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This man needs no introduction. One of the top health and fitness coaches in India who has also mentored some of the top celebrities in Bollywood is Luke Coutinho. Luke has been on the show previously, some of our most loved episodes. We previously spoke about fitness & food habits, drugs & psychedelics, and warrior mentality.
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Veganism is not a diet. It's the ethical principle that opposes the commodification of non-human sentient beings for any purpose, be it food, clothing, entertainment or sports.
Omg! I really can't hear anymore, people saying veganism is just a fad or a trend, ITS FUCKING NOT!! Most of the people(me included) turn into vegan after knowing the bitter facts of the cruel meat industry throughout the world and its damaging effects on the environment. Let me say it again, we are not vegans because we think it's cool, we chose to be coz it's the only ethical decision to be compassionate and loving towards our planet. I personally used to enjoy the taste of various meats before turning into vegan, but decided that animals lives and planet's well being is far more important than serving my taste buds. I hope everyone understands this!
Absolutely correct
Compassion towards animals ❤️
What can you expect from a channel whose entire career is based on pseudoscience and cultural pride?
Next time if you want to talk about Veganism. Talk to :-
1) Menaka Gandhi
2) Acharya Prashant
I guess you are a vegetarian, not vegan.
Ure absolutely correct
Well done
"Vegans going back to eating meat" were never truly Vegans. They were just on Plant Based diet. Veganism is not about health, it's a moral stand against Animal Cruelty & Injustice.
agree bro
Being on plant based diet and excluding animal foods is the basic starting point of being vegan. So they were on a vegan diet but left it because of misinformation
Dude, first of all spirituality one of the primary requisite or a primary self evolution is compassion to other living beings. And this dude is saying on the lines that whatever makes you feel good, that is spirituality. Ok, fine if someone wants to kill someone, it just makes him feel good and alive, so according to this guy that is spirituality.
Now about Islam and other Abrahamic religion he mentioned. These are more or less religion which came from a desert areas where plants was very less. Another part, Abrahamic religions are more or less about just believing whatever is told. So I don't see any spirituality, any real seeking here(all these i am saying based on talking amd observing,feel free to correct me if blind believing, no asking of questions is the way its professed or not)And there who evolve do at their own research and effort.
This guy equates bodily feeling of pleasure, rites, rituals and organsied religion to spirituality.
Spirituality is the door to evolution of humans. It has almost nothing to do with this or that religion.
Despite anything, the unnecessary suffering, and that too massive torture and atrocities are evident that humans inflict on animals. Besides a loving heart you don't need a certain God or a religion to teach you this.
Now if say meat was a lab made cultured meat then that is something you can say I choose to eat or I choose not to eat. But here, people are afraid to get an injection yet they pay for animals to be killed
What's your point ? You're just blabbering
@@tintin931 there is a lot of valid content I've written. Take help from some who can comprehend to explain to you
Calm down buddy, Phone typing too much huh😅
Eat Yummy non Veg Beef, Pork, Chicken, lamb, sea food they are delicious 😋.
Anyway I am a vegetarian that Add greens to my non veg.
@@WarriorOfTruth go get life
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Novak Djokovic is vegan guys. He is one of the fittest athletes . His protein requirements r way higher than PPL like us. So if someone says that vegan won't give u high energy just ignore.
Lol do you take all the multivitamins, protein powder, omegas, etc etc that Novak intakes? Matter of fact, can you even afford the one that Novak takes? 😂😂😂
Can you afford the "vegan" foods Novak intakes? Novak does not eat roti/chawal + one vegetable mate 😂😂
@@AB-nc6gc soy milk , chia seeds, flaxseeds, kidney beans, peas ,brown rice , oats,almonds r few vegan protein rich affordable foods.also I'm vegetarian bcz of my ethics nd my culture nd i don't like to slaughter an innocent animals for my meal .
@@AB-nc6gc my job is not of playing Wimbledon like Novak ...i work for corporate nd my nutrition is adequately taken care of by vegetarian diet . Also buddy if ur poor that doesn't mean I'm also poor. I can afford good diet quite easily...
God bless 😅
@@bhuwanpratap i didnt commented this for the guest. I didn't mean to demean him . He is an expert in health I'm not. I just wrote the comment for all people out there who thinks that only non veg diet has high nutrition by giving them an example of one of the fittest athletes out there.
Also i don't need lessons about humility from any tom dick Harry on yt. Person replied to me that whether I can afford it or not that's why I said if u can't doesnt mean i also can't afford.
God bless
@@ayushgarg6069 bro you don't look like you have your shit together you could've just said bro I have adequate nutrition
Also working in corporate there's a minimal chance you're spending 7 digits on your nutrition like Novak does
Why so salty bro just be calm and respectful
"what works for you" shouldn't be at the cost of others suffering
What others? Humans are the most important species on earth.
@@dank7044 importance is relative
@@dank7044 Without humans the world would work just fine. However, if there are only humans remaining on earth without any other species, without the environment, without biodiversity, without water bodies. We have a major problem.
@@pratzqwtyy If you don't know, just as we eat meat, we also create more meat by constant breeding of animals, to keep the industry intact.
The only thing meat industry is affecting is environment.
@@dank7044 Who said humans are the most important species? On what basis you make that statement.
I disgree to him on this when he said "Energies are Energies no matter what you consume"
If there is category in Food. Then there is category in energy derived from it too.
But you can't deny it is energy... Now it depends on many things like the ingredients going into the food or the preparer of the food, their frame of mind while cooking the food... that's a different aspect...but it is energy right...? Positive or negative is another conversation altogether
@@priyageorge1476 see,the concept of energy and all
You can sustain on any diet with this thing but it will on mode of survival
The body will not see it like wealth but like pennies
And to get the same amount of macros from a vegan diet for example will cost you a lot of money and time and digestion power
But in the case of meat,it will be cocked easily(Again basic cooking) and will give proper protein and Vitamin B12 and creatine
Now to extract these things from a vegan diet is very harmful because protein is not in that much amount and plant based protein is not that effective on humans
So any extreme form of diet even carnivore diet can not suffice human need
@@sarthakbhardwaj3333 I agree completely. My response was to the first comment. Veganism and vegetarianism cause a lot of damage to the environment too... I'm talking about cutting down forests to grow crops. Buying quinoa and other ingredients which are not native to India... Our farmers bear the brunt of this fad mentality too
It is still energy. It doesn't matter if you use a solar panel or electricity produced through coals. They do the same job. One is not going to speed up or slow down things.
