10 INSANE Things That Were CUT During Development | Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 15. 06. 2024
- In todays Mass Effect Legendary Edition video, we'll be looking at some pretty insane ideas and concepts that were cut during the development of the Mass Effect trilogy. Among these are the Reaper elcors, Tali'Zorahs real face and that one time Shepard became corrupted and evil.
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00:00 - Intro & Early Turians
00:43 - Evil Shepard (Indoctrinated)
02:08 - Husk Illusive Man
02:19 - the Huo-Mon
03:11 - Reaper Elcor
03:43 - Early Shadow Broker
04:43 - Inusannon (Early Protheans)
05:19 - Tali's real face
06:13 - Early EDI
06:56 - The Catalyst Chambers - Hry
07:34 - Oops, that's the Citadel. Still, the point still stands đ
Ye exactly.
But the citadel is kind of a mass relay tho. Just a really big one. So half right.
@@RedismycolorImDeadpool117 it's the main one yeah. But ya know, I just wanted to be a pain in the ass lol
Does not Proto-Tali remind you of a certain dual-wielding space witch?
@@patrikbengtsson3883 i didnt play halo
I was actually kinda disappointed that we havnt gotten all reaperfied races of ME, could you imagine a reaper Vorcha or volus?
Exactly what our boy garrus is wondering.
roley poley Reaper
Even the reapers donât want stupid volus.
Or Quarians. I imagine them as being fused together with their suits. Stuff of nightmares.
@@thatsicklypup the reapers could use their weakened immune systems to have them evolve and adapt from their surroundings maybe. Like a sort of genetically-engineered cancer that the reapers control the growth of, with the quarians being seen simply as an easily manipulable host.
I was always curious to see what other races would look like after being turned into reaper abominations.
Without the rush, I wonder if we would have gotten more designs.
Indeed... Would've been great seeking the Elkor providing support alongside Asari as shields.
One thing I'd particularly love to see is a 'fly-through ' video for the citadel
@@PragmaticOptimist_N7 Totally I mean remember the Elcor ambassador from ME 3 when he said the nickname for their army as living tanks because of the heavy weaponry they carry? I mean it gave an idea of what their forces could have looked like with a pair of gatling guns and a heavy cannon, as well as some of whom bring in the artillery on the move with VI-assisted infantry.
considering there's 2 types based on turians
*Reaper elcor*
Menacingly: I will tear you apart, Shepard.
It's the BioWare curse, unfortunately: they make a killer game, we love it, and then EA rushes them, which inevitably leads to a disappointing sequel somewhere along the way. ME2 improved upon ME1 in every way imaginable but they dropped the ball on the original ending in ME3. Had they had more time to fully flesh it out, I think it would've been better even before Legendary Edition.
The adjutants from Omega DLC of ME3 are speculated to be huskified Inusannon in the codex entry so I'm glad they didn't totally abandon the concept but the Huo-mons look like the stuff of nightmares.
Oh yeah. I remember reading one of the comics for Mass Effect where the Adjutants first appeared. They really do look like the Inusannon
Well if you haven't played Mass Effect there's a weird uncanny valley with the Asari, the Turians are as menacing as an Emu and the Hanar are unsettling. Krogans are somehow adorable, never got a bad vibe looking at them at first.
Turians are like water bears they can resist nuclear fallout and other things but die from the things that actually want to kill them but yeah krogan are pretty adorable maybe because they are a prey species or maybe just their little tail really kills their intimidation
@@puffyandjimmers its not so much they are a prey species, they evolved on a planet that was basically Australia on mega steroids, and then nuked it, basically anything that wasn't a Thresher Maw was prey to something else
this one doesn't like being called unsettling this ones people are as sexy as they come human its the enkindlers wishes
Hard disagree
Krogan always look like they are smiling.
5:20 I'm telling you guys, the Tali Remastered mod face and picture are the best for Tali. Well, I do give credit for the artwork with Tali having hair one. I like that too.
Yeah true. But ain't she cute with that hair? ;)
@@MrHulthenYes she is. I love long hair too.
I just wanted to let people know of the Remastered mod version. In that she has hair too shown on the photo but shorter then the artwork. Faces of both look very good though.
I greatly question why the Quarians would have hair as that is just unnecessary growth in their suits that they need to do a lot of upkeep on.
