“Difficulty Level: Moderate”: *NOW* it is, now that we’re here watching your video! I’ve just spent the past year reading every. damned. document. that includes the words “salicylic acid” and “solubility,” as well as reading all the arguments in chemistry forums and on beauty and chemistry blogs until I got a perma-pain between my eyebrows! I’ve been wanting to make a SA gel (but the hell with the “2%” and “3.5 pH” FDA rules!), and I swear that when I go to sleep, propanediol, octyldodecanol, propylene glycol, glycerin, sodium lactate, etc all swirl around in my brain in a gluey muck … but certainly no SA gel! I feel as if I’ve *at last* found my holy grail, and it helps having seen you do it in a video; I’m not certain that at this point I’d have believed it if I’d merely *read* about it! Thanks *ever* so much for creating a DEFINITIVE guide to dissolving SA (and the cherry on top is that you happened to make a gel! As soon as I’m finished composing this, I’m gonna do a happy dance!). You are my hero, and looking over the comments, it appears you’re not only *my* hero, either! SA is a bitch, but you’ve wrestled and submitted her, and she tapped out! After my dance, I’m off to check out Essential Wholesale as it’s the least I can do to reward you for what you’ve done. Again, thanks so, so much for helping me and a lotta seemingly other confustimated SA users (or wannabe users who were stymied by SA)! You’re a gem, and I hope EW knows what a miracle they have on their payroll!
I feel like you were "reading my mail," because I have been experiencing the same frustration trying to educate myself to better skin care/health management. There is just a virtual sea of "disjointed" information out there that is difficult for the average person to piece together in a useable manner. It is migraine inducing, sometimes! It is reassuring to know that I am not the only one who feels like their wheels have been spinning fast but going nowhere. A year out from your comment, may I ask, did you try it, and is it working well for you? I'm excited to try it, myself!
It was a great and informative video about salicylic acid, i had the exact same problem of crystallisation after i manage to dissolve it initially with heat. Now i know the trick lies with the pH and addition of Sodium citrate..thanks a lot...happy formulating..
I Need a preservative for face wash,cream,gel,lotion,bodywash But it should be free from alcohol, ether,paraben, aldehyde grp And it must to be effective against Broad spectrum negative and positive,fungi,mould etc
I was able to dissolve 15% salicylic acid in propylene glycol. If you make a solution first of propylene glycol and 15% salicylic acid, you can then determine how much to add to your water to reach the maximum amount of salicylic allowed. The maximum allowed is 2% of your formula/recipe. You could also use the recipe provided and replace the alcohol with propylene glycol. You will then need a preservative - you could use 1% Optiphen plus.
@@clausskjdt5048 I believe they are saying that the solution they make (which is then added to the whole cosmetic) is 15% salycilic and therrfore 85% propylene glycol I'm assuming this becasue they don't advocate making a product with salycilic acid at more than 2%. So to reach the 2% number, you'd use that 15-SA+85-PG solution as 7.5% of whatever recipe (15/7.5=2) You can solubilize (word?) sa in bulk and have it on hand already prepared to add into a variety of cosmetic
@@clausskjdt5048 based in my research the ratio between salicylic acid to propylene glycol is 1:4. one being one part salicylic acid and four parts propylene glycol. eg. 2% salicylic acid can be dissolved in 8% propylene glycol.
Hi I saw the complete video and read the whole article as well, but there are some points missing, which made me stop buying the material and proceed further, I will be really thankful if you tell me what the expiry of this serum is. and how to use it. and also can we use Isopropyl Alcohol to mix with salicylic Acid?
thanks for ur videos, can i ask u about salicylic acid cream for acne, is it mandatory to render the final ph 3.5? or i can render it 5.5 to match with the skin ph? really i appreciate ur answer.
Thank you so sincerely for sharing this information. I'm making a dry powder micro exfoliant for the face. Can I just add the salicylic acid powder to the dry mix, as I then mix the dry mix with water to create a paste to use directly on the face?
Hello,thank you for this wonderful video.really helpful. I'm trying to use propylene glycol to dissolve salicylic acid. Do I use 100g propylene and 2g salicylic acid?