Veganism is not a trend, it is a compassionate life style .
Oh shut up. Stop eating avocados and quinoa, that’s creating dry lands in South America.
I mean if you guys are going to make cashew cheese and fake meat, that’s not veganism.
I actually have tried it for 4 months, it’s good for planet and all is bull shit, I was still eating sugar, (and we know how bad sugarcane farming is for planet, & it’s exploited labourers)
So currently I am better eating shrimp, and avoiding sugar. I use shrimp from a shrimp farm, where they are raised to consume, doesn’t disturb biodiversity in “natural ocean”.
Well that’s like farming, isn’t it?
It is weakness humans are made to meat.
Compassion won't work with survival of fittest of mother nature.
Vegitarian is a compassionate life style not veganism , veganism is being stupid .
@@akshaypanwar4964 Good if you're a vegetarian but consuming milk and honey is not good
@@BandeDaKhandaKhadkega I'm asking you something, please just answer in yes or no .
Milk is milk , right?
Cow , goat, etc etc milk , is bad ?
Just yess or no for both
You lost me when Luke compared Hindu Spirituality with Abrahamic Spirituality.
He is not comparing! Luke is saying, are others less spiritual because they eat meat? You should analyze before you jump into conclusions. Meat doesn't dictate whether we are spiritual or not. If someone wish to eat meat, let him or her do so. If someone doesn't want to eat meat, then don't have to. It's called liberty. We all are going to die one day. Eating healthy food is about reducing or preventing diseases, getting nourishment and eliminating starvation while we are alive on earth.
you will see what sort of energy luke has ..being a spiritual practitioner and what is other person energy is
it shows if you compare both individuals
@ranveer, you lost me.
There is only Sanatan Spirituality. There is no other.
@@piyush.pranjal86 you lost me
Neither Ranveer nor this man have the true knowledge
👏👏
These chutiyas get some internet fame and start hosting podcasts without any credentials
@@mayank.gaurav 😂😂😂
Only pegan has
true knowledge. 😂👍.
They have biased knowledge.
Please share 'true' knowledge 🤩
I have been vegetarian since birth and went vegan about 3 years ago because of health reasons at first. I have PCOD and milk and other dairy based products were making my PCOD worse. After that I started researching about what is veganism and I must have read and watched all the content out there including a lot of documentaries. And since then there's no looking back. I stayed vegan because of ethical and environmental reasons. It was a bit tricky at first but I tried different things and figured out what's best for me. I dont take any supplement other than B12 which was lower even when I was vegetarian. I dont eat any of the meat alternatives because I never had meat so I never crave it. Nor do I but any of the expensive vegan alternatives. I make simple coconut nut milk at home. Sometimes I make almond milk (you need only about 16-20 soaked almonds for 250-300 ml that's about a glass of milk) or oat milk depending on what I want to make. I make peanut curd at home and that doesn't cost me much either. I eat normal dal, roti, chawal, sabzi, beans, lentils, legumes, nuts and seeds, soy chunks i.e. Normal ghar ka khaana (My mother just takes out a bowl or two of dal before adding her ghee based tempering to it) and my protein and calcium levels are absolutely perfect. I never owned any leather based clothes or stuff even when I wasn't vegan but I had some wool based clothes and I still wear them, I don't buy any animal skin based clothes and other stuff now but I haven't dumped the old stuff that I had.
We live in a non vegan world and no matter how hard you try, you can never be 100% vegan but I give my best every day. And I think that's what we need. We dont need few perfect vegans. We need a lottttttt of non perfect vegans who are trying to bring a change.
There's a very beautiful quote by Mother Teresa which gives me strength to look at the larger picture and ignore the hate that I often get because I am vegan: "If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives: Be kind anyway. If you are successful you will win some false friends and true enemies: Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank people will try to cheat you: Be honest anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight: Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous of you: Be happy anyway. The good you do today, will often be forgotten by tomorrow: Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough: Give your best anyway."
PS : I dont hate non vegans nor do I force any of my non vegan family members and friends to go vegan. I have seen some vegans who try imposing veganism on others but it doesn't work like that. If someone would have told me to go vegan 10 years ago I would have told them that I can never go vegan because I love my milk, dahi, panner, etc but I did went vegan when it felt right. And I could stay vegan because I had my "WHY". I hope everyone finds there "WHY" when they think of going vegan. I do recommend my non vegan family and friends and others to watch game changers, cowspiracy, seaspiracy and other beautiful documentaries to find their "WHY". We as a community should educate people (non vegans) about veganism instead of imposing it on them and making them think that they are bad people.
I can’t even begin to explain how much this comment has motivated me. I am a vegetarian myself and trying to turn vegan. Thank you so much ☺️
@@aartivenkatesan8048 Hii aarti,
Glad I could be of help. Just remember to keep it simple. Dont go looking for substitutes for dairy stuff as you wont like the taste of a lot of stuff at first. Also go vegan in phases, start by quitting one thing at a time (start with something that's easiest for you to quit) and slowly quit every animal based product you consume and look for vegan and cruelty free brands for non edible things like skin care, hair care, body care, clothes and other stuff like that. Dont throw the old stuff you have but dont buy them in the future. Stick to your simple ghar ka khaana and find plant based cafes and restaurants near you so that you dont end up isolating yourself which makes veganism really restrictive and not sustainable in the long run. And if you have to go out to eat at a place which is not plant based look for dishes which can be easily customised or are already vegan (south indian food is already almost always vegan at most of the places). Also the important thing to remember is to not feel guilty if you end up eating something non vegan by mistake or there's actually nothing you can eat at a place (as I already said in my comment - we dont need few perfect vegans, we need a lot of imperfect vegans are trying their best to bring a change).
Some tried and tested substitutes:
1) Milk :
Coconut milk - Make it at home. Uts really easy to make and won't cost you much. 1-1.5 ltr of milk will cost you about 40-45 rs. Tastes best in soups, smoothies, curries and when you need to cook something creamy.
Almond milk - Again just try making it at home. The commercial one is quite expensive and also contains a lot of preservatives and all. Great for tea, coffee, hot chocolate, baking, etc.
Oat milk - Dont try making this at home first. It will become really slimy and you wont feel like having it. Try making it only after you have mastered making the other nut milks. Urban platters oat milk is great for baking and for tea, coffee.
