What a reel ! Thanks Gary for sending it in for a initial look. Yep smaller spool size for the C or compact models. Compared to regular 2500S. Awsome few good features on new Stella hopefully they’ll show up on the next Vanquish. Believe the Shimano’s quick response series such as the Vanquish-Vanford can’t be beat. Mind you Stella is top of the line if your fishing and mounting it on heavier rods and fishing in rougher conditions. Thanks Victor for another honest and insightful review.
Looking forward to your on the water review, The spool on the c2500s Shimanos are the same diameter as the c2000s just deeper for more line capacity. I have two soares xr, the c2000SS and the c2500S and the rotor and spool diameters are exactly the same.
@@E47irfan your two reels are a size under the 2500s, if it was a c2500s then I’m pretty sure they would be compatible. 2500,2500S,C3000 are all interchangeable but they are a size over the 1000s,c2000,c2500s. I hope this helps
the spools on C2500S and C2000S are not the same on this Stella, although they are interchangeable, like miguel said. Diameter is different, not the depth. On the Soare they are the same diameter but this is an exception rather than the rule. Usually the C2500 models have 1000 size body and a spool that is larger than 2000 size, and if not larger in diameter, at least has more capacity.
I purchased the C2000 from digitaka. This particular size comes with the small finesse knob. I had to switch it out with a regular flat knob. When comparing to my other 18 stella, its hard to tell a difference in smoothness. They both feel the same. They are my smoothest reels. Lower inertia than my 22 Exist and 18 Exit also.
Digitaka is hit and miss. This reel is from Digitaka too, but i want to mail it to you to try it. Its like the body is full with 5W30 and when u drive you are splashing liquid inside. I fished it today and I am nuts about this reel. I want to buy it from him, even though its a weird size, just because I know when i buy the size I want i will get a reel that will not be as perfect. But if you can't tell a difference between your stella and your older reels, even though they are both amazing,.. it just confirms my opinion that even the Stellas are not all perfect. Also I commend your objectivity to say something like this - that your new Stella feels the same as the old Stella. It doesn't matter if they are both perfect - very few people would say that. Sometimes I say that in my videos and people appreciate it. But with all of this said, i still tell you, i am NUTS about this stella in my hands.
@@ifishcatfish To be perfectly honest Victor I purchased 8 reels from Digitaka within the last couple of months and every one was in perfect condition with the best prices, free-fast shipping and no taxes and I have NO loyalty or affiliation with them. I've tried other companies and not had the same experience. Keep up the great work, I really enjoy you video's and honesty.
@@philipfalco7304 interesting feedback. Definitely not my experience. I would say with me its 50/50. But Plat is not much better. It's really the luck of the draw and you have been either been unbelievably lucky, or you have different tolerance than me
@@ifishcatfish I guess I've been incredibly lucky then but I'll keep my fingers crossed because I just ordered the exact Stella C2500S you reviewed. I'll let you know how it turns out. I haven't tried Plat yet but Aliexpress was a bust, Asian portal and Japantackle was more expensive because of shipping costs but I have nothing bad to say about them because the products came in perfect condition. I had good luck so far with Ebay but Amazon was 1 hit and 1 miss.
@@ifishcatfish And as far as having a different tolerance than you the answer would be a big No. I've been fishing for 50yrs. combined with being O.C.D. so it it doesn't pass my expectations they don't get a second chance.
Just picked up the stella 1000 sspg to pair with my eradicator, can't wait to use it for whatever. Got it spooled with 3.5lb sunline bms fc sniper and man its a beauty. The drag sounds amazing too, unfortunately bad the white bass are running so I won't be able to use this reel soon.
@@ifishcatfish I wanna say no because I don't actually have that model and like you said its through a video so its hard to compare. Normally I would want a louder drag but with how much people have picked up fishing these last years, it draws too much attention especially from shore. There is no respect when it comes to fishing so if someone hears my drag screaming, they are coming over and casting right into where I'm casting. I do however like the sound it makes though, although I wish it was a bit more metallic.