Hi, im still not getting the salicylic acid dilution. Do you dissolve 2 g powder in 100ml alcohol to get 2% solution? Then use all of it in the recipe? Sorry that part was a bit confusing to follow
You want to actually weigh out your alcohol, not measure it in volume as weight is a more accurate way of measuring. Please read the blog linked below for our explanation of this issue. So if you have 2 grams of Salicylic acid and you want to have a final 2% solution, you would need to weigh out 100 grams of alcohol. And then yes, use it all in the recipe (-: library.essentialwholesale.com/ingredient-weight-vs-volume/
I just made this twice... first crystallised. So 2nd i added 1gram (extra from what is on the list below) sodium citrate to the alcohol mix, let it cool over night to see if it crystallised. It didn't. So i then did the other steps with the demineralised water, SC (the 4.54 grams on the list below) and SB. i then added the HA. this has also crystallised.... The alcohol im using is vodka 95%, its a product from Poland. How much more SC should i add??
Do you work with individuals to create their own skin care line?? I've been a fan if your videos. They give me a greater understanding of ingredients than my chemistry ⚗ teachers have.
If i was looking to make a mask containing salicylic acid , could i just combine it as is into a cream base and powdered clays or would i need to dissolve it? Thank you
Thank you for posting. It seems like you heat the water phase, but do *not* need to heat the solubolized salicylic acid before you combine the two phases?
I’ve seen other formulators use sodium lactate to dissolve SA. Is that another option to dissolve SA or does sodium lactate covert SA to a different/less effective chemical compound?
Glycols are organic alcohol. SA only dissolves in alcohol. Ethanol, isopropanol, ethylene glycol, propylene glycol, etc. Sodium lactate is the salt or the sodium part of lactic acid. Therefore no it won't dissolve and will crystallize.
Hi, Teenaka, can you tell how to dissolve Mandelic Acid for a peel ? I don't stay in the US so, no worries infact I have the powder and solvents in front of me. Thank you.
Hi and thanks for the great and necessary video 👍. I'd like to mix salicylic acid powder with an aloe vera gel to make 2% aloe vera body gel. First, I'm gonna use glycerin to dissolve the salicylic acid powder but do I need to add some sodium carbonate and citric acid too for pH balance and how much, while heating up the mixture, before I can blend the glycerin-salisylic mixture with the aloe vera gel or is that ready to be used without any of these two extra ingredients? You mentioned something about pH. 3.5 and sodium carbonate.
I believe you mean sodium citrate OR sodium bicarbonate. Sodium citrate can basically be replaced by mixing citric acid and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda). The regulations state that products sold on the market cannot be below 3.5pH, so not only is the sodium citrate being used for helping dissolve the salicylic acid, but also adjusting pH.
in the video about your mans body spray, including my question there were quite a few other questions. You did not reply to any that were wanting answers. Whats in the body/Linen spray.
Good informative video .. Thank you .. Please how to make salicylic acid lotion ... I diisolve in proplyn glycol but when adding water it becomes crystals
Hello! great video! I wanted to know if it would work with sodium lactate. I was going to test out this theory and found that sodium lactate was much more natural.
Hi, lovely video! Could you please tell me how I would know when to use an additional ingredient to support another (sodium citrate -- salicylic acid)? Thanks! I am learning to make skincare, and there are many little things that I have to pay attention to.
In the case of sodium citrate and salicylic acid (SA), it is about solubilizing. At pH levels below 3.5, you often get SA precipitating out of solution and FDA regulations require pH level of above 3.5. As for the question about additional ingredients to support another, it’s a very broad question as there are many ingredients and many supporting ingredients as well as contraindications. You would need to research into each ingredient and the final product outcome desire.
Salicylic Acid can be solubilized using ethanol, glycols, and nonionic ethoxylated fatty alcohols. It’s not an easy ingredient to work with, but I find warming up the glycol helps to solubilize the acid better.
It is not soluble in many things, but if you use about 1.5% salicylic acid powder to glycerin, you should be able to get it to dissolve. That, however, would create a 1.5% solution in the glycerin.
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Am I right to assume that re-crystallization is only a problem when the pH is too high? And if that's the case, could I just leave the baking soda out? I'm only making serum for myself, so there are no industry standards I'd have to stick to
It is not soluble in oil. We have had no luck with this even when trying multiple different methods. Even when it looked like it solubilized, it would crystal out.
If I want to make 2% salicylic acid serum and I have 2% salicylic acid dissolved in 98% propylene glycol, how do I know how much SA solution should I put in my serum to reach 2%? Is there any formula?
Per cent literally means 'per hundred'. Take 2% and that means 2 per 100 or 2 divided by 100 which equals 0.02, now take the total of the salicylic acid solution example 75g, multiply 75 and .02 which is 1.5g of salicylic acid in the solution. Add total weight of the other ingredients in the formulation example 50g to the weight of the solution 75g which is 125g total. Since you have 1.5g of salicylic acid in there then divide 1.5g / 125g which is .012. Multiply .012 by 100 and you get 1.2% salicylic acid. No matter how much 2% you add it will never be more than 2% in the serum because it is getting diluted. You need a stronger percentage to dilute down to get 2% total in the end.
