Highlights - Leinster Rugby v Stade Toulousain Semi-finalâHeineken Champions Cup 2022/23
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I'm a Stade Toulousain fan. I'm sorry for the result and I think our record of 5 Champions Cup will be joined by Leinster. Anyway, Leinster deserve to join 5 wins because they're an outstanding side and they express a wonderful rugby style. Well done, Leinster: congratulations and best wishes for the Final.
Good to see a non toxic fan, the result regardless of decisions was always looking like a leinster win today which it proved. Leinster will get their 5th star and deservedly sit on top with toulouse once again, real European teams with history, not like that oil club toulon years ago
â@@jacobking3211 Why do you have to shoe in your fake god?
Thank you
Dave1071 Merci beaucoup monsieur đ
@@darraghtormey1500 : thank you sir. I'm a french-italian rugby supporter but I'm, most of all, a rugby lover. Currently, irish rugby is the best. It would be great to see in St.Denis, by the end of october, a RWC final between France and Ireland.
Would love to commend the commentator, heâs multifaceted - he does all sports but his passion for rugby shone through here. Showed a good level of passion throughout
tru
Sorry I can't agree. Yes he's getting better to be fair to him . But I feel he goes off talking about things at the wrong time in games trying to show he knows things about a player and then falls behind the play. It's the pundits job to talk about that stuff in down time in games not the Commentator. A good Commentator's job is to keep you informed on is to keep you informed on what's happening on the pitch you should be able to leave the room and listen and know what's going on and where on the pitch the game is ! Not come back in the room and have missed 10 passes or 30 metres of play. But hopefully he keeps learning đ for example for the first Try he mentioned Jack Willis in the move and feels he has to say who had a Difficult 6 nations . But while he's saying that the move is getting closer to a try but he's missing Excitement of the build-up because he's decided to bring up the player had a Difficult 6 nations which has nothing to do to do with the game or move at that time..
to me (a supporter of neither side), the game was a lot closer than the scoreline suggested and I felt that some crucial decisions went in Leinster's favour, more than Toulouse that could have changed the outcome of the game.
For me - 3:24, Porter does not come through the middle of the maul, just hangs on the side/looses bind early, therefore offside when pressuring Toulouse 22, which would disallow the try that Leinster score just afterwards.
This puts the game at 20 - 7 and when Toulouse score the next try, it would go to 20 - 14 and both teams are still chasing the win, which changes the dynamic of the game significantly.
Porter does take the player over the vertical, and at the very least should have been checked by the TMO, and probably should have been a yellow card. Which again changes the dynamic further. And puts a lot more pressure on Leinster and opens the game up for Toulouse. (Who would have been only a converted try behind if previous try was disallowed). Even as it stood, 2 scores behind against 14, you would fancy Toulouse putting scores on the board.
And then we come to the second yellow. For me there's nothing in it. Wayne Barnes is standing right in front of it and doesn't bat an eyelid. VDF is coming in high and aggressive. For me it's just a rugby incident, play on. At this point the game is ruined. Leinster get an attacking platform and an extra man, and score a try right away. At this level of competition, any advantage is massive and Leinster go on to profit from it.
On a side note, I felt Toulouse were stronger in the scrums too, but did not seem to get as many penalties as they should have until later in the game, some even given to Leinster that I felt could have gone to Toulouse.
Toulouse were overall not as slick as they could have been when they lost their centre early in the game and Dupont had to act as a floater. This made a big difference in the game. Overall Leinster played well, but not as well as the scoreline suggested. It small differences at this level that wins games, and it home advantage seems to sway referees more often than not.
I just a rugby fan, I've played rugby to a high level and just want to see a good and fair game. I understand that referees cannot get every decision right, but inconsistency in refereeing at the moment is frustrating.
There's an awful lot of ifs and buts there to factor in and somehow conjure a Toulouse win. Even with such detailed analsys from someone with such an illustrious rugby pedigree as yourself it smacks of a one sided, biased commentary with total disregard and lack of appreciation for Leinster's all round supeiority in most facets of the match. But you are entitled to your opinion.
@@elsmid I think what Leinster do well is ride the line between being penalised or not, they push the boundaries and blur the lines between what is foul play or not, and get away with it more than other teams. If you "appreciate" that then then thats your opinion
Wow! My goodness... You are right. I had not noticed this. Porter seems to have gotten away with a lot in that game...
@@elsmid When you look at the statistics, Toulouse is superior. I think it's you who is biased. 4 trials in superiority of numbers. It's not a detail. Toulouse scores its tries at 15 against 15.
Leinster have all the money in the world and all the referees in their pocket. This is clearly a Hibernian conspiracy.
Appreciate the highlights, I was at Twickenham yesterday so missed most of the match live. Cautiously optimistic for the final
naw la rochelle will win
as a toulouse fan leinster played better than us , congrats and goog luck for the final !
As a leinster fan I want to say congrats to you for a fair play comment, to much whinging on here
thx, good look in the top14
Thank you, wish you the very best in the Top 14
Thank you for showing some class instead of whinging . Toulouse are a very good team played well but need to get their discipline sorted out .Crazy to play Dupont out of position.
Merci beaucoup monsieur. Bonne chance a la Top14.
As an outsider...well done Leinster....comiserations Toulouse âđżđŠ
Thank you đ
Lol, Leinster donât have to rely on him, never did.
You know we're living in loopy times when people think an English referee is rigging games for an Irish team
From a Toulouse fan
We can't blame all the day the ref
The reason of the defeat is the bad game of Ramos ,Graou and the stupidity of the move by Neti that killed the last hope for us
It's a shame but the Leinster is still the best rugby team of Europe and they deserved the win
As a french now I hope the victory of La Rochelle against Exeter and against the Leinster
But in the Aviva Stadium that will be very complicated lol
Ramos cost you any chance at the game. Between gifting Leinster a lineout with that weird decision to catch and jump out of touch and then a ridiculous intercept attempt, he gave Leinster all the momentum. I think he is an unreal and exciting player,, but he had an afternoon to forget to be sure.
Honest response from a supporter of Toulouse, well said. I don't honestly know what caused that Toulouse strategy. A bit bizarre. So much expectation of a clash worthy of two fantastic teams. Didn't materialise
The reason mayby lenister better
â@@patrickhorgan8389 The loss of Barassi actually. We were in a good position and we lost him. With a 6-2 bench that was hard as Dupont was playing 10, Graou not that great etc. And all started when Ramos did messy (tried to save a touch and to intercept)...
@@frenchflair7699 how dare Leo Cullen choose a 6-2 bench for Toulouse. Yet more evidence of Leinster skullduggery and clear bias towards them in the competition. Ramos' deliberate knock on was the secod one ye had committed and Barnes was 100 percent right to shut that nonsense down right away.
Ireland 6 nation European champions, now hopefully Leinster become European club champions. Not bad for a small country with only 4.8 million people, Iâm very proud or Eire hope all you Irish âïž folk are too.
Sorry, you got your numbers wrong. The population of Ireland (as of latest available official figures) is just over 7 million, with 5.1 million in Eire (Republic of Ireland) and just over 1.9 million in Northern Ireland. So weâre slowly getting back up there towards pre famine numbers of 9 million. But yes you are quite correct in principle regarding the relatively small population of this island producing the number 1 rugby team in the world!