Hi, I just purchased a Stella FK C3000XG but I find there is a scrubbing noise from body when reeling the handle, it is smooth but feels like there is some friction inside the reel, is that normal out of the box?
You think the decreased oscillation is part of the longer cast theory where the line doesn’t crisscross across the spool as much? The advantage may also be you can lay more line onto the spool because the is less crossover, making it equal in line capacity as other brand’s larger spool? That might be OK in the smaller size spools but wonder if it’s also used in the larger ones where potential is increased of the braid getting embedded with higher drag… 🤔🤔🤔🤔
wowwwww, you got all the key points. I don't believe criss cross matters in casting at all, but i think it does matter how u lay line, and DOES increase spool capacity. Technically, since the top layer of line takes less resistance than the layer underneath to exit the spool (due to angle), and how u have more line on the top layer, you can make some argument that theoretically it will increase the distance, but again, this is not because criss-cross makes resistance or something, its because of superior line lay. and yes, I would DEFINITELY not use these reels for braid! Even when i do panfish with braid, every now and then i get a pull and then i have to pull the line out with my hands on shimanos
i dont like slow oscillation. the line like drop more to bottom of spool if you use jerk bait or bait with slack line techniques. if use lure that has tight winding like crank there's no problem. i have the stella 1000.
Nothing to worry to have the dig badly unless u fighting at high tension with handle which is no no fight , yrs lived by worm gear osc never ever it’s an issue but rather a must have feature for those who r looking for a bit greater distance .
i thought it was the other way! I'm sure i've had a reel in the past where it was the other way. I had daiwa Procyon 2500FC that had 1000 size body but the 2500 size rotor. But visually... looks like u right
@@ifishcatfish Shimano do it differently than Daiwa! Daiwa 1000 body 2500 spool/rotor, Shimano 2500 body 1000 spool/rotor (well thats what they say but honestly the body still seems slightly smaller than an actual shimano 2500's 🤔) confusing but its how they do it haha.
@@gman69455 No it isn't, in Vanquish and Vanford it is as I stated, and in Stella FK and new Vanquish a C2500's spool and rotor are smaller and a completely different build than the 2500, they're the exact same spool and rotor found on the 1000 and C2000 size reels, the only difference between 1000 C2000 and C2500 is spool width and handle length, as you go up the spool gets a little wider and the handle a little longer, but that's it. And no it's a 1000 body, that is why it isn't called just 2000, it's called C2000.
Victor, on a semi-related note I picked up a Procyon AL 2000 on a good sale. It turns out this is an LT reel with only the base frame made out of aluminum. What caught me off-guard, though, was what I saw when I removed the spool... unlike the Procyon LT it has a bottom side spool support bearing. Apparently someone was listening, although we don't need another minor variation on the larger theme. Cheers!
in abstract - yes. But in reality the models sold in japan have different options.For example slow gear ratio is offered only in Japan because here in the US people think it is something bad, when actually fast gear ratio is bad
@JLTFishing yeah I always go jdm for ultralight stella etc because of the lower gear. It's better torque and helps better when you're finesse fishing.
Hello my friend . Your video give me always knowledge about fishing gear . I use ultralight , light rod . I focus big fish taimen, pike .using ultralight rod , 1000 reel , 2,7kg fluorocarbon catch 1.02m taimen . But i have one big problem pike leader( wires) .my most lure suspending or floating, slow rising . But using steel leader my lure just sinking . Choice fluorocarbon leader it is always fail . Because ultralight vs big fish man it is so long battle and leader broke . I need solution 8
I had to tear that sleeve apart! Then when I got to the reel- it was so beautiful and the feel of it all was so smooth. The slow oscillation giving the spool a perfect line lay is superb. You will see it in your cast and the flatness of the line on the spool. Oh- BTW, the new 22 Daiwa Exist has a louder drag click than the 22 Stella in my opinion.
@@ifishcatfish That stupid tight sleeve would not slide out and allow me to open up the box. I literally had to tear it apart to get to the actual box...
