I would imagine as the Krell machine was pumping out the amps into Morbius's Id monster so it could burn/melt its way through the door metal it was was making everything the other side all crispy toasted, and smokey. The house would probably be well lit.
Id (イド, Ido) is a character and antagonist in Xenogears. He is a powerful, destructive being that antagonizes the party multiple times. Id possesses a relentless drive to destroy, and like many characters, he is tied to Fei Fong Wong's forgotten past. So, probably some sick martial arts combo.
This Id scared the crap out me and my brothers when I was about 11 years old. It was on tv on a saturday as a Midday Movie about 1971 during school holidays and we didn't sleep very well that night. Absolutely loved Anne Francis, as we had seen her in other shows, but this was one of her early ones.
😊 One of the best Sci-fi films, along with This Island Earth, Conquest of Space, Them, Rocketship XM, The Thing from Outer Space, to name but a few, way before CGI, I prefer these to the big budget films of today, I was born the year after this came out.
I think this movie influenced Roddenberry. Certainly Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. In one episode you can see an alien teen with pointed ears. I think it's the one with Michael Rennie. Originally the Enterprise was to have two stages one being a detachable saucer hull which would land on the surface. However this was to expensive to do each week so the transporter FX was created instead. This first FX would have looked like the landing of the United Planets Space Cruiser. Also note how similar this sounds to United Federation of Planets.
you realize of course, that Morbius' subconscious mind could have simply materialized the monster inside the room already lol. It didn't have to get through all that Krell Metal. But maybe, his mind preferred the theater of it all 😄
Monsters from the ID the subconscious mind. We are the creators from our thoughts, beliefs creating the ‘reality’ we see & think is real. An amazing film as I loved as a kid & even more so now, realising what this actually means & to a degree what we are capable of
Noted by the author Kingsley Amis during his lecture series at Princeton in 1958. Also noted (perhaps independently?) by the film critic Pauline Kael. Great minds think alike.
@@chrisjennings5680 No the Leftist Socialist Democrats and their Antifa thugs are the monsters and over the past several decades they have done a fine job at destroying this country, our education sucks, and they have thrown open our borders allowing criminal scum to flood into this country.
Absolutely love the movie, but over time I realised one potential fallacy in this scene: The all powerful machine should have been able to materialise the ID monster inside the laboratory, without it having to burn through the door, but of course, that would have made for a far less dramatic and suspense filled sequence.
@@panagea2007 Being of a fictitious nature, it would be pure, unsubstantiated conjecture as to whether it was a force, as in "Use the Force, Morbius", or a synthetic intelligence. However, for the sake of argument, let's assume it was a mindless beast controlled by Morbius' subconscious. As such, I would argue that since Morbius' subconscious IQ had been boosted higher than his conscious self, thereby allowing it to control the machine, we are talking about one hell of an intelligent ID. Therefore, I would also suggest that his subconscious could only direct the invisible monster to Morbius' location if it knew where he and the others were hiding. If so, then it could have just as easily made the moanster materialise within the lab. Morbius' conscious self knowing what his sinister subconscious was up to, is not a prerequisite for the above stated scenario to work.
@@johndzwon1966 Except the Id was not intelligent. It operated purely on animal instinct, so it would not know to teleport itself. It had to walk and stalk its prey and physically attack. We see in each appearance of the beast that it does not reason but simply acts. The darker emotions are expressed without reasoning behind them, from the more primitive parts of the brain and not from the higher reasoning centres. A person in an all-consuming rage state lashes out and is no more capable of conscious thought than a rabid dog. The same would be true of the Id Monster. The Krell machine would manifest it, give it form and power it with its energies but once it had taken form it would only act and respond as any beast would, and it could not control the power of the machine to the extent of willing itself to materialise anywhere.