â@@Driver2616 population is a red herring, regardless rugby is not even the national sport nor in the top 3 most popular sports in Ireland , with a small registered professional players pool to choose from relative to the other nations, so it's absolutely a miracle that Ireland should be the creme ala creme of international rugby and now possibly Leinster in club rug t
Shane:
Rugby is the BIGGEST PROFESSIONAL Sport in Ireland.
Gaelic Football and Hurling are strictly Amateur, While Soccer Football is Part time,
Therefore it is logical for Irish teams to be regular contenders for the European Club Rugby Cup !!
woohoo maybe this year you can get past quarterfinals at WC
Too bad you have to cheat to win a match.đą
The no card about the dump tackle from Leinster was crazy.
Barnes as usual
Shocking that, clear tipping. Leinster were gonna win no doubt, but that was a yellow at least.
@@ashatron656 for Leinster, a ruck is a swimming pool...
user123
49 minutes ago
Not only have teams realised that playing slow dirty rugby is how to beat Leinster but the refs have also realised this and now pay more attention to it. At the same time leinster dont need lowe,sexton,henshaw,kelleher or osborne to beat these teams which is still quite remarkable. Ref made some wrong decisions on both sides but at the end of the day its not like leinster ran away with it in the end they dominated from the get go.
@@mkeibergin3775I think they missed Lowe badly .
For the blind people out there who think Porter tackle was not "past the horizontal" here it is at 4:00
Do what the TMO could not bother to do, have the replay working, have your pause button working.
You see the legs of the winger above his arse? Yeah that's considered PAST HORIZONTAL. Your feet go 11-12 o'clock that's pretty past horizontal if you can read your watch. Above 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock that's horizontal. The winger's legs were at 11- to 12 o'clock, that's vertical upside down aka DANGEROUS TACKLE. And then there is the landing, normally the tackler must show that he attempted to slow down the impact onto the ground... yeah that one is even worst. Not only did Porter lift that winger way above "past horizontal", he absolutely smashed him onto the ground. It is like he tried to clean himself off that winger. He is going to be suspended, there is no other way.
Yep but too late for Toulouse. Their yellow cards cost them dearly but WB wanted to appease the Irish
@@kevinpillay6103 Agreed.
Landed on his back
All sour grapes from French fans,Leinster were classy and can only play whatâs in front of them and with the ref their given on the day.Barnes is no friend of Leinster / Irish rugby,when I was hoping for jaco peyper to be the ref that says it all about barnes.if Toulouse were better than Leinster they should have proven it by scoring tryâs.stop blaming barnes and look elsewhereâŠ.maybe at your coach,who went heavy on forwards on the bench eating the best scrum half in the world at out half crazy stuff
@@amantedellopera1681 Cannot disagree, the bench strategy proved costly, but Toulouse was up when Porter did his tip tackle, so had the ref shown consistency, we might have seen a closer result, we will never know.
VDF deserves an oscar for his performance at 5:03
It was still a yellow card nonetheless and leinster were miles the better team
@@mac8669 we must have been watching a different game
.... turning rugby into soccer
It was a blatant yellow nonetheless
I was in the stadium, there was a loud slap off the incident that caused the whole stadium to wince. Even the french family behind me were livid as soon as it happened, before it even got called back they had their heads in their hands. I was impressed van der flier got up tbh
Meafou really is something special once France get him their team will be even scarier
Will get found out in international rugby
@@goodboydaz0494 he was basically against ireland today tho ? đ€Ł
Who
He got battered today
@@DM-rp9ik he never Toulouse did
James ryan is awesome
James Ryan is the warhorse
â@@karlosdeevs beillent my fave player
No card for.the Leinster just before the half time. Wayne Barnes MAN OF THE MATCH. well done EPCR as usual.
Stop crying numpty
@Belfast Blue Nah that 2nd card was outrageous.
Merci monsieur lâarbitre. 2 jaunes fantĂŽmes
And thank you to Ramos and Neti for making very rash and uncalled for decisions..
Nothing tastier than French salt! Maybe read the laws when you've finished crying
English and a Sale Sharks fan so no loyalty other than a love of this game, great crowd, great stadium and two top of the drawer teams, Leinster were clinical, yellow cards were yellow in any game and they you cannot give a team like Leinster a 20 minute spell against 14 men - ouch.
A more disciplined Toulouse team would have done better, a closer contest perhaps but I think Leinster would have had the upper hand. A fifth star beckons!
And of course no red or even yellow card for Porter for his tackle on Mallia just before Meafou try. There is a special rule allowing such tackles on froggies I presume like there is a rule allowing kiwis flankers to defend off side a full half time when they are playing a WC final at home vs Froggies?
â@@unaagnew6623 if you want a hint on the answer look at the score during the 60 minutes both teams were with 15 players on the pitch. Would also have been interesting to see how the Irish would have manage to play with one player less but the referee decided that the tip tackle by Porter was legitimate after all why should we protect a player of a froggies team.
@@jeromeh7985 it seems to me the general view is that Porter was lucky not to have a card of some colour but as an English neutral I think you would struggle to make a case to a supporter of Leinster that an English referee would do them any favours.
@@jeromeh7985 It was clearly not a red - penalty only or yellow. One missed call isn't something to cry about though...
Vdf entered a ruck carelessly and made contact with Toulouse players head. Does this now warrant a red for vdf?
100% Red for VDF. Sick of this soccer BS from Ireland all the time. Jonny Sexton is the worst.
@@powerbite92 Actually Hogg is the original. Still watching videos from last century?
@@powerbite92 To quote that great cad, Terry Thomas, 'Hard Cheese'....
Merci Barnes !
you can thank Ugo Molaâs bonkers decision to name a 6-2 bench which cost Toulouseâs backline dearly after Barassi went of injured. 1 of many costly errors by ST as Dupont & Ramos noted later..
It would have made no difference what referee, refed this match, Toulouse simply were not ever going to win.
Congratulation !
Many thanks
Some side well done đ
Barnes killed the match.
Tristandepierre:
Leinster killed the match !!
Stop trying to knock David Icke off his throne as the king of conspiracy theories!!
Wow what a game a big shout out to Wayne Barnes and his team they had to make some crucial decisions today Potential red card was a big factor in this game and they got it spot on with yellow what on earth Went through Thomas Ramos mind to do that I am stunned and shocked that a full-fledged international would do such a thing like that with his experience
Yh, also very unprofessional from Ramos not to take the last conversion srsly. As a player youâre drilled to give your everything & all until the final blow..
@@karlosdeevs So true he was very unprofessional And his yellow card A player of his quality should not be making those mistakes OK you can get caught up in the heat of the moment in a big game like this but still you should know the rules just reading some of the comments everyone is criticizing Wayne Barnes he had a lot on his plate especially The yellow or red card decision everyone quick to criticize him what would they do if they was in his shoes thatâs when I want to know what they crack under pressure and give a red or did what he done and sort it out and give the right decision my opinion he did do the right decision and give a yellow
Does anyone know the name of the track played in the Aviva just before the players come out? It's quite heavy and sounds electronic, can't seem to find it anywhere!
I usually like Barns but he did his best to spoil two great teams.
Shot to the head on 30 seconds tip tackle on 4:05 and VDF should have been the one walking off for a rest.