I'm not gonna lie I personally think think she looks cuter as Matt's depiction, I also think sharks are cute so the video kinda made the design way more appealing after that comparison, but yeah I actually love it, I actually wish it was the cannon look
It wouldn't make much sense for a species like the Quarians, who evolved on a quite arid world, to have hair. Especially now that they've been in a sterile and clean environment for several generations. Hair falls off, carries dandruff and other things - all translates to dust, which could cause health complications and damage the filters they have in their ships and suits. Original concept art for Quarians is so much better than just humans with three fingers and toes, and bowed hind-legs.
I dont actually mind the original tali photo. The idea that quarians are humanoid with different variations in skin tones from light purple to bits of darker blue and that determins what color their visors are is pretty cool. Also she fits long dark black hair perfectly
Same here i liked that old pic of tali then the new one but people have to complain about muh alien gotta look like some tentacle monster
Iike the original Tali more as well. Altogeth I always imagined her to be purple. The final version is ok but it is too human looking. I even like better the old pricture where at least she had those weird lines in her skin.
Yeah the concept art where they kinda have a smooth and flat face with no nose makes no sense because you could literally see talis nose through the mask
@@puffyandjimmers well by then she wouldn't have a nose so it doesnt really matter
The idea that even ailens take on a more humanoid appearance makes sense to me if their the more dominate race in their section of the galaxy. Thumbs and fingers basically made us the apex predator on earth so it makes sense similar races did the same. So having quarians look very humanoid wouldnt bother me to much.
I've said this before and I'll say it again:
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS DELAY MASS EFFECT 3 FOR ONE YEAR, CASEY HUDSON!!
!!!
EA: noidontthinkso
Bioware doesn't have total control when a game launches. The publisher gets final say. I recommend you watch a video called EA Launches a Game to get an accurate idea of the process.
That's EA bro
That Image with the reapers looking into the catalyst is somehow beautiful yet terrifying.
It gives me that ick that i get from bugs that seem to stare at you. It's pretty terrifying tbh.
@@zafelrede4884 yh, thats why beautiful but also terrifying.
I wanted an Elcor husk with 2 bonded Vorcha husks on back.
Eugh, gross đ
Hell no...
Modder here, here's some more info for you, maybe for a future video.
- The Geth dropping to assist you in the final ME3 mission. Same with each character that appeared in the side missions.
- Ken&Gabby's original recruitment in ME3
- Legion being an early squadmate in ME2. He's fully supported as a squadmate, voice lines included, if you use a save editor to get him early.
- Final boss fight with The Illusive Man
- Javik's original role in ME3
- Characters having much more flexible survivability in ME2's Suicide Mission. Characters like Zaeed, Grunt or Samara could all be successful fire team leaders with no casualties under certain circumstances.
Thanks man!
Oh yeah Tali, Shadow Broker and Catalyst chamber concept arts are really cool. Maybe if EA gives more time for Mass Effect 3 development, maybe we can see more of these in game.
7:09 that would've been amazing in game if the whole battle stoped when you had to make you're choice and all the reapers just
Stare in at you
My headcanon on the original photo is that it was taken in one of the clean rooms on the flotilla, and the hair and background massive lens flare are added/manipulated to give the appearance of living suit-free on Rannoch. It's a kind of traditional format for significant life events, like graduation photos, but they're a more aspirtational "this is what we're working towards" thing.
I really wish they put more missions where you right with your allies in larger battles against the reapers instead focusing more on Cerberus on 3. Like the dekunna evacuation could have been an actual mission where you see Elcor mowing down husks and cannibals with Gatling fund and rockets from their backs while helping escort their civilians to shuttles and the Normandy.
The original concept of Tali is what should have been chosen. It represents what living inside those suits could really do to you and it would've made her look more alien.