@@ifishcatfish Well,after your comparison,i bought Stella C2500s,and it is at another level, compared to Exist 18. I must here say that you are a Honest Man, much appreciated 🎉
What a reel ! Thanks Gary for sending it in for a initial look. Yep smaller spool size for the C or compact models. Compared to regular 2500S. Awsome few good features on new Stella hopefully they’ll show up on the next Vanquish. Believe the Shimano’s quick response series such as the Vanquish-Vanford can’t be beat. Mind you Stella is top of the line if your fishing and mounting it on heavier rods and fishing in rougher conditions. Thanks Victor for another honest and insightful review.
Yes David . C mean Compact and compact reels is smaller than regular series.
The line laying is way much better than previous model
44mm spool on c2500, 47 mm spool on 2500, 43 mm spool on c2000.
i thought it was in the middle, that's why i called the model 2200..
Looking forward to your on the water review, The spool on the c2500s Shimanos are the same diameter as the c2000s just deeper for more line capacity. I have two soares xr, the c2000SS and the c2500S and the rotor and spool diameters are exactly the same.
Helo sir. I got vanquish and twin power for the same siz c2000s. Would be fit if i used spool size 2500s?
@@E47irfan your two reels are a size under the 2500s, if it was a c2500s then I’m pretty sure they would be compatible. 2500,2500S,C3000 are all interchangeable but they are a size over the 1000s,c2000,c2500s. I hope this helps
the spools on C2500S and C2000S are not the same on this Stella, although they are interchangeable, like miguel said. Diameter is different, not the depth. On the Soare they are the same diameter but this is an exception rather than the rule. Usually the C2500 models have 1000 size body and a spool that is larger than 2000 size, and if not larger in diameter, at least has more capacity.
@@ifishcatfish im about to use 2500s spool on my 2000s reels TP and vanquish. Will it fit?
@@E47irfan no because the C2500S has a 2500 size body with 1000 size spool and rotor
I purchased the C2000 from digitaka. This particular size comes with the small finesse knob. I had to switch it out with a regular flat knob.
When comparing to my other 18 stella, its hard to tell a difference in smoothness. They both feel the same. They are my smoothest reels.
Lower inertia than my 22 Exist and 18 Exit also.
Digitaka is hit and miss. This reel is from Digitaka too, but i want to mail it to you to try it. Its like the body is full with 5W30 and when u drive you are splashing liquid inside. I fished it today and I am nuts about this reel. I want to buy it from him, even though its a weird size, just because I know when i buy the size I want i will get a reel that will not be as perfect. But if you can't tell a difference between your stella and your older reels, even though they are both amazing,.. it just confirms my opinion that even the Stellas are not all perfect. Also I commend your objectivity to say something like this - that your new Stella feels the same as the old Stella. It doesn't matter if they are both perfect - very few people would say that. Sometimes I say that in my videos and people appreciate it. But with all of this said, i still tell you, i am NUTS about this stella in my hands.
@@ifishcatfish To be perfectly honest Victor I purchased 8 reels from Digitaka within the last couple of months and every one was in perfect condition with the best prices, free-fast shipping and no taxes and I have NO loyalty or affiliation with them. I've tried other companies and not had the same experience. Keep up the great work, I really enjoy you video's and honesty.
@@philipfalco7304 interesting feedback. Definitely not my experience. I would say with me its 50/50. But Plat is not much better. It's really the luck of the draw and you have been either been unbelievably lucky, or you have different tolerance than me
@@ifishcatfish I guess I've been incredibly lucky then but I'll keep my fingers crossed because I just ordered the exact Stella C2500S you reviewed. I'll let you know how it turns out. I haven't tried Plat yet but Aliexpress was a bust, Asian portal and Japantackle was more expensive because of shipping costs but I have nothing bad to say about them because the products came in perfect condition. I had good luck so far with Ebay but Amazon was 1 hit and 1 miss.
@@ifishcatfish And as far as having a different tolerance than you the answer would be a big No. I've been fishing for 50yrs. combined with being O.C.D. so it it doesn't pass my expectations they don't get a second chance.
I like the drag sound of the Shimano Sedona. It have a louder drag sound than my Vanquish.
Can increase drag sound by tuning the drag clicker spring
Very waiting for the review! Comparison with Vanquish?