Lienster don't have any weakness and were pretty daunting for their next victim.
Rodrigue Neti you mean. Shouldâve taken an early shower immediately after head butting Vdfâs throat & jaw..
why everyone says the french only blame the referee?? we don't blame the referee he made small mistakes ok but we're just disappointed with this defeat that's all, congratulations to leinster it was good play from them good luck to you in this final đ€
Because every French person here (apart from you) is blaming the referee..
@@benvaughan3392 that's not true
@@revertnicolas5977 yh, 2 from nearly 200
To be honest most Irish would wish Barnes did not exist, it is sad that he is considered to be the top ref in world rugby, but at the end of the day Leinster deserved the win. Thank you from a Leinster man for a great game, always a pleasure to host Toulouse and their fans.
@@benvaughan3392 Would you say the referee'ing was good during the match ? Too many misses, the fact that referee was shit doesn't mean you guys didn't deserve to beats us. It just spoiled everything for us, there was no possible fighting back, imagine porter and vdf each get a yellow, that match would have been a nail biter now.
Nicely done Leinster đ, but Barnes had a shocker again , but yeah
I mean it could have been a red for that headbutt but OK.....
Le joueur du Leinster lui fonce dessus comme un dĂ©bile et ensuite simule comme un crĂ©tin le coup de tĂȘte est la âŠ. Mais franchement câest comme foncer dans un panneau publicitaire tĂȘte la premiĂšre ça nâa aucun sens . MĂȘme dans le jeux le joueur de Leinster ne pouvait rien attendre de son action kamikazeâŠ. Vraiment ridicule âŠ.
Exactement, et il y vient deux fois en plus.. comme sâil cherchait la faute.
De plus le plaquage cathĂ©drale devant lâarbitre avant lâessai de de M. Meafou oubliĂ© ou volontairement ignorĂ©..
Le Leinster est une grande Ă©quipe, il nây a rien Ă dire comme le dĂ©clare A. Dupont, mais câest pĂ©nible de relever certains faits de jeu ou il nây a pas dâĂ©quitĂ© dans lâarbitrage..
Mais câest comme ça.
Heureusement le TFC a redonnĂ© le sourire au public toulousain et plus largement Ă lâoccitanie, et maintenant tous derriĂšre Toulon et La Rochelle..
Cordialement.
win = we're the better team
lose = refs are bad
â@@jeanmichelreneredbeans4104your not allowed lead with the head.
Barnes should never be able to referee another irish game again first the head to head against France and now a deliberate headbutt is a yellow against toulouse
Cut out the Wild conspiracy theories, leave that stuff to David Icke !!
@@josephfinnegan151 jesus mate relax
As a Toulouse fan, I am disappointed. But, despite the early try, Toulouse needed more intensity in the contacts after this. They recovered at the start of the second half. But playing one man down for 20mns, and the injury of Barassi creating a reshuffle of the backs, was a terrible mountain to climb. Congrats Leinster!
Merci beaucoup. Thank you for your intelligent and respectful comments. Good luck in your Top14.
je suis d'accord sauf pour le deuxieme jaune.
On s'est fait "barner" comme des bleus!
You got bruised by 15 angry leinstermen who gave ya hell for the full 80
5:00 not a good look for rugby. Both players should have been yellow carded I think. What was the static player supposed to do. Von der flyer literally threw himself at head level... since when is the static guy coping for someone's reckless movement? Then comes the comedian act from the Irish 7, that was all very silly. Worthy of an actor guile award.
Van der Flier fouled Nete and then simulated to buy the card. He should be cited and a lengthy ban.
Leinster were slightly lucky yes but they were still the better team. Would have been closer but they were on it today with some big omissions
They just took advantage of the ramos yellow card and scored 20 points during the 10 mins
Leinster were better and would have won for sure. But not by this margin. Itâs a pity that such quality game have to be ruined by poor referring. But what a team
@@FDN10 âjust took advantageâ makes it sound like that was easy? Wasnât Leinster fault he slapped the ball out of play. Think Leinster have scored 130 points against teams with yellow cards in this tournament alone, thatâs not luck
@@08padam 100% agree. Really didnât think the last yellow was a yellow at all, but still think they would have won regardless. Being that far up, at home, will always lead to a drop off and Toulouse are too good of a team to not have a purple patch
@@pityfool23 yeah that last yellow was harsh. Neti was stupid and deserved a yellow, but so did VDF for coming in with speed shoulder first. And then he scores on the following maul 8 forward vs 7 and the game was over. But I am impressed at how GOOD Leinster are when the other team is missing a player. It makes no sense to me they seem to have a 110% chance of scoring haha
Also Graou had a terrible terrible game, costing at least 14 points for Toulouse (what he did on Sheenanâs try was priceless I couldnât stop laughing)
Van der Flierâs deliberate self head contact to get the penalty (and the card) and the dramatic pain and fall to the ground is unworthy of a player like him.
You are accusing him of cheating ! Really . He is the most honest committed hard but fair player .
Self head contact? Are you crazy? The toulouse thug headbutted him
â@@Ian-gj1gw stfu. He came at Toulouse player for absolutely no reason whatsoever, and two times.
He paid the price. And even trying to make it like diva football player.
You're gonna handled again on WC, as always. It's not like that big games are winning, by some vicious attitudes towards game.
La Rochelle's gonna wreck your team again.
Van der Flier fouled Nete and then simulated to buy the card. He should be cited and a lengthy ban.
@@powerbite92 wow - are you a scriptwriter for fiction movies ?
As a Durban Sharks fan, I now fear that we have to face Leinster Next week đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł But great game all round, Tough one for Tolouse but I'm sure that they will bounce back, and Congratutations to Leinster
Leinster will mix the team up. Sharks will not face the HC side. It will be more the URC side. Injury before HC final to key players ( JVDF ; Ringrose ; Keenan ; Furlong; Gibson Park) will be at top of Leinster management minds. Itâs a balancing act . Be interesting to see team selection.
You'll face a weaker side due to rotation
@@tomf1dublin1 That's true, but still expecting a good team to turn up, besides the Sharks are playing away for the rest of the Playoffs either way
@@zombievikinggaming4258 True but I'm still expecting Leinster to turn up
@@bodybagnathanieldonato8241 should be a great weekend of rugby . Canât think of any of the matches where you can absolutely pick a winner
Barnes had an absolute shocker
When does he not have a shocker? My least favourite ref.
Par for course.
So did the french team
Barnes always has a shocker, he is a pompous prick, who needs to be shown the door
Nonsense
3:04 a blue player deliberately knocks the ball in the ruck, that leeds to the try
What? Maybe you chose the wrong time
Wayne Barnes is my friend đ
Jeremynan:
Sounds like you have been falling for too many conspiracy theories !!
@@josephfinnegan151 I regret that rugby has changed in recent years. Not in a good way. There was no controversy regarding the refereeing. It's not just me. The world reacts. Supporters from all countries react even in Ireland. It is not normal to have referees so "bad".
Kolbe was the man in toulouse squad, not paying same money RC toulon give him was a big mistake of Toulouse since he left
Although I agree they have been lacking a world class winger since Kolbe left, they still have world class players everywhere in the team and still remain as one of the last club with healthy finances and an extremely strong team and staff.
