Slipping Rib Syndrome - My journey (PRE OP)
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- čas přidán 19. 07. 2020
- In this video I'm talking about my 14 year long journey toward (finally) being diagnosed with Slipping Rib Syndrome (SRS).
For as long as I can remember, I've experienced both sharp and dull pain caused by my ribs. As an early teenager I went to see all kinds of doctors, neurologists, orthopedists, physical therapists and so on. I had x-rays done and I was first told to work out more, and then to stop working out. No one could or would solve the question of the mysterious pain I was experiencing. Some even told me it was all in my head. After a few years I gave up in the seeking of being diagnosed and finding a way out of the pain, I simply learned to live with it.
When I was 25 I randomly met a naprapath at a party, and there started the actual journey of me being diagnosed. It's now about a year later and I am about to have surgery to remove the slipping cartilages that's causing my pain.
I've had two ultrasounds done, one to out rule the probabilities of anything else being wrong, and one in order to help diagnosing SRS. I've also had a cat scan done and will be running a lot of tests before surgery.
This is my first ever youtube video, so bare with me! ;-)
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Ribcage illustration by: b0red on Pixabay
Music by: EE3 on Looperman - Hudba
It is really sad how today you must google your own diagnose and then keep looking for a doctor who actually knows basics of his job enough to aknowledge your condition. You have such obvious condition and they send you home with painkillers 🤬
It seems to me that patients today often know more about such conditions than so-called professionals. Outrageous.
i agree. i understand that not every doctor knows everything about every condition there is, but they SHOULD listen to their patients and when it comes to “rare” conditions as these, at least be intrigued to find out more about it!!
This is so helpful. I lost multiple pregnancies because of this. Blood flow was suppressed. I was feeling horrible for years and been told to get on antidepressants because I clearly imagine things. Finally a massage therapist diagnosed me.
that sound like an absolute nightmare, i’m sorry you had to go through that. i’m crossing all my fingers that you get the help you deserve!!
You're not alone , literally my dad is a doctor and he minimizes my pain and I'm sick of living with limited movements I know I move but everytime I move slightly more there's a discomfort and pain
I can't thank you enough for this video. I am seeing a physiatrist in two weeks for my rib pain. I also have a winged scapula on the same side as the rib pain. I saw five different kinds of doctors in 2020 about my rib pain and all of them were clueless. I hope you finally got your surgery and that everything went perfectly. Best to you in every way!
thank you!! I am so glad to hear that I can help, in any way. I had surgery on one side in November (I have a video on it if you'd like to know more about recovery and such) and I will probably have surgery on the other side at some point this year. I hope you get a diagnosis and that everything turns out well
Exactly the same for me! My whole left side in each part of the kinetic chain is negatively affected :(
Incredible story! Thanks for sharing. I'm dealing with back pain and was also told that it's just in my head. I'm so sorry you have had to struggle for so long. Hope your surgery went well!
thank you so much! surgery went well but they only did it on one side to start with. next one will be in January 2022 😂
I concur with your doctor stories. All kinds of doctors I went to told me I had a kidney stone. They never could find the kidney stone with every imaging device there was. They decided I was trying to pass a kidney stone for 5 years. My pain would contract/squeeze on the ride side of my back ribs. On the scale of 1-10 pain scale it was a 65. Only last year a brilliant physical therapist I went to told me why my ribs would contract. He said my ribs were trying with all their power to keep my ribs still and in place. In over 10 years, not one doctor touched my back or ribs, they would just send me for tests or say I was lying about the pain to get drugs. Finally after I explained my pain to a doctor in a tiny town, he pressed on my ribs and the pain was horrendous! With no hesitation, he said: "It is your ribs." So it wasn't a 5 year old kidney stone...worthless fools! A few months ago, I found out there is a doctor that Hansen from West Virginia University trained to do the Hansen procedure in my state of Oregon! I am fighting my insurance to go to her. I live 3 hours from Bend, Oregon where she is. I have been tortured by this pain for over 15 years. It is a crime how doctors treat SRS sufferers.
i totally agree. really sad to hear about your experience 😔🌸
Trained in Slipping Rib Syndrome by Hansen in OREGON: Marika Gassner in Bend.
Could you please tell me the name of the surgeon in oregon? I am moving to Salem early 2023 and have been suffering with slipping rib for at least a decade. I would do appreciate any info on them. Thanks so much.
