Windsurfing - the board volume debate
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 26. 02. 2022
- Paul and Nick talk about board volume of choice in relation to their different body weights.
Many people still se to sail with very low volume boards when a slightly higher volume board might be more forgiving, get planing faster and allow you to have more fun on the water - especially with modern free wave board designs.
What do you think? Leave your comments below and be part of the debate đ€đ„ - Sport
im 80kg and I ride 70l wave and 105l slalom. A smaller slamom board would feel better but as you said it's good to have volume under the feet when the wind drops....especially if youre miles out to sea!
I'm 84kg and ride 104L Quatro Cube - which works all the way down to 3.5. My 94L JP Ultimate Wave (3.5 - 4.7) - more technique needed through messy whitewater on the way out but is superb for waveriding. Feels very light and nimble and yet big enough to deal with lulls. My preferred board when windy. I sail on the South Coast. I had an 83 but tedious if the wind dropped!
Hey - thanks for your comment.
Exactly - smaller boards sail awesome in their windows but if the waves and or wind is inconsistent a bit more volume makes a massive difference especially if the board shape and rocker is maintained.
BooM, I'm the 500th subscriber.
I have many boards, but my core quiver is 4 custom made boards. Their volumes are 88, 90, 101 and 115. All are tri fins. I live in Cape Town so within 7 minutes from my house I'm at Sunset Beach, down the line side shore in often strong winds and ground swell. I'm usually 90 kg. The 115 I had made to deal with the winter NW winds which can be iffy. I didn't expect to use it much but it's been a life saver on so many sessions in summer. As I have small kids and do the cooking I need to be home earlier than most folk and many times Cape Town only gets windy much later. I use all four boards, the 88 is a very different board to the others. It's very short, with a very deep double concave, quite parallel rails and an ultra thin tail. It's very squirrely and not advisable for mast high or more but on small waves it totally shreds. The only disadvantage is the lower volume so you need some wind.
My opinion of board size is that in the past people sailed really tiny boards, myself included. The trend is bigger boards for a lot of folk. Where I sail if the wind goes slightly offshore it can mean the inside is rather dead and so the extra volume does help you getting out. A well designed board can also handle choppy waters and still be quite large. I'm harping on but my 115 really sails like a much smaller board. If I was forced to take only one board, I'd take the 101 litre. For most people I would recommend a wave board 10 litres above your weight. That's a massive generalisation, as it depends on skill and conditions you sail in. In reality the majority of folk are sailing onshore or cross-on with small wind swell. A larger board for many would be a great benefit but I think in windsurfing there was (maybe still is to a small degree) an element of being "cool" if you can sail a small board. I don't know if that's the case, not with my group of mates but when I started more than 20 years ago you were cool if you could sail a board volume less than your weight. I guess it's evolution within our sport.
Not everyone has the budget or space for many boards, I can definitely recommend some more fins as a way to change the way your board sails. Guys in onshore conditions maybe struggling to plane or keep planing could benefit from larger fins. But that's another discussion.
Hey Adrian - itâs Paul here from BooM!
You are an absolute legend sir - onwards and upwards to 1000 subs.
Yep - totally agree with everything youâve said.
Our board volume debate video has now clocked up over 15k views which proves itâs a hot topic.
I agree too that most people of all levels would benefit from more volume in an a modern wave/ freewave design but thereâs still the snob factor of sailing a lower volume board which in many peopleâs eyes means youâre a better sailor.
Do you go on Benâs Capetown clinics?
@@boomwindsurfing2744 thanks Paul. Yeah I attended a short clinic with Ben. Money WELL spent. He's such a great instructor. Really had fun with him.
Hi, I am a Canadian (Southern Alberta) sailor, 78 kg without equipment so add 7 kg at least for full wetsuit, harness, boots, lifejacket, etc. I also lake sail at 2500 to 4500 ft elevation so the air is less dense. We have mostly gusty variable direction wind so getting back to the starting point is important. I prefer raf sails due to their greater wind range and tend to try to sail overpowered in the gusts and more fully powered in the lulls. Boards in the 120 liter range and a 6.8 sail work well with forgiving characteristics so they make me look good on the water. Downsizing the board size requires much more concentration/challenge but I have a 105 liter starboard kombat pared with a sailworks 4.8 hucker and 25 plus knots that is fun to sail when the winds are more consistant. Occasionally board size below 100 liter happens, just have to save some energy for those days. Winds here are more in the 6.5-7.5 sail size range three days a week, 4.5 to 6.0 one or two days a week with occasional higher winds. Spring and fall are best. Summer time is catamaran time with a few windsurfing sessions mixed in.