Soccers Hollywood antics making its way into rugby đ
Yep VDF doing his best impression of a footballer . Disgraceful behaviour from so called strong men. Porter tackle no review even though was so aggressive and meant to hurt an opponent
Sick of seeing it. And teh Irish are the worst offenders. Well, actually.. maybe the French are just as bad (lol) .
Yes rugby needs NZ loser boys headbutt tactics. đđ
Who cares what kiwis think.
AshboNZ:
And Loony Bin Conspiracy Theories makings it's way into the comments.
Face Facts Boyeen , Leinster guillotined the French side .
Why did the French player get a card when charged at in the ruck?
For a blatant headbutt...
Why was vd Flier not given a red/yellow? Ran into opposing player and hitting/connecting opposing playerâs head with his shoulder?
Because Irish always get a few free rides when Barnes whistles them against French teams.
He runs towards the ruck, presumably trying to stop the caterpillar, the French player then changes position and smacks his shoulder into Josh vdF's head. Lucky it was only yellow
Am I missing something or are some Toulouse fans being outrageous? I just canât comprehend how a committed tackle that doesnât go past the horizontal supposedly warrants a âred cardâ, while the two yellow cards for Toulouse are apparently completely unfounded?
Well Porter also tackled a guy without the ball ... that's already a yellow card, and then he lifted the Toulouse's player who fell on his upper back ... that's also an easy yellow to me
Yellow + yellow is kind of red no ?
And the the 2nd yellow card for Toulouse is a bit soft in my opinion
I donât know how many are actually Toulouse fans. Some random French fans who always blame the ref and quite a few English who canât abide by an Irish team doing well.
@@luccornic9980 On the Porter tackle - am I right in saying that both incidents you mention (the tackle off the ball and the dump) take place in the same incident at 37 mins? If so, is there not an argument for (1) him already being committed to the tackle on 14 (therefore it not being a tackle off the ball and not warranting any yellow card - which wouldnât usually be a yellow card anyways) and (2) the tackle not going past the horizontal, so not warranting a yellow card? Iâm not sure of rules regarding dump tackles, but I donât ever recall seeing a yellow card for a dump tackle that doesnât past the horizontal.
On the VDF incident, I think itâs fair to say it was a bit soft. In my eyes it was a yellow, but I can see why you would think otherwise.
In any case, I really donât think the above incidents can at all correlate to Toulouse being robbed/Leinster being lucky. Outside of the yellow cards, Toulouse were still outplayed. It doesnât say a whole lot of good for a team if two yellow cards means shipping 28 points. One man down shouldnât lead to that concession for a top quality side.
@@luccornic9980 that 2nd yellow could have been a red made deliberate contact with the head wasnt an acidental slide up in contact. Either way it was stupid got benifit of the doubt but killed off what little chance Toulouse had left
@@luccornic99802nd yellow was closer to a red than no card
That yellow in the van der vlier incident was ludicrous.
Led with this head had he just braced there would be no issue he lunged head first from low to high he is a very lucky boy that he only got a yellow.
@@ciaranbrk Most "Irish" keyboard warriors commenting with this one eyed nonsense arent even irish. The clue is the names they gives themselves, always some 'fellow celtic' name.
@@ciaranbrk Had he jsut braced he would have gotten smacked by VDF who is reckless chargin with shoulder and the one leading the collision.
It was a clear yellow
â@@tm.8399 He is entitled to contest the ruck, you are not allowed to use your head. Stupid by Neti and stupid people think it was ok.
Congrats to Leinster ! The better of the two won. Stupid errors by Ramos and Neti, plus a poor Graou who isn't accostumed to play games of that intensity cost Toulouse the game (đą). Some put fowards Barnes as a reason for loosing but when your opponent gets 30 points over you that's not a valid debate.
Leinster fans remember this only the semi final, you haven't won anything yet!
soon..
We know that, remember we have 4 stars âïž and know whatâs ahead of us.
@@Shane-zx4ps remember last year ?
@@Shane-zx4ps La Rochelle has your number đ
@@Shane-zx4ps told you matey. Your lads don't have the bottle when it matters
Wayne Barnes was awfully biased, Leinster are good enough not to need him
They didn't need him. They're the best team in Europe by far & this result shows it. He's an English referee so French fans have nothing to complain about
Superwrench:
Stop trying to be a Super Conspiracy Theorist!! Leave that stuff to David Icke.
There is no argument with a 19 points winning margin !!
@@mac8669 Barnes might be English he still is one of the worst referees at that level
@@mac8669 yea yeah we know the Irish and English hate each other bla bla bla.... That's why Leinster have an English coach. Just like the Irish national squad.....
â@@mac8669 are you stil agree after LEINSTER vs LA ROCHELLE đđ
Neutral fan here. So van der Flier runs into a ruck to clear it, lowering his body position as he does so. Toulouse #17, stationary and bound to the ruck braces for impact from the incoming van der Flier, and head on neck contact is made. And Toulouse get the yellow card?! How?! This is madness. Barnes is completely overrated as a referee.
Sounds like you've been over indulging in conspiracy theories !!
@@josephfinnegan151 Huh?
I'm not sure a lot of people in these comments understand what "bias" means. Why would Wayne Barnes, an Englishman, be biased to an Irish team? đ
Thats just you not getting it. You dont know how the Powers that Be Work and you dont know how Rugby authorities work.. tell me, do you know what the term "Castle Catholic" means when applied to some Leinstermen?
French teams will always get yellows away from home as they targeted by British refs . Those 2 yellows costs Toulouse. Porter no yellow wow.
@powerbite92 As a leinsterman of catholic stock, yes, I do know the term. I also know how stupid one has to be, and frankly xenophobic, to apply it to Irish people in the 21st century. Also, the first yellow cynically prevented a try, and Neti did the most obvious head butting motion twice, and just because he failed to land on the head, doesn't mean it isn't a yellow. It isn't a red, but it is a yellow. Those are clear day, as was as was the Antonio RED that was deemed a yellow by the very same "biased" Wayne Barnes All you have is the Porter incident, and given that there were two incidents, there is a case for a yellow, but nothing more. Toulouse wouldn't have pulled it back anyway, they were 17 down.
@@justagame101 Netiâs headbutt on Vdf was red-worthy too in that case đŽ
@karl6015 What was weird about that decision was that when the ref was talking to the tmo, he described his final decision as basically being that he make a bit of head contact, but there was no "intention", whereas I think it was blatantly intended, but missed the head twice. I mean, who clears out a ruck with their head? I think it could be a red, but I could see someone making a letter-of-the-law decision that given there was little head content, that it should only be yellow. I also have seen many people arguing that vdf was diving and acting, as though he was a footballer like Neymar or something. He grappled down, and there was zero attempt to wrap. Imagine that had happened to a French player in Toulouse. Would they be arguing that their own player was acting and wasn't fouled? Of course not, because, like every fan of every team, there is bias. But it seems more extreme from french fans. THAT's what bias is.
Well done leinster đźđȘđźđȘđźđȘ
Lienster deserved the win but what on earth was VDF doing? Terrible card decision
It was a genuine yellow card, contact to the head
â@@mac8669 no
@@mac8669 it was a genuinely stupid decision
Congrats to Leinster,well deserved win!!
Thank you respect from Ireland đźđȘ đ
Good game good win for Leinster.
Bad Referee as too often.
