Thanks for the video! I thought the whole intake manifold had to come off the get at the injector. I have over 482,000 miles on my 05 Safari and if my injector went, I probably would have said goodbye but now I might attempt this! Great job!
Mines not a van it’s a Silverado 4.3 same engine. But you explained things way better than all the others on CZcams. Only problem I had was getting the spider injectors down from kinking up on me and the fuel lines on top to tighten those down.
Mike, at the end of the video, you were talking about fixing a problem with a bad vibration that would be in the next video. I don't know what video it is. What was the problem that fixed the shaking? I can't find the problem.
I put in custom engine lift brackets - Those of use with lifted Astro's can lift the engine and transmission back up into the body where it belongs which lifts the oil pan out of harms way... The set we made was made on a jig that was off, once we figured that out Dave corrected it, I put a new set in and went back to rubber engine mounts - All is well
I'm running 3 bottles of Lucas 25 gal treatments for a tank . I'm due for the spider replacement at 170k . I put in overtime for the last month . I'm gonna have a shop do it . I'll have them lower the back shackle bolts to give me another 11/2 inches up in the back . The weather here has been pretty nice , I've been riding my 78 Honda more than wrenching lately . Tribe!
Great job Mike. I replaced the spider on a ‘98 Tahoe 5.7. It was easier to position the spider after I warmed up the new one with a hair dryer. Not sure if it matters with yours but the 2 extra cylinders seemed to make it a little stiff.
So it looks to be your injectors were already swapped to the updated version by the previous owner. I had the same with my 2003. Had to remove the lower manifold to push them out from underneath because they were so stuck. great work! knew you could do it
Great video, while you where there you really should have done the lower half of the intake manifold as they are really dirty with oil and carbon. I know this as I have both the express vans and safari vans, and yes on 03-04 vans they came with the updated spider.
it runs the actuator for your air conditioning - The missing 1/4" hose-line is supposed to run over the top of the engine and connect to a plastic connector coming off another line to the right of your AC compressor
my injector never tried to just slip in evene when i stried to bolt it down it didbt go into place idk what i was doing wron gi bolted the cover down over 7 times now and the injector stil isnt wantingti clip in
Don't know what to tell you, I didn't have that issue... One of the tips did stick in the port when removed so I had to pry the bits out - Did you inspect the parts you removed to see if anything looked broken which would likely mean parts of the injectors are stuck in the ports?
Dude you didn’t show how to get the individual injectors out of the engine. You even noticed they don’t pinch out. You skipped right over the part I came here for. Dumb.
You need to get you a GoPro or something with one of those headsets that you can attach the GoPro to and wear it on your head, that way you can use both your hands and get (mostly) all of it on film
It defiantly looks like you have the wrong upper coolant hose installed someone has zipped tied it it should lay on the fan shroud where those two raised plastic pieces are wrong upper hose can cause inpropper serculation witch can lead to air pockets I’ve bought my van new in 98 still have have it to this day I basically know everything in and out
Hard to tell with camera moving around but those spark plug wires don't look like they're connected to the cap in proper order... Look lapped over wrong lol.. Shouldn't be crossed over like that unless it's my eyes playing tricks on me.. Woulda never put a zip tie on that vacuum tube like that.. You have any idea what a bitch that thing is going to be to get off now!? Good thing it'll likely be awhile before you ever have to lol
@@AstroVanTribe so its normal for this to happen? Rpms are low but it seems like “riding the clutch” in a stick shift. The engine bogs down and shakes and ignition timing jumps to 25def btc..
@@u2ooberboober Well that doesn't sound normal... I'm not a mechanic, I'm just trying to figure out the issues I have with my van while upgrading all the parts so I can travel more with less issues - I can't diagnose your particular issues
I think it was the random code - I have videos on the CV axles, I've replaced them three times and will be doing it again soon because the new ones I recently installed both have boot tears. I bought replacement boots but will swap out the entire CV's then rebuild the current ones so I have them on the shelf, stay tuned
Im about to do this same thing. How did you get the stuck injector out? You assumed you just had to pull it, but said "We will have to figure that out".