Thank you for sharing your story. May God speed healing to you, and may He use your videos to give hope to others who are suffering. So many of us can relate to your experience. Keep fighting the fight - you are not alone!
thank you for the support 🌷
Thank you for posting, It's good to hear you have surgery booked soon.
Suffering for so many years with this would not have been easy.
I play Rugby Union and got hit on my ribs 2 months ago and i have some idea of the pain you go through. When the muscles around that area lock up and its like being stabbed in your ribs. In my case its not SRS but its really good you posting about this as more people need to know so they can get proper treatment. Please post another video after surgery if you can.
Hi!
Yes, you're absolutely right. The pain in that area is so intense and affects your whole body. I'm sorry you're in pain and I hope you're better now, or at least soon. I am planning to post one or two more SRS related videos and would be really happy if you'll watch them. Thank you so much for your support and your comment! :-)
Hi, I had the same thing; a physiotherapist told me “no the ribs joints don’t move enough to cause pain.” Thanks for your video, I hope your second surgery works as well as the first and you get some pain relief, so you can feel well again.
thank you so much. both surgeries helped, about to have my third (hopefully last) rib surgery soon, so i really hope it helps as well :-)
stay strong sis 💕 crossing all of my fingers as well! 🤞
love you bbybro
I feel for you and hope so much that your surgery works for you.
thank you! :-)
Great video, really informative. I'd never heard of this condition prior to watching your video. ❤
trying to spread the word! it's more common than people think!
Hi :) your video really made me feel better. I have been living with severe back and side pain for years and I have popping as well. They think it’s this syndrome and the doctors also made me feel crazy. You’re so strong girl it’s so rough ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I am finally going to be seeing a specialist for it. I
happy to hear you are getting help ♥️ i hope you feel better soon, you deserve it!
Good luck! Hope it works! Never give up! Never surrender!
thank you 🌷
I have this and am definitely going to ask my neurosurgeon about surgery. I'm in severe pain every day for the past 8 years. ☹️
I'm so sorry to hear that 😔 I hope you will get the right help and that you'll get better 💕
I think I have this!! Wow! Thank you for making this video. I am sure you did it to help people just like us who think it’s a big mystery and until you post your video it really is a big mystery so thank you so much I hope you figure yourself out my ribs do not portrait like this but they do move as I push on the bottom ones and it is troublesome I hate that we are feeling thank you so much best of luck to you
best luck to you as well! yes, as i started finding out about SRS i coupe barely find any information on it. i’m happy that the awareness is getting bigger on SRS and thankful to be able to contribute to that! it would be nice to get an update from you how everything turns out 😊
I still have not been diagnosed it seems like the pain really has calm down
@@nancydee6106 well, i'm really happy to hear that! i hope it stays that way! :)
I have been dealing with the same issues for the last 7 years I only have it on my left side though. My ribs also look like yours, I got to use a lot too about them. I've noticed that lately it has gotten really bad it's been terrible for this last week and I can't do anything and it's awful. For years I tried to tell doctors how much it hurt and they kept telling me that nothing was wrong with me as well. I hope your surgery goes well or if you already had it I hope it went good. I really hope that there is a solution for this because it's probably the most awful thing I've ever had to live with.
sorry to hear you have the same problem :( have you talked to any doctors recently? i had surgery on one side about a year ago, and i'm about to do the other side as well, hopefully in the end of january. it has helped with some of the pain, but unfortunatly not 100%. i unfortunatly think that things have been permanently damaged from so many years of screwing with nerves and constant inflamation. staying optimistic though, i really hope that the next surgery will go well and that i end up with less pain. feel free to update me on your journey!
I have the same, I’m waiting for my first appointment to diagnose it. Wish the doctor Will recognize it 😢
I have SRS and back problems. I've mentioned it to two different doctors and they said they had never heard of it before. The pain is excruciating. My back is out right now and I can feel the pressure in my rib area as if it's ready to pop out.
really sad to hear it :-( has it gotten any better?
@@ljungkvistt the SRS doesn't change. My back is not completely out right now but I live with back pain constantly. I have health issues from head to toe now anyways. Oh well.
