Surly Ice Cream Truck Review | One year, 1000 Mile Review | Fat Bike
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- Here is the one year, 1000 mile review of my 202 Surly Ice Cream Truck. I have ridden the bike in a wide range of extreme conditions year round here in Colorado. From dirt road and gravel, to single track, to big mountain climbs and descents in dirt and snow, this is my feedback on the bikes performance in stock form.
Please check out the detailed videos linked below, or go watch my Fat Bike playlist to see targeted videos on all of these areas. Please subscribe to the channel if you are enjoying my content, and if you want to see what I do next as I begin to mod the ICT for other types of rides and adventure throughout 2021! Thanks for watching!
Here is my comprehensive fat bike playlist:
• Fatbiking - fatbiking ...
Fat Biking 101 (10 Beginner Tips!):
• Fat Biking 101 | 10 Be...
Day One First Look:
• Surly Ice Cream Truck ...
250 Mile Update:
• SURLY Ice Cream Truck ...
Winter Snow Ride in Rocky Mountains:
• Surly Ice Cream Truck ...
Can It Climb (extensive climbing testing):
• Surly Ice Cream Truck ...
Fat Biking the Highest Paved Road in North America:
• Surly Ice Cream Truck ...
Fat Bike Torture Test (High elevation mountain ride):
• Surly Ice Cream Truck ...
Timed Lap Shootout with Pugsley and Salsa Beargrease:
• Salsa Beargrease VS Su...
Fat Biking Rocky Mountain National Park (winter):
• Surly Ice Cream Truck ...
2021 Model First Look:
• 2021 Surly Ice Cream T...
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Show more video of the bike and less of yourself talking when doing these reviews.This would make for a better, more interesting experience for the viewer.
@@ceb4382 thanks for the feedback!
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Hey Tommy I truly appreciate your time tested review, I feel your reviews are so much more credible than the typical ridden 3 weeks “most playful ride ever but we’d change the grips” bike industry reviews. I’m glad to see less emphasis on fat bike snow riding and really looking forward to the bikepacking editions you mentioned producing this year. Thanks for the great vids, keep them coming!
Hi Donal, thanks for the kind words! I do agree, many bike “reviews” need to be taken with a grain of salt based on time spent with the bike. They may have some value, but riding a bike for a year in a wide variety tells so much more. Excited for adventure riding, have big plans for this year. Thanks for watching!!
That picture in the background really is a work of art btw
Thanks! I love it too! So glad to have the support of my partner, she put a lot of work into it! Thanks for watching!!
I have same bike, put about 8500 miles on it since March, including a lot of winter riding.
My only complaint is I destroyed the rear hub and Surly wouldn’t or couldn’t get a replacement under any kind of warranty.
I agree a dropper seat post would be a good mod.
I have studded Dillinger 5’s and I wish I went studded for the winter years ago.
Going to use Nates in non winter conditions. Amazing how much more agile the ICT is on Nates compared to the Bud and Lou, like a different bike.
Awesome! Glad to hear yours is holding up under such mileage and use! If I ever lost the hub I would use it as an excuse to upgrade anyways.🤙🏻 I don’t find much need for studs in my area, but I know they are essential in some places. I love the Bud/Lou for max monster trucking, but am excited to change up the wheel/tire setup and see how the bike feels then! Thanks for watching and for adding your experiences!
You're videos are a big reason why I just bought an ICT. Keep them up, please!
Hi Steven! Love hearing that, hope you are enjoying your new bike!! Thanks for watching!
My ICT came in a couple weeks ago, and your analysis seems pretty spot on to me so far. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do bikepacking/touring-wise. The Foresty Forest YT channel has some of my favorite and most inspiring off-road fat bike touring content. Appreciate your content as well. Really helped me twiddle my thumbs while I was waiting for mine to come in. Keep up the great work! Cheers! 🍻
Yeah I love Foresty, followed him for years on CZcams for the adventure biking, still get a kick out of his van life stuff though! Yeah I am exciting for some adventure fat bike travel stuff, I want to step up my videos a notch too by incorporating all of that. Congrats on the ICT and enjoy it! Thanks for watching!!
Your posts are always so thorough and informative. Thanks so much !
Thanks you for watching, it is really appreciated!
Great video !!! So glade you getting so much fun and favor out of you Ice Cream Truck . Its a great looking bike and happy the performance is also .
Yep still loving it, thanks for watching!
Love the PINK!!!!!
Me toooo! Thanks for watching!!
just received my ICT.. Local shop did a fine job setting the bike up for me... Safety Mask Blue, What a wild color, expect no less from Surly. Surprisingly nimble and definitely feel the trail in the frame and climbs like no other.. Can l say best bike l have ridden? Better than the ECR and way more capable.. Fun Comfort and plenty looks, feel good riding this bike.. l am sure l am not the only one who watched your videos and picked one up
Congrats! Yes, it is incredibly capable and a ton of fun!