Thank you for video.....how much should be the pH for a serum or a cream with acids? (AHA or BHA)? I have learned, if you neutralize acids, they loose their efficacy.....but I also know, serums and creams should be pH 5-6? Thats why I am a little bit confused....I have all these products at home, and I use acids only for peeling, but I never used it in serums and creams before...Greetings from Germany
She answers your question several times in the video: the FDA requires the pH be less than 3.5 to be considered “spa-quality.” Beyond that and it’s considered a drug.
If you are making it to sell in the United States, the PH has to be 3.5 or less under FDA rules. But if it is for personal use only of course you can adjust the PH to your own taste (with an outlook toward safety).
You want to reduce the concentration 2 times lower, so you need to add the same amount of alcohol in grams. If you have 100g of 20% acid add another 100g of alcohol to get 200g of 10% acid
At the end of Your video « allantoin winter facial serum » => why didn’t u show us how to test the Ph of the product and if need to lower/raise => show us how do to it ? It would be great
Lovely video, the only thing is dat it is not clear why the measurements for water, salicylic acid, sodium citrate are. It will help to say for example 1 g, 3 g, etc. But thanks for sharing.
do you still need to add sodium citrate if you dissolve using only the propylene glycol? will it not crystalize with just the propylene glycol and no sodium citrate? thanks
Essential Wholesale & Labs hi thanks for getting back to me...I managed to dissolve it in propylene glycol without the citrate and I put it aside as a stick solution though when it came to adding it to my formula it crystallised again....I tried heating my formula before adding it too yet it still crystallised...it made no sense as to why the stock solution remains fine but when adding it to a formula it crystallises...have you any idea as to why this may be? Again thanks for taking the time to reply to me it’s much appreciated
@@somethingaboutnay6019 probably because (i assume) the rest of your formula has water. I that case you'll need to ad sodium citrate or sodium lactate, to prevent the crystal formation.
@@bellavidahana for example my formula is: glycerin 10%, propylen glycol 63.3%, sodium lactate 5%, water 19.7%, salicylic acid 2%. Although I'm still working on decreasing the propylene glycol and increasing the water and maybe the sodium lactate too, but I haven't had time to try a new formula. But the last time I tried, those percentages worked perfectly. And I mix then all at room temperature, first the SA with the PG, then SL, then Glycerin, when all that it's completely clear i add the water.
Owww. I truly love ur video...! I wish I can be around you every time when you are in the lab...so interesting ❤️. Thank you very much for your video! May I have the recipe of this video please!?
Does hyaluronic acid normally re-precipitate in water? I dissolved hyaluronic acid in water and it turned into a satisfying thick gel for a couple of days, and then a layer of white goo appeared at the bottom of my potion, the water became fluid again. If I shake it well for a few minutes the solution becomes thickened, but then again it split into water and white matter at the bottom. Is this how hyaluronic acid behaves normally? Or I have bough some strange thing?
I have seen this occur with HA whenever the pH is too low. Did you check your final gel’s pH? Have you tried adjusting the pH once it becomes that fluid?
@@EssentialLabsOfficial Thanks. I'll look at it. I just dissolved it in water and didn't do any pH checking. I guess HA may have altered the pH itself.
Hello, please answer my question, Now the pH of salicylic acid is 2.4 does it mean it needs the products’ pH to be in this level so that it could be effective? If I raised the pH to 5.5 like our skin’s pH won’t it be effective?
Salicylic Acid is a Beta Hydroxy Acid and a larger molecule than Alpha Hydroxy Acids. Unlike Alpha Hydroxy Acids, Salicylic Acid is able to perform effectively at a higher pH, and actually is better for the skin than a lower pH salicylic acid product. Without getting too technical, the amount of free non-dissociate salicylic acid is not a factor in the efficacy of the salicylic acid. In fact, the lower the pH of the solution of salicylic acid, the more likely you will experience skin irritation and barrier disruption. Sources: Bashir SJ, Dreher F, Chew AL, et al. Cutaneous bioassay of salicylic acid as a keratolytic. Int J Pharm. 2005;292(1-2):187-194. Merinville, E., Byrne, A.J., Rawlings, A.V., Muggleton, A.J. and Laloeuf, A.C. (2010), Original Contribution: Three clinical studies showing the anti‐aging benefits of sodium salicylate in human skin. Journal of Cosmetic Dermatology, 9: 174-184.