Cashew milk - Make at home. Very simple and easy to make. Quite expensive to make at home but still cheaper and healthier than the packaged ones. Great when you want to make something cheesy. You can make a cashew cheese at home which can actually act as a great substitute when made right. You can try recipes on goodful (youtube channel).
You can also try soy milk. I dont like the taste of it but you should try that for yourself.
Dont try the grain based milks out there like rice milk and stiff like that.
2) Curd and butter milk:
Peanut curd is the best when it comes to vegan curds. Again I will suggest you to make it at home. You might fail once or twice but after that you will never have to but it from outside. Peanut curd ki kadhi is toh amazing. CZcams recommendation : Rajshri food vegan series, Sanjeev Kapoor vegan series, Vegan richa.
Coconut milk ka chass is the best substitute for dairy based buttermilk.
3) Ghee and butter:
Honestly speaking I dont like the taste of coconut oil on my rotis as a ghee substitute so I just avoid that completely. But for cooking purpose you can stick to any vegetable oils you get in the market. It totally depends on the recipe I want to have when it comes to oil. I use mustard oil for some, refined sunflower oil when I need something neutral, etc.
But you can always make and store homemade nut butters. I have then with my smoothies or just simply have some banana peanut butter bites or apples with some almond butter as snacks and they really help me in keeping my protein intake in check.
4) panner and cheese :
I think this will be the most difficult one to leave ( or substitute) for most of the vegetarians when they are trying to go vegan. Some people stick to soy panner i.e. tofu for this but I dont like the taste of it. You can give it a try. I something have this vegan panner by this brand I cant remember right now but their vegan panner is not soy based and I really like it. You can just sinple browse that and you'll find it very easily. Coming to cheese, god this one is actually the most difficult one. But I stick to cashew chees made with cashews and nutritional yeast (nooch) etc but you can just go for the vegan cheese substitutes. There are a lot of great vegan cheeses out there (urban platter is a great brand to go with. There vegan range is absolutely amazing. You can also treat yourself with vegan pizzas once in a while if there a vegan place serving it near you. You have to look for a recipe on youtube for vegan cheese but @goodful has a really great vegan pizza cheese recipe which you can try.
Find your "WHY" and that will make the transition really easy for you. Consistent knowledge is the key to stick to a new lifestyle. Watch a lot of documentaries, read books, etc on plant based diets and vegan lifestyle. Also just remember to replace instead of removing something completely or else you will end up binge eating something you were restricting yourself from eating and then will end up feeling really guilty.
Always there to help you. Happy transitioning.
~ Khushi
@@khushi.goyal005 brother I became vegetarian at age of 16
@@khushi.goyal005 This is the best guide. Thanks to you for taking out time to reply really properly and in detail and I am Vegan from past 3.5 years and agree to every bit of what you said. Thumbs up ✌
@@yashroda4911 Thank you!!! Let's do our bit to bring a change!!!! Cheers!!!
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Ramadan isn't fasting 😂, it's not eating anything for 12hr and then hogging food to compensate for the 12+12 hr.
Well, Thats how intermittent fasting work. You can't maintain stamina for long time without providing to your body in 1st place . By the way, after having a fast even for 12 hrs your stomach don't allow you to hogg on food. You will only eat lesser in ramadan compare to normal months. Many lose weight due to this.
Yes its unhealthy and people even gain weight after ramadan and also they smell bad
@@MoinKhan-uf4pg It will allow you to cram up the food even after fasting for 24 hours. You can look at lives of people following the same thing ex: Ben Greenfield.
Exactly, Ramadan isn’t fasting, just different eating pattern. And everybody does it together.
Real fasting is for 18+ hours
@@MoinKhan-uf4pg but you dont even drink water which is harmful even during intermittent fasting
He spoke about everything but never did he spoke about Animal suffering coz of our wants!
🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁
This podcast was a joke.
Don't think so much when you eat. Just end this debate!
He also didn't talk about plant suffering 😢
@@motiongreen4091 typical room temperature IQ. Plants don't have central nervous system, organs and pain receptors to suffer with pain. And if you care about plant suffering then remember that, animals are fed with plants and grains to raise and then ultimately slaughtered for human wants, so you are killing both, the plants as well as the animals.
Veganism is a lifestyle with the moto of ending animal cruelty.
"if it suits you", "what works for you".
Ever consider the animals pov?
Show some empathy and be Vegan, stop making excuses for animal abuse.
Agreed.
True
Well reducing the consumption of meat is better..
True
EXACTLY 👏
Personal choice ends when it involves harming an animal. periodt.
Pls make an entire podcast on veganism with earthling ed
This guy is complete show off. He has no real compassion within. He will never do a topic like veganism with the real ethical vegans coz he knows that then he will have to tweak his choices.
That would be awesome
Beer biceps himself is a scam...Can't expect quality content here
If you really wanna dig into what Veganism is, you should probably invite Earthling Ed on your podcast and have an open-minded conversation. Looking at Veganism from a lens of what's best-for-you(which is the very basis of Speciesism) is an extremely shallow way of approaching this topic. Also, if you can please refrain from generalizing the titles of your videos without really getting into the deep waters w.r.t. a particular topic, that would be really great as it would allow your audience to gain more clarity and accumulate less FUD.
Nevertheless, I thoroughly enjoy your podcasts. Looking forward to more amazing content!
Nope NOt earthling ed. Since this is about health. They should call Vegan athletes in India. Like Sandeep Kumar one of the Top Ultramarathon Runner. Kuntal Joisher Mountaineer who has climbed mount everest. International athelets and fitness gurus. Then doctors in India abroad who have healed almost every disease on a vegan or raw vegan diet.
Even Ayurvedic Vidya like Priyanka Vaidya who is a vegan Ayurvedic vaidya orthodox who can trace her lineage back to 750 years and from the last 500 years they stopped consuming dairy because it is written in the orthodox text that dairy is bad. It is not sattvic it is kapha producing and anyone that produces kapha cannot be sattvic. This is the biggest lie sold to us whey and when it started even they have no idea.
@@rawraj1578in hindu scriptures from ancient times fish was consumed, coastal people consumed that which was found 8n coastal regions, casteism is also very bad, one must stop it.
Energy is Energy. Electricity is a form of energy. Have some of that in your diet. You'll feel great.