Just picked up the stella 1000 sspg to pair with my eradicator, can't wait to use it for whatever. Got it spooled with 3.5lb sunline bms fc sniper and man its a beauty. The drag sounds amazing too, unfortunately bad the white bass are running so I won't be able to use this reel soon.
is the drag louder than this? This is really quiet
@@ifishcatfish I wanna say no because I don't actually have that model and like you said its through a video so its hard to compare. Normally I would want a louder drag but with how much people have picked up fishing these last years, it draws too much attention especially from shore. There is no respect when it comes to fishing so if someone hears my drag screaming, they are coming over and casting right into where I'm casting. I do however like the sound it makes though, although I wish it was a bit more metallic.
@@torment6369 i hear you
mine is this new model stella 1000 size... drag sounds loud. not very loud but loud enough. its more metallic sound than my vanford 1000.
@@mcl560 i believe that. I am releasing a shimano drag video in a couple of days that explains that
Victor, it was fun to watch your reaction to this “rare” Stella. Looking forward to some fishing time. Hope you find some crappie to test this beauty.
thanks buddy
Just ordered a 1000 size to step up my finesse game.
its an art, not a game
@@ifishcatfish it is a very nice reel. I’m loving it so far but the creeks have not cooperated with me.
Great Info. Thank you
Hi, I just purchased a Stella FK C3000XG but I find there is a scrubbing noise from body when reeling the handle, it is smooth but feels like there is some friction inside the reel, is that normal out of the box?
Hi I’m looking to get a very good BFS spinning reel can you tell me what is the top BFS spinning reel to get now
IMO, The Vanquish C2000S is King of the hill. If you want a faster gear ratio go with the C2000SHg
What you mean by no scratch and good reel when you turn the knob?
Good one man.. where you get that wonderful reel
google SHIMANO Stella.. everyone sells it
@ifishcatfish unfortunately not everywhere..specially 2022 model
@@ebrahim602 google... dont go to local shops.
You think the decreased oscillation is part of the longer cast theory where the line doesn’t crisscross across the spool as much? The advantage may also be you can lay more line onto the spool because the is less crossover, making it equal in line capacity as other brand’s larger spool? That might be OK in the smaller size spools but wonder if it’s also used in the larger ones where potential is increased of the braid getting embedded with higher drag… 🤔🤔🤔🤔
wowwwww, you got all the key points. I don't believe criss cross matters in casting at all, but i think it does matter how u lay line, and DOES increase spool capacity. Technically, since the top layer of line takes less resistance than the layer underneath to exit the spool (due to angle), and how u have more line on the top layer, you can make some argument that theoretically it will increase the distance, but again, this is not because criss-cross makes resistance or something, its because of superior line lay.
and yes, I would DEFINITELY not use these reels for braid! Even when i do panfish with braid, every now and then i get a pull and then i have to pull the line out with my hands on shimanos
Very amazing
sounds silly but its true
Shimano stacked the line on top of each other not Chris Cross like a X when the line goes on the other spool
We can hear you
Hello sir! Please make a video using those jighead paired with gekabjn reel?
Simple concept less friction better casting , but again u need better casting tech, to c the noticeable difference
i dont like slow oscillation. the line like drop more to bottom of spool if you use jerk bait or bait with slack line techniques. if use lure that has tight winding like crank there's no problem. i have the stella 1000.
the only thing slow oscillation is not good for is braid. Because the coils are paralel, they can sink under pressure
@@ifishcatfishyeah its exactly as you said....yes im using braid.
Nothing to worry to have the dig badly unless u fighting at high tension with handle which is no no fight , yrs lived by worm gear osc never ever it’s an issue but rather a must have feature for those who r looking for a bit greater distance .
I have the C2500sxg. Same thing but faster gear ratio. It's a 2500 body with 1k rotor and spool.
i thought it was the other way! I'm sure i've had a reel in the past where it was the other way. I had daiwa Procyon 2500FC that had 1000 size body but the 2500 size rotor. But visually... looks like u right
@@ifishcatfish Shimano do it differently than Daiwa! Daiwa 1000 body 2500 spool/rotor, Shimano 2500 body 1000 spool/rotor (well thats what they say but honestly the body still seems slightly smaller than an actual shimano 2500's 🤔) confusing but its how they do it haha.