I mean, Quarians already have the hands with 3 fingers, the strange looking legs, and the bits of language that donât go through translators (my guess is everyone has some sort of translator to understand other species dialects) and since the Quarian fleet is never in territory populated by others, they are the only ones with untranslated words like Boshtâet and Keelah Saâlai (not sure if thatâs the correct spelling but you get the point) ultimately, Quarians are alien enough compared to all the races of the Milky Way
I want BioWare to introduce more species in the next ME. Andromeda is very big and there might be species that try to hide away from the Kett
Going off the trailer for ME4, it seems like BioWare is dropping the Andromeda storyline because of all the Flak it got
@@QuickSilverKitsune from what I've read and heard BioWare will link these two stories together
In Andromeda, BioWare introduced an entirely new galaxy inhabited by only 2 sentient species, which turned out to be the same species by the end of the game. They really seem to have forgotten what Mass Effect is about in that entry.
@@Handelo Tbf though, in Andromeda you only explore the Helius Cluster, not the entire galaxy. I would say it kind of adds up. Not a huge defender of the game by any means but I do enjoy it, just not as much as the other ones. I also wish they didn't do the body snatchers/transform your species trope again with the Kett. Mass Effect trilogy already did it with the Reapers.
@@joshmarshall8588 the worst scenario I imagine is that other species from many parts of Andromeda has already been conquered and transformed by the Kett, which is terrified
It feels like the first concept design of the shadow broker was ultimately changed over to be what Javik and the protheans would eventually look like, plus Tali's original design sorta reminds me of Asajj Ventress from star wars. Don't know if I'm the only one that thinks this but it could be possible, also I feel Jack as a character was inspired by the tragic origin of Ventress.
I might just be a freak, but I like the design they orginally thought of for Tali the best. She's cute, but actually looks like an alien. I would be happy to romance her still. I would have liked to see reaperfied versions of all of the races. I think the Edi design that he said looked like a mannequin, the one with the hood specifically, is badass, but not right for Edi. And the Hue-mon, or however you spell it, don't horrify me as much as they seem to everyone else here. I think had they toned the design down a bit that could have made for a very fascinating race. From the description they sound kinda cute actually, just so different from every other race, but trying to fit in and make friends.
I kinda agree with the Tali bit, but only to the version with hair though I like the legendary edition version most, itâs clearly not an edited stock pic and itâs kinda what I always imagined the Quarians looking like
@@miragemain105 I personally don't like how human they look, it feels like a cop out to me. I think they should look humaniod still, but I felt they should look clearly alien as well. We were all already invested in Tali enough that unless they f***ed it up terribly they could have gone pretty far afield. Hell Garrus is the most popular husbando in the series and he is clearly not human. I have seen some really amazing fan art of what people would have done differently.
The Huo-Mon could have been a fun race idea for Andromeda. Have them be a race that originally lived as a single mass but after encountering the Milky Way races, they try to emulate them and humans especially. That includes the good and the bad, but could have been a fun idea
I love the cyborg Shepard idea, of them slowly being corrupted by Reaper tech but I doubt itâd ever work as a game mechanic for an RPG.
It would as it could have been like shadow of the Colossus. Though unlike that one Shepard's choices could influence the change from parasitic to symbiotic.
I think that would have made Shepard too dark and unrelatable to the player. I love it but I can see why they scraped it for mass appeal.
LoL how much you wanna bet Shep being cyborged is gonna be in the next one.
Good stuff. That huo mon race looks terrifying.
yeah, absolute nightmares. thanks btw! : D
I don't think the synthesis ending makes mass relays obsolete, remember even the reapers have to use the relays for ftl travel.
Just like us they use them as a highway or shortcut
MrHulthen actually omitted some info at this part. You can read the full blog online, but here's a direct quote from that part:
"This image was purely speculative on my part. I imagined the galaxy changed by the synthesis choice. Because life and technology were joined (and I didnât know the Mass Relays would be destroyed yet) I imagined that there would be no more need for space ships. Any creature could just link in with the nearest relay and jump to any world they chose, surface to surface. This would start changing the biology of every creature in the galaxy as they would no longer be limited to any one environment. Here are some Asari/Salarian/Human/? in the far, far future taking a carefree stroll in the grass."
It's interesting that early concepts blurred the lines between organics and synthetics so much, allowing for an organic to upload there conscious between star systems, going so far as to no longer even see the distinction between races. Terrifying stuff. In my opinion the synthesis ending goes against the core values that the series conveys. Merging all into one singular biomass; discarding the ideals, the culture, the very essence of all sentient life. Regardless of the consent of an entire galaxy.
