Starship in 'Two Weeks' - Starliner When? - Deep Space Updates - May 23
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2024
- Catching up with a lot of news. China launches a new Long March rocket, Blue Origin's New Shepard starts flying humans again. Boeing once again fail to do something with Starliner on time. SpaceX launch a lot of satellites and get ready for Starship flight number 4.
And, Rocket Factory Augsburg test a rocket stage in Scotland at Saxa Vord spaceport!
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“Captain’s log, star date 2364.9. We have been asked to help Boeing record the launch of its Starliner capsule, approximately 300 years late and $1.94 quadrillion over budget.”
Why not beam it into orbit? 😊
It's even funnier when I imagine a captain writing this from the bridge of a Spacex Starship Enterprise orbiting alpha centauri.
Still having problems keeping the doors on.
@@domoredujordanpretty sure It's going to be a long march starship as things are going
@@Roguescienceguy It's been a long march, getting from there to here ...
We can hardly wait to launch from Scotland and are working on it day and night! 🚀
Good luck with that, and godspeed!
Congrats on that test - it looks great! Ad Astra!
i dream to see a launch from Scotland! go go go!
Good luck RFA team. I am really looking forward to it.
God speed to The SSA Buckfast 1
"Are you classified as crew?"
"Negative. I am a meat payload."
I mean, the difference between crew and payload is just what we call them, really
Autowash!
Corbin Dallas Lives!
Someone has to tell the difference to me.
"Sorry we need meat popsicles"
17:46 The geese looking up at the sky, their evolutionary memory jolted, thinking "oh no, not this again"
Remember 'Space Frog'?! :D
Our amphibian friends shall persevere!
They'd be saying - "Hey, the last one got rid of those big mouth breathers, wonder what this one will do for us."
After seeing the meteor, they immediately attacked the nearest humans, just because that's what geese do.
Scott Manley said that the meteor was only like 1% less bright than the sun, but according to wiki, "Magnitude values do not have a unit. The scale is logarithmic and defined such that a magnitude 1 star is exactly 100 times brighter than a magnitude 6 star. Thus each step of one magnitude is ≈ 2.512 times brighter than the magnitude 1 higher. The brighter an object appears, the lower the value of its magnitude, with the brightest objects reaching negative values."
@@RCAvhstapeNever trust a Goose. 🦆
The teenagers reacting to the meteor was fun, but the geese were priceless. 😂
The moment you noticed you actually recorded it
@@mammutMK2 and imagine there will be people saying that the teeneger knew what was about to happen because there is no way someone could have recorded it perfectly by accident 😀
@@LaggerSVK Yeah I first saw this on Instagram and I was sad to see so many people say it was fake.
Zhihui Tianwang translating to Sky Net is both hilarious and terrifying
"At long last, a tech company has recreated the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel "Don't Create The Torment Nexus""
Cameron got the name from the British military satellite Skynet.
I really wish I could give this comment multiple thumbs up!
And you can even see it in orbit from down here in Gilead...
This 'Sky Net' is a staring of big thing...
surprised it's not the chinese knock off 'NySket'
With so many cameras in the world, some of them are bound to create perfection. - Scott Manley 2024
and we still don't have any recording of aliens or bigfoot
The teen video was a cinematographer’s wet dream. The timing, acting, framing - wow. That goes into the annals of serendipitous selfie videos.
It’d be impossible to replicate as a live shot by professionals unless they had a spare space rock and the means to direct it just so. And a whole bunch of actors being filmed at once to get the best shot out of it.
I will even make an exception for it being filmed vertically. Just this one time it had to be vertical.
100%
@@hbh3144Right? I swear, that little clip is so much good!
You reminded me of shot in some documentary where a guy explains that it was found that hydrogen and oxygen is the most energetic mix, and when you mix them and ignite "you get, this" while pointing at the launch pad at the exact moment of Voyager 2 launching
A real money shot. I wonder what the context was: Did these teens set up their phone like that by accident (i.e. planning to film something else entirely) or were they actually meaning to catch a "glimpse" of the meteor? -- For a phone at night the quality was really good. Also enjoyed the film-like reaction of the person in the frame when the atmosphere lit up.
I was thinking, the navy had problems with the welding on it's submarines. They fixed the problem with they would pull the name of a welder out of a hat and that person would be a passenger on the trial run of the sub. Welds got better. So, my suggestion is 4 Boeing managers will be the first passengers on stayliner until we get through all of the management at Boeing. Solve 2 problems at once.
I love this idea.