Those views from Mt Evan’s are so great
They are! Hoping to go back for a winter summit!!
Getting super close to 1k! Keep up the great work!
Thanks! Yeah it’s been a process but feel like I have some momentum in the last couple months! Thanks for watching!
Great video liked the info and the short videos that went with your information keep up the good work very knowledgeable
Thanks for watching!!
Awesome review Tommy!
Thanks for checking it out!!
Great video!! ICT is still in in my top 5 bikes i want to getalso after seeing the new green in person I do really like it. I Love the look of the Brooks saddles be aware that B17 (520g) is more than double the weight of the WTB 142 (239g). I know your not overly concerned about weight but as you start adding stuff for bike packing something to think about.
Yeah it’s a great bike! Yeah that weight difference for the Brookes will be fine if it means more comfort for long days! Thanks for watching!!
I really enjoyed your video. Awesome Review. Thank You & Take Care: Shawn
Thank you for watching!!
Subscribed! Keep it going sir. 😉
Thanks for watching, much appreciated!!
another great review thanks for the detailed ride and technical comments! Since finding a new ITC anywhere has been almost impossible any other bikes you feel as enthusiastic about to search for?
ICT’s are hard to find, but are out there, on’t give up! But, anything from this list would be a good one, nether are others as well! Thanks for watching!
czcams.com/video/TDUJOIURRPQ/video.html
Thanks for the informative video. I will be interested to see what mods you make to the ICT to make it more bike packing worthy. I plan to bike pack my Salsa Beargrease this year. I am in the process of adding a dropper post to make downhill riding more fun. This should also help lower the bikes center of gravity when bike packing with the added weight.
Much appreciated Andrew! Yes I am excited to move into bike packing and making some more ambitious adventure based videos this year. I have a Beargrease as well, love it! For this year I am going to make it a lighter weight ripper. Maybe next year I will shift it over to do some bike packing with it! Thanks for watching!!
Hoping to get a grant; I’m an amputee, if I can get it I’m totally getting an ICT. I have a hard time walking so I need a bike that will go over everything. Thanks for the great review, definitely going with the ICT over Norco or Salsa.
Best of luck with the grant, and yes, the ICT is about as unstoppable as a bike gets!
I just took possession of my 2021 Surly ICT last week. I actually traded in a Salsa Mukluk to make this change. Both great machines, but I'm a sucker for Surly bikes, durability and value. I plan to add Paul Klampers and Paul Canti brake levers to mine, as I'm not a fan of hydraulic brakes. I'm also considering the lightweight Brooks saddle. I plan to use mine for bike packing, winter riding and may build up a second set of 29+ for summer touring. And, how about that new color!!
Hi Brent! Congrats on the new ICT, you will love it! Yeah I think a brake upgrade will be in my future too, not sure what though. I also have a Brookes saddle and bike packing accessories on the wish list. I think the summer wheelset is a great idea! Cheers and thanks for watching!!
late to the party ;) I love the Paul Klampers and Love Levers on my ICT!
The fix on braking is to replace the pads. I have the Wednesday and the rear brake was always loud. Replacing pads with ProMax not only cured the noise, but improved the bite.
I am likely due for some brake service
Great review! Looking at putting a dropper on my 2020 ICT. Any thoughts and recommendations?
Thanks Rudy! I have not done my final research on the dropper yet, but as of now I keep seeing good things about the PNW Rainier, so will probably look at that one first. Thanks for watching!!
Love the Icecream Truck, The Bud and Lou looks massive, just put down a payment, soon Fat Bike.. I have owned the Surly ECR and what shocked me is how light the Icecream Truck is... Maybe because the ECR has the racks but the Icecream did feel almost as light as the very nice Trek Farly 9.6...
I have been a big fan of the Bud/Lou combo, great in the toughest terrain when you air it down, it goes anywhere a bike can go. If you keep the ICT stock it isn’t too bad on weight, mine is pretty heavy now with the dropper seatpost and the Wren Perseverance bars on it, but those things are worth the weight.
@@ElevationEveryWeekend Thanks for the reply, l watch your vids many times and l never think l would want a Fat Bike.. it is about need because l want to ride all year, and looking at some Fat Bikes they are nice.. Yesterday l rode in 20 below on plus tires, pack snow but rode only half mile and back home.. to cold and not properly clothed, fingers was numb real fast.. What is the coldest you ride?