Hey all, I'm 105kg and sail 116lL 3s and 106L 3s, been sailing 30 yrs . 17 in Perth Australia.
Cooden and Pevensey sailer originally, and Rye lake !
71kg, Fanatic Freewave thruster 96 ltr, 6.2-5.3-4.5 m sails. No wave sailing, no freestyle. Usually choppy/gnarly conditions or flat water, wind 16-35kn, not more. My focus is on gybing on my freewave kit when not using slalom (89-136ltr) or formula (foil) boards. I like the additional floating reserve which gets me back home even if the wind dies. I can uphaul when I have to. My go to sail is a powerful Atlas 6.2 (max recommended size for this board) allowing me to get going at >15 kn and up to 30 kn if I have to. In former years a smaller board made life easier in stronger winds but with improved skills I can handle the board nicely in a very broad range of conditions (My 89 ltr slalom board is rarely used. It is pure luxury since conditions for that size/behaviour are simply too rare here in Nelson/NZ.) Cheers!
I'm 91kg, I sail on the east coast of Australia. Usual conditions are cross onshore, with a side shore rip in gusty conditions, my most used sail is a 5.7m power wave sail, then probably 5.2m. I have been sailing for 35 years now. I have a Patrik wave QT 113 board that I mainly use with a 5m up to 6.2m sail. Used 11.5cm thrusters with a 25cm centre fin and change to 22cm fin if its less rip and more wind. I also have a 103 quad wave board and a 101 X wave which is a freestyle wave board but more wave than freestyle. I can use 5.7m down to 4.5m on these and although nearly the same size they are very different boards and both get used. Quad when the waves are better thruster when I need more speed and upwind. I then also have an 89 litre Angulo custom which is from windy 5m down to 4.2m sails. Great board but rarely gets used. Patrik is probably most used board now as its comfortable and forgiving and if time is precious then it goes in any wind and is still fun.
Spot-on Dunny - It used to be that I would try to get onto as small a board as possible as quick as possible and that's just not needed anymore. Board design has improved so much, to the point that early planing and high wind control are no longer mutually exclusive.
I'm 82kg and have an 85 wave board as my high wind board, Goya One 105 as my light wind wave board and a 127 slalom for breezy summer days! I used to have a 73l wave board for very high winds but the control of my 85 in 3.7 weather is better than the old 73. If I wanted a one-board quiver, I'd go for a 92-95l freewave.
As you say, it's all about having the most fun and if you can't float, you're not going to have much fun! đ€đ»đ€đ»đ€đ»
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Great video guys thanks. Iâm returning to windsurfing after almost a decade away. As a younger bloke sailing on the south coast of the UK everyone was lower in volume. As a 90-95kg sail may board of choice for many years was a SB acid 88. Still have that board, still love it. Saying all that Iâm now in South Australia and am rebuilding my board quiver. Iâm 92kg and just got a Fanatic tri wave 103 and a 115 tabou rocket. On a recent 5m day the acid 88 came out and didnât feel out of place either as an older single fin.
Hey Mick - glad you enjoyed the clip and thanks for comments.
Like you I had a break and came back 4 years ago. Best thing I ever did. I still canât believe I stopped sailing for 18 years!!
Sounds like youâre building a tidy board quiver. Enjoy đ€đ„
Hi folks, I think like many I have come back to the sport after a 15 year break. I pretty much learnt on a Tiga 263 bump and jump (no idea on volume but think low 80's?) being around 85kg going to that from a 3.6m barge back in the day. I am now 89kg and about a year ago, I found an 11 year old JP freestyle 95L for sale locally and bought that for ÂŁ320. I love it, great for flat water blasting and chop. I even had 40.64mph max and 100m average of 39.69mph out of it with a 5.4m sail recently at West Kirby.