Many, many places should follow this example. You want to cut cost, you volunteer yourself on the trial run of whatever you just "improved"
It worked out pretty well for the Titan sub.
You're talking about a complete turnover! They only went in this alliance to acquire Lockheed Martin.
Ok. STAYliner is my favourite phrase now regarding Starliner 😂😂😂😂
"I thought I hadn't needed this ... but I lied!" GREAT SUMMATION!
It is interesting how Falcon 9 launches have become so common that Scott doesn't even find them interesting anymore unless it is doing something that hasn't been done before.
I think a lot of us feel that way
Like, at this point it’s just another launch
Interesting yes, is this a good thing? No.
Some people still believe spacex rockets just explode because the media said so
whereas Starliner will be seat of the pants - lets hope something doesn't fall off.
@@lextacy2008 why is this bad?
Lot of good shot of the bolide. Howerer, those geese/swan being like "WTF!? ARE WE DYING??" was the perfect shot haha
"Oh no, not again!"
i love the geese with the metorite, going "wtf?"
Cobra Chicken 1: "WTF Larry‽"
Cobra Chicken 2: "My name's not Larry!"
Didn't he say it was ball lightning?
As a StarLink user in rural Ga, I was incredibly impressed at it's ability to weather the storm. there were 10- 15sec blips here and there but no one in the house ever noticed. I had to check the logs to find out it was effected at all.
I bet Dream Chaser could be made man-capable before Starliner ever gets going.
never underestimate Starliner's potential to surprise!
That is a distinct possibility, despite DreamChaser's recent delays... that Sierra Space team is highly motivated, morale seems great, and they know their engineering for sure
If I remember correctly, Dream Chaser was eliminated in the same bidding process that awarded Starliner and Crew Dragon. Afterwards, the concept was retooled and was awarded a commercial cargo contract a few years later. That there is a possibility now, that Dream Chaser might launch before a crewed Starliner mission is wild…
@@tombrauey You remember correctly! Yeah, Boeing being lapped by Sierra Space would be kind of a big deal for the people most intimately involved in it...
remember when starliner was supposed to compete with crew dragon?
I remember back then when it was a real race between them, it seems silly now in retrospect
It's now competing with SLS as who embezzles more money
@@marcogenovesi8570well, not exactly. Boeing got same type of contract as SpaceX regarding Starliner, and it's "fixed price" instead standard for legacy companies "cost+" . So they are burning Boeing own money. They are pushing starliner as if they don't deliver they will have to give back those money they cashed already. But afaik they just want to fill contract and drop this project eventually, and they DON'T accept any more fixed price contracts.
Remember when they got extra funding because they would be ready and flying way before Dragon.
Don't forget New Shepard! It was in that mix as well!
Dreamchaser reminds me of Crighton’s ship on Farscape.
I still don’t get how “overcoming atmospheric friction” causes his ship to accelerate more.
@@ryanp0342 Gravity assist allows ships to accelerate more. However going to close to the planet means you get atmospheric friction. If your ship can overcome this you can get a much better gravity assist.
@@catprog No I get gravity assist it just doesn’t make any sense in this case. If you were driving a car from one hill down into a valley and then back up another hill. It would be analogous to someone going along the same road with the valley being 5’ lower with a brick wall at the bottom. And someone says if I can overcome the brick wall at the bottom we can go faster up the other hill
The fat girl episode where she repaired Crighton's module...not so believable.
Ah Starliner
The Gift that keeps giving
Grift.
More Boeing problems.
and what it is giving us is lots of laughs and facepalms
...because making a crewed spacecraft is super easy.
@@marklindsey1995 *...barely an inconvenience!...*
I could see the aurora from Bavaria, Germany. It was absolutely spectacular, massive purple streams all across the sky even in the south. Really a once in a lifetime experience.
The aurora was visible from as far south as northern Italy.
Very cool I'm jealous. Couldn't see anything in Boston. It's worth noting though that northern Italy has a similar latitude as Nova Scotia (45°)
I unfortunately missed it (it might have been visible where I was but I didn’t know when to expect it and I was working night shift anyway), but my girlfriend who was flying home from Washington DC saw it from her plane. She got amazing photos out her window. I was so jealous of her lol.
@@zobblewobble1770 Don't worry bro, you're not the only one to miss it. I and many other are with you.
Watching this before school to become a aerospace engineer is a fun experience
What school do you go to?