The star child is a liar, an unreliable narrative. A rampant machine set to solve an impossible task, its reapers, a pathetic attempt at a final solution. Like asking a child to make the perfect meal, so they just throw every ingredient they can find into the mixing pot and stir. Every flavor washed away, all the majesty of life lost completely.
A woeful pathetic attempt, the leviathans final failure. It's "synthesis" a last ditch effort to irreparably fuck a dying galaxy. All biodiversity lost. A so called Utopian paradise, if only they knew what horrors lie in wait.
At 7:40 u said "... What looks like a mass relay in the background" i think that looks like the citadel because theres two arms stretched out like the citadel where as a mass relay has two arms one on top of the other
Reaper elcor: "menacingly" I am the harbinger of your destruction.
7:35 correction, that's not a mass relay, it's the citadel.
Just thought I should point that out. Lol
Menacingly: I will tear you apart, Shepard.
The shadow broker concept art can be seen on the walls of the lab from the leviathan dlc
Yup!
Maybe they were supposed to be prior shadow brokers
The Golden Lotus concept is beautiful and so much more interesting
Absolutely great video as ever as well!
"Let me touch you" that artist and I share a sense of humor and a singular brain cell lol.
2:13 I couldâve gone my whole life without thinking about his âTiny TIMâ thank you very much
The original tali concept makes sense to me I always imagined the quarians being considerably pale due to never being exposed to the sun. Also possibly hairless to make living in a suit more convenient
That early concept to tali is horrifying, thats why my headcanon for tali's face is the one from the TRM mod for the OG trilogy đ
Indeed, SharkyTali đ
We need more terrifying less humanoid races in mass effect, why does everything have to be super cutesy? The angaras have puppy dog and cat faces for Christ sake đ€Šââïž
@@matthewanthony4606 i agree lol
Well, real aliens would be something much more horrifying probably so i think Talis original design is very good. Not too humanoid, but also not something made by Lovecraft
They also kept the same look for all harbingers. During the makings of the game each one was suppose to be unique because the harvanger explaind that each Reaper is "independent country"
7:40 Exactly what I was thinking.
Like Venom but with more tech.
I always wondered why we didn't see Reaper versions of the Elcor and Hanar. Honestly, I don't think either would be creepier than the Reaper creatures we did see.
NO! The romance between Joker and EDI must never be tarnished, infact there should be more romances between other characters besides the protag in future games.
Hello everyone!
I was always so curious to see how they thought and designed the characters we love throughout the games development!
What a fascinating video!
Thank you so. Much
I have a question : does someones has any infos (or maybe the title) of the background sound in the last part of the video (the part about the catalyst)
Seems like a slowed version of the map theme but it is gorgeous to me! Definitely want to listen more it!
Keep up the good words and take care of you pals!
I'm glad i picked up legendary an played through, Now where's ME4! Or 5!
Mass Effect 4?
I have good news and bad news ...
You know that mass relay in the background at the end was actually the citadel
5:45 Hell Yeah now that's a Tali worth romancing!
I think the first concept art of the Shadow Broker can be found on the wall in Dr. Bryson's lab when you play the Leviathan DLC.
Reaperized Elcor would've been terrifying and amazing.
Only if LE was actually remastered. It would have been awesome to see some cut content restored.
I always thought the adjutants in the omega dlc were reaperized Elcor since they were hulking massive creatures with those thick but not too long tentacles on their face.
Exactly because of those tentacles people think they are inusannon husks, judging by how they look like from the statues on Ilos
The reaperised "Elcor" looks more Krogan to me tbh
Reaper Elcor "Tyrant" and Shadow Broker concept art are fire.
Becomes a god reluctantly sitting on a throne⊠where have I heard that before.. ?
Correct mi if I'm wrong, but isn't Codex specifically noted, that quarians (exept humans) are the only race that have head hair. I might be wrong about Codex, but i played OG trilogy so many times, I'm 100% sure this fact was mentioned somewhere in the game. Didn't play Legendary edition yet.
The huge flawed on the indoctrination theory is that the Prothean VIs that can scenes even a little bit of indoctrination such as in Illos and Thesia didn't trace Shepard to be indoctrinated
6:37 The EDI on the left looks kinda like Ash from Titanfall 2/Apex Legends.