There is a lot of good second hand kit out there for those wanting to get into the sport or don't have the budget for new gear. I know the new equipment has a bit more wind range, but the older stuff still works a treat. Plus, the sense of satisfaction of passing someone who took to pee out of your gear on the beach, saying "I remember those from back in the day".... is priceless đ€Ł
I don't do a huge amount in the way of wave sailing, but do struggle with the higher volume boards in big chop/ waves. So I guess your board choice does depend on where you sail as much as your weight and sailing style. I have just bought an old Thommen X85 wave board, and that is nice in open water and waves being a smaller volume and slower than the JP. I have only used it once so far, but came in with a big grin and wanting more so, so far so good.
I would say that your fin choice is probably as important, if not more so, than board size. A good board with the wrong sized fin is going to be hard work, so worth having a couple of sizes and styles and swapping them round on a session to see if it helps or makes it worse.
Sounds awesome Tim. Thanks for commenting and watching the content.
A future feature will be old v new kit. đ€đ„
The saltness of the water affects buoyancy a lot, the same board can feel 10l smaller in fresh water compared to very salty water, so its not as simple as saying boars volume buoyancy= weight in kg. Im 75kg, with winter wetsuit, harness, boots, rig weight etc, the total weight on the board is around 90kg, I can comfortably take a 76l board in 20knots and float around in UK conditions. For me personally its the most fun to sail the smallest board you can sail (unless its very gusty, then use bigger board and smaller sail)
i agree. as long as you can waterstart, lowest volume is nicest. Except when you need to plane easily through shorebreak, then volume is useful
Great vid đ. I am 97kg and lately I've been enjoying my 2010 110L fanatic hawk in bump and jump conditions from 18-33 knots of wind. I have used my 6.5, 5.5, 5.2 and 5.0 on this board with 35, 31, 29cm fins and I think for me 110L is a very versatile size as I can cover a large range of conditions and sail sizes. đ€
Paul thanks again for a great discussion. I've been really enjoying these videos. I'm 81-84kg and sail mostly lakes and The Gorge after taking a break for 10-15 years. I've gotten quite a few boards over the last couple years and my favorite sizes tend to be around 91 - 95 -115 Liters. I think I have 9 boards now. I'm old school so I'm used to sailing really small boards and it's been challenging to retrain my mind to think of board volume in larger sizes, because when the wind gets holey my 85 JP FSW just sinks under my feet and in I go. Going small or heavier(older boards) was a way to get more control in the past in turned up conditions but with the new boards and fins they hold the volume a lot better and offer that control without sinking as much under your feet.
For lake sailing or very holy conditions I'll take something bigger that I can uphaul if I have to like a 115 or 145.
I'm also used to sailing older boards from the 80's,90's so the new boards have a more upright stance which takes some getting used to. The sails as well have changed quite a bit being more forward with the power and lighter in the hand.
Hoping to get out on the water this year. Cheers!
Hey - great to hear your set up and great youâre loving the content. We have loads planned for this year.
Sounds like you have the bases covered with your quiver - nice. Happy sailing đ€đ„
Hi Paul, it's Andrea from Sardinia Italy. Love your videos and today you posted a very interesting description of your quiver. I am 72 kilos, I sail mostly in side shore or side off with consistent waves (up to 5 metres....yes in Sardinia there are big waves!). My quiver is Tabou 86 litres and Da Bomb 97 for the light wind days. Sails: Goya Guru. Maybe I will buy a 78/82 litres for the stongest wind days
Hey Andrea. Wow, Sardinia sounds awesome and your conditions really nice đ€
Thatâs a great set of boards you have with good volume for your weight. Lots of fun!