@@andrewparker318 TVHS I'm planning on being a aerospace engineer lmao IM tecniencly not wrong
@@The-python-guy oh no I wasn't being skeptical, I was just curious as to what college you were going to :D
I go to Embry Riddle which has tons of people studying aerospace and I was curious if you maybe went to my school lol
@@andrewparker318same lol, DB or Prescott?
@@bengranby3664 Daytona Beach, hbu?
In Neal Stephenson’s “SevenEves”, the plot has “many” rockets being launched to the space station and environs. .. I though the author was “pushing the envelop” on launch frequencies and launchers. Just a few years later, here we are. . .
Love that book. Interesting to think that capability was impossible at the time it was written but completely possible now
Trogdor was a man
I mean, he was a dragon man
Or, maybe he was just a, dragon
But he was still Trogdor!
Trogdor!
I said CONSUMMATE Vees!
Man, I love dreamchaser. So good to see it come alive
At first I thought this was supposed to be a joke about boeing chasing a dream and not reaching it then I remembered about dreamchaser. Definitely an interesting spacecraft, I'm looking forward to more news about it.
I love the name Stayliner. How fitting..
I prefer to call it the Boeing Flatliner.
Damn! I checked and yes, "Myriad" is an old unit for 10,000....
Starliner is the gift that keeps on giving, but not in the way they intended
Rot always starts from the top down, but when it has set in it'll creep back in if you only clean the surface.
I have little faith that Boeing will be able to clear the rot before they collapse.
I appreciate the reminder that there are Hubble type telescopes pointed back at earth. If I remember correctly the place they made the mirror has made eleven mirrors that size.
Congrats Booster 1062!
You're now.... _Dammit Scott!!_ I was *just going to make* that "now you can drink" joke! 😭🤣
4:23 - A significant detail: The fairing of the Russian "inspection" satellite sports the Z-logo!!
Your thumbnail brought back memories of Thunderbird 2.
My bicycle is named “Thunderbird II” 😄
The teenagers reacting to the meteor sighting was awesome, but for me potentially more so when the geese or ducks or whatever the hell they were looked up in the sky with this bright object flying across was pretty damn epic🤩
In other news, headlines are saying "Starliner finally launched shortly after Starship IFT-6"
That dream chaser vehicle looks like the one the main character is in, in farscape when he travels through the wormhole
Strongbad and Trogdor entered my life when my kids were pre-teens. Haven't heard about them much since then :)
Their CZcams channel is still active, sort of. They released a vid a week ago even.
A few years ago I said that the Artemis 1 mission would fly before Boeing's Lateliner and it came true and now I am going to predict that the Artemis 2 mission will fly before Lateliner's second flight
What a time to be alive! Rockets named in honour of Trogdor!
i live in anchorage, alaska, and maybe it's just borealis karma but it was too cloudy to see anything here. you're welcome, rest of the world.
The irony with Starliner is... if it was launchin' on Falcon 9, it would have been in space by now.
I'm so happy that I'm not the only one that immediately thought of Trogdor for the Xogdor rocket lol.
I would never have guessed Starship would make it to space before Starliner gets certified.
SpaceX: so common that Scott is looking for anything different.
Boeing: talks twice as long about how they still haven’t done a space flight for humans yet
A Starship/Starliner doubleheader would be awesome. Great update. :)
Thanks, Scott for this update.
Really waiting for the first Atlas-Starliner manned lift-off.
Despite me being in doubt that it will be the preferred way to reach orbit.
Thank you for the Space Updates! As usual, your depth of knowledge about pretty much everything is astounding.
Thank you, especially for your enthusiasm!
WOW! An Encyclopedic list of all things SPACE!
QUESTION: With the meteor generating blue light as it burnt up in the atmosphere, do we know what materials it was made of? And is this a normal composition or something kind of rare? I know we can't run spectroscopic analysis on the footage because of the equipment used to record the video and how processed it is by the time the video is posted.
It was likely magnesium and calcium.
Somewhat. There's a strong blue-green magnesium line or two in most fireballs/meteors. There's also usually a strong yellow sodium line, and sometimes a blue calcium line. However, sometimes there's a lot less sodium, and for chemical/plasma-physics/atmospheric reasons that are part complicated and part mysterious, faster-impacting fireballs that explode higher in the atmosphere tend to be bluer. So this one may have been lower in sodium, leaving it blue-green rather than solidly green with the yellow mixed in, and/or faster.
The ESA has stated that it was likely a comet fragment, i.e more ice than silicate/carbonate rocks or iron. Comet chunks tend to hit at faster speeds. They may well be deriving that opinion in part from its color.