maybe 2 people....but if you got no help im sure its a major pain. I think mine is shot to...defiantly gona have a shop do this....BIG problem is the cost.....that dam spider injector is min $300
Standard brand in this video - I replaced it again (in 2-1/2 hours) with an AC Delco brand a few months ago - Had a misfire but I think all it needed was a computer sync which I also had done - No more misfire
Lowd have mercy! I absolutely hate working on vans! I like your enthusiasm, cuz from here it looks like quite the pain in the @$$. I used to like chevy's then I had to work on them, if they are so bent on cutting costs, why then do they use 3 inch bolts where one half that long would work? I could tell you how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop (420, I do see the irony there, lol) But we'll probably never know why GM will shave off as much as they can but still use more expensive hardware. This is why I drive Hondas, my 04 Accord has 270k miles on it and I have only done oil changes, brakes and tires. Still runs and drives like new. If it weren't Pops van I'd chuck it and buy him a toyota sienna (Toyota makes the best auto trans Honda the best engines I got a manual trans with mine) But he loves that POS and He's 83 you wouldn't think he just had a triple bypass a couple months ago the way he gets around, lol. So I happily indulge his cantankery. Honestly he's not that bad, he's quite hilarious on many occasions, lol. If you have a vibration while in gear it could be the torque converter if you haven't figured out what's wrong with it already my chiming in four months after video, lol. If that's the case, just put it in neutral while stopped and live with it. It could work just fine for years like that. Have a great day.
I hear you, there's just not another vehicle out there that has the capacity this thing has, it's truck parts under the chassis, can easily be converted to 4x4, has a good amount of interior space but still the foot print of a Subaru I sorted the vibration today, the engine lift brackets were off and I re-did the engine mounts
@@AstroVanTribe That's really some great info, the footprint of a Subaru, that's pretty cool especially when you consider the amount of room inside. So glad to hear you sorted out the vibration, If it ain't from imbalanced wheels it can be pretty nerve racking going down the road while your teeth get rattled around involuntarily, LOL.
"this is how you learn". True words. Only way to get it done is to get it done. Nice work.
Thanks for the video! I thought the whole intake manifold had to come off the get at the injector. I have over 482,000 miles on my 05 Safari and if my injector went, I probably would have said goodbye but now I might attempt this! Great job!
Mines not a van it’s a Silverado 4.3 same engine. But you explained things way better than all the others on CZcams. Only problem I had was getting the spider injectors down from kinking up on me and the fuel lines on top to tighten those down.
Mike, at the end of the video, you were talking about fixing a problem with a bad vibration that would be in the next video. I don't know what video it is. What was the problem that fixed the shaking? I can't find the problem.
I put in custom engine lift brackets - Those of use with lifted Astro's can lift the engine and transmission back up into the body where it belongs which lifts the oil pan out of harms way... The set we made was made on a jig that was off, once we figured that out Dave corrected it, I put a new set in and went back to rubber engine mounts - All is well
I'm running 3 bottles of Lucas 25 gal treatments for a tank . I'm due for the spider replacement at 170k . I put in overtime for the last month . I'm gonna have a shop do it . I'll have them lower the back shackle bolts to give me another 11/2 inches up in the back . The weather here has been pretty nice , I've been riding my 78 Honda more than wrenching lately . Tribe!
Learning this now. Very smooth sound.
Great job Mike. I replaced the spider on a ‘98 Tahoe 5.7. It was easier to position the spider after I warmed up the new one with a hair dryer. Not sure if it matters with yours but the 2 extra cylinders seemed to make it a little stiff.
So it looks to be your injectors were already swapped to the updated version by the previous owner. I had the same with my 2003. Had to remove the lower manifold to push them out from underneath because they were so stuck. great work! knew you could do it
I understood the 3rd generation had this system - See the comment above
Great job Mike! Knew you could do it man.
Muy buen trabajo Amigo👍🏼🔧🧰
Great video, while you where there you really should have done the lower half of the intake manifold as they are really dirty with oil and carbon. I know this as I have both the express vans and safari vans, and yes on 03-04 vans they came with the updated spider.
Hey buddy that vacuum line that had the hole where does it run too? That come off the driver side valve cover. Mine is missing sucking air like crazy
it runs the actuator for your air conditioning - The missing 1/4" hose-line is supposed to run over the top of the engine and connect to a plastic connector coming off another line to the right of your AC compressor
@@AstroVanTribeok thanks for the reply buddy. I will check and see if I see a vacuum port by the air conditioning
I miss my 89 Astro, but would like a 2004 next time. Mike in Oregon
my injector never tried to just slip in evene when i stried to bolt it down it didbt go into place idk what i was doing wron gi bolted the cover down over 7 times now and the injector stil isnt wantingti clip in
Don't know what to tell you, I didn't have that issue... One of the tips did stick in the port when removed so I had to pry the bits out - Did you inspect the parts you removed to see if anything looked broken which would likely mean parts of the injectors are stuck in the ports?
Living in the mountains I can attest to putting a screen over the air intake. The mice will find a way into your air filter and build a nest.
My 99 Astro has a fuel pressure regulator just ahead of the spider injectors that needs replacement.
Dude you didn’t show how to get the individual injectors out of the engine. You even noticed they don’t pinch out. You skipped right over the part I came here for. Dumb.