Yes! He should take a Million Watts of it ! Aaya bada Energy is Energy wala. Well said bro 👍
Or sit on a stove
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Alag hi bijli hai iss reply mein. I love your reply, dude.👏👏👏👏👏
Phir toh junk food aur fruits bhi same energy Huyi na… idiots hai yeh
I completely disagree with him when he said energy is energy eating non veg energy is same as veg energy , instant change what i feel when i left non veg is my body is gotten lighter, my mind is calmer than it used to be . It is his perception eat veg , non veg everything is all same but it isnt ,he is telling all through "science" and diet based but their are so many thing science fails to explains. As per spiritual side vegetarian people energy is way more positive, deep and energetic than non vegetarian people what i feel
Which spiritual side? Indian spirituality? Are you trying to say catholics are not spiritual and are negative?
@@nerisalobo well considering thier actions in the crusades....
(its just a joke dont come at me)
@@harshitjaiswal5529 you think you'll are so pious and special given how you'll have been treating the lower castes and dalits so poorly? Your not the only one who can point fingers
@@nerisalobo i am obc 🤭 that lower castes treated poorly so you're tacs aren't applicable to me and it's not even close to the atrocities done by Brits, Portugese and Turks
@@harshitjaiswal5529 really? Must be some privliged OBC. Can you say the same about your ancestors? Oh wait, now that I think of it Jaiswals recently got added to the OBC/SC list that even in some states, no wonder. Also if you are not being treated so poorly why are you given reservation by the government? Give up your reservation rights and tell your fellow obcs to do the same. Also show me where are crusades being waged by catholics today? None! But yes caste based discrimination and atrocities are still committed even today, (speak about Dalits) if not with you then definitely others.
My parents in their 60s went vegan from eating meat and dairy.
Major athletes are vegan.
vegan or vegetarian there is a massive difference
You are wrong. Major athletes are not vegan
@@amitgupta25121993 So you haven't seen Game Changers or What the Health?
Most healthiest and long living people eat fish and non veg primarily.
E.g Japanese, mediterranean people, queen of England infact eats fish daily
@@user-ed7pu5uj3qit only has few athletes. If there is 1 vegan athlete 99 would be non vegans
I am vegan for health and for animals and I will stay that way .. whether or not it "suits" me .. of course it does
How do you take care of your vitamin b12 levels?
@@pranav_jethwa0 vegan b12 supplement
@@pranav_jethwa0 the B12 in the meat is fed to the animals through supplements. B12 naturally occurs in the soil (bacterias and all) and guess what, animals stored in large numbers aren't exactly given a good wholesome diet of grazing grass. Just crappy fodder and since it lacks in B12, the animals are given supplements.
It's not necessary that B12 deficiency of can be only to Vegans , mostly Vegetarian also lack B12 deficiency, btw B12 is not made by plants , it's actually made in soil or ground water which we people have made polluted by adding chemicals so the bacteria who made this B12 is no more that's why we need supplements or who says that meat provides us B12 , it's just because those animals also fed supplements through food and by injections.... Going Vegan is the best Decision ever i make , as Going Vegan won't only stop animal Cruelty but it also stopping global warming getting raise due to the gases emissioned by cattles in farms who are getting increased by artificially insemination
@@pranav_jethwa0 many people still get b12
You lost me in the first 10 seconds when you brought up "Eskimos". You and your audience are not Eskimos. Being vegan is not only about health (although it's one of the healthiest ways to eat, full stop), it's also about climate impact (no point in eating a certain way if the planet is inhabitable) and very importantly about animals and treating other beings in an empathetic way. This wasn't a debate, this was random anecdotes being thrown around.
I dont agree with this luke guy but mother nature has no place for mercy conpassion.
He also said “what works for you”. So your preaching is pointless, coz we can dismiss all your points on simple evolutionary grounds. If it works for you, it works for you.
This isn't a place for stupid comments
I agree with YOU
@@psaiprateek1417 Did mother nature tell you this?
I get his IQ when he starts comparing stuff with the desert cult.
So true
Hahahahahahaha true.
He needs to learn more about spirituality. One can't have KFC in one hand and yet preaching spirituality.
Who said? Stop enforcing, thts whats being said.😊
Be a better human being
1:03... Having compassion to animal suits me. I cannot live/sleep/eat if I am consuming something for which any sentient living being has suffered.
But this is life.. We eat animals and later animals eats us
@@endisnear306 so it's fine for you if someone kill any animal?? Right?
@@v2shredder not just any animal.. We eat what our ancestors ate.
@@endisnear306 why not?? They are cannibals too, so would u like to eat human flesh?
@@v2shredder lol my ancestors weren't cannibals.. Anyway cannibals are in minority
Running away from any reason as to why not to be Vegan. The decision which is good for the Animals, the enivironment, Human body and is single biggest solution of Huge concerns. Instead of discussing these really important points, choosing the Most selfish reason " What Suits You". Expected something bigger than that from a Guy like you Ranveer.
Over 70 Billion animals are killed each year in the name of food. Remember total human population in the world is 1/10 of the animals killed only in 1year. Almost all of them are factory farmed, fed lots of food, use a lot of resources and cause environmental damage to an extent that its the 2nd biggest contributor of global warming. They cause cruelity, Environment damage, health issues and what not, but still you manage to take a comfortable side for most of your neutral audience. Look for some people with deeper insights over all factor not just "What Suits you". As many things which suit you are not good for a greater cause and only being concern about oneself is the source of all injustice. Expect better from your show.
are you vegan or vegetarian?
@@ashishaher2194 I am a Vegan, and you are a fellow Vegan in attack mode 🤣
You can say that because you live in Tropical regions. Those who live in cold regions can't live on vegs all the time
@@MoinKhan-uf4pg Being Vegan means to harm the least as possible. if you are in survival situation, you will have to. But most people choose voilence in food by their choice. Might be including you. Are you from very region? or in survival situation?
@@yashroda4911 “health issues & what not” is an understatement friend. Meat has been proven to be responsible for a majority of the world’s top killers (food-borne chronic illness like heart disease, cancer & diabetes). & A whole food plant based diet is the only proven method of reversing those ailments
The environmental impact of raising farm animals and the cost it has on the planet is reason enough for people to switch to veganism. The health benefits that come with it will be a bonus. I used to like Luke but after listening to this nonsense I think I'm better off following other health experts and doctors in the west who are discovering the benefits of veganism and also spreading knowledge, unlike this video which makes no sense.