@@EssentialLabsOfficial so what do you think is the ideal pH for salicylic acid products, 3 or 4 ? and what do you mean by -the amount of free non-dissociate salicylic acid-?
Wow! Natural teacher! Thank you for such a clear explanation. Would salicylic acid dissolve in 96% alcohol? and also Can I make this with distilled water?
Hi there, great video! I dissolved 2% salicylic into 10% propylene glycol. I then mixed it into 88% warmed distilled water. A few seconds after I mixed the solution into the water it turned white and slightly coagulated. Can you please help fix this? I’m trying to make a 2% sprayable solution.
SA is not an easy ingredient to work with and can easily crash out of water. Before writing off what you’re doing however, have you checked the pH of the final product? Adjusting the pH might help thin it down. I would start there first.
Essential Wholesale & Labs thanks for your reply! The final product is 3.5 ph. I’ll try an adjuster on the next batch. I’ll also try deionized water. I’ll let you know if that changes anything.
Can i immerse green tea in methylated spirit 100 percent and after 1 week i want to strain my tincture. I want to add my mct oil in the tincture and let spirit to completly evaporate. Will that give me green tea infused mct oil?
@@EssentialLabsOfficial please tell me how to dissolve kojicacid dipalmitate in mct oil. I dissolved it by heat but after sometime my oil became cloudy. In my country we have very few options plz i want to dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate in mct oil as i m prone to fungal acne. Your guidence will immensely help me. 1.you can tell me how to dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate in mct oil. 2.can i dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate in my propylene 3. 3. Glyceryl caprylate is a fungal acne safe ester can you tell me how to use it to make emulsions and cream . Due to my fungal acne i am unable to use cetyl alcohol and traditional polysorbates. Plz help me creating a cream base with fungal acne safe oils, emulsifiers and fatty alcohol. Currently i can use only water based gel.
Hi Jamila! I'm not sure about pennilyn glycol. Have you thought about propanediol? It is another alternative to propylene glycol. We have a blog post explaining propanediol vs propylene glycol >> library.essentialwholesale.com/propylene-glycol-alternative-propanediol/ Unfortunately we aren't currently selling our stock of propanediol until we can get a stable supply. Check our website in a few months and it should be back in stock.
Hi Drew! Check out this blog post. We recommend a few packaging suppliers at the bottom of the post. library.essentialwholesale.com/creating-your-skicare-bill-of-material/
Does it have to be sodium citrate anhydrous? Or is sodium citrate dihydrate okay? Thanks so much Edit: maybe I'm confusing this for sodium acetate...? Is all sodium citrate anhydrous..?
@@quantumlooper9162 I actually have some sodium lactate on hand (a 60% liquid solution). Can I replace sodium acetate with this? If so, how should I change the ratio to water? I assume, since the lactate is a solution already, I'll have to cut water and add more sodium to end up proportional to the original recipe... But is S Lactate as effective as S Acetate..? Eg, do I have to add even more than that to keep SA dissolved?
@@ivymazzola1214 No. Sodium citrate is the salt from citric acid (from citrus fruits). Sodium lactate and sodium acetate are completely different salts and cannot be substituted for sodium citrate. Only sodium citrate will work in formulas for preventing re-crystallization - which is its purpose here.
@@quantumlooper9162 Ooh, okay! Thank you! Wow, so many sodiums in the world.. I even used the wrong name for your salt above... Where did I get acetate from 😅 This is very helpful info, thank you very much!
Without knowing what is in your HA serum exactly, it’s hard to answer this. However, my first impression if it’s a basic HA serum, is that no, the Salicylic would not dissolve.
Only if the witch hazel has been extracted through one of the mediums that also dissolves salicylic acid. Witch hazel that we sell will not work as it is water based.
“Difficulty Level: Moderate”: *NOW* it is, now that we’re here watching your video! I’ve just spent the past year reading every. damned. document. that includes the words “salicylic acid” and “solubility,” as well as reading all the arguments in chemistry forums and on beauty and chemistry blogs until I got a perma-pain between my eyebrows!
I’ve been wanting to make a SA gel (but the hell with the “2%” and “3.5 pH” FDA rules!), and I swear that when I go to sleep, propanediol, octyldodecanol, propylene glycol, glycerin, sodium lactate, etc all swirl around in my brain in a gluey muck … but certainly no SA gel!