They pulled right out, you need finger-tip strength... Having typed that, I'm not a mechanic and this isn't a "how to" video
You need to get you a GoPro or something with one of those headsets that you can attach the GoPro to and wear it on your head, that way you can use both your hands and get (mostly) all of it on film
It defiantly looks like you have the wrong upper coolant hose installed someone has zipped tied it it should lay on the fan shroud where those two raised plastic pieces are wrong upper hose can cause inpropper serculation witch can lead to air pockets I’ve bought my van new in 98 still have have it to this day I basically know everything in and out
Excelente amigó
My 03 had that same spider injector
Hard to tell with camera moving around but those spark plug wires don't look like they're connected to the cap in proper order... Look lapped over wrong lol.. Shouldn't be crossed over like that unless it's my eyes playing tricks on me..
Woulda never put a zip tie on that vacuum tube like that.. You have any idea what a bitch that thing is going to be to get off now!? Good thing it'll likely be awhile before you ever have to lol
Wires were fine, ziptie was temporary, hose clamp is now on
Any ideas of why there is torque in gear while applying brakes than in park? I have a similar issue with my 1500
It's called the transmission - When in park it isn't in gear, when it's in gear the torque is what makes the thing go down the road
@@AstroVanTribe so its normal for this to happen? Rpms are low but it seems like “riding the clutch” in a stick shift. The engine bogs down and shakes and ignition timing jumps to 25def btc..
@@u2ooberboober Well that doesn't sound normal... I'm not a mechanic, I'm just trying to figure out the issues I have with my van while upgrading all the parts so I can travel more with less issues - I can't diagnose your particular issues
On this episode of Junkyard Digs...😂
good video...i think they started the better injectors in 02...
Since making this video I learned this was started with the "3rd generation" '03 -'05 so that was my original spider system from '04
Great job! What codes were you getting? P0300? CV joint replaced, how difficult was that?
I think it was the random code - I have videos on the CV axles, I've replaced them three times and will be doing it again soon because the new ones I recently installed both have boot tears. I bought replacement boots but will swap out the entire CV's then rebuild the current ones so I have them on the shelf, stay tuned
2004 came from the factory with the new spider.
Off hand question... when you're pulling the dog house off, there's a wire going to a tab that is riveted to the cover itself... what is that for?
Ground wire
What Dave said... Every time I put the plastic heat duct back it pulls that thing out - I have to be real diligent about that one
Im about to do this same thing. How did you get the stuck injector out? You assumed you just had to pull it, but said "We will have to figure that out".
pliers - When you do enough of this stuff you always figure a way.....
Not that big of a deal? Are you kidding me?
maybe 2 people....but if you got no help im sure its a major pain. I think mine is shot to...defiantly gona have a shop do this....BIG problem is the cost.....that dam spider injector is min $300
What brand assembly did you use?
Standard brand in this video - I replaced it again (in 2-1/2 hours) with an AC Delco brand a few months ago - Had a misfire but I think all it needed was a computer sync which I also had done - No more misfire
Lowd have mercy! I absolutely hate working on vans! I like your enthusiasm, cuz from here it looks like quite the pain in the @$$. I used to like chevy's then I had to work on them, if they are so bent on cutting costs, why then do they use 3 inch bolts where one half that long would work? I could tell you how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop (420, I do see the irony there, lol) But we'll probably never know why GM will shave off as much as they can but still use more expensive hardware. This is why I drive Hondas, my 04 Accord has 270k miles on it and I have only done oil changes, brakes and tires. Still runs and drives like new.
If it weren't Pops van I'd chuck it and buy him a toyota sienna (Toyota makes the best auto trans Honda the best engines I got a manual trans with mine) But he loves that POS and He's 83 you wouldn't think he just had a triple bypass a couple months ago the way he gets around, lol. So I happily indulge his cantankery. Honestly he's not that bad, he's quite hilarious on many occasions, lol.
If you have a vibration while in gear it could be the torque converter if you haven't figured out what's wrong with it already my chiming in four months after video, lol. If that's the case, just put it in neutral while stopped and live with it. It could work just fine for years like that. Have a great day.
I hear you, there's just not another vehicle out there that has the capacity this thing has, it's truck parts under the chassis, can easily be converted to 4x4, has a good amount of interior space but still the foot print of a Subaru
I sorted the vibration today, the engine lift brackets were off and I re-did the engine mounts
@@AstroVanTribe That's really some great info, the footprint of a Subaru, that's pretty cool especially when you consider the amount of room inside.
So glad to hear you sorted out the vibration, If it ain't from imbalanced wheels it can be pretty nerve racking going down the road while your teeth get rattled around involuntarily, LOL.
Is this an electronic system
Its the fuel injectors
Where did you purchase your gasket set and any other parts you needed to purchase?
Crazy story, a guy I met gave me a storage unit full of parts for a 2004 AWD Astro Van: czcams.com/video/V19j-78pAiU/video.html