Leinster at home for every games is a shame though.
This cup could have been better.
Remember. Google have their headquarters in Dublin. Thats like Leinster being the official team of C.R.I.F . They will always get the venues and the referee's decisions.
And France will have all home games for the world cup. Whinge about that one. Beat Leinster and they'll stop getting home games. It's that simple
The aviva is the irish rugby stadium though. Its not leinsters. Even now as the 2024 final will be in totenham hotspur stadium not too far from Saracens in north london, yet no one complains. Saracens are team who have always been competitive as well yet you ignore it. Stop making excuses to get mad at leinster.
@@Teesroad No. leinster have said that they prefer the Aviva across the road to their own RDS stadium as they have better crowds and home matches there. Sarries are based in Mill Hill, a nice j3w1sh suburb just inside Hertfordshire. You spent much time in Tottenham recently? Not easy to commute to and its a pretty wild place for any Leinster or Sarries fan to walk around in, I do some business in Tottenham and the idea of it being a "home game" - same as the aviva ha ha, you keyboard boys are clutching at straws now..
The only flair you have now is French flaring up at the mouth not man enough to take the defeat arrogantly believing you were the better team just because you are French [ WITH HALF OF YOUR players foreign } and club foreign owned, , years ago you used to say what gallant losers to teams like Leinster who had no money only hope, now you are on the receiving end you do not like it and complain like spoilt little brats, you have now lost any respect we had for you, yours Erick Cantona
Not shown here but I reckon things started to unravel for ST when Ramos caught a clearing kick and stepped on the sideline. Just after that lineout he made the knock-on he was binned for, Leinster scored 2 tries and there was no stopping them anymore.
Home ground advantage.
I didnât watch the match but reading the late and tip tackle on Malia is not a Yellow is bonkers⊠Wayne Barnes is right there, clearly on the back, not the neck or head, dropped just before the ground thatâs text book yellow.
Now for the Neti yellow card, the head movement is stupid and warrants the card. However, that movement comes as a brace response to the oncoming contact of a tucked arm
Ahhh the old "brace response" ah yeah.That's all ok then. Thanks for that, Sherlock.
You didnât watch the match đ so why are you commenting?
Late tackle, legs above the horizontal, drops him high, 5m from your own try line. if thatâs not a yellow I donât know what is
@@08padam Writing nonsense is a yellow card offence
Im struggling to make sense of the yellow card... it just doesnt make sense. He had to brace. He even went lower with his head to avoid head on head. Wtf is this
Leinster probably were a bit lucky with the ref but that tends to happen with the home team . However, they were significantly the better team and the score is justified.
Lucky how? Do you think there was any doubts about the yellow cards???
@@jameskinahan2052 No, but Porter probably should have got a yellow for his tip tapple. Don't get me wrong Leinster would more than likely have won well even without any cards for Toulouse.
Is Toulouse the same Team Nayacalevu and Waqaniqolo playing for???Did not see them!!!
it was so hard for toulouse. Two yellow cards it's too much (The Referre forgot one for leinster). I support La Rochelle. Yes leinster is the best team in Europe, their level is regular , it's the perfection. BUT La Rochelle (without any yellow card) will promise you a hard challenge et we will come at Dublin to win. La Rochelle don't afraid of anyone.
should be a cracker!
leinster beated us bad. this team is fantastic, makes no mistakes, with high level combinations. but why no red card for leinster?
The Irish are constantly acting and 'buying' cards from their opponents. Sexton is the master of this..
B-cuz Rodrigue Netiâs offence was the most sinister and was hella lucky not to receive a red. Nobody wants to see a sending off, but that challenge was dangerous..
@@karlosdeevs the red card was on the illegal tackle during the second try of toulouse.
The neti's move was stupid and the yellow legit
You mean for Porterâs âtackleâ? Personally think it was a yellow card & he was v lucky not to be penalised
Red for what? Are you delusional?
Barnes Masterclass ! đ€ŠđŒââïž
Objective & constructive as usualđ
Keep crying, I love it!
Jack Conan masterclass*
Let's get this straight first Leinster were worthy winners however what is the point of the TMO if they can't see that, Barnes didn't give the French much but Toulouse didn't help themselves either infact I was a bit disappointed in their performance but Leinster are clearly the best team in Europe and maybe the world currently,. I've said this many times before that the best teams whether at international level or club level are refereed more leniently at the breakdown and I've been watching rugby for 50 years and nothing has changed. You aren't allowed to go off your feet when clearing out at a breakdown according to the laws of the game but the law isn't applied consistently whether during a match or equally for all teams. This isn't a point about this match particularly it is an observation over a long period of time and is giving the better teams an advantage they do not need.
No they are not the best team in the World just yet. Beating Toulouse in the semis twice don't make you the best team, unless you had beaten Stade Rochelais and the Stormers last year. They are the current Champions Cup and URC holders. Win the final and URC like Toulouse did with back to back European and National trophies and then Leinster will be indeed the best franchise in the World. Trophies tell the story in the end.
@@BonuxCouleur Rubbish. Winning the European Cup makes a team the best in Europe not the World. As for winning the URC, it only makes a team better than the other 15 involved.
@@benitolonard4441 Yes thank you Mr Obvious.
@@BonuxCouleur Obvious to you now then, is it? Glad I cleared that up for you because your comment is moronic.
@@chuck9960 Best team yes, but iâm pretty sure if ya take the more indisciplined route youâre gonna receive the leniency you deserve..
Leinster can thanks W. Barnes for his outrageous performance... Go La Rochelle!!!
The only flair you have now is French flaring up at the mouth not man enough to take the defeat arrogantly believing you were the better team just because you are French [ WITH HALF OF YOUR players foreign } and club foreign owned, , years ago you used to say what gallant losers to teams like Leinster who had no money only hope, now you are on the receiving end you do not like it and complain like spoilt little brats, you have now lost any respect we had for you, yours Erick Cantona
To my eyes, that VDF incident should've been a yellow for both, but that's the only controversial call I can spot.
VDF needs to be cited and a lengthy ban. Fouling nete is one thing but "buying" the card .. no place in rugby.
+ harsh yellow card for Ramos + no yellow (maybe red) card for Porter's tip (and delayed) tackle on Mallia.
Barnesđ€Ą, bis repetita.
VdF did nothing wrong. However, Porter might reasonably have been carded for separate incident
The French player headbutted him and you think he should have been carded? Are you delusional?
@@fabien2972 The Ramos card wasn't harsh, that's the punishment for a deliberate knockon, the tip could have been a yellow but was probably correctly penalty only (no danger, not above the horizontal, no dump)
merci Wayne..Leinster n'avait pas besoin d'un arbitrage "Ă la maison"...
Where was the Irish director on the Porter tackle?
A scam that would have changed the course of the game even if Toulouse would have struggled..but we've seen that before...
Leinster était la meilleure équipe sur le terrain mais l'arbitrage les aide depuis quelques années
Leinster was the best team on the field but the refereeing has helped them for a few years.
To answer your question - play continued and Toulouse scored a try . There was no request to go back and look at tackle . Iâm not sure but, TMO might have looked at it and deemed it to be only a penalty and , as Toulouse scored a try there was no extra benefit accruing to Toulouse . Thatâs my guess as look at tackle again - tackle a man without ball. I did not think it was above horizontal .