@@naldovaz9157 I ride mine all year round, I have ridden below zero a couple
times but it’s not that enjoyable, so usually it’s in that 15-20 degree minimum, which is usually great for good snow traction out here in mtns
Yeah, I would recommend getting dropper post and better brakes - bikes handles excellent on gnarly trails with small(ish) drops. I use my ICT as trail bike during the winter here in Siberia and it's a lot of fun.
Awesome, I am hoping to get more fun trail miles on it this year for sure, along with some bikepacking adventuring. What dropper did you get? Thanks for watching!!
@@ElevationEveryWeekend I've got e*Thirteen mechanical dropper for Surly but had some problems with remote - it's extremely easy to overtight and break 1Nm screw and dropper itself lags below -20 C.
So I can't say it's ideal but it does the job. On the other hand my summer bike has Thompson Elite Dropper which never lets me down in temperatures down to -15 C, but I am not sure how it will fare below that since it's pneumatic.
@@derpycyclistjr.1943 Awesome thanks for the feedback! I heard a lot of good things about the PNW Rainier too but will take a closer look at the options when the time comes
@@ElevationEveryWeekend Thanks for the tip too. I will be on the lookout for Rainer when I will be in the need of new dropper. I also have heard a lot of good things about dropper from Giant - it's cheap and serviceable and some people claim it works very well in winter.
@@derpycyclistjr.1943 I have a Giant dropper on my Anthem, it’s always worked quite well but have never used it in cold. It’s also a 2017 model so may have improved since then.
Nice review. I’m curious how the brakes felt at the bottom of your descent of Mt. Evans.
They were really feeling it on that descent, but more on the top third because it’s so much steeper with sharp switchbacks. Down lower I was able to carry more speed and brake a lot less, but they definitely were at the limit and had noticeable fade and were making noises I normally don’t hear from them. Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for all your insights and videos on fatbikes. I’m on the waiting list for a Surly Wednesday but am considering switching to the ICT instead (LBS said I could switch if I want)...I’m curious if you had considered the Wednesday before buying the ICT, and if so, what made you go with ICT instead?
Hi David. I did not consider the Wednesday, because when I bought my ICT I already had a Pugsley, and I feel like the Wednesday would be too similar. My brother has the current 2021 Wednesday though and it’s a great bike! I wanted the ICT for its Max tire capability out here in Colorado, but the Wednesday is great and probably the best bike for most people. I’d say you can’t go wrong with either, get whichever one you can get! I do have some videos that kinda talk about these bikes in more detail so check those out for more in depth views. Thanks for watching!!!
Here are a couple links to videos:
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I built up a Wednesday with SRAM GX and SRAM hydro brakes for bikepacking. Great ride and I too enjoy the comfort, fun and comments from others when I’m out riding. Surly sells some really great product. Looking to do a bike pack trip this year (2021). Look forward to your upcoming posts on that subject. I too can’t imagine having another bike for all of the same “all around” versatility. Live in Chicago burbs so mostly flat. Jealous of your Colorado access to really cool looking trails and beautiful country. I have some Vee Speedsters I will put on it for extended pavement riding. They work great. Currently using the Edna’s. Thanks for the post and keep up the great work.
@@randallwilliams5809 Hi Randall! I am excited to get into some adventure biking and bike packing this year as well, I have a lot of plans in the works on that topic. Thanks for watching and enjoy that Wednesday!!
Put a set of Shimano XT brakes on my 2021 that were only a year or two old right off the bat, not sure they're really any better, but they upped the bling factor a bit haha. I was having issues with my freehub right away, but opened it up and it was just a case of freezing temps and too much grease from the factory. Aside from that I'm loving this bike.
Glad you are loving it! Thanks for the feedback, new brakes are not imminent for me, but probably will at some point. Thanks for the feedback on the hub! Thanks for watching!
You mentioned the WTB Volt saddle and the possibility of upgrading it in the future. As someone who also has a Volt, I'm finding that although it's not bad, it's not (for me) the most comfortable saddle either. Are there any saddles you would recommend that might be more comfortable for longer rides while still being fairly light that won't break the bank? Thanks.
Another great review. I've never been into fat bikes but after watching some of your vids and you sharing your passion and enthusiasm for them, I'm getting more interested every day and definitely want to try one out. You definitely make a strong case for them, particularly the ones you've done reviews on.
Finding a really good saddle has been on my long list of things to do, but yeah they can get pricey for sure. I will tell you one saddle I really like and it’s the WTB Speed V. It’s a very budget option, in fact I’m not sure they even sell it new anymore, I bought my last one on eBay. It’s the only saddle I own that I don’t feel the need to wear padded shorts on a 15 mile ride. I have it on my Pugsley if you want to try and see it in a video. Thanks for watching, and I hope you can try a fatbike and see if it’s for you. I thought they were a gimmick until I rode a friends, bought one shortly after that!