Thank you for the video! I’ve been trying to do so much research cause for 7 years I been dealing with this pain and been told I have back spasms or my ribs were probably just bruised and been given muscle relaxers or pain killers with nothing help. Many times if I jusy breath a certain way I hear a popping or cracking and it’s like I always feel this uncomfortable pain and then at times it gets super bad. And the pain goes to where I have super bad upper back pain on same side.and now it just feels like it’s getting worst where at times I’m sitting studying and actually feels like my rib is out of place. And now when I have the pain it actually looks like something is poking out and is swollen and super tender. And at times it feels like theres tightness on my chest. At time I felt crazy crying and just wanting to feel normal again without always have to feel this weird uncomfortable dull pain. Idk if it is slipping rib syndrome but ur video helped give me so much info. I hope ur doing better and please continue to post content on ur journey !
thank you so much for the response! I am so sorry to hear about your experience, it doesn't sound pleasant. to me it does sound a lot like SRS, but ofc I can't diagnose you. I hope you seek (and receive...) the help you deserve and get better soon. I am doing better, thank you! I had surgery one side in November and that has helped me a lot so far, so I will be having surgery on the other side as well. I'm staying optimistic for us! I would love to know how it goes for you 🌷
This is such an awful thing to bear. You are super brave girl! I really want to know how your feeling after your surgery? I found this video because I thiiiink I have this going on and none of the doctors I have seen are helping so far. One thought it was pleurisy and another just residual soreness from having bronchitis at least 8 weeks ago but I know neither of those are right. Today the pain is so so severe and the anti-inflammatory drugs aren’t doing anything or any pain relievers. I did the hook maneuver test on myself and it intensified the pain sooooo so horribly to an extreme level. I’ll finish my dose of anti-inflammatory but if it doesn’t go away then I’ll have to see somebody again although I have no idea what kind of doctor to go see? They all keep telling me it’s just soreness but it’s def not. There is something else going on and everything else has checked out with my organs from any x-rays and scans. I just hope to get something done soon 😰😢 I can’t imagine having this for years and years! How awful. I am so sorry for you
thank you
I feel for you!
How are you doing now have you had improvement? It's a very difficult condition to manage, its been almost a decade for me... keep pushing
Thank you for sharing. I'm certain I have this, my god it hurts.
thank you for watching :-) are you getting better?
@@ljungkvistt No. In fact it is not only the denial of slipping rib syndrome, it is that no one gives a damn. Even worse I am stuck on steroids for the rest of my life because the "doctors" kept telling me my insomnia was not because of the steroids and the one asshole that should have helped me with the referral I needed did not, because I was confrontational, and did not accept his diagnosis. I have never met a more narcissistic group of "professionals" who don't have any idea how their "medications" work. I have case study after case study to prove what I'm saying, but I am shouted down, called an "angry person", laughed at, yes they laughed at me when I addressed the steroid related side effects I suffer from. The rib has cleared up pretty good post Covid, but it still hurts if I do anything. Best of luck, your story is an inspiration to all of us suffering at the hands of myopic imbeciles.
Yep it’s taken me years and years too unfortunately the surgeon does not recommend surgery for me because of my scoliosis. He said the ribs are holding me up because my back doesn’t.
ah that sucks 😞 I hope you manage it ok ❤️
Dr Hansen at the West Virginia University invented a way to fix the ribs and keep them. Look at his videos on this website.
i’ve heard a lot about dr hansen and his technique. i couldn’t have that surgery here in norway so i went with resection since that was the only option i got 😊
Same here.
I was 13, a classmate punched me really hard, in my upper-back, and since then I had tickling feel there.
I visited 2 orthopaedics, 1st found found, my vitaminD was less, got supplement, but that tickling & clicking never went away.
2nd one was HOD of SpinalCord Hospital, New Delhi... he got me an Xrayed, said it's nothing... go home...
Eventually I searched on my own, and found it's slipping rib.
I guess doctors don't care.
Mostly because it's ligament problem, which can cure on it's own, it does, but it never gets back to perfection as it was before.
And surgeries can't bring-back the lost elasticity of a ligament.
it's all true, what you're saying. how are you doing now?
Recovery day 3 from my left side surgery... possibly left side in the future. Advice is take meds, rest, ice, repeat. Keep me posted!!
thank you for the advice!! :-)
Nothing to hide
Thank you Jjossen..I dont want to have surgery at this time. I was hoping you could tell me what physiotherapy exercises you were given?
I can see if I find the exercises I was given! I'll check after New Years, would you please remind me if you don't hear from me? :)
@@ljungkvistt sure! Happy new year.