The monster becomes manifest just as Morbius accepts the basic idea that the Krell’s supreme technological achievement (becoming beings without the need of instrumentalities) was their own nemesis. At that point his ID monster is activated because his conscious mind now has some vague idea where the Captain is going with his explanation of the deaths; since the Captain landed and twenty years ago. Morbius argues that the Krell all died thousands of years ago to counter the Captains explanation. At this point he is more and more aware of the source of the monsters motivations. The Id Monster is now on a mission to destroy the Captain for three reasons. Firstly it is to kill the object of his daughters earthy love (sick i know) and secondly to prevent the bearing of his own motivations to his daughter & to some extent the Captain (who he clearly has a grudging respect for). Finally, he is terrified of learning his own true nature; he ashamed and terrified of himself. You can see the final point play out once they are in the laboratory. He is clearly ashamed with his head lowered crying into his arm on the desk. He then confronts his ID Monster and denies or/ himself even though he is terrified of it/ himself. The reason the ID Monster does not simply appear next to them in the laboratory is because a Morbius is in denial of his own nature. Therefore e Morbius puts barriers up to keep the monster away. He wants to distance himself from it (Robbie detects it outside of the house initially) and it’s dark anger and desires. He normally tries to keep it out of the house because that is where his daughter sleeps. He also uses the 26 inch thick Krell metal door as a way of protecting his conscious self and his daughter from the vile ID monster. The door is melted and holes are pushed through it as a metaphor for what it wants to do (let’s leave that metaphor unspoken). This creates a feeling of utter revulsion in Morbius and gives him the courage to renounce his ID Monster. The ID Monster attacks Morbius to try to destroy the conscious self which is preventing it from doing what it wants. As Morbius dies he effectively gives his blessing to his Daughter and the Captains union by telling to destroy the planet.
"The all powerful machine should have been able to materialise the ID monster inside the laboratory, " No I disagree. Every time the monster of the id appears it was out in the open... recall the three attacks on the spaceship. All attacks originated outdoors. The attack on the home and laboratory was no exception. It would appear the id monster was fueled by a power source that needed a direct unimpeded contact, at least initially. It might not work behind 26 inches of Krell metal... almost as bad as AM radio in a tunnel. LOL Thoughts?
I know I'll undoubtedly attract vilification by this comment (and perhaps, it's already been made), but that much heat would not have made it possible for them to have remained so close to it.
It's interesting that this clip cuts out the id-monster's attack on Morbius, himself. PC editing at work! Desiring death as both restitution for the comrades he'd unknowingly murdered and to protect his daughter from himself, he stood there, deliberately making himself an obstacle to the monster. The invisible monster picked him up and slammed him against the wall. The original movie showed this in graphic detail. I guess it had to be removed for CZcams.
I have seen the old original film shown via film projectors multiple times in movie theaters, going back 47 years, and not once did I see Morbius get thrown against a wall. If such an event was filmed, it must have been edited out a long time ago. Perhaps there is some surviving print of this (?) or documentation from old original notes on production? Have you actually seen it? I know there were some early ideas in the screenplay which were either excised or never actually filmed -- like an explanation of how Altaira's telepathic connection to her tiger kept it docile. Connection broken when she gets romantic with the Captain. They also filmed a wedding between Adams and Altaira on board the ship for the very end of the movie. Don't believe that ever made it into the final cut.
Great movie but I just couldn't stop thinking about the original Ghostbusters film and Dan Ackroyds character imagining the Stay Puft Marshmallow man. Why didnt Morbious think of something a little less monstrous..😂
The middle school romance sub plot doesn’t hold up well and in the future I guess we don’t allow women to serve on spaceships, but everything else holds up pretty well.
After all these decades FORBIDDEN PLANET is still one of the greatest sci fi story ever !! 😃😃😃
Totally agree with you 👍👍
It might be the greatest.
1956? So way ahead of its time. Great acting, story, special effects, soundtrack. A timeless masterpiece.
great acting?!?! Worst acting i have ever seen especially from the girl. Truly atrocious. But story was great and effects too for that time.
This scene was made far greater by NOT showing what was happening on the other side of the door. You have to imagine it.
Common ploy and it works.