@Chetan Mahajan Absolutely bro due to this climate change heavy acid rains will happen later on earth and people will become cannibals eat each other when there will be nothing left to eat on earth. People who defend meat eating and dairy consumption are braindeads who don't want to understand anything except from their taste buds and wrong habits.
Follow rujuta diwekar
Agree totally . Have stopped following Luke after listening to the nonsense that he spoke in this interview. Vegan is the only way to go for our own health , ethics , morality , spirituality, planet and for the animals !
@@meeravishwakarma6645 I think Rujuta Diwekar’s recommendations are incorrect and have no scientific basis . I would recommend you to follow dr. Nandita Shah and Sharan . And also Satvik movement. They are incomparable.
@Jonathan Joestar, from your statements it’s clear that you have a very long way to go on all fronts . May God bless you . 🙏🏼
First of all Vegan is not just a diet , it would be more better had you guys discussed on the ethical stance and justice movement for animals of Veganism rather than just discussing it as a diet based .
Ya but not everyone is ready to accept that.
If someone is eating non vegetarian food from childhood, most probably they will make bullshit arguments, they want to see that where is their gain in Veganism so they didn't talk about justice...
You should delete your comment.
Well said!
True
Well said brother. Whoever wants to say whatever let them say. Ethical concept is a very important one. Let these hateful CarniWhores say whatever they want.
These hyper active personalities who just want to sell their products or themselves will never be able to explain a problem holistically.
Yeah, i felt that too, his "energy"was off beat😅
Bro just destroyed these 2 CZcamsrs careers 😎
Being Vegan is not a diet it’s a stance against animal cruelty.
Veganism is the number 1 quality which defines being human
It was very hard for me to not eat milk based products but when I get to know the actual reality, I completely stop eating those products. Any mother produces milk for ONLY their child. This is not cool or anything, this is called common sense and compassion.
If possible, please have a full podcast with Earthling Ed
exactly!!!
The suffering of billions of animals due to unnecessary choices is not perception but actual fact. How can one call themselves spiritual who can’t even understand the pain of sentient beings and consciously participate in their suffering, when they have a choice not to? Before someone jumps the gun, I am not talking about people living in the poles, or are stuck in an island.
Although veganism isn’t perfect, but the core principle is to reduce unnecessary suffering of sentient being who are just as capable feeling pain like a human being.
So now I should also feel sentient for the microbes that grow on plants and what about the other animals that feed on plants... What about the worms in the paddy fields being killed during rice harvesting.... What about the South american Rain forests being cut down for soy farming... Isnt that harming the animals living in them... And most importantly what about those innocent plants.... They grow seeds for their reproduction purpose and u eat those seeds(like soy Bean) ... U eat those baby plants and hinder their reproduction process... For gods sake let the plants Live🙄🙄
They are dum
Thanks Manmeet for taking out time to answer all of my questions. I do ask a lot of questions (I know) but its only with people who I find fascinating. Regarding the question on kids, what you shared is such a fresh perspective on this topic, I never saw it that way and you are so so right. Whatever we decide is a selfish choice that should make us happy. And why to have this sort of transaction in life where we are making babies so that we get something in return(in this case, if we take care of them now they would take care of us in future), love should be unconditional(if you are making babies you shouldn't have any expectations from them). You have changed my view completely on this topic and it was so so helpful. Thank you for enlightening me. You have given me direction which would help me make a better choice for my future and for that I am utterly grateful to you. I wish I could carry myself half as gracefully(and with so much wisdom) as you do when I am your age. You truly inspire me!!
The simple fact is that why I kill or harm a living being just for the desire of my taste... In future when a person eat another person for taste or for so called need of the diet, then I want to hear this spiritual perception of yours
,what would u say if someone eat a cow, cat or dog!! It would be same thing for them.. Why it Triggers you when someone kill an animal you like .. Be consistent ..go vegan if u don't wanna hurt animals otherwise don't feel sad if your beloved animals killed by some psycho for fun.. .
Absolutely
No problem with cow, I have beef quite often. But cat and dog just seems weird. I don't dink I will like their meat !
@@sayankundu2092 u don't have compassion for fellow earthlings i know that, but it doesn't mean u are superior to them , killing or eating a defenseless animal won't make U strong ok.
Having no compassion is a sign of weakling and you are one of them 🙂, that you are proud of..
@@v2shredder Grow up from your bubble, Beef is the third most consumed meat in the world, pork is the first and second chicken. Inuit people in live -50c weather in northern Canada, where 2 months is fully dark, They have been living there for 1000 years mostly on carnivore diet deer, bison and fish.
Why don't Tell Bears (Omnivore animal) only eat fruits and stop consuming meat. They only eats fruits when they don't enough meat.
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@@albertjoseph4604 i think u need to grow up buddy who is comparing a wild animals with a humans, they don't have privileges like human okk, stop acting or behaving like a 10 yr old child 😄, even they don't use this dumb logic that you are giving it right now
Please read the book "Becoming Vegan: The Complete Reference to Plant-Based Nutrition (Comprehensive Edition)" by Brenda Davis, RD and Vesanto Melina, MS RD for proper vegan nutrition guidance before becoming a vegan. Happy vegan journey!
He said there is no difference between spiritual energy of a non vegetarian spiritual leader and vegetarian spiritual leader , but my friend there is a lot of difference , vegetarian leaders are more calm and composed then those non vegetarian spiritual leaders.
Sufis are calm spiritual leaders.
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It won't be long before some people will start saying they are spiritual but love killing people.
Exactly.. preach only things yoi know about. Dude is being nice to all customers :P
Lord Krishna has clearly mentioned it in bhagwat gita about tamsik , rajsik and satvik foods and lifestyle which impacts our spiritual journey .
This guy is pure rajas personified.
Not everyone wants to be spiritual
I can understand for people who are living in such areas where they need to survive on non veg. But in country like India mother nature has given you soo many health and delicious veg options. If you still can't control ur craving to eat a innocent life... U r just a servant of your senses.
So true
But meat is love 🙂🤗
No veg food compares to nonveg
@@caption6633 Yes meat is love, but these people will not understand how delicious a human hand and fingers are. Anyway, bro do you know any good human meat restaurant in Bengaluru?
@@harshverma3548 o man how cool you are !!!!!! ✌️
It’s not about you always! Empathy towards others is always to be considered first! This guy knows nothing about veganism.
Ofc , empathy towards other humans . I don't give a F*** about non human animals .
Why would you put animals above people?