@@534tgrg6yrtgdf hi again! i found the exercices! the instructions are in norwegian tho, hehe. should i try to find out what they are called in english or would you like me to e-mail you the photos? there are drawings explaining what to do in the photos :)
Hi I've been having having a aching knife burning pain radiates only down my left side and flank and will also at times cause pain and spasm feeling in the front of the left rib but mainly constant everyday pain down the left side if I do any kind of excersise pull ups, lifting weights running etc it will get so bad that my breathing is actually effected and I can't get enough air when I get this My heart will start beating harder than ever before but again I get the severe breathing problem and tightness when I try lift weights I have a mri of my back and they have found I have slight scoliosis and my left rib sticks out more than the right my doctor has said I may well have slipping rib syndrome but will not do any surgery and has just sent me to the pain clinic to help me deal with pain which isn't going to solve the problem I don't know what else to do I feel like pulling my hair out as I can't even go for a run without my left side and rib causing me severe pain and I'm worried now as I'm at the end of the road I don't know how the pain clinic can help me I was thinking of buying a back pod anything to help towards me getting back to lifting weights again if you can get back to me much appreciated thank you.
hi, i'm sorry for the late response, i haven't been very active for a while. how are you doing now? did you get any answers?
my doctors put me on aleve for 2 weeks for months and clearly wasn’t helping so bow i went to a message therapist who is trying to put them in place but it’s not working and a chiropractor who says he put them in place and they slipped out again or he never got it in place at all
sounds horrible :( I hope you will get proper help and that you'll be doing better soon 💕
Can i ask which ribs do you subluxate, and how many? and are you also suffer from Joints Hypermobility or EDS syndrome? I understand what you're going through, I think my condition is really similar to yours and I'm looking for any solution that will reduce my pane and prevent my ribs from subluxation...
9th and 10th ribs are affected in my case. i haven’t been diagnosed with either of them so i don’t think so. i’ve had surgery on one side and will be having surgery on the other side as well. i had the cartilage removed and that has helped a lot in my case. if you want to see how that experience was for me i have a post op/surgery video up on my channel as well ♥️ i hope you will find answers and get better!
I’m only 17 and my rib makes a little bubbling noise that i can feel not hear when I stretch backwards been happening for 6 months and I took 6 months off lifting wights to the point of little pain then instantly when I start lifting it comes back and gets worse wondering if I have this
so you feel them moving? does it happen/bother you any other time than during weight lifting?
I have same problem. I live in Fremont, CA. Do you know if any doctors treat this in CA? Millions thanks
unfortunatly i havent heard of any specific doctors there. but most thoratic surgeons should be able to help you. i know there are a few in the US that focus on this specifically, maybe you could apply to get financial support from the government if they can't treat you where you are? hoping you get better soon! :)
What country do you live in? Did u go see an osteopathic doctor who does touch therapy? I have this too but I know how to get rid of it now through work outs.
no i didn’t, i just randomly met one at a party and he said i should read up about it. i tried workouts and i’ve been to many physical therapists, unfortunately workouts have nerves worked for me. i would have preferred to not have to have surgery but now that one side is “done” i feel confident that i made the right decision 🌸
I don’t know if I have that condition but since 2008 I’ve suffered with right rib pain. I’ve had ultrasound scans which shows my gallbladder and liver is all normal. The gp won’t do any other tests and have given up on me I get given painkillers which of course didn’t help me. I get severe rib pain which walking makes pain worse because I can’t walk I’m in a wheelchair to help me go out for fresh air. I’m moving to a new area and hopefully seeing a new doctor will take this seriously and do x rays anything to see what’s going on and why I’m suffering with this pain urgh it’s a nightmare as I keep searching online my symptoms which say it’s either fibromyalgia or gall stones but gall bladder is healthy so not sure what this is
i’m sorry to hear that you are in a lot of pain. the one thing that really helps with anything health related is to have a doctor who takes you and your symptoms seriously. you deserve that. i hope you get a better dr soon and that your pain will get better! 🌹
@@ljungkvistt thank u
Did mention nerve blocks? How did those work for you of you tried?
i didn’t have any nerve blocks before surgery, but first week post op i did. my pain was so severe that nerve block was the only thing that helped. it did help but it wasn’t a permanent pain reliever - the effect only lasted a few hours 🌷 i have a video about the surgery and 2 first weeks post op on my channel if you want to know more, or of course feel free to just ask me!