I feel as if I’ve *at last* found my holy grail, and it helps having seen you do it in a video; I’m not certain that at this point I’d have believed it if I’d merely *read* about it!
Thanks *ever* so much for creating a DEFINITIVE guide to dissolving SA (and the cherry on top is that you happened to make a gel! As soon as I’m finished composing this, I’m gonna do a happy dance!). You are my hero, and looking over the comments, it appears you’re not only *my* hero, either! SA is a bitch, but you’ve wrestled and submitted her, and she tapped out!
After my dance, I’m off to check out Essential Wholesale as it’s the least I can do to reward you for what you’ve done. Again, thanks so, so much for helping me and a lotta seemingly other confustimated SA users (or wannabe users who were stymied by SA)! You’re a gem, and I hope EW knows what a miracle they have on their payroll!
I feel like you were "reading my mail," because I have been experiencing the same frustration trying to educate myself to better skin care/health management. There is just a virtual sea of "disjointed" information out there that is difficult for the average person to piece together in a useable manner. It is migraine inducing, sometimes! It is reassuring to know that I am not the only one who feels like their wheels have been spinning fast but going nowhere. A year out from your comment, may I ask, did you try it, and is it working well for you? I'm excited to try it, myself!
Thank you for the informative video. For how long the mixture of salicylic acid and propylene glycol can remain preserved and usable? Thanks
It was a great and informative video about salicylic acid, i had the exact same problem of crystallisation after i manage to dissolve it initially with heat. Now i know the trick lies with the pH and addition of Sodium citrate..thanks a lot...happy formulating..
Very informative video. Thank you so much for the information and recipe breakdown in the detail section.
You're welcome! Glad that you found it helpful.
I love revisiting these videos I made, it helps to remind me of great processes like this! Thanks for posting this again Essential!
Would you recommend this recipe (using propylene glycol to dissolve the salicylic acid) for people with slightly sensitive skin? :)
I Need a preservative for face wash,cream,gel,lotion,bodywash
But it should be free from alcohol, ether,paraben, aldehyde grp
And it must to be effective against Broad spectrum negative and positive,fungi,mould etc
Would you explain me how much to use Propylene glycol to dissolve salicylic acid in water?
I was able to dissolve 15% salicylic acid in propylene glycol.
If you make a solution first of propylene glycol and 15% salicylic acid, you can then determine how much to add to your water to reach the maximum amount of salicylic allowed. The maximum allowed is 2% of your formula/recipe.
You could also use the recipe provided and replace the alcohol with propylene glycol. You will then need a preservative - you could use 1% Optiphen plus.
Thank you for the video! Would 91% alcohol work for this?
@@EssentialLabsOfficial how much propylen glycol for 15 % salicylic ?
@@clausskjdt5048 I believe they are saying that the solution they make (which is then added to the whole cosmetic) is 15% salycilic and therrfore 85% propylene glycol
I'm assuming this becasue they don't advocate making a product with salycilic acid at more than 2%.
So to reach the 2% number, you'd use that 15-SA+85-PG solution as 7.5% of whatever recipe (15/7.5=2)
You can solubilize (word?) sa in bulk and have it on hand already prepared to add into a variety of cosmetic
@@clausskjdt5048 based in my research the ratio between salicylic acid to propylene glycol is 1:4. one being one part salicylic acid and four parts propylene glycol. eg. 2% salicylic acid can be dissolved in 8% propylene glycol.
Hi
I saw the complete video and read the whole article as well, but there are some points missing, which made me stop buying the material and proceed further, I will be really thankful if you tell me what the expiry of this serum is. and how to use it. and also can we use Isopropyl Alcohol to mix with salicylic Acid?
how about preservative?
i watched a lot of videos and you are the only one that didn't use any preservative
please I need an answer
For the alcohol, could you use isopropyl alcohol?
Will attempting this using propylene glycol cause any issues forming a nice gel using hyalauronic acid? Does it also affect the clarity at all?
Can you please tell the expiry date after making
thanks for ur videos, can i ask u about salicylic acid cream for acne, is it mandatory to render the final ph 3.5? or i can render it 5.5 to match with the skin ph?
really i appreciate ur answer.
Thank you so much for your explanation
You're welcome!
Very nice video explaining everything so clearly
Thank you so sincerely for sharing this information. I'm making a dry powder micro exfoliant for the face. Can I just add the salicylic acid powder to the dry mix, as I then mix the dry mix with water to create a paste to use directly on the face?
Can a salicylic acid formulation be used under the eye? Like in a eye cream or serum
Hello,thank you for this wonderful video.really helpful. I'm trying to use propylene glycol to dissolve salicylic acid. Do I use 100g propylene and 2g salicylic acid?