I would imagine as the Krell machine was pumping out the amps into Morbius's Id monster so it could burn/melt its way through the door metal it was was making everything the other side all crispy toasted, and smokey. The house would probably be well lit.
It was made visible earlier in the movie.
Id (イド, Ido) is a character and antagonist in Xenogears. He is a powerful, destructive being that antagonizes the party multiple times.
Id possesses a relentless drive to destroy, and like many characters, he is tied to Fei Fong Wong's forgotten past.
So, probably some sick martial arts combo.
Greatest 1950s science fiction movie ever made!
Brilliant for it's time and still stands up today
"We're all part monsters in our minds" Brilliant! The whole movie is amazing...still after more than a HALF CENTURY.
Just an utterly brilliant sci-fi movie. Masterpiece.
Great little touch from 1:26 you can see the chevrons lighting up as the monster uses more and more power
The big daddy of all modern sci-fi films that followed
This Id scared the crap out me and my brothers when I was about 11 years old. It was on tv on a saturday as a Midday Movie about 1971 during school holidays and we didn't sleep very well that night. Absolutely loved Anne Francis, as we had seen her in other shows, but this was one of her early ones.
First seeing this as a kid, my young mind was confused by the subconscious monster but I was thrilled by the look of it all!
😊 One of the best Sci-fi films, along with This Island Earth, Conquest of Space, Them, Rocketship XM, The Thing from Outer Space, to name but a few, way before CGI, I prefer these to the big budget films of today, I was born the year after this came out.
Anne Francis looks delicious in this movie.
Just one more visual treat for 1950s moviegoers. :)
Leslie Nielsen aka Commander Adams would have been a great star trek captain.
I agree.
I think this movie influenced Roddenberry. Certainly Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. In one episode you can see an alien teen with pointed ears. I think it's the one with Michael Rennie. Originally the Enterprise was to have two stages one being a detachable saucer hull which would land on the surface. However this was to expensive to do each week so the transporter FX was created instead. This first FX would have looked like the landing of the United Planets Space Cruiser. Also note how similar this sounds to United Federation of Planets.
@@tracywilliams7929The Planetary Union or United Planets or United Federation of Planets.
@@theinvisibleman2070 Also a great police sergeant and detective lieutenant of the Police Squad task force.
And don't call me Shirley!
I was going to say that
"I Just Want To Tell You Both, Good Luck. We’re All Counting On You."
Great movie, way ahead of its time. Must have freaked people out in 1956. Apparently Gene Roddenberry was inspired by Forbidden Planet.
He clearly stole the transporter idea.
"The Great Machine" and a massive super construction sounds a lot like "The Great Journey" from Halo
i was born in 1953 and it certainly freaked me out when I saw it - I was terrified by the monster.
Forbidden planet had some of the best space futurism uniforms and Lazer guns
you realize of course, that Morbius' subconscious mind could have simply materialized the monster inside the room already lol. It didn't have to get through all that Krell Metal. But maybe, his mind preferred the theater of it all 😄
Monsters from the ID the subconscious mind. We are the creators from our thoughts, beliefs creating the ‘reality’ we see & think is real. An amazing film as I loved as a kid & even more so now, realising what this actually means & to a degree what we are capable of
A genuine classic.
This is a scifi version of Shakespeare"s The Tempest.
Yes, and brilliantly done.
Noted by the author Kingsley Amis during his lecture series at Princeton in 1958. Also noted (perhaps independently?) by the film critic Pauline Kael. Great minds think alike.
The first REAL sci-fi movie.
You need to watch Things to Come or When Worlds Collide or The Day the Earth Stood Still. But yes this is fabulous!
I recently found a 10 inch replica of Robbie the Robot. I'd like to get one of Gort from the day the earth stood still.
Iconic....
Absolutely on a different level❤ every facet of production has was genius. For this film all the stars in the universe aligned.
If you saw this in the theater when it first came out on the big screen the melting door was such a great effect it looked so real
Today in 2023 our monsters from the ID are called politicians
Not all politicians, just the Republican ones.