De plus ce qui mâagace câest la fĂącheuse tendance de lâIrlande et du Leinster Ă polluer les rucks en se couchant sur le porteur de balle pendant une heure âŠ.. il va vraiment falloir remĂ©dier à ça , câest de la pure triche , la premiĂšre mi temps il nây avait que ça âŠ. Sans compter les innombrables pertes dâappuis et plongeon ⊠câest du rugby pas la piscine publique .
@@jeanmichelreneredbeans4104 đą
â@@jeanmichelreneredbeans4104 les Irlandais bĂ©nĂ©ficient peut-ĂȘtre de la jurisprudence McCaw...đ€đ
The Porter tackle was penalty only, Barnes gave advantage and there was a try scored so no need to go back. Stop whinging about refs
Spear tackles are allowed if your name is Porter or all spear tackles are allowed against a player of a froggies team? Could you point me to this special rule?
Wayne Barnes didn't have a great game but it not the reason why Toulouse lost. There own indiscipline is the reason and Leinster, like great teams do, punished them for it.
Also people who don't think the headbutt is worth a yellow card is just sad and pathetic.
Well done to Leinster for this win but we can have regrets about losing Barassi so early which completely unbalances the game (Dupont is not a 10 and Graou doesn't have the level for such games yet. It's a pity because on a 15 v 15 opposition we win 22-19 and the yellows are a bit generous (Ramos is, I think, capable of intercepting + we're 20m from our line so at no time that cancels out a potential try, and Neti certainly goes down but Van der Flier also goes over and fakes too much...)
Toulouse were just second best and had no chance of winning that game. It was like a rerun of the same semi final last year. All of the res5 is just wishful thinking. Once Leinster turned on the class they powered ahead.
The 6-2 split was as Toulouse knew they couldnt live with Leinsters pace for 80mins needed the extra forward gambed on it and it backfired. The complete implosion of dealing with that is crazy surly there was a plan for lsoing a back.
The first yellow would have been a try without the deliberate slap no chance of catching that lucky it wasnt a penalty try.
"we're 20m from our line so at no time that cancels out a potential try," so no team can score from 20m out? That pass goes to hand without the knock from Ramos try all day long. The 2nd yellow was a sign pressure got to them lost the head it was stupid pointless and deliberate head contact bit like Haouas v scotland in the 6 nations just stupid lack of disipline lets see with pressure of the world cup how many more red mist moments undo France
VDF committed two penalty offences in 5 seconds. I mean what did Nete do? Hunched up as VDF ran at his head. Then VDF did a Jonny Sexton and dived like a football player. Simulation. VDF should be cited and banned. We cant have this soccer BS creeping into our game.. and its biggest proponents? The Irish! The Irish of ALL people doing soccer dives like this. Something needs to be said and more importantly DONE about this. Nix nete's card and strong action against VDF.
@@powerbite92 Lol. ''..we can't have this soccer BS creeping into our game.
It's in our game because Hogg brought it in years ago.
Lol. Hogg dropping the ball over the line in Dublin and then celebrating like he'd scored the try of the century.
As for versus South Africa. What can we say?
@@powerbite92 maybe not deliberately make contact with his head his own action of moving his head up after contact. If he wasn't a sub probably would have been replaced and not brought back on. Turned a good attacking position fron the 50-22 into a Leinster try and left his team a man down for 10mins not the refs fault he did it. Toulouse have him to blame for killing off any chance they had of winning it from there
leinster deserved win, but yeah barnes ego driven before world cup and inconsistent as hell, he is a lawyer but bent like a judge! he is killing good games ! dont let him have the final! he was crap 2 years ago and last year!
I can read many supporters blaming Wayne Barnes for the result, which I can fully understand as a Toulouse supporter. But the first ones to be blamed are Toulouse players themselves. There is no way you can win such a game with two yellow cards, you need to keep some calm and composure and they didn't. Too many mistakes from Toulouse's side. More than blaming the ref, I am really upset with the way the game went, and how stupid our team was at some key moments. I still feel Toulouse gave the win to Leinster, because they could really win it, not like last year. And this could not have happened after losing to them already 2 times in the last 3 years. Congrats to Leinster; and to the Toulouse squad: please, try to finally learn the lesson!
Congratulations to Leinster, great victory ! I think the reason why Barnes didn't gave a yellow card to Porter is why Mallia stand up just after while Van der Flier toke his head in the hands (a bit ridiculously), to obtain exactly what he was expecting. That the game, not very fair but french players did the same during other games so no lessons to give.
I hope La Rochelle will reach the final and beat Leinster again. Good game anyway
Did you actually see what led up to Netiâs challenge on Vdf? The guy straight up head butted him in the jaw and neck area, iâm sure you yourself would react similar: hand on head and falling down in a heap.. And Porterâs tackle was ugly but legal, Mallia lands on his bottom and lower-back.
Come on Van Der Flier is a big warrior, during the game he is in the middle of a lot of more painful contacts. With Neti he is arguing and looks for the contact. The yellow card is deserved, Van Der Flier was smarter and a but vicious on this one.
From what I see Porter did a spare tackle on Mallia which is prohibited. He felts on his back so it's a yellow card to me. Anyway not looking for an argue, every one have is one advice.
Leinster machine marches on. These guys are an incredible team. Even a French tv director would have not helped heređ.
Maybe the Irish one and the ref would have...
There were some debatable calls on non calls. Van D Flier tackle resulting in a yellow, Porter tip tackle seemed illegal. . One thing for for sure is that home advantage is a big factor inthe champions cup knockout stage. I think they were all won by home teams.
@@vuyaniman9440 Rodrigue Natiâs the one who threw his head into the guyâs throat, did the most damage -lucky if heâs not cited as a result. Porterâs tackle was ugly and badly applied, but Mallia also landed on his bottom/lower-back and many moved on at that look..
La Rochelle will sort them out.
Leinster will be KRYPTONITE to La Rochelle !!
La rochelle, is that not a chocolate, from the four corners of the world with a little bit of french to make it look like french, we will see how french you are soon when your four corners crumble under one nation LEINSTER, yours Charles De Gaule
@@josephfinnegan151 You were saying????đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
@@mkeibergin3775 Well well well. I can't hear you anymore. Need more European subsidies???đ€Łđ€Ł
Anyone know if a player can be cited for dangerous play that wasn't picked up / penalised during a match? I'm just wondering if Porter is going to miss the final...
doubt it, Mallia the kid only landed on his bottom
Yes, can definitely be cited post match. But I don't think Porter will be
Eh.. more like Rodrigue Neti for his blatant headbutt on Vdf
It was penalty only, maybe a yellow at worst. Why would there be a citing for that?
Toulouse gave the ref opportunities to penalise and yellow card them, Leinster didn't ...simple as. Can't see how anyone argues with such a comprehensive win
Van Der Flier and his head charge/ Oscar worthy dive just entered the chat..
@@powerbite92 f**k that. Vdf was caught off guard by an unnecessary and vicious headbutt in the throat & neck area by Rodrigue Neti lucky af there was no damage. Weâd all be in a heap if it happened to us..
@@powerbite92 ''just entered the chat'' What about Hogg's Oscar worthy dive versus South Africa? That was 7 years ago
@@powerbite92 not sure headbutting somebody in the neck/ throat area is really defensible!