Whats veganism, Its a diet of rich people.
U guys dont even have any empathy towards fellow humans, otherwise casteism and gender inequality wouldnt be present
Utterly nonsensical, almost nauseating !! [ detailed points below ]
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1) No mention of Gut microbiome flora which gets worse on non veg diet. The reason why some people feel good "for few days" switching back to Nonveg diet is because the nonveg/dairy are readily available for absorption by the body while the veg food takes a while to get absorbed. Remember that your body adapts to it slowly - and all this magic is being done by the gut microbiome which takes time to develop . Depending on how diverse food you are eating. - if you are eating just processed or whole plant based food etc. So there goes the atgument of some people feeling better on Nonveg diet - it is NEVER sustainable healthwise in longer term(read decades). Nonveg contains ZERO fiber and hence no food to eat for the good microbiome to thrive( fiber not just needed for digestion, but it is the food of good microbiome)
2) Carbs are not bad. STOP MAKING CARBS A VILLAIN . Carbs are what made our brains grow than other animals, foods containing carbs are what makes our gut microbiome thrive(fiber again ) and kick our good neurotransmitters(crossinng blood brain barrier mechanism). The Villain is "Processed Carbs" - like sugar, pastries etc. Not the whole food . The thumb rule - never eat anything which is separated and extracted from the source - eg oil, sugar etc.
3) You are right about propaganda/Lobby being made about BP etc. But you are also a victim of same dairy/beef/chicken industry propoganda when you recommend it just because some improvements in parameters [ read-NOT-health](cause of ready absorption of nutrients) for few weeks/years . Reducing weight is not improving health. There are TONS of other parameters - one has to think holistically. Not just to build muscles and to reduce weight. You fail to highlight tons of other deceases which are caused by dairy and nonveg. (From autoimmune to cancer )
Its like this - I serve you a nice delicious food piece which is floating out there in a gutter - and put it on your plate -- would you eat it? No right? Why? cause it contains lot of germs/harmful things which were floating in gutter. Exact same thing with nonveg and dairy - lot of antibiotics, toxins, carcinogenic substances, mercury etc - are contained in that. The quantity of bad surpasses good. In the long run your body, mind will give up getting rid / flushing out these toxins - they will accumulate and you fall sick or develop a horrible decease. [ which you will blame on old age or pollution - not knowing you caused it - thats point number 4 below ]
4) Total ignorance of the environmental factors here. This is almost criminal to think only about your health in isolation and not care about planet. You don't exist in a different universe. If you take planet down - you go down. Continue to admire your no-carbs abs for few years in mirror for few years while deforestation caused by animal and dairy farming causes death of all living beings in just few decades from now.
Such a short sightedness is almost nauseating !
5) I am not even touching ethical side of being a whole plant based food vs nonveg/dairy. [ read murder/rape - in that order] . Thats for another day - he is clearly wrong though in spirituality too - but it will take me long text to say how .
PS :
b12 is not produced by animals.
Calcium is not made by cows.
Omega3 is not made by fish
These all come from veggies these animals,fishes eat.
Stop filtering your food through dead bodies. Eat the source.
Absolutely right… ❤
Next time if you want to talk about Veganism. Talk to :-
1) Menaka Gandhi
2) Acharya Prashant
im a vegetarian because as the most intelligent creature on this planet it is my responsibility to cause least violence as possible because i can cause a lot of destruction.
Vegetarian food gives satva guna
Non veg gives tamoguna.
It will affect your meditation for sure.
Lustful and angry thoughts increase when you eat non veg.
Generally in your daily life if you are doing meditation and not following bhramacharya and cutting off social life and other things then you wont feel much difference.
But if u follow strict bhramacharya and other things you will feel the difference.
Great dear
@Rahul Porte Grow up from your bubble, Beef is the third most consumed meat in the world, pork is the first and second chicken. Inuit people in live -50c weather in northern Canada, where 2 months is fully dark. They have been living there for 1000 years mostly on carnivore diet deer, bison and fish.
What do you think about Blood group diet
Hi Ramveer, kindly make a episode on supplements and it's impact on health.
Since a lot of people don't know I will mention here if you want to be vegan-
Supplement -
1.B12 (2000 mcg two times a week)
2. Vitamin d3 (400 IU) daily. Unless you roam naked in sun.
3. EPA DHA algae supplement (even if you eat flax seeds daily)
4. Replace normal salt with iodised salt. (Unless you eat sea vegetables like kelp daily)
Eat beans lentils for protein. And everything else is quite easy. It would be hard for you if-
1. You are an milk addict. (Milk replacement products are not healthy.)
2. You are a junk addict. Veganism by default is not healthy unless you eat whole foods.
Reasons people can have problems -
1. Eating or having coconut oil or coconut milk. Very high in saturated fat can cause heart disease.
2. Not eating seeds like sunflower seeds, flax seeds, pumpkin seeds, chia seeds. To be eaten in grinded form. Otherwise body won't absorb it.
3. People choose not to supplement the above and try natural sources of b12 which doesn't work.
4. Not eating 3-5 times a day. Some people eat only once and snack or not eating variety like carrots, greens etc.
Best of luck if you are trying to be on vegan diet.
@edgar allan hoe yea you are right only if you are eating seeds only and you know that you are chewing them. Otherwise people add seeds in the food and often they don't get broken down in mouth and so for superior absorption.
Don't use Science and spirituality in the same sentence; they are like oxymorons.
Santh kabir das also belonged to islam. What did he say about meat eating? Lets quote him.
" Maans maans sab ek hai, mugi hirni gaay. Jo nar isko khay hai so nar narak hi jaay"
"Kabira teri jhopdi gal katiyan k paas, jo karey so bharey tu kyun hot udaas"
"Til bhar macchli khaike koti gau de daan. Kashi karwat le marey to bhi narak nidaan"
Great video and great answer
Just bcz you can doesn't mean you should ❤
Wat do you mean by what suits you??? It's about compassion... live and let other live
How would veganism help in that... So now I should also feel sentient for the microbes that grow on plants and what about the other animals that feed on plants... What about the worms in the paddy fields being killed during rice harvesting.... What about the South american Rain forests being cut down for soy farming... Isnt that harming the animals living in them... And most importantly what about those innocent plants.... They grow seeds for their reproduction purpose and u eat those seeds(like soy Bean) ... U eat those baby plants and hinder their reproduction process... For gods sake let the plants Live🙄🙄
Nice talk.......just want to know if your guest has done any research on whether tattoos are harmful or not to the human body.