You use 98g Propylene and 2g SA.
Can one make salicylic acid soap? Will it be potent or caustic soda will react with acid?
Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge!
Hi, im still not getting the salicylic acid dilution. Do you dissolve 2 g powder in 100ml alcohol to get 2% solution? Then use all of it in the recipe? Sorry that part was a bit confusing to follow
You want to actually weigh out your alcohol, not measure it in volume as weight is a more accurate way of measuring. Please read the blog linked below for our explanation of this issue. So if you have 2 grams of Salicylic acid and you want to have a final 2% solution, you would need to weigh out 100 grams of alcohol. And then yes, use it all in the recipe (-:
library.essentialwholesale.com/ingredient-weight-vs-volume/
Thank you for this great and helpful content
Is there any problem if I use potasium sorbate + sodium benzoate as preservatives?
I just made this twice... first crystallised. So 2nd i added 1gram (extra from what is on the list below) sodium citrate to the alcohol mix, let it cool over night to see if it crystallised. It didn't. So i then did the other steps with the demineralised water, SC (the 4.54 grams on the list below) and SB. i then added the HA. this has also crystallised.... The alcohol im using is vodka 95%, its a product from Poland. How much more SC should i add??
Is there anyway to convert the percentages to ounces
Do you work with individuals to create their own skin care line?? I've been a fan if your videos. They give me a greater understanding of ingredients than my chemistry ⚗ teachers have.
I would like to make a product to solve my oily seborrheic scalp, is it ok to use this serum or do you recommend something else?
How many percent of sodium citrate I need to use in the formula to prevent crystallization of salicylic acid solution
Thank you for your informative videos .
If i was looking to make a mask containing salicylic acid , could i just combine it as is into a cream base and powdered clays or would i need to dissolve it? Thank you
Thank you for posting. It seems like you heat the water phase, but do *not* need to heat the solubolized salicylic acid before you combine the two phases?
Thank u for u bids. Can u pls show how to use keratin powder to make a keratin hair serum to apply daily. Thak u
Salicylic acid reacts with sodium bicarbonate and water. Would be as useful using the resulting salt?
When i used zinc oxide i feel pain in under arm is it safe to use it?!
Hello Essential
Thanks for this content
I want to ask if I can use the liquid hyaluronic acid instead of the powder
sure. We don’t carry the liquid, so not sure what your liquid is, but most times it’s about 1% Hyaluronic acid in water and with a preservative.
It's a lovely video! I do not have hyaluronic acid. Can I use xanthan gum as my gelling agent?
Same like me, usually i use xanthan gum as gelling agent
hello can you please tell me how much to use proplyne glycol to dissolve 2gr of salicylic acid powder
I’ve seen other formulators use sodium lactate to dissolve SA. Is that another option to dissolve SA or does sodium lactate covert SA to a different/less effective chemical compound?
Glycols are organic alcohol. SA only dissolves in alcohol. Ethanol, isopropanol, ethylene glycol, propylene glycol, etc. Sodium lactate is the salt or the sodium part of lactic acid. Therefore no it won't dissolve and will crystallize.
Hi, Teenaka, can you tell how to dissolve Mandelic Acid for a peel ?
I don't stay in the US so, no worries infact I have the powder and solvents in front of me.
Thank you.
Hi and thanks for the great and necessary video 👍. I'd like to mix salicylic acid powder with an aloe vera gel to make 2% aloe vera body gel. First, I'm gonna use glycerin to dissolve the salicylic acid powder but do I need to add some sodium carbonate and citric acid too for pH balance and how much, while heating up the mixture, before I can blend the glycerin-salisylic mixture with the aloe vera gel or is that ready to be used without any of these two extra ingredients? You mentioned something about pH. 3.5 and sodium carbonate.
I believe you mean sodium citrate OR sodium bicarbonate. Sodium citrate can basically be replaced by mixing citric acid and sodium bicarbonate (baking soda). The regulations state that products sold on the market cannot be below 3.5pH, so not only is the sodium citrate being used for helping dissolve the salicylic acid, but also adjusting pH.
How to make 10% salicylic acid serum from pure salicylic powder.?
in the video about your mans body spray, including my question there were quite a few other questions. You did not reply to any that were wanting answers. Whats in the body/Linen spray.
Good informative video .. Thank you .. Please how to make salicylic acid lotion ... I diisolve in proplyn glycol but when adding water it becomes crystals
use sodium citrate to stop the salicylic acid from forming back into crystals. Not sure of the ratios though.