@@ljungkvistt I’m so sorry that you had to endure that. Thank you for sharing your journey. I’m sure it’s helping a lot of people. I hope you find some relief and that you’re able to enjoy the important things in life
My daughter is 16 and suffering from this. We can not find a DR. What kind of surgeon did you g to? I hope you are on the mend.
hi!
i’m sorry to hear that your daughter is struggling with SRS, it’s truly painful. what you want to find is a competent thoratic surgeon, preferably someone who is familiar with the condition. there are different procedures when it comes to treating SRS surgically so i suggest reading up on them and considering which one would fit best for her. gather up as much information as possible when you meet up with a doctor: not many knows about this and has to be taught on the subject. sending you good luck and feel free to ask me anything and updating me in the process!
If your daughter is still suffering I highly suggest seeing Dr Adam Hansen at West Virginia University or Dr Klinkner At the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota I had a new surgery done on me 1 year ago and it involves using sutures to tie the ribs back in place and not taking ribs out I’m 13 and had one of the worst conditions on record and I play sports so I couldn’t have three ribs taken out and can’t play football again this surgery has a very high succes rate.
Hello, i have experienced since last year that my 8, 9 rib slip from cartilage. What can i do?
hi! as i mention in the video there are different steps you can take when it comes to treatment. 1) physiotherapy 2) anti inflammatory drugs 3) intercostal nerve block and 4) surgery. i've heard from many people who have also been helped by going to a chiropractor. i have had surgery on one side, and i will have surgery on the other side as well. it has helped me a lot so far! i have a video on that as well if you want to check it out. please let me know how it goes for you, i'm crossing my fingers you'll get better!
Bummer about the shape your ribs took. I notice sometimes my right lower ribs curl up like a wave. Pain pills didn't stop my pain either. What an option, to be stoned or asleep all your life. I have nuclear bomb anger at haughty heartless doctors...
it’s very frustrating not to be heard, listened to or believed by professional people who are support to be there to help you. i hope you will get proper help. how are you doing now? 💕
@@ljungkvistt Hey. I went to Gassner 3 hours from where I live a week ago! She did thorough exam and diagnosed bad SRS on my right and also on the left but not as bad on left. Strange how slipping 9 and 10 ribs cause me excruciating spasms on right side in the back. Doctors can't comprehend 'referred pain'. I was brutally repeatedly assaulted and it wrecked my ribs, spine and pelvis. I am a female. Not genetic for me. How is your life going? Do your ribs make it hard to breath sometimes? Best to you! PS: David Copperfield is a book written by my favorite author. I am a writer too. Thus my tag.
Did your ribs used to look normal before you had this problem? Because my ribs look normal but I’m almost 100% sure I have slipping rib syndrome because I’ve been in pain since October and I’ve been getting popping in my rib and they can’t figure out what’s wrong with me I’ve been to 2 urgent cares, an ER, and my primary care 2 times. And they couldn’t find anything so I’m pretty sure this is what I have..but my pain is like a little higher than those 2 bottom ones though...
I'm not sure if they've always looked like that to be honest, but I know many people with SRS who have totally normal looking ribs, so it's not unlikely that you have it. popping ribs sound very much like a clear symptom. have you tried the hooking maneuver? can you feel them moving? my pain was also located higher up than where they were slipping, there are so many nerves and muscles in there that it's all affected. I hope you get a diagnosis and I would love to hear how it goes for you :)
Did it affect your breathing while laying down and cause chest tightness also?
@@travismckinnon2494 yes, sometimes it affects my breathing. it's difficult to explain but it almost feels like having an anxiety attack, like someone is standing on my chest. it's very unpleasant :(
I have a weird burning pain in my abdomen and ribs bilaterally. Please share if you get pain in your lower ribs with burning pains. It gets worse while laying down.
yes, I've experienced both dull pain and stabbing (/burning) pain as well. laying down, especially on my stomach is really painful sometimes
@@ljungkvistt That's me! I've had this mystery pain for years and it started after a car accident. It mimics gastritis, IBS, GERD with the burning pain, etc. been told it's psychosomatic. This condition can be easily documented with having the person do a crunch motion under ultrasound and if the bones move too much during the motion, it confirms it. No doctor is willing to perform this test though.
my lower ribs also hurt but it's not too tight, it's not even on my right ribs will chiropractic know the slipped rib syndrome?
if anyone, i do actually guess that a chiroprator will know about it..ive hear many stories of people being "diagnosed" that way. i think it's worth checking out!