Thanks for the explanation sir@@HypoceeYT
Love that line Scott "that is called jerk". Back when I was an active skydiver the proper term is "Opening Shock", when an Unreefed reserve parachute takes you from terminal velocity down to under 20 mph vertically in just under a half second.
The unofficial term used by observers on the ground witnessing an explosively fast opening over head back then was "Ha-Wonka!!" . Usually expressed with sympathy as the jumper concerned probably just experienced, very briefly, up to 12gees. The jumper concerned was usually grounded for the rest of the day as he or she would have a nice concussion at that point, with a screaming headache. Food for thought.
Stayliner is a fantastic name
Aaand we just got info about Starship IFT-3 and a tentative date for IFT-4, just as you posted this video :D
That longmarch exhaust cloud looks abnormally toxic
That rust orange exhaust can't be good.
It's perfectly normally toxic (which is to say, quite toxic) 😄
It's UDMH with IRFNA - Unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine with inhibited red fuming nitric acid as the oxidizer. Look those two terms up on wiki if you want to know more :)
@@PinataOblongata Wut? Who came up with fuming nitric acid for an oxidizer? Villian in James Bond movie?
Just like their Government.
oh no it's normally that toxic
Thank you Scott, for some seriously important and technically dense updates! I really love your channel and I’m glad to watch this today. I also have a soft spot for a rocket launching from Scotland! I have been following the potential launch dates of starship for as well as Starliner and the fact that they may possibly launch on the same day, to me, is absolutely wild🤩!
18:00 looks amazing, like something from an advert or movie.
They announced a new launch target of Saturday, June 1, at 12:25 p.m. ET, with backup dates set for June 2, June 5 and June 6,
For Starliner? Starship 4?
@@lethargogpeterson4083 Starliner, Starship is scheduled to launch on June 5th.
"We won't find out what happened to IFT3 until much later" SpaceX Drops an IFT3 post detailing what happened. LOL!
The name "Ed Dwight" and description immediately struck me as this being one of the guys Chuck Yeager was talking about in his autobiography. If you've read it, you'll know, and if not, I don't want to spill the beans. But congrats to Ed Dwight for being able to be on this flight!
Thanks for the updates!
If firefly is currently worth 1.8B, then SpaceX is worth a Trillion...
“I thought I didn't need it in my life, but I lied” 😭
"Starliner is brand-new" made me giggle!
I just realized the “done in 2 weeks “ was the running joke in the Tom Hanks
movie “The Money Pit .”
Last time i was this early, i was waiting every week for Interstellar Kerbal and Minecraft Survival Games ahahaha
Do you remember his xenonauts run or am I the only one?
@@Alphacheesehunter that rings a bell, is it still around?
ah, yes the XCOM we have at home XD jk, i should definitely get it now that i'm an adult :p
@xymaryai8283 It is! They're making a second one. I'm waiting for a bit but I still play the first on and off. I play xcom and xenonauts but something always brings me back to xenonauts.
The ducks were like, “HOLY QUACK!!”
Thx for the updates Scott, amazing times for the Space industry.
1:40 I doubt I'd enjoy breathing them, but those exhaust clouds on the Long March launch look really cool.
You are likely well known enough that if you put out feelers I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone let you learn to fly an already existing airship. The 'classic' people to do it with would be Goodyear since the obvious history but they also seem to have a track record of good publicity for their airship stuff. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a younger company partner with you for the publicity, I know there are a few lesser known airships out there right now
Scott … you would love the atomic museum in Albuquerque NM. Not just for the actual rockets and a B52 and all things related to atomics of the Cold War &WW2 with lots of interesting technical details, tactical details. For example, one display explains using a drogue chute that slows a supersonic missile to slow speed at astonishing deceleration (100+ G deceleration with details on chute webbing that can handle huge forces).
And if you do go to Albuquerque two other AAA quality museums are the manned flight balloon museum and Natural History Museum (best dinosaur displays).
(...taking notes for my own Albuquerque trip...)
As someone who's working at VSFB, I want you to know that I'm incredibly annoyed that the Cape got their flight-leading booster out on its 21st before us with booster 1061 which is slated for its 21st flight out of SLC-4E at the end of this month.
Damn those Cape guys they beat us again!
Glad to see Mr. Dwight going up!
The very day you released this, we got a really good press conference just a few hours before explaining everything going on.