The old concept for the shadow broker looks just generic "evil alien" imo. The yahg are actually really interesting, as they are essentially super observant, super aggressive pack animals. Its easy to see how one would make a good shadow broker
6:08 Out of all the art of Tali's face, this one I don't mind the most. The long white hair goes well with her face
The turians remind me of scaley cats. Never birds
A bald tali looks like Assage Centre's from star wars
And the elcor reaper looks bad ass!
For me the turians always looked turtle like with their becs. They remind me a lot to my turtle
@@anvime739 yea I can see turtles too .
well they do purr when they talk
Asajj Ventress
Heh heh reminds of Grunt's commentary back at the Citadel with the lively party scenario after how he hit the showers hard literally.
Romancing EDI ...? Yeah, you lost me there but Dr Chakwas... Well... Maybe đđ
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Being In lesbians with a space ship? Sign me up!
@@MrHulthen I'm all in for her accent
@@MrHulthen Posh Tottie.. Surely I'm not the only one who thought this... Especially after we got drunk Sharing memories and provided one .. Actually TWO of my favorite quotes moments in the whole trilogy...
1.
"Or, hell, maybe it's you. Shepard, our immovable center. A place for a person to stop and catch *her* breath. Or maybe I'm just happily drunk. Would it hurt if it was simple like that for once?"
2. (my fave out of the two)
Shepard ~ To the people we care for.
Chakwas ~ May we never take them for granted
These lines are so much đŻ
And admiral Hackett⊠Hackett out
Mass Effect 3 had a big missed opportunity with not letting us have a mission on Dekuuna. Fighting alongside Elcor with their giant miniguns and rocket launchers would have been so fun. There should have been way more missions where you actually fight with your allies in big battles.
If you're going to base the Shadow Broker on a Greek God, it should be Athena IMO. You need a blend of conflict AND intelligence to do that job. Or Eris, but as a fun twist on the idea of discord and order.
Okay, but on the Huo-maan, we've fought plenty of fleshy monsters before in games. Imagine having to interact one outside of combat. Like, this walking nightmare is just trying to go about its day on the Citadel or something, so you have to be civil with it.
Love the reaper elcor designs
3:16 is more looks like a krogan rather than elcor because of the bipedal, the leg bent and huge hump. Elcor have larger front leg. the smaller one probably a salarian.
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It would have been nice if BioWare had made an outfit for EDI featuring a Human paint job like Dr. Eva Coray had. After all, this model was an infiltration unit.
Personal opinion, but Edi looks better with the Edi uniform mod, which gives her an alliance uniform
I would like to have seen the biotic god as a reaper.. would have been cool.
*breathes* YOU ARE NOTHING
*breathes* BUT A GENETIC
*breathes* MUTATION
4:30 RIP Tali'Zorah vas Normandy
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I'm really happy they didn't go with the more alien looking Tali. That would have been a disturbing reveal haha.
Would be so awesome and creepy to have all the Reapers stop and watch you while you talk to the Catalyst.
"Headcanon Tali" looks like something that would have its face split open like a flower filled with teeth. Kinda glad it didn't become actually canon.
So Iâm on my second play through of Mass Effect Legendary edition and Iâm currently trying to decide who I should romance, Ashley or Liara. I picked Liara my first play through but what about this time? Liara is my personal favorite and always was on the original version, but a side of me wants to romance Ashley. Someone help me decide please
Ashley's romance is well written for ME1 but her prejudiced attitude makes romancing her in ME2 & ME3 an excercise in frustration.
Also you can start a romance with Liara in ME3 in the first few visits to the citadel if you turn down Garrus & Ashley if you previously romanced either in ME2 & it's great coz Liara is heavily involved in ME3's plot.
Other ME2 LI's like Tali might comment if romanced that "you're not exactly alone" but it has no other consequences.
@@janeshepard9549 Alright, thanks!
Ashley in ME2 and 3 is like having a crisis of faith, she spent her entire career following orders and not deviating from Alliance loyalty. Her arc is really satisfactory but she suffered from a rushed development as well.
Replay the game as a Renegade with Ashley ;)
@@MrHulthen Someday ;)
I don't think the Reapers were waiting for judgement, but they were all enforcing their will on Shepherd to not destroy them. Don't forget that the Leviathan are capable of enforcing thier will too.