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Great Video! I sail on the Great Lakes in Ontario Canada. Fresh water, wind blown waves up to logo high usually cross on to cross shore. I am 75kg, I have a 103L Starboard Kode for freestyle and small waves. I use a 4.1 - 6.2 with the Kode. My second board, a 107L Starboard Black Box, I use until the waves get cleaner for me this is onshore - cross on shore waves up to head high waves. I use this board with a 4.7 and 5.3. I use the Black Box as 2+1 thruster (big centre fin) instead of the supplied trailer because I find it goes upwind way better this way and there for I catch more waves. For the windy days I have a Fanatic 87L Stubby. This board I ride 3.4 - 4.7. It tends to be attracted to rocks (I think I am often under powered on when I go out with the stubby) so it as many repairs. Fresh water means my boards have much less float and usually subtracts 5-10L from the expected float of the board. I probably could get away with a mid to high 90L board if I just had one board. Or a freestyle board and Low 90L board for a 2 board quiver.
Sounds sensible. Seawater is only about 3% more buoyant, though, so don't feel to disadvantaged...
Excellent topic guys!! I do mostly flat-ish water sailing and some bump and jump slightly wavy stuff, the wind is often gusty where we sail in Auckland New Zealand.......
I am 79-80kg, my big board is a Severne Fox 105, I sail this with 7m-5.3m. I have a Starboard Kode Freewave 94L which I can sail 6m-4.7m, this would be my most used board (only got it recently as I felt the Dyno 85 didn't have enough go for the 5.3-6m range). When its 4.7m-4.2m time, I use the Severne Dyno 85 in most cases.
Initially when I only had the 105 Fox and the 85 Dyno, I had a problem in the 5.3 wind range, there are some great days where we can can bump and jump in the waves and of course the 105 Fox is just the wrong board, and so I would try and use the Dyno 85 but I found it was just too hard to get going really hard work to get it to come alive, the 5.3 felt too big and out of balance for the board....So I tried the 94L Kode and it changed everything....
I think there is a point at which your weight (within reason) plays less of a part, but for sure I have learned that having that little bit more volume can really transform a session and liven up your session.
Sounds brilliant Kev. I have to say the Kode looks a great board. Interesting how many people just click with a certain board and itâs đ„đ
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I think linked to modern board shapes is how the sail size is more important than rider weight. Weight + 10 L (or whatever) gives you a tiny board if you are 65 kg. Too small except for the windiest of days. I think a 85 kg person will plane faster on a 95 L board than a 65 kg person on a 75 L board.
I also wonder how forgiving a 75 L board would be for a 65 kg person compared to a 85kg/95L setup.
Having said this, where I sail in winter storms it's not breaking swell and most people have newer 85 L boards and (maybe) older 75 L boards.
Hi, I am 90-95kg and sail in a variety of conditions in Adelaide and SA. I recently got a Pyro 99 and love it. Sail size plays a big part in board selection as the sail creates mast foot pressure. Too smaller sail wonât keep the board planted and it will be hard to control. If the sail is too big it will overrun the board. Thatâs why board designers put a suggested sail size range to match the boards volume. I have tried sailing with a sail thatâs too small and it sucks. I would suggest if you want one board you need a Pyro style board with +5-10 litres of volume to your weight.
If I was building a Quiver 105, 93,
After 40 years on the water and having having owned (too) many boards from free race to 67ltr waveboards I decided 3 years ago to strip down my quiver considerably. I weigh
72kgs and I live now in Portugal (Atlantic Ocean), often cross-on or cross with groundswell. I have ordered a one-do-it-all Flikka board: An 85 ltr compact wave board with quad fin setup. I'll sail this board with only 3 sails (Ezzy Wave, huuuge wind range!); 5.5/4.7 and 4.0.
I found that having fewer boards and sails to choose from had a positive impact on:
- quality time on the water (yes, sometimes a 4.2 would've been better than the 4.0 but would it have been the hassle of changing? No.)
- it also makes it much easier to choose the right sail. I mean, who needs a 4.7, 5.0, 5.2 gap?
Just to be clear: I also have 1 summer freeride setup: a 95 freerace Tabou with 6.0 Ezzy Cheetah and I have a 75ltr thruster wave board that I prefer over the 85 when sailing in strong winds but that happens maybe 5 times a year. So there you go, that's my angle at the question.
Hey - great comment and loving the sound of your new Flika, they are great boards and a few of my friends have them.
I think youâve got a great set up there and I totally get the concept of one board and 3 sails which takes away a lot of decision making.