Thanks dear
thank you so much teacher
Hello! great video! I wanted to know if it would work with sodium lactate. I was going to test out this theory and found that sodium lactate was much more natural.
Hi, lovely video! Could you please tell me how I would know when to use an additional ingredient to support another (sodium citrate -- salicylic acid)? Thanks!
I am learning to make skincare, and there are many little things that I have to pay attention to.
In the case of sodium citrate and salicylic acid (SA), it is about solubilizing. At pH levels below 3.5, you often get SA precipitating out of solution and FDA regulations require pH level of above 3.5. As for the question about additional ingredients to support another, it’s a very broad question as there are many ingredients and many supporting ingredients as well as contraindications. You would need to research into each ingredient and the final product outcome desire.
Thank you. Bit confused on the measurement of products. Guess each ingredient will be less thm ml?
Hi Sheryl! For this recipe you will need to use a scale to measure out the weight of each ingredient.
Hello! Thank you for this VERY informative video. Just wondering if Butylene Glycol can be used as the solvent instead of alcohol?
Salicylic Acid can be solubilized using ethanol, glycols, and nonionic ethoxylated fatty alcohols. It’s not an easy ingredient to work with, but I find warming up the glycol helps to solubilize the acid better.
@@EssentialLabsOfficial can you do a video on making kojic acid from the powder available on the market?
Thanks ,what a great channel but I am so confused now 😂 need watch again.
Will the formula work with hyaluronic acid gel?
What about disolving the salicylic acid in vegetable glycerin? Also, how much salicylic acid do you use to create 2% solution?
It is not soluble in many things, but if you use about 1.5% salicylic acid powder to glycerin, you should be able to get it to dissolve. That, however, would create a 1.5% solution in the glycerin.
doesn't the salicylic acid turn to sodium salicylate because of adding sodium bicarbonate?
Doesn't the salicylic acid get converted to Sodium salicylate (salt of Salicylic acid) ?
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Auntie,
Wear a mask not to inhale any of those powders and not to cough into your product.
Gloves on your hands.
What about salicylic acid oil
Am I right to assume that re-crystallization is only a problem when the pH is too high? And if that's the case, could I just leave the baking soda out? I'm only making serum for myself, so there are no industry standards I'd have to stick to
Receystalization happens when the sodium citrate isn’t added.
I really appreciate your videos, I would be so grateful if you would do smaller batches, say 1 or 2 ounce sizes?
Thank you .
You're welcome :)
Hello! thanks for video, what would happen if you put the dissolve salicylic acid (in 96 alcohol) in oil instead?
It is not soluble in oil. We have had no luck with this even when trying multiple different methods. Even when it looked like it solubilized, it would crystal out.
If I want to make 2% salicylic acid serum and I have 2% salicylic acid dissolved in 98% propylene glycol, how do I know how much SA solution should I put in my serum to reach 2%? Is there any formula?
Per cent literally means 'per hundred'. Take 2% and that means 2 per 100 or 2 divided by 100 which equals 0.02, now take the total of the salicylic acid solution example 75g, multiply 75 and .02 which is 1.5g of salicylic acid in the solution. Add total weight of the other ingredients in the formulation example 50g to the weight of the solution 75g which is 125g total. Since you have 1.5g of salicylic acid in there then divide 1.5g / 125g which is .012. Multiply .012 by 100 and you get 1.2% salicylic acid. No matter how much 2% you add it will never be more than 2% in the serum because it is getting diluted. You need a stronger percentage to dilute down to get 2% total in the end.
Could would you please show how to make salicylic acid pads
Can can be dissolved salicylic acid in oil?
Thank you so much for your video
Glad it was helpful!
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Where do you buy your blender from ?
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Plz let me know how to dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate
Can we substitute sodium citrate for citric acid in this formulation?
No
Thank you for video.....how much should be the pH for a serum or a cream with acids? (AHA or BHA)? I have learned, if you neutralize acids, they loose their efficacy.....but I also know, serums and creams should be pH 5-6? Thats why I am a little bit confused....I have all these products at home, and I use acids only for peeling, but I never used it in serums and creams before...Greetings from Germany
She answers your question several times in the video: the FDA requires the pH be less than 3.5 to be considered “spa-quality.” Beyond that and it’s considered a drug.