@@chrisjennings5680 seriously, after the shit show clown car the Dems have turned this lawless country into, stop drinking the Liberal-Aide...
@@chrisjennings5680 No the Leftist Socialist Democrats and their Antifa thugs are the monsters and over the past several decades they have done a fine job at destroying this country, our education sucks, and they have thrown open our borders allowing criminal scum to flood into this country.
@@chrisjennings5680 and Democrats. Nearly all of them
A lot of them are functional psychopaths, Left? Right? They're just directions, each as stupid as the other, at least by itself.
Danger! Danger! Be careful Will Robinson 😅
Oh the pain the pain
Absolutely love the movie, but over time I realised one potential fallacy in this scene: The all powerful machine should have been able to materialise the ID monster inside the laboratory, without it having to burn through the door, but of course, that would have made for a far less dramatic and suspense filled sequence.
It was really a force of hate, not intelligence. For it to appear inside the lab, Morbeus would have to realize that he was creating it.
@@panagea2007 Being of a fictitious nature, it would be pure, unsubstantiated conjecture as to whether it was a force, as in "Use the Force, Morbius", or a synthetic intelligence. However, for the sake of argument, let's assume it was a mindless beast controlled by Morbius' subconscious. As such, I would argue that since Morbius' subconscious IQ had been boosted higher than his conscious self, thereby allowing it to control the machine, we are talking about one hell of an intelligent ID. Therefore, I would also suggest that his subconscious could only direct the invisible monster to Morbius' location if it knew where he and the others were hiding. If so, then it could have just as easily made the moanster materialise within the lab.
Morbius' conscious self knowing what his sinister subconscious was up to, is not a prerequisite for the above stated scenario to work.
@@johndzwon1966 Except the Id was not intelligent. It operated purely on animal instinct, so it would not know to teleport itself. It had to walk and stalk its prey and physically attack. We see in each appearance of the beast that it does not reason but simply acts. The darker emotions are expressed without reasoning behind them, from the more primitive parts of the brain and not from the higher reasoning centres. A person in an all-consuming rage state lashes out and is no more capable of conscious thought than a rabid dog. The same would be true of the Id Monster. The Krell machine would manifest it, give it form and power it with its energies but once it had taken form it would only act and respond as any beast would, and it could not control the power of the machine to the extent of willing itself to materialise anywhere.
The monster becomes manifest just as Morbius accepts the basic idea that the Krell’s supreme technological achievement (becoming beings without the need of instrumentalities) was their own nemesis. At that point his ID monster is activated because his conscious mind now has some vague idea where the Captain is going with his explanation of the deaths; since the Captain landed and twenty years ago. Morbius argues that the Krell all died thousands of years ago to counter the Captains explanation. At this point he is more and more aware of the source of the monsters motivations. The Id Monster is now on a mission to destroy the Captain for three reasons. Firstly it is to kill the object of his daughters earthy love (sick i know) and secondly to prevent the bearing of his own motivations to his daughter & to some extent the Captain (who he clearly has a grudging respect for). Finally, he is terrified of learning his own true nature; he ashamed and terrified of himself. You can see the final point play out once they are in the laboratory. He is clearly ashamed with his head lowered crying into his arm on the desk. He then confronts his ID Monster and denies or/ himself even though he is terrified of it/ himself. The reason the ID Monster does not simply appear next to them in the laboratory is because a Morbius is in denial of his own nature. Therefore e Morbius puts barriers up to keep the monster away. He wants to distance himself from it (Robbie detects it outside of the house initially) and it’s dark anger and desires. He normally tries to keep it out of the house because that is where his daughter sleeps. He also uses the 26 inch thick Krell metal door as a way of protecting his conscious self and his daughter from the vile ID monster. The door is melted and holes are pushed through it as a metaphor for what it wants to do (let’s leave that metaphor unspoken). This creates a feeling of utter revulsion in Morbius and gives him the courage to renounce his ID Monster. The ID Monster attacks Morbius to try to destroy the conscious self which is preventing it from doing what it wants. As Morbius dies he effectively gives his blessing to his Daughter and the Captains union by telling to destroy the planet.