For me (itâs Paul here) being a bit heavier and having a spread of boards to suit different conditions works for me but itâs a very personal thing and there is a cost both in $ and space / transport to move that about.
Iâm going to do an updated board volume debate video soon now the weather is getting better. Thanks for your support đ€đ„
Great video guys đ
Need to get you on here soon.
I'm 57kg(5'4") just bought my first small board Tabou 3S 86L initially I thought I can't take it out unless the wind is min 17knots. But no I can sail her even in 5knts
New wave boards are amazing. Im 81 kgs and got rid of all my small gear. Got a Jp 103 lts freestyle wave 2021 LXT. Its perfect for the whole coast average wind year here in Chile. 15-26 knots. Wave n flat water and its even ready to foil. Its great. Cool vid guys
Real Wave surfer guy!
@@constantinocruz8017 hey youuu little bro lol. See you in Matanzas đđđđđž
Thanks for the comment Francisco. Your 103 sounds great. Iâve watched some videos of windsurfing in Chile, looks incredible. Enjoy đ€đ„
76kg, 5â7â, mostly coastal flatwater, bump and jump and onshore/side shore wavesailing in mushy waves.
Use a 2010 115l Fanatic Freewave for light wind and waves with a 2022 5.7 Goya Banzai X or 2018 Goya Banzai X. For medium wind and waves, use a 2019 99 liter Fanatic Stubby TE with sails ranging from 4.0, 4.5, 5.2 (all early 2000s Ezzy Wave SEâs in very good shape), and 2022 Goya 5.7 Banzai X. For flatwater and bump and jump, use 2014 97l Fanatic Hawk limited edition with the Goya 5.7 or 6.3 Banzai X or 2022 6.4 Goya Nexus B.
Found myself able to use the Hawk and Nexus as my light wind blasting kit. Only use the 115 liter Fanatic for waves.
Would prefer to have a modern multi-fin 115-ish FSW board to replace the Hawk and Freewave, but theyâre pretty hard to find used and Iâm not ready to spend $2500 on a new board. Besides, still enjoying my old stuff.
Loving the modern higher volume waveboards. Took a while to figure out fin setups that work in our strong currents, but they really perform well in the crappy waves we get here.
85kg and sailing mostly in the north of France : Normandy and Wissant as well as well as the south of France around Leucate.
Main boards : Grip 89 (59.5 width) for 3.7 up to 4.7. Killer fish custom quad 110l (64 width) for 4.7 up to 5.8. And I used to have a Starboard quad 81 for sails 3.2 up to 4.2, just broke it (thanks Eunice !), I wonder if I buy another small board or if I try my Grip 89 in strong winds...
I used to have much smaller boards years ago but the multifin let me increase the volume of my boards wich is great !
Volume alone doesn't tell the story. Board shape and width is where it's at. Tail width too. 86KG sailing all sorts of small to medium wave conditions in Cornwall. I am on a 100L Witchcraft Shaman which sails like a dream in 4.0 to 5.8m weather. If I would change anything I would go for a Witchcraft Haka same volume and it has a touch more rocker and is slightly narrower overall. đ€
I am 93 kilos and sail in Leucate France and in Holland, never waves, always bump and jump and gusty. I have a Simmer freemove 120 that I sail with 8.5 through to 5.3. Super board. When it gets too much for my 120/5.3, I change to my RRD FSW 94 and go one sail up, to my 6.3, That then keeps me safe and going, down to my 4.2. Above 40-45 knots I get out and watch the freestyle kids.
Nice video, building a quiver is always interesting. I am 72-73kg. Main board is a 2015 Goya quad 84. Which is perfect for 3.7-4.2-4.7. According to the recommendation that board can be sailed with 5.3 but I do not like it with such a big rig. For years I had a freestyle wave 95 above it, but the waveriding always felt kind of stiff on those. Had a goya custom truster 92, after that, which was ok with 5.3 but was on the limit with 6.2, so i got rid of that rig. After a session last year with a freestyle board of 99L I got amazed how quick they plane. Non planning with the 92 and full power on the freestyle board. So now I have a as my 5.3 combo a 95 L quatro sphere thruster and a freestyle board. Everything covered from 15-40kts.