Thanks for your interesting projects
The fact that other religions don't have the concept of the Spiritualism.
Dude is like I know him/her who switched back to meat eating as if eating meat is part of who they're and vegetarianism is something which is forced upon people.
Bhai Haryana aja. 80%-90% people are Vegetarian aur Olympic Medal producing belt hai India ki. Tallest Indians are from Punjab and Haryana.
Goa se kitne medal aa gaye? NE people eat meat and win medals in Olympics but the numbers are not even close to those of Punjab and Haryana.
Vegetarianism is in the DNA of us Indians, ekdum shudh shakahari koi milawat nhi.😈😎
This is the most well handled answer i have heard about veganism vs other diets.
I have tried to go vegetarian atleast 5 times in my life, by choice and after 3 months my TSH shoots up, my hair falls like crazy, and i get anemic. And i am a doctor and a nutrition enthusiast so i know how to balance a diet. But eventhough i workout daily n walk atleast 6-8k steps everyday in addition, i put on fat more on a vegetarian diet. Bcoz my body thrives on a high protein diet. And in order to get that much protein from a vegetarian diet, you consume excess of calories and carbs. Bcoz every plant protein haa significant carbs in proportion.
So basically, everyone responds differently and it should be a choice. Whatever works for u, gives u physical and mental health, is what is right for u
Well said. Thank you.
If you are a doctor, I am Einstein. People have been consuming vegetarian diet for millenia and have lived perfectly fine. You are only trying to spread misinformation.
@@phoenix007ism ohh sweetheart, dont be triggered by it. vegetarianism is supposed to increase spiritual awareness as well, that should make u more malleable to understand others' point of view, instead of seeing everything in binary. its unfortunately not black n white n if u re-read my reply u would understand that even though i really wanted to be on a vegetarian diet, it didnt suit my health. so, to each their own. prace and light to you my friend.
@@utkarsharanjan4160 Yes but maybe you did not do it correctly. I would blame your choice of vegetarian foods and not vegetarianism itself. If you eat samosas all day, you would obviously not be healthy, even though its vegetarian.
@@mayankdewli1010 hahahaha. I m amazed at how toxic you are. I am a doctor and a certified ayurvedic nutritionist and dietician. I spent 6months learning ayurvedic body types and diet and yoga accordingly. I practice integrated medicine and i have switched my patients to vegetarianism for their health. Atleast ask once what i ate or say hey maybe u shud do it under expert supervision once and that might help. There is a lot of way of promoting and preaching something and it doesn't have to be all negative and toxic. It can be gentle and positive as well. Hope u find it in u to be open to opinion other than yours. Peace and light.
He speaks sense. I’ve always said your body tells you what it’s need are and what it wants you to eat.
Yes, they are different in spiritual energy. They didn't attain moksh. Just notice the difference in the teachings of BK Shivani and Zakir Naik. They have different spiritual energy.
By the way, B K Shivani has mentioned in one of her videos that Satvik food leads to divinity, purity, peace and happiness. We cannot consume food that has violence and death if we want peace and good health. Why cause suffering to sentient beings and chop dead bodies to eat if we can survive on plants.
This guy needs some serious lessons.
Stop giving the view that Ramadan means fasting for a month.
It’s just that it’s shifting the eating from daytime to nighttime for a month!
Yes, it’s fasting during the day and eating during nighttime!
it is infact FEASTING like never before for some in the night.
Ramadan was coined by moohamhad, fasting was just to prepare Muslims to fight against kaffirs and mushreeks.
Vegab is best lifestyle as it chnged my life completely and whole sole is very healthier choice for pcos n many other harmonal desease
I like him. It’s so true, spiritually is not a one size fits all.
Good
Stop seeing the people who don't know about nutrition and environment and as well as humanity...you are influenced by his good spoken English..ye bharat hai or angrez ja chuke hai 80-90 saal phle.
अवश्यमेव भोक्तव्यं कृतं कर्मं शुभा शुभम् 🕉️
A Gentle Reminder to all Non Vegetarians 🙏🏻
Means ?
@@rakrak445Means as you sow so shall you reap. If you pay for animal abuse, you can't imagine the pain you will go through in future. So be vegan. Be compassionate enough to ditch products obtained through murder, violence and blood shed.
@@religionofpeace782 mere profile dekho vegan hi hun tum vegan bano
Vegan for the animals and the environment. Spirituality starts with compassion.
Well said
Animals eat animals bcz it is the only fuel source for them. They are not humans who can cook food neither it will suit them. We humans have the power to procure plant based sources n cook them accordingly and with power comes responsibility. Responsibility of not inflicting pain to animals bcz we can survive w/o non veg.
And he’s saying it’s a fad n peer pressure. No! Vegans are vegans bcz they feel for animals which all people should.
You can't force everyone to feel same about animal. Those who eat they will eat.
Breathing Air someone else has already breath? What are you talking about bruh? We take in oxygen given by plants. Is it evan a frickin doubt?
Get the energy but not at the cost of anything by saying whatever suits you, but right kind of living where there is more compassion.
After reading a lot of comments I am writing this.
1) Non veg, do more harm than good, antibiotics, growth hormones. Milk is meant for growth of cows baby, which will have heavy growth hormones, to fight these hormones body generates antibodies, these damage your thyroid gland. Milking makes cows feel stress & these stress hormones r also in milk. To an extent butter milk is fine bcoz microbes break hormones.
So what are the alternatives, for milk, go for peanut milk, ragi milk, coconut milk. I don't suggest soy milk.
For protein, non veg is a big myth. Digestive system breaks protein into amino acids(AA). So you need AAs not protein. Any fruit will supply AAs(essential & non essential). By cooking, veggies will lose AAs, raw veggies also supply AAs. So protein is a big myth. With fruits you are reducing digestive load also.
2) B12 - your gut microbes make a lot of vitamins including b12. If you are deficient in b12 that means you have probiotic imbalance. So b12 intake is not a solution, improve gut microbes with partridge.
What caused probiotic imbalance ? Your antibiotic use & nonveg(including eggs). One chicken leg piece is equivalent to augmentin duo anti biotic tab.
3) fish oil - alternatives r ghee & flaxseed oil.
4) salt - go with sea salt. Table salt is biproduct of petrolium extract. Himalayan salt, mineral composition depends on the mining location so sea salt has a uniform mineral composition.
