove 👋👋
Gove In his head: “Are… are…we the baddies?”
What do you expect from a government full of clowns..
Blather blather blather ……. Gove is just another one of the reasons the current party in power need to go. And some may be even to prison
Would it not fit under the definition?
No.
Why?
... Because i don't want it to.
Are these people making these laws the same people who lied and break the law themselves ?
Why does British media pander to these people? Stop giving them a platform
Never mind the unlawful proroguing of parliament, there are plenty of other instances of the Tory Party doing their damdest to undermine/destroy parliamentary democracy.
Proroguing was just the 1st of many - particularly under Johnson, Truss & now Sunak.
Fun fact: when Michael Gove was less of a child than he is now, he used to have his own TV show called "Pob's Programme".
The very fact they even tried it tells you all you need to know about Tories. Bevan was right about them. So was Rayner.
The two-party dictatorship under tory and Labour party tells me both parties are unpalatable.
Great question
One rule for me and one rule for thee.
He's right. Proroguing Parliament wasn't part of an attempt to undermine democracy. It did, however, undermine democracy. It was part of an attempt to hold on to power and that attempt was made by a group of individuals who felt that they should stay in power. They saw themselves as the best people for the job and they fooled themselves that proroguing Parliament would not be undemocratic.
The tory party should be proscribed by this new definition, as would some of the front bench, past and present, would also be sure fit under the new definition.
So it’s not so much what is done but more a case of who is doing it…. Welcome to Orwells 1984 - everyone should be very afraid!
Extremism is when the tories disagree with you
One doesn’t know whether to laugh or to cry.
"Let me twist my own words"
Just making the rules up as they go along.
What a great question. Not surprising he can't answer it.
Makes you wonder. These days back to front 😊
Hope he got asked about voter ID’s because Mogg said as painky as his stupidity that the intention was to harm other parties but they harmed themselves more.
I mean, the Tories are definitely consistently ideological...
Doesn't 14 years of this represent a consistent, ideological attempt to undermine parliamentary democracy?
How are we talking about this.. its obviously not the same if the person has MP as a title. They're born above the law, duhh
You can just see he's thinking and just pure lying through the question. Now do you all see them for what they are. They are just really bad people in my oppinion. ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
What a worm
He needs to get his nose out of the sherbert
If we do it then it's perfectly legal. If it isn't, we'll change the law and have it backdated to ensure it was legal but you didn't know it yet.
Remember, Rwanda is a safe coupled because WE say it is.
Tory slime
What a waste of carbon and oxygen.
Who keeps voting for this guy?