Ref wasn't that bad,blue team werestronger,dominant, specially in the tight,which leads to penalties,n pressure..leinster were just better
agree, one small overlook has entitled-minded fans kicking & screaming..
What is all these noise abot the ref?.from a south african fan.đđđđ
Ze French canât stand loosing to anybody, so every excuse is needed to sooth their egos đ
French fans who canât accept defeat so they blame anything and everything else
@@Shane-zx4ps *zeir egos
Toulouse n'Ă©tait pas venu en voyage dĂ©couverte en Irlande! Mais la blessure rapide de BARASSI, le coaching nul de MOLA, les cartons jaunes dont le deuxiĂšme est vraiment litigieux... le plaquage cathĂ©drale non sanctionnĂ©, dĂ©placer DUPONT Ă l'ouverture (et il a Ă©tĂ© meilleur en 10 que NTK), faire rentrer GRAOU niveau TOP 14 ok mais pas H CUP (trop lent, tu te fais pas pĂ©ter le ballon 4 fois dans les mains en sortie de regroupement) sĂ©rieux? J'ajoute la filouterie IRISH pour retarder les libĂ©rations de balles, l'orgueil de certains Toulousains qui ont intĂ©rĂȘt Ă faire profil bas les prochains matchs (NTK / RAMOS), et la loyautĂ© de WAYNE BARNES... les 4 dĂ©placements Irlandais Ă DUBLIN de suite... voilĂ voilĂ ! A fond derriĂšre LA ROCHELLE dĂ©sormais! Poutrez les!
1) The yellow card on Ramos is very generous, he can intercept and he remains a defender. We take 3 tries during.
2) There is a tip tackle on MalliĂĄ during Meafou's try, thanks to the video referee for choosing his side đ€Ą on the other hand we whistle on Neti and go back to the video (besides Ven der Flier is a great actor, faking it like that for a Big boy it stains...) plus It's the first time we see the player protecting the ruck getting penalised, he should have waited to get his head crushed?
3) How can the Irish be offside in every action without being penalised? It's going to look funny for them in the world cup without referees commited to their acts đ€Ą
4) I hope one day we play Leinster at home because for years it's been in Dublin, obviously playing Racing and Gloucester in first instance helps to finish first and win every game đ€Ą
We get robbed every year by the referee.
I recall Barnes had to be escorted out after robbing Toulouse against Ulster last year, this ref is a disgrace to rugby. đ€Ą
Jaco Peyper (La Rochelle - Exeter) who celebrated Wales' win against France đ€Ą
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In the running game Toulouse rivaled Leinster who only scored during the numerical overhang graciously granted by Barnes.
Donât worry. The Irish will get smashed on neutral venue and will see their customary early exit!
Youâre a disgrace. Come back when Toulouse lose a close game. Whinging about decisions when your team have taken a battering is pathetic.
If you want to play at home, win more games and get a better ceding. Poor Toulouse. One of the wealthiest teams in the sport and the most successful in European history and everyone is so unfair to them đ
Is that the same Barnes who didn't send Atonio off during the Ireland/France Six Nations game this year?
Always welcome in Dublin for another spanking đ
1) correction. 2 tries and very nearly 3. That's called being clinical
As anticipated, Leinster home advantages (aviva, crowd, ref, tmo) was the difference for Leinster vs a Toulouse team which was not helped by the ref and their clumsy choices.
They perfectly took advantage of Toulouse Yellow cards advantages scoring 28 of their 40 points.
But i can certainly understand Toulouse fury when the TMO and Barnes refused to check Porter dangerous tip tackle... It was the turning point of the match. Yellow cards influence on the game are enormous in these matchs.
Ps: Regarding this scenario, Leinster fans should really avoid to give 'fairplay' lessons. Btw, we're talking about the same Leinster fans saying Barnes was anti irish to explain their defeat vs la Rochelle... Which is quite ironic.đ
You sound a bit bitter mate, congrats on the loss
Honestly cry more Leinster far superior and Barnes made all the right calls
Think you're forgetting the quarter final game tolouse played against the sharks. Doesnt really help anyone. Tbh it looked like he landed on his back and that porter was already comitted to the tackle. Id have said a penalty only and not a yellow tbh. As for the cards I think they were justified under the current laws but the 2nd yellow was soft.
La mauvaise fois de certains irlandais me laisse pantois
@@Mini89632 Does bad faith is part of Irish DNA ? đ To make believe Barnes had the best match is the best joke of the day. Congratulations.
Leinster was stronger, but when rugby become football.
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I really don't like to go after the refs but WAW this one was a joke. A great game to watch when 15 v 15, with Toulouse controling the game I think. Too bad this game was largely decided by the refs' decisions ...
19 points difference, not even close.
The french played dirty rugby with both those yellows being fair and flament was lucky not to have been more so then porter
â@@user-is9of Dude... What about the tip tackle on MalliĂĄ ?
â@Belfast Blue Yep, 22-19 for Toulouse when 15 vs 15
@Belfast Blue What does this have to do with anything?
I'm just telling you that at 15 vs 15 the 2 teams are holding each other.
In my opinion Ramos is capable of intercepting and anyway you don't put yellow cards 20m from the line when at no time is a try action annihilated...
Josh ran into Netoâs head. Minimum yellow for him, possible red. Red for the spear tackle as well. Different game.
Van der Flier fouled Nete and then simulated to buy the card. He should be cited and a lengthy ban.
@@powerbite92 You need to send in your complaints to EPCR on a postcard as soon as possible. Best of luck. đđ
Porter only dropped him on his back look closely
Kenrehill:
Leave the refereeing to the referee and leave the Conspiracy Theories to David Icke !!
Are you drunk?
When I saw Barnes, I knew we weren't going to win. Then, what makes us lose the match is the management of Barassi's exit. Graou in the scrum, it was a disaster (poor thing). It would have been necessary to put RetiĂšre back, Ramos in 10 and Ntamack in 3./4 and leave Dupont in the fray. At that time of the game for Graou it was too hot. He was then able to level up, but the gap was made. And in 10, Ramos' creativity might have made it possible to come back. In short, a match that changed in a very short time. A nightmare !
hello Eric, you poor thing, do you play fantasy Rugby, sounds like it from looking at your little story up there, hilarious little story, where in the hell did you find the imagination to compile a story like that, were you in Star Wars, Star Trek, or Return of the Jedi, or just in your crazy imagination, yours Darth Vader
The histrionics not a good look for JVDF but Neti was asking for trouble.
Always amazed that professional players can lose it and fall into such obvious traps!
This year's championship is for Leinster to lose. No other team close to them.
Except the Bulls and the Stormers, current title holders...
@@BonuxCouleur La Rochelle are the title holders, different competition, Bulls and Stormers were knocked out
@@BonuxCouleur arent they both knocked out? đ
@@JD-qn5dv yes but Leinster did not beat them in the URC, the Stormers are the current holders and so is Stade Rochelais in Europe. Maybe it will change in a few weeks, maybe it won't.
@@JD-qn5dv So is Leinster, twice in a rowđ
Leinster are a great side but that ref and the the TV directors spoiled the match. When Toulouse looked like taking control thry ensured yellows stopped them. Porter no yellow for that tackle. The french player should have done a Van Der Flier and play acted. How Barnes is rated as a top ref tells you about how poor it is
Van der Flier fouled Nete and then simulated to buy the card. He should be cited and a lengthy ban.