5) Last karma, your health is totally linked with karma, your nutrient obsorption is also depends on your karma. So dissolve your karma by meditation. For that 1) PMC 2) SUSHMNA KRIYA YOGA 3) MASTER CVV will help.
I'm vegetarian I like to live my life as a vegetarian but unable to find life partner 😢😢
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Then why are you here you are on wrong channel
@@DhruvPatel-iw8xi because I'm hard core fan Of Ranveer (Beer Biceps 💪)
I learnt lot's of valuable things from this channels
@@meta-minds3.311 But that doesn't mean that you comment your relationship status here it's not dating app. People are talking about health and fitness here
@@DhruvPatel-iw8xi what's your problem bro
It's not your channel ryt
So Don't talk unnecessarily
Mind your own business
Luke Coutinho's take on spirituality is questionable, the whole point of compassion or empathy which is the essence of spiritualism is consideration for other living things, it is about not harming other beings or causing them to suffer in the pursuit of our needs. The commandment "'Thou shalt not Kill"' did not specify that it is applicable only to humans, also remember God's kingdom is imagined as place where tigers and deers live together in peace . So why not try to replicate it right here (atleast between humans and animals) on earth if you have access to vegetarian food. Humans are Omnivores , some take that as an opportunity to be kind and others take it as license to kill.
I can understand Eskimos not having the chance to be kind because of their habitat but others who do can ought to try their best. How can people feel for their pets but at the same time not care about animals raised for meat, who are confined and separated from their young and eventually slaughtered ? A dog and a pig have comparable intelligence, infact a pig is more intelligent than a dog as far as I know. Also remember, cattle are more powerful than humans, they can be domesticated only because they trust us or they could easily trample or gore people to death. Using them and slaughtering them mercilessly is an ultimate betrayal of their trust. Not only cattle, all animals deserve kindness but I gave this example only illustrate betrayal. People who fail at veganism do so because they don't inform themselves fully and do it wrong. I am disappointed in you Ranveer for not rebutting Luke's take on spirituality logically.
Same here… they lost respect for me
If Vegans are lactose intolerant did they not drink their Mothers feed when they were born…😂
People are doing un natural things . People are like , "I will do party tonight and then will take detox drink tomorrow I won't consume fats " and they keep themselves on juices , starves themselves . This won't work because every nutrition like carbs , essential fats has its own role doings daily physical and mental duties , and keeping body healthy
Next time please bring smart guy, Noone interested to listen frustrated Guys. Better this guy eat more veggies to calm his brain cells.
This guy is complete show off. He has no real compassion within. He will never do a topic like veganism with the real ethical vegans coz he knows that then he will have to tweak his choices.
WOW..
Main problem nowadays is large scale factory farming and the use of chemicals everywhere. Animal products should be fresh and pasture raised - then they have positve health effects on humans too....
"It is not what goes in through mouth that is bad because it goes out anyway, but what comes out through mouth as it comes from the heart like evil thoughts, murder, adultery,theft, false testimony, sexual immorality, slander" yes what he said is right all religion but no change for better in an individual means it is chasing after the wind.
Yogi Ranvir’s bubble Busted again😆! First by Basu sir, and now by luke coutinho
3:24 3:34 damnnn! Just factssss! Damn!
Can not eat non veg because I know how it has come to my plate, it has come from a butcher house where animal full of tear(they know what is going to happen with them) forced to coveyer belts leading then to be killed for someone's taste or so called protine requirements.
There are enough grains for me, from which delicious dishes can be made.
Let's do what is right and what feels right too!
I disagree with Luke on this one. A huge part of spirituality is compassion. The feeling of cosmic oneness is driven by compassion and kindness. You cant be selectively compassionate towards one species and not towards another just because we're hard coded to consume meat. I am not denying that you cant be spiritual if you are a meat eater. But, from personal experience I've been able to attain higher planes of consciousness and connectedness when on pure vegetarian diet.
Ranveer I think you are gaining WEIGht ....you should start working out again ....we want our beer biceps again
You should bring Acharya Prashant In your show
Luke could you speak on tocotrianol as a supplement!
Veganism does not work most of Bengali people. We generally feel weak and lethargic, of we do not eat any non veg for more than one day.Why veganism is only limited to India? Because this happens with most of the world. Not only Muslims and Christians, Buddhist spiritual leaders also eat non veg and Buddhism is probably the most peaceful religion.
Honestly he doesn't make much sense.
Veganism is important
Bhai agr hum dairy products use nhi krenge to cow's,etc. Ki take care koi kyu hi krega fir to vo or aawara ghumengi or non vegetarian k pet m jaygngi
@@bhavyasaini586 phele to cows ko animals farm me jaanbujkar breed karte ha jab ye dudh Dene layak nahi hoti tab ya slaughter house me ya sadko me hoti ha . Cows sadko me hoti hi isliye ha kyuki hum dairy products use karte ha
Yes
@@vinay249Ekdum sahi kaha vinay bhai
This is when your ignorance gets a stamp of approval from the society..
His way of character and behaviour says he fails his meditation everytime he did
I see lots of vegans flooding the comments and shoving veganism on everyone's face 😂
It’s a video about veganism, what do you expect? For vegans to not chime in?
Most non sence and senseless video. Btw can you name those people you know who switched from veganism to meat eating?
me 👋🏻
Miley Cyrus switched to eating meat from veganism
Sab short short mai batao yar itne lambe lambe paragraph kyu likh rahe ho
eg- panner pakoda is better than chicken pakoda
Being sick is better than making someone suffer .
Respectfully disagree with Luke here.
And he barks about spirituality.
Without being vegan you can't be spiritual
Vegetarian is not vegan 🤡
Why the animal perspective not taken into account by humans, more than health or environment. Why are animals viewed as food? Humans don't eat their humans companions in colder areas, coz it's the same tribe. It's survival issues for them, hence they look out for weaklings of a different tribe. If there weren't any animals for Eskimos, what would they resort to? Weaklings of their own tribe? People who have a million ethical options, can easily guage and train their minds and bodies into a vegetarian diet. And veganism is pure bliss, for animals, and eventually for us. Let's keep the animal choice to live, as an obvious perspective on top priority. That animal is weak, innocent, feels intense pain, is at our mercy. A person who truly meditates, and knows the whole karmic process, will treat animals as our fellow buddies rather than food. That's being mindful and conscious.