I kinda wish they had made some of these updates to the LE. As long as it felt like a enhanced directors cut edition
I want to see the Huo-mon in Mass effect 4
Well, there is only space for ONE god of war in the Milky Way - and the name is -Blasto- Commander Shepard!
Well, I don't care for the concept art for the endings since none of them were real and Shepard was just hallucinating. Seriously, Shepard just head-bobbing along to everything Star Bastard had to say?! That's the Reaper hive-mind, my dude. It's going to lie to you to save itself.
I missed the Reaper taunting "I am an indoctrinated god!"
Jo, shepard has become the god emperor of mankind. That's kinda cool.
I think ME fans were robbed not getting to see other Reaper designs like the Elcor or Volos. I can kind of understand why we never got to see any Quarian Reapers as they were mainly confined to the Flotilla, but we shouldâve seen more Reaoer variants especially later in the game when the Reapers had controlled most of the galaxy.
In my headcanon Quarians have rastafari dreadlocks.
This ideas had a lot of potential, specially for the indoctrination theory
Yeah, the Corrupted Shepard would literally have been that
3:50 Eh, I like the arms and mask, but I like final product more.
I may be in the minority, but I prefer the old stock photo of Tali over the legendary pic.
Me too. I like the weird lines in her skin
she could've been a real bombshell tbh (she already is tho lol)
Reaper Quarians and Hanar wouldâve been cool
"Let me touch you" đđđ
MrHulthen: My only complaint is that you can't romance EDI.
Me: AGREED.
Why didnât the Elcor reaper look like a tank, you know like how the elcor ambassador explained his fleet in ME3??? Basically them with big guns on their backs, with auto turrets is how he described them.
>Shepards actions put humans on the top of the Reapers shitlist
>Reapers turn humans into... Husks
Were the Reapers coping?
even shepherd doesnt sleep with the pilot's waifu
Villainously, prepare to to harvested, human.
Man... Shepard gradually being changed by Reaper tech was a solid concept. They should have ran with that.
Imagine if Bioware stayed with Microsoft and did not sell themselves to Ea. It woulda been bloody glorious
That's not a Mass Relay in the background, that's the Citadel
right!
The Thing similar looking alien would have been cool, finding a way to accept someone that's different from you.
Love the bold tali
turians always resembles ((to me) to sector 9 aliens.
The first half of 3 is really well done but as the game moves on it seems to get progressively lazy. Really wish they were allowed to release it when it was finished and polished.
I don't want the option to romance EDi And never did I thought her and Jeff or joker Made the perfect side character romance
I don't know what you mean by your very last statement about the synthesis ending and not needing mass relays. They would still be needed to physically move something through space. Now if synthesis makes each individual's body into a platform that hosts consciousness, then I suppose you could just send your data. It's never really explained in ME1 2 or 3 how FTL communication is done (one exception: the Normandy SR-2 has a quantum entangled comm device, but it's a hotline to the Illusive man and not capable of reaching another source unless another quantum entangled pair of plot devices is created.) It seems to me that light speed communication is only in play when the writers remember that it's a thing, then it's not when they don't want it to be. It's very much an issue for the Andromeda colonists... 600 year communication lag and all that, but during Omega's D-Day, Aria signals her fleet through the relay (by using the relay?) instantly. Anyway, back to your statement about being a demigod after synthesis... it basically makes people into geth. Though, I really don't believe the reapers would allow organics any agency in any scenario. If you really think about the 3 (main) endings, both synthesis and control could very well be lies just to get Shepard to kill himself... having one's DNA rewritten to make it like synthetics sounds an awful lot like becoming a husk, or becoming exactly like the Borg of Star Trek. The catalyst is not trustworthy, and the way the thing smirks as Shepard chooses to vaporize himself by becoming a human circuit tells me that it's reaffirmed it's superiority over organics. EDI would understand... The Geth would understand, as it is the exact mirror to Legion's argument... dare I say, a paragon Shepard could convince them to volunteer. Anyway, I'm off topic now. Keep up the great work!
That came from the artist himself, as he projected beings of synthesis basically just jumping bodies (atleast that's how i perceive it)
I like the art for tali with hair more the alien concept is creepy. And in wish we could romance EDI as well..and other characters like kasumi.
What is a head cannon? Sounds perverse.