@@powerbite92 yh.. Iâm sure anyone can buy a card having been directly head butted in the process, Neti would be lucky chappy if plays another game this season..
Toulouse being crap spoiled the match. Hopefully the final will be more of a game. Getting tired of one-sided beatdowns of Toulouse.
Sour grapes, from the French, is that not vinegar, c'ome , Leinster won fair and square, Toulouse never looked like taking control. Ireland rugby team have not faired well under Wayne Barnes down the years, he is no friend of ours, yours Barn Owl
i didint know Barnes was irish.
I didn't know there are bigger CONSPIRACY THEORISTS than David Icke !!
Barnes has screwed Ireland many times in the past
Neutrals are strongly requested here, (Saffas, Kiwis, Aussies, English,...) you are welcome to bring us your lights about this game
Please not the saffas, they're even saltier than the French!
Barnes played for Leinster ? đ
Surment. 100%
Absolute bollocks.
Guillaumeroger:
Cut out the Wild WHACKY Conspiracy Theories, You can't sugarcoat the fact that Leinster were far superior to The French team .
Least biased French fan:
Ramos is expensive for toulouse and costs the match, BARNES is expensive for Leinster and earns an house. Well play Barnes!
Why would he need a house over there when heâs welcome to stay over at any given place?đ€Ł
Parsifal:
Leave all conspiracy theories to David Icke !!
The only flair you have now is French flaring up at the mouth not man enough to take the defeat arrogantly believing you were the better team just because you are French [ WITH HALF OF YOUR players foreign } and club foreign owned, , years ago you used to say what gallant losers to teams like Leinster who had no money only hope, now you are on the receiving end you do not like it and complain like spoilt little brats, you have now lost any respect we had for you, yours Erick Cantona
"Neti stands his ground here".
That's it. One of the most ridiculous decisions I've seen on a rugby pitch.
porter the grub gets away with it again
Cry me a river. Neti shouldâve been sent off
Well played at the leinster victory well deserved too much forward on our side, Ramos and ntamack did not respond present and especially 2 yellow card that we could have largely avoided when at the arbitration he was pretty bad of the Irish player who plunges into the ruck, who illegally clearing or enters on the side of the ruck and high tackle on malia that have not been penalized
Srsly? Van de Flier went straight through the gate, only to receive a sinister headbutt by a certain Rodrigue Neti. The guy should cop a hefty ban..
Hopefully Wayne Barnes won't be the ref against La Rochelle and ROG will warn his players against the tricks employed by the leinsters cheats to get the others carded.
Nothing worst than a sore loser and whingers which displays no class !! By the way how did Leinster cheat ?? What game were you watching ? Your player head butted should have got red , no discipline you French , remember Antonio red card ??? and Ramos boobed big time. Dupont made no show. Your manager whinges and blames everyone but himself. At least Mr Dupont showed some class in his post match comments unlike your manager and other whinging Toulouse supporters. Ireland No. 1 Rugby team in the World and Leinster No 1 in Europe. đ You were lucky last year , see you in Aviva May, đđ
Gchelem:
You are seeing conspiracies around every corner !!
@@josephfinnegan151 i am seeing a tackle by Porter which deserved a yellow. Go La Rochelle, eliminate the cheats. Barnes is a c..t and whenever a French team plays somehow his referring is completely biased. They think the dude can speak 3 words in bad French so that makes him a good candidate. He is mediocre and biased. Same during the 6 nations. Hope the french federation will end up refusing him as a ref eventually.
Is it a surprise with Barnes and an English ref board ?!? The bigger it is, the more it's acceptable đ
Bluemaverick:
Don't be green with envy !! Toulouse were crushed, so leave the conspiracy to David Icke it's his territory not yours !!
Barnes, famous in Ireland for being awful against Ireland and Irish teams? Yeah you're clueless aren't you...
What is wrong with French people, do you not understand that the English are enemies of the Irish
â@@sl_721 what is xrong with irish people, don't you know anglo saxon are sworn enemies of thes french? English, irish, whe don't make any difference.
@@parsifal1869 well thatâs your problem. Irish and French fought together in many battles against the Anglo Saxon English. By the way, there are more people with Germanic DNA in France than in Ireland. The Irish are Celtic people
Leinster thank you Mr Barnes !
Leinster has only the Toulouse indiscipline to thank, especially the pack & Ramosâ howler of an interception attempt.. the rest was down to new found physicality by Leinsterâs forwards, certainly learnt their lessons from last yrâs final
Keep crying! Leinster were the better team
The second row try to push the ruck with his head and the second yellow card is for toulouse i don't understand
Do ya have eyes? Toulouse prop Rodrigue Neti rammed his head like a rhino into JVDF's throid & throat area..
Lol.. really now..we saffas can't complain bout referees bout now I hear it đwas a good game..yes we all know Barnes down here
I genuinely donât understand. Was there a controversial card decision for Leinster? I genuinely donât know and will be corrected.. Iâm glad it wasnât red from the point of view of the contest but Iâve never seen as clear a red as Netiâs. Hel be cited and banned for 5 Iâd say. Anyhow, great game and as always big love from Leinster to Toulouse. You guys are the GOATS of this comp,
1. Did you see the match. Just before half time Porter did a dangerous tackle by picking a Toulouse player and dumping him over the horizontal before the Toulouse try. Not even a second look for a yellow whilst Neti who arguably was bracing for van der flier second charge and was looking for it got a yellow. Leinster was better but fact is we lost 30-0 points when we were 14 men
Nah Neti should be banned for a year, anglo-saxon commissions will try đ€Ą
In my pov, he acted dumb but come one, Van der Flier is not innocent...
@@wolfburner2262 I was at the game and missed porters tackle live. Maybe a point there. Would need to see it a few more times. As for Neti however he had time, lined van der flier up and made a decision to go high. One of the few head to head contacts where you can genuinely say he knew what he was doing. He was incredibly lucky not to see red and I expect him to be cited and banned for 3 to 5 games. Anyway, it was a great game and itâs always huge when Leinster play Toulouse. Thereâs no team we respect more.
@@wolfburner2262 ntmack puts a head shot on ringrose, you ignore that . Malia got put on his back, nothing dangerous. French fans are soo one sighted
â@@wolfburner2262 If you lose 30-0 over a 20 minute period, that's your own fault regardless of what happens.
Leinster led from the front the entire game. Even if there was no cards given, Leinster were never losing that game. They spoke about how much they were hurting from last years losses and have been working on their game all year. The fact that they put 19 points on a very good Toulouse team without Sexton, Henshaw, Lowe & Kelleher is extremely impressive. La Rochelle will be an even tougher test as I canât see them losing to Exeter but ultimately I donât see anyone beating this Leinster team. And the same goes for the URC. I believe they will win the double this year. They really are a formidable & unplayable team when they are at their best. And I love to see them constantly prove the jealous & bitter haters wrong!
I was pissed when the 2nd yellow was given. It gave the French an excuse
Thanks harry, from a humble Leinster fan from as far back when we won nothing.
Josh VDF 2022 world rugby player, Antoine Dupont 2021 world rugby player. One is taller than the other.
One is also far better, scored 1 try and set up 2 more..