Had the launch gone ahead on May 6 as scheduled, the leak would've been detected on-orbit and it would've been looked when Starliner docked to ISS, and then they would've determined it was safe, and brought spacecraft and its crew back, possibly a few days late.
The question I have is why this was not detected in the factory before it was placed on the rocket. I have worked with helium and it is not hard to detect leaks. There is no good reason for this to have gone undetected until right after the launch. Helium is used to force furel through the thrusters. Potentially if you loose too much helium while in orbit it would have not been capable of manuverig and slowing for reentry. Potentially leaving astronauts stranded in low earth orbit.
@@stevenf1678 Depends on when it started and the leak rate was so small and slow that it was not a danger to a craft designed to stay on orbit for months.
Plus they have the ability to isolate that particular thruster or the whole string, if need be, and still have enough redundancy to maneuver or perform a deorbit burn.
It's more like a StuckLiner
Scott Manley is a gift to this planet! Keep doing your fantastic work!
Thanks scott for all the updates!
SpaceX is targeting June 5 for Starship's fourth launch, pending regulatory approval. In comparison to the last one, this launch is planned to include a Hot Stage Ring jettison and Starship landing burn
SpaceX also posted an update on SFT-3 which states that
- 6 Raptor engines shut down early during the boostback burn
- Only 2 engines ignited for the landing burn, leading to lower than expected thrust and loss of the booster
- The most likely cause of this was continued filter blockage
- The propellant transfer demo was successful
- The most likely cause of S28's loss of control was clogging of the valves responsible for roll control
Transferring fuel between tanks inside the same ship isn't the success people think it is.
very rude of them to release all that AFTER Scott just published this video...
tsk tsk, lol
So both in flight 2 and 3 the booster was lost due to a suspected filter blockage. I wonder what they think is blocking filters here.
@@ThatOpalGuy the success is this has never been attempted with cryogenic fuels and at this scale: 10 tonnes of transfer.
A small but important first step in the long road to orbital refuelling.
Damn, someone really needs to stop leaving those blue shop towels in the tanks, SMH
The reusability of the Falcon 9 is truly impressive. 21 launches for a single rocket!
I love that Trogdor the burnator is now a rocket!
An old documentary about the early American space program, featuring David McCullough (surely you know it), mentioned that "Our rockets always blow up" -- and they had the footage to prove it. But the best part was the nickname: Stay-Putnik.
Scott, I loved the stayliner.😂❤😅
Okay, Scott. 'Meat payload' got an actual laugh out of me.
It kills me that there are 2 dozen KH-11s just chilling out there while astronomers have had to clamor over the one Hubble.
I loved the Homestarrunner reference with the rocket name!
The 2 Starliner astronauts were lucky with the abort
I think you meant about 1 percent of the brightness of the sun, not within 1 percent, because that is like 99 percent.
1 percent of the sun is still pretty bright.
Thanks for the raw video. Telling the facts as it is is very important.
Attempting to watch a Starliner launch reminds me of a irritable Jeff Goldblum in "Jurassic Park" tapping on the camera lens in the Ford Explorer and asking "There are going to be some dinosaurs in this dinosaur attraction, right?" There is eventually going to be a launch of this launch system, right?
Would be hilarious if SpaceX trolled Boeing by launching Starship simultaneously with Starliner to steal all of their thunder.
BO "Meat Payload" Good one!
Yup😉🍆
You are AMAZING SCOTT!!!
Good to see Farscape 1 getting closer to a launch. Hope the IASA testing goes okay.
Starliner is hardly brand new. The first orbital flight test was back in 2019 five years ago. They just can't get the bloody thing to work. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the next one fails due to storage corrosion....
Osteoporosis...
The most informative Bad Dude on the planet :) Thanks for the update!
Thank you Scotty! Was mostly engaged by the not small Scottish test fire. Thank you for keeping my rocketry brain engaged.
Keep spinning that vinyl too. Keeps us young. Nice job on this video man. The video edits are always super cool.
Every time I see a hypergolic motor go off, that deep red plume I get a little perturbed. I can't bitch.
Haha, Stay-liner .. like
Hey Scott, shoudn’t the title say May 24 instead of May 23?
It’s when I recorded it
Yeah, I remember VAST - Visual Audio Sensory Theatre, they had that hit "Touched" :P
Happy to learn that Scott is a fan of homestarrunner
I'm actually amazed no customers are actually using the fast launch cadence of Falcon 9 to make cheaper satellites.
I mean 10 years lifespan for a satelite should be a thing of the past, but they keep doing them for Ariane.
"Stay-liner"
Rekt lol