Thanks Yann for the feedback and your set up sounds like a dream line up. đ€đ„
v useful. Unfortunately in the med I am mostly on anything over 7.2 sail wise - and 100l - 121l boardwise - 82. kg. Just got a 86l board and hoping to explore that this friday - hence looking at this with some trepidation! - Cheers guys!
Hi everyone! I'm 75kg and surf mostly with bump and jump conditions. I got 80, 93 and 111 liters board.
Great video, the Boards volume if you are going for one board , body weight +5-10 litres. New boards have their volume perfectly distributed to allow you to maximise the usable volume,
new boards definitely have better distribution of useable volume than older boards. I have a 99 litre Pyro I am 90-95 kg and can float and ride it no problem, My 105 Tabou is no more floaty than the 99 Pyro.
Sail sizes are important, the board designers typically provide an optimal sail size range to match the boards volume. ( The Pyro 99 sail range is 6.7-5.0m) The sails need to create enough mast foot pressure to keep the board planted. sailing a board without enough or too much mast foot pressure sucks.
The other considerations are the conditions you sail in , I sail in a variety of conditions from float n ride down the line , bump and jump, sea breeze blasting and stormy cross-on to onshore, so the Pyro all rounder style suits me well.
If I was going to build a quiver 2 boards only 99Pyro & 93 or 87Pyro.
You can probably go + or - 0.5m2 than the recommended sail size, but much more and you will really notice it IHO.
What Tabou board are you comparing it to?
cool, I just got the same boards and are now getting rid of the Tabou DaBomb, instead I have Severne Dyno with 115l. I am 95kg. Severne Pyro 99 works really well for me even with smaller sails down to 4.8 in stronger winds. No need for a smaller board though, haven`t touched my 83l Waveboard in years
Great video. I'm 6'2" 200lbs and my sweetspot is cube 106 or custom 4 104l. I wish someone made a performance longboard for marginal days. Im amazed how well a dedicated wave board works for lake sailing. Such better turns and sharper performance. Happy sailing to you all
They used to in the late 80âs. Then the drive for smaller boards made the sport almost impossible to get into for beginners.
It was a sport full of high wind tyros (at least where I sailed on Hayling Island) who looked down if you didnât have a âsinkerâ.
My favourite boards: the original Windsurfer Regatta and the late 80âs Mistral One Design with footstraps, sliding mast foot and fully retracting daggerboard. Great build quality and could take you everywhere you could wish to go.
80 k.g bodyweight goya one 95 light wind Bruch madness 84 high wind. Width is more important then volume. Goya One is smaller then the average freewave so i sail on it with 4.5 overpowered no problem. For wavesailing conditions i still prefer a board with no more volume then 5 l above bodyweight with wind 21 knts average or more
The more you get in your quiver, harder is the choice.
88kg sailing in France Leucate and arround. In light wind I'm somehow using the same 6.2 with 95, 112, 115 and 150L boards... depends on the mood, lazyness, spot, salt or fresh water, water temp, flat or choppy, wind and 'gustiness'.
And the xp level: I used 112L(3.5/5.6) and 150L (6.2/8.5) old freeride (2.70) until I felt ready to switch for 95L and a 115L modern Freerace(2.40). I'm still using the big boards, when I'm lazy or when I want to (re)work Gybes with more forgiving boards...
Last ride I made a mistake and used the 95L. Spot is fresh water, the wind went down when I get in, 18/24knots(still 30max gust), it was a pain with 5m, switched too late to 5.6m and still was not fun, I should have used the 112.
Hey. Thanks for the comments.
In a way youâre right. Simple is always best.
I now have:
113 for lighter winds / float and ride
105 : 5.7 & 5.2.
93: 5.2, 4.8, 4.4 and 4.0
86 : 4.0 and 4.0 and now too small for me given I am 94 kg
82kg Witchcraft Chakra 105 my go to board. High wind 4 to 4.7 then Witchcraft Wave 86. Also slalom and foil kit for the lighter days. Agree totally that more volume wave orientated boards are just easier.