@@ElevationEveryWeekend I'll definitely check it out. Thank you.
With the shortage of these bikes I have found and ICT two hours way in great shape at a good price. The bike is a medium and I am 6' with a 32 inseam. Do these bikes run big or true to size? Hate to make a four hour round trip to find out the bike is too small. Really good videos BTW and appreciate you posting!
Thanks! Surly bikes tend to run a bit big, that said sizing is always such a personal thing. My Pugsley is a Med, and it fits me quite well, but I did go to a Large for the ICT and I do say I prefer the large. I am 5’11” and 32” inseam. Here is the Surly size spreadsheet for reference. You are right on the line like me…
surlybikes.com/uploads/downloads/15924_SUR_Bike_Sizing_Chart_OL_VF.pdf
@@ElevationEveryWeekend yep some bikes I ride medium and others large. Might make the drive out and test ride it this weekend. Appreciate the quick reply!
Very thorough review. Would you put Jones Bars or similar on it if bike packing with it?
My LSBS told me that Surly has discontinued the ICT because it is 26" wheels. No longer available in the UK. :@(
I might consider Jones or the Surly Moloko bars, that would probably be in version 2 after getting a better feel for the bike. The ICT is definitely not DQ’d here in the States, it’s a shame if they did so in other regions! Surly did kill off the Pugsley here though. Thanks for watching!!
@@ElevationEveryWeekend The Pugsley was discontinued quite a few years ago here in the UK. You said your ICT cost you $2k. Here in UK it was typically £2,200 GBP!!! I would like to get my hands on one. but sales of them second hand are pretty rare and you have to get the right size and colour. Thanks for your reply.
Love your ICT vids. I'm set on buying one... However the entire country has zero stock 😭
Hi Eric! Don’t give up and keep looking! You will find one, just be ready to act when you find one! Thanks for watching!!
@@ElevationEveryWeekend I've reached out to every surly dealer in my tri-state area, including Philly and NYC. They've either laughed or never replied. I'm sitting on cash but not hopeful. No shop even entertained the idea of a deposit and pending order. For me it's ICT or nothing, I'll just keep on my gravel/bike packing adventures for now
@@ericrump9703 I would start calling around...everywhere. If you’re not on the Surly Facebook/social groups they can be a resource too. I am in Colorado, my brother lives in Ohio and wanted a Wednesday. Nothing in his area, I checked my shop and they had one in stock, he ordered it and had it shipped. I’m not sure when the next batch of ICT’s will be coming but if you have no luck try to find a shop that will let you order one with deposit to guarantee you get it.
What are your thoughts on a second 29+ wheelset for summer riding? I have the bluto suspension fork and am happy with it.
I think a 29+ wheelset is a great idea! I may actually do that on my Salsa, and then shift the 27.5+ on to the ICT with a lighter/faster tire. Thanks for watching!
@@ElevationEveryWeekend Do you have concerns about the lower BB with 27.5+? I've heard the logical second wheel set for a Fatbike should be on 29+ hoops, which would lower the BB the least. Any intel on this would be appreciated.
@@brentbutikofer9055 I would probably prefer 29+ to 27.5+. A 29+ wheelset is actually going to run a little larger (taller) than the stock 26x4.8”. I think my plan is do a 29+ wheelset for my Salsa, and then move the 27.5” 80mm Mulefut wheels to the ICT with a smaller lighter tire. The 27.5”x4” on my Beargrease is slightly taller than the 26x4.8”, but not by much.
I have a set of 29x3” Surly Rabbit Holes with Knards, they are the tallest wheels/tires in the garage.
I was trying to get some good info about the surly ice cream truck I'm new to fat biking and I was wondering if I should buy new as I can or just get one that's in good condition and not worry about the year
All of the ICT’s are great bikes, the current generation came out in 2019. If you can find a new then by all means get one, but right now used may be your only option, as supply is really tight right now. They are really great and highly capable bikes! Thanks for watching!
Would this ICT be a good bike to put a mid-drive electric motor on?
I’m not really up to date on the specifics of the moto conversions, however, IF the conversion part is possible, the bike itself is great and I think would be outstanding with some assist involved.
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I"ve found Stans bleeds through the tires a lot more than Orange Seal.
I have heard similar to what you indicated. I have a lot of Stans left so may make change after that. I have always had good luck with Stans on the performance side though, especially in goat head season. Thanks for watching!!
When do you think the next surly ICT will be available?
Well, the 2021 came out in December (it’s the Mint colored bike, have a video up on it). Sounds like they mostly sold through the initial release, but I’m sure there will be more coming. Get with your bike shop and try to reserve one! Thanks for watching!!