@@cozab5487 yes the c2500 is hard to tell body difference but the 3000mhg with 4k body and 2500 rotor/spool is very noticeable.
@@cozab5487 shimano’s c2500 is a 2500 spool and rotor on a 2000 size body, not a 1000 size body. Also not a downsized spool on larger body.
@@gman69455 No it isn't, in Vanquish and Vanford it is as I stated, and in Stella FK and new Vanquish a C2500's spool and rotor are smaller and a completely different build than the 2500, they're the exact same spool and rotor found on the 1000 and C2000 size reels, the only difference between 1000 C2000 and C2500 is spool width and handle length, as you go up the spool gets a little wider and the handle a little longer, but that's it. And no it's a 1000 body, that is why it isn't called just 2000, it's called C2000.
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What do you think of the new 2022 daiwa exist ?
I have one in my room but havent opened it yet. Next week
i have no idea why they dont come stock with the ios drag system
I didn’t even know that this existed. Thanks for the suggestion, I just ordered one and have it on the way now
Victor, on a semi-related note I picked up a Procyon AL 2000 on a good sale. It turns out this is an LT reel with only the base frame made out of aluminum. What caught me off-guard, though, was what I saw when I removed the spool... unlike the Procyon LT it has a bottom side spool support bearing. Apparently someone was listening, although we don't need another minor variation on the larger theme. Cheers!
good to know. At least the AL naming convention is appropriate this time
On the topic of shimano reels will u do a review on new nasci fc
i dont know.. someone would have to send me one... i dont need that reel..
Is this JDM Stella model the same as the USA model Stella FK?
in abstract - yes. But in reality the models sold in japan have different options.For example slow gear ratio is offered only in Japan because here in the US people think it is something bad, when actually fast gear ratio is bad
@@ifishcatfish thanks for the information. 🙏
@JLTFishing yeah I always go jdm for ultralight stella etc because of the lower gear. It's better torque and helps better when you're finesse fishing.
@@raidersuckkok great 🙏
That's a nice reel
thank u
wow
Will you go for 22 Stella or 22 Exist?
i have a review/comparison of the two reels.
Hello my friend . Your video give me always knowledge about fishing gear . I use ultralight , light rod . I focus big fish taimen, pike .using
ultralight rod , 1000 reel , 2,7kg fluorocarbon catch 1.02m taimen . But i have one big problem pike leader( wires) .my most lure suspending or floating, slow rising . But using steel leader my lure just sinking . Choice fluorocarbon leader it is always fail . Because ultralight vs big fish man it is so long battle and leader broke . I need solution 8
maybe use very thin wire. I have one that is thin as a hair. I don't know if it will survive pike teeth though
@@ifishcatfish thank you brother. Please share link or name 🙏
We can here u
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hi Mike
@@ifishcatfish hello I also own the Stella and this one with a slow escalation should be awesome 😎 I can’t wait for the future models
are we live?
I had to tear that sleeve apart! Then when I got to the reel- it was so beautiful and the feel of it all was so smooth. The slow oscillation giving the spool a perfect line lay is superb. You will see it in your cast and the flatness of the line on the spool.
Oh- BTW, the new 22 Daiwa Exist has a louder drag click than the 22 Stella in my opinion.
why?
@@ifishcatfish That stupid tight sleeve would not slide out and allow me to open up the box. I literally had to tear it apart to get to the actual box...
@@watchman316ly i got pretty pisst myself and if it was my reel the outer box would be in the trash can.
I would like to buy a new rell but I can't decide on a vanquish 19 or new Stella in 1000 SSPG version
I have ready a Stella 18
why not buy them both
Buy both the 23 vanquish and the 22 stella lol
It is a Perfect Reel compared to Daiwa
they are both very perfect
@@ifishcatfish Well,after your comparison,i bought Stella C2500s,and it is at another level, compared to Exist 18. I must here say that you are a Honest Man, much appreciated 🎉