Nice one Glen. Great to hear your views and what youâre using. Great combo with a 105 and 86. Witchcraft are cool boards. đ€đ„
I'm 82 kg and jp freestyle wave 94 is outstanding.
For me (ca. 80 kilos) itâs not only the sheer volume, but the width and the characteristic of the board. However, my small board is about my weight (+1 or 2 ltrs) - 3,7 - 5,0 (allround wave, control oriented). 2nd about 7 or 8 ltr plus, 4,0 - 5,7 (on-shore bias, performance), 3rd +15-20 ltrs. Freewave! 4,5 - 6,5! On-shore/bump+jump. For less wind I use a wing and foilđ
I agree with this. I have an 85 and 95l Quatro Cube (different years so slightly different plan shape and rocker line) and I find they plane in almost the same wind (surprisingly the 85 may even plane slightly earlier than the 95 in the right conditions with a 5.3), but I can wallow around more on the 95 than on the 85. So I'll always use the 95 if there is a chance I have to wallow home or if it's float and ride. There is a nice overlap where 4.7 and 5.3 work well on both boards, so I can chose the board not only based on wind strength, but also on water state, wave type etc. I'm 85 kg... and unfortunately don't get to sail very often these days.
Great topic. 65ish kg sailing chop to bump n jump. I found an 85 Freewave works for me. Too much volume, say sailing a 108ltr, and I struggle to get it round the corners and keep it under control. It does make taking easier though đ
Nice one PC. Again youâre sitting at roughly 25L over your equivalent body weight and no doubt having great sessions. Glad youâre enjoying the channel. Must give you a call for a catch up soon đ€đ„
@@boomwindsurfing2744 I would probably want more volume if I had to bog out through a break but those aren't my local conditions
70 kilos and sailing on lakes, mostly using 110 liters with big sails for light days, then usually my 90 liters fsw would take almost anything from 5.0 to 3.7 unless I sail the bigggg days and go down to 75 liters wave board.
Wow. There you go. So on average youâre sailing 30L over your equivalent body weight and I bet you have awesome sailing sessions. đ€đ„
The eternal question!!! Where do you sail mostly, sail size, sailing style and how much can you afford to invest in good gear!! If I stop watching videos of cross off wave sailing then Iâm usually happy on a FSW 10-15litres more than body weight.
Firstly does anyone under the age of 40 windsurf anymore?? I've just got back into it after a 20 year break and I'm the youngest on the beach and I'm 41! I'm looking to buy a board but don't know what volume to go for. I'm 80ish kgs and sail up in Scotland so it gets pretty windy. Im currently using an old starboard evil twin 89l but I find it hard to get on plane unless I'm really powered up. I was toying with the idea of getting a 95l stubby as an all rounder... But its a very hard choice to make unless you can get a shot of different boards...
Hi Kerr. Trying boards before you buy isnât easy.
Where do you sail. Weâre just outside of Edinburgh and sail on the east coast beaches and also at Troon in the west. Plenty of boards to have a shot of among those sailors.
And yes - the middle age man situation is a problem and ultimately thatâs the mission of BooMWindsurfing, to attract more people into the sport and to retain them in the sport. We need to build the pipeline of the next generation of windsurfers which isnât easy given the cost of kit and finding places to get lessons/ hire kit is very difficult.
Yep, just finished teaching my 30 year old son. Took him 7 weekends and he's off in the harness and straps......we have a One Design around 230 litres, which he calls HMAS Safety Bay, named after where we do most of our sailing in Perth, Western Australia.
I learnt to sail when i was pregnant with my son and only stopped when i couldn't get back up on the board.....so technically he's been sailing before he was born lol.
I have three boards in my quiver... tiga 254....starboard S type 104.....exocet nano 135. Three decades of sailing and it never gets old.
How do you deal with chop on the bigger boards though? I find going past 63-64cm width starts to get difficult when its 5m weather.
Also riding side-on windswell and occasional groundswell.
You defo get more bounce when itâs choppy with a bigger board. Thatâs why I have different volume boards so I can change the board to suit the conditions. I also change my riding position to suit the conditions so in chop I just relax more, lots of knee flex, pick a path and do shorter runs.