Gary Myers, John Dzwon, Lord Zontar and High Voltage Switcher - that is a very intelligent back and forth analysis. Congrats and thanks, Andrea.
Watched this movie liked the sound effects all in all a very good movie
"The all powerful machine should have been able to materialise the ID monster inside the laboratory, " No I disagree. Every time the monster of the id appears it was out in the open... recall the three attacks on the spaceship. All attacks originated outdoors. The attack on the home and laboratory was no exception. It would appear the id monster was fueled by a power source that needed a direct unimpeded contact, at least initially. It might not work behind 26 inches of Krell metal... almost as bad as AM radio in a tunnel. LOL Thoughts?
You could also say that because the creature was from Morbius' subconscious the door represented his conflict in not wanting to harm his daughter.
The monster still haunts my dreams
I have had many nightmares....
At least he didn't call the commander Shirley.
Notice the background over ten movies have used it since .
Description: "The Enemy From The I.D."
Not "I.D." (identification), but "id," as in one of the three agents of the psyche: id, ego, and superego.
A great coldwar film.
Robby the robot designed by“ Bob Kinoshita ”who Japa designer born Japan!
Great movie, but please boost the sound Dude.
I know I'll undoubtedly attract vilification by this comment (and perhaps, it's already been made), but that much heat would not have made it possible for them to have remained so close to it.
It's interesting that this clip cuts out the id-monster's attack on Morbius, himself. PC editing at work! Desiring death as both restitution for the comrades he'd unknowingly murdered and to protect his daughter from himself, he stood there, deliberately making himself an obstacle to the monster. The invisible monster picked him up and slammed him against the wall. The original movie showed this in graphic detail. I guess it had to be removed for CZcams.
I have seen the old original film shown via film projectors multiple times in movie theaters, going back 47 years, and not once did I see Morbius get thrown against a wall. If such an event was filmed, it must have been edited out a long time ago. Perhaps there is some surviving print of this (?) or documentation from old original notes on production? Have you actually seen it? I know there were some early ideas in the screenplay which were either excised or never actually filmed -- like an explanation of how Altaira's telepathic connection to her tiger kept it docile. Connection broken when she gets romantic with the Captain. They also filmed a wedding between Adams and Altaira on board the ship for the very end of the movie. Don't believe that ever made it into the final cut.
Great movie but I just couldn't stop thinking about the original Ghostbusters film and Dan Ackroyds character imagining the Stay Puft Marshmallow man. Why didnt Morbious think of something a little less monstrous..😂
Perhaps he didn’t have a sweet tooth
Captain Kirk, Spock and Bones, this is how its done. All other SciFi movies, the line starts here.
Always surprised that when the alien ship landed, he didn’t knock a bin over 😂
To think, this was long before Shirley there became a deadpan comedy actor.
1950's version of Dr. Strange
Heard the film was based on the Montauk Project !
Lovecraft would've enjoyed this movie, but would turn around and claim they ripped me off
Idididididid!
Anne Francis...walking like she was dancing across the stage. I have to wonder..how many thousands of babies were conceived after watching this movie?
They are going to remake this classic ! Hopefully they do a good job!
"Id I'd I'd"
I guess you haven’t heard of a capture device, huh?
How does he actually die? Has always baffled me
Filmed off a tv instead of doing it right, pretty shabby.
Her very short dress was so fashionable in the late 50's.
Nope that was the mid-60s
@@pauldzim That's about the same time.
She was a trend-setter. Today, you might call her an “influencer.”
The middle school romance sub plot doesn’t hold up well and in the future I guess we don’t allow women to serve on spaceships, but everything else holds up pretty well.
Dang show the whole thing you’re just chopping it up and it’s hard to watch
Monsters of the Id - czcams.com/video/Cdkf5tJ2yb4/video.html
Spamming garbage music!
Institive drivers
Great story ... atrocious acting.