In the surgery are they removing part of a rib or securing them in place together? I’ve heard of both solutions being done.
To be completely honest with you, i’m not sure yet. I only met with the surgeon for a very short consultation in january. He said they would do surgery, but not specifically what. I will update you though, as soon as i know! :-)
Hi again!
The plan is for them to remove the cartilages that are slipping. I will be talking to my doctor about the options before the surgery, but I can either accept the offer or not have surgery. I will take what I get! :-)
I’m glad you are going to get the surgery. I really hope it relieves your pain. My daughter has slipping rib and she’s 16. The pain is mild so far and I hope it stays that way. We have thought about going across the country to see a well known surgeon but she’s not ready to explore that option yet. Good luck with your surgery and I hope to see a follow up video in a couple months that shows all is much better!
@@scarletgil1 Thank you! I'm crossing my fingers that her pain doesn't get worse. It's sad she has it but in one way good to know what it is :-) I will make an update video post op!
I've only heard of the latter being done relatively recently.
I'm sorry you were told it is in your head. Sadly not uncommon.
sadly not :(
How is things going with the pain may I ask
hi! it's going better on the side where i had surgery, but the same (or maybe even worse) on the side where i am yet to have surgery. all the pain isn't gone but i don't think it ever will tbh :-)
Did you ever get really bad pain in your back?? I
Yes, absolutely. It’s a part of my daily struggle, but sometimes it gets worse. If i sit down for more than two hours, the muscle on the left side of my spine (left is my most problematic side when it comes to my ribs) contracts somehow and leaves me with rib and back pain for days.
I hate when doctors say take pain killers or it is because of stress...
yes, i'm still being told those things and it makes me so frustrated :(
Im certain this is the condition I am dealing with. Not near as extreme as yours. Mine is on my left side so my doctors always gave my PPIs and H2 blockers, focusing too much on my stomach even though I always said i think its more of a mechanical issue. I have horrible nerve tingling at night and cant sleep sometimes because of it. I see a chiropractor for upper back issues, I thing the subluxations of those ribs are whats causing my SRS. I also have a “calcified bridge” between two of my ribs, I am seeing my doctor and going more in depth about it today. I hope you are better!!
I think I have this going on. Did you have the surgery?
sorry to hear, are you troubled by it? yes, i’ve had surgery on one side and will probably have it on the other side as well :-)
Joanna if you still don’t have any surgeons and is till suffering I highly suggest seeing Dr Adam Hansen at West Virginia University or Dr Klinkner At the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota I had a new surgery done on me 1 year ago and it involves using sutures to tie the ribs back in place and not taking ribs out I’m 13 and had one of the worst conditions on record and I play sports so I couldn’t have three ribs taken out and can’t play football again this surgery has a very high succes rate.
Which surgery did you have
i've had two rib resections and one rib fix!
Did you have heartburn reflux symptoms
a little bit from time to time but i’m not sure if that is related to the slipping ribs. are you experiencing this?
I have one side popping out always the left side and extreme bloating and shortness of breath it also hurts a little bit
have you had it checked out by a doctor/do you have a diagnose for it?
How are you doing
i've been better unfortunately. both rib resections went well but i had a rib fix later on that has left me with more pain. hoping to have it fixed in the future!
you are a pretty girl !
thank u :)
You’re beautiful
thank you 😊
I don’t know if you do direct contact but I’m losing my mind and I think I need your help. Please may I leave an email or point of contact
hi, i'm sorry for the late response - i haven't been very active here lately. have you tried writing to me on my instagram? if not, feel free to do so! @jjossen
@@ljungkvistt we spoke thank you so much for everything still today you’re the greatest 💞
@@brockberkins2720 thought i recognized you! :D thank you man
How are u now ?
hi! i'm doing better thank you. i've had surgery on one side that was successful som now i'm waiting for surgery on the other side. hoping for good results!
@@ljungkvisttkeep updating us hun.
@@lindabrincken1677 will do!!!
Hee ben jij toevallig Nederlands. Ik heb dit ook namelijk en ken niemand die het heeft en weinige weten ervan
Hetzelfde hier! Laat wat horen svp
hi!
i am swedish, living in norway. :-) please write to me (in english preferably!) if I could help you with anything!