Hola, como funciona la ONE 115L para hecer freeride, y como funciona para hacer olas, dobla realmente?? gracias!
Shape is as important as volume think.
I'm 65kg and at a low intermediate/improver level. I can't waterstart consistently and haven't carve gyb'ed. I am looking at a Goya Vapor 145L. for my first board. I'm afraid to go any lower because I think I won't be able to stand on the board as it won't be stable enough for me. I am used to hiring out 170/180L boards at the moment. I've been told that a board like this will lift up in higher winds with smaller sails, however, I don't go out in anything over F4 at the moment. Is this a suitable board for my level? Can anyone offer any advice of what they used/purchased when they were into the early days of their windsurfing journey?
Hey Richard. Apologies for the late reply and thank for being a subscriber and for commenting đ€
That board would suit you well and should also sell well as you progress.
Did you end up buying it and if so how did you get on?
I recently bought a Starboard Kode 125 which has really impressed me. More volume in modern boards = more fun. Thatâs what we want right.
Happy sailing đ€đ„
Im afraid I can't contribute with recent experience - I hade a brake of 20 years with almost no windsurfing.. And now getting 55 I restart - and everything is different, short, wide, everybody talking bout volume. In those days I just looked at the length..
I'd like to ask you guys something: just bought a JP Superlightwind with 10.0 and 12.0 sails for conditions I've never could have surfed back then. It's so hard! The shortness of the board and these flat super loose-leech sails. Maybe you can help me with tipps how to trim the equipment and maybe also others are interested.
Thank you and hang loose
Hey Kristof- great to hear from you and great to hear youâre back in the sport đ€đ„
Those sails are massive so unless youâre on a long, old fashioned race board they going to feel huge on a board around or under 300 cm long. Look forward fut
Hey@@boomwindsurfing2744! Have we met somewhere before?
Hi Paul, have you sailed your Quantum 115 against the Goya Custom 4 Pro 114? I am 96kg looking for a big waveboard for side-onshore. I am bit scared about the 66cm width of the Quantum and I don't want a sluggish board. My other Board is a Grip 102.
I havenât sailed the Custom 4 Pro 114 but I have sailed the Custom One 3 Pro 115 so I can compare that to the Quantum 115.
The Goya One got planning really quickly and really sat up slicing through the chop and felt sharper & more directional than the Quantum 115.
The quantum definitely had a bounce to it when it got going but it was super soft and smooth on the waves which was good. It was less good as a bump and jump board and was sluggish to get going - even although I sailed it as a tri.
The Goya One Custom 114 is similar to the One 3 Pro but less freewave and more of a dedicated wave profile and a quad. I know someone who had one and he said it was great on a wave but struggled to get going without a wave.
So I would go for the One 3 Pro 115 for side on shore.
I currently have a Severne Pyro 113 which has been good but Iâm about to change it at the end of the year for a Starboard Kode. They are great freewave boards and excel in x on / on shore conditions and bump and jump.
Video on all that coming soon.
@@boomwindsurfing2744 Thank you! I have sailed the One 115 also, on a float and ride day with 5.7. Was ok, but for me it felt heavy, more muted than reaktiv and quick. On the wave it felt good, for a board that size. So if you say the One 115 planes quicker, than the Quantum is for sure not the right board for me.
Goof videos well done
98kg and I ride a 113 Patrik Wave board, use with 6.5 to 4.7m
Hi James! I also weight 98 kg and im starting on windsurf. Do you recommend 113 lts boards for someone my weight?. thanks for posting! greetings from Germany!
@@negrolazcano I think that if you're really just starting to windsurf it's better to not start with wave sailing and rather start with not-so-waving conditions and a bigger board. At your weight a free ride board with 135-150l would be enough. As a beginner you would fall a lot and in waves it will get more complicated to get on the board back, especially if you haven't mastered water start and it will be a battle against exhaustion.
So 90% of the time you sail the 93 litre, the other 10 % you sail thinking " I wish I was on my 93"đ
Haha. Nice one Chaz. I think about 60% of my sailing is on the 115 but I think Iâll use the Pyro 93 more than I did the Quantum 95.
Excited about getting my replacement to the 115 later this year đ€đ„