If you are making it to sell in the United States, the PH has to be 3.5 or less under FDA rules. But if it is for personal use only of course you can adjust the PH to your own taste (with an outlook toward safety).
hello if I'm using salicylic liquid 20% how much alcohol 90% should i use to dilute to 10%? If you could help Please
You want to reduce the concentration 2 times lower, so you need to add the same amount of alcohol in grams. If you have 100g of 20% acid add another 100g of alcohol to get 200g of 10% acid
Can i use regular 90% alcohol?
Will it dissolve in Everclear? (90% alcohol). Also, I would think some PPE would be a good idea here....
Yes, it should and yes PPE is a great idea. It’s hard to show that on video because you can’t see or hear me but good point.
@@EssentialLabsOfficial Hah sorry but I figure you know what you are doing and for what reasons.. Just saying.
Can you add salicylic acid powder in a melt and pour soap recipe?
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At the end of Your video « allantoin winter facial serum » => why didn’t u show us how to test the Ph of the product and if need to lower/raise => show us how do to it ? It would be great
From where could i found hyaluronic acid i mean which shop it exist.
We sell high quality vegan hyaluronic acid powder on our website >> essentialwholesale.com/hyaluronic-acid-powder
Can you please tell me how to use lactic acid powder for making exafoliating serum for face ??
Lovely video, the only thing is dat it is not clear why the measurements for water, salicylic acid, sodium citrate are. It will help to say for example 1 g, 3 g, etc. But thanks for sharing.
Plz mention quantity in grams
do you still need to add sodium citrate if you dissolve using only the propylene glycol? will it not crystalize with just the propylene glycol and no sodium citrate? thanks
You should not need the sodium citrate at all, this is just an option for this particular formula.
Essential Wholesale & Labs hi thanks for getting back to me...I managed to dissolve it in propylene glycol without the citrate and I put it aside as a stick solution though when it came to adding it to my formula it crystallised again....I tried heating my formula before adding it too yet it still crystallised...it made no sense as to why the stock solution remains fine but when adding it to a formula it crystallises...have you any idea as to why this may be? Again thanks for taking the time to reply to me it’s much appreciated
@@somethingaboutnay6019 probably because (i assume) the rest of your formula has water. I that case you'll need to ad sodium citrate or sodium lactate, to prevent the crystal formation.
Carlos Guajardo At what point should the sodium lactate be added? I’m new and want to experiment this coming week. Cheers!
@@bellavidahana for example my formula is: glycerin 10%, propylen glycol 63.3%, sodium lactate 5%, water 19.7%, salicylic acid 2%. Although I'm still working on decreasing the propylene glycol and increasing the water and maybe the sodium lactate too, but I haven't had time to try a new formula. But the last time I tried, those percentages worked perfectly. And I mix then all at room temperature, first the SA with the PG, then SL, then Glycerin, when all that it's completely clear i add the water.
Owww. I truly love ur video...! I wish I can be around you every time when you are in the lab...so interesting ❤️. Thank you very much for your video! May I have the recipe of this video please!?
Thank you! Make sure to click "SHOW MORE" under the video where we've included the recipe.
Does hyaluronic acid normally re-precipitate in water? I dissolved hyaluronic acid in water and it turned into a satisfying thick gel for a couple of days, and then a layer of white goo appeared at the bottom of my potion, the water became fluid again. If I shake it well for a few minutes the solution becomes thickened, but then again it split into water and white matter at the bottom. Is this how hyaluronic acid behaves normally? Or I have bough some strange thing?
I have seen this occur with HA whenever the pH is too low. Did you check your final gel’s pH? Have you tried adjusting the pH once it becomes that fluid?
@@EssentialLabsOfficial Thanks. I'll look at it. I just dissolved it in water and didn't do any pH checking. I guess HA may have altered the pH itself.
Hello, please answer my question, Now the pH of salicylic acid is 2.4 does it mean it needs the products’ pH to be in this level so that it could be effective? If I raised the pH to 5.5 like our skin’s pH won’t it be effective?
Salicylic Acid is a Beta Hydroxy Acid and a larger molecule than Alpha Hydroxy Acids.
Unlike Alpha Hydroxy Acids, Salicylic Acid is able to perform effectively at a higher pH, and actually is better for the skin than a lower pH salicylic acid product.
Without getting too technical, the amount of free non-dissociate salicylic acid is not a factor in the efficacy of the salicylic acid.
In fact, the lower the pH of the solution of salicylic acid, the more likely you will experience skin irritation and barrier disruption.
Sources:
Bashir SJ, Dreher F, Chew AL, et al. Cutaneous bioassay of salicylic acid as a keratolytic. Int J Pharm. 2005;292(1-2):187-194.
Merinville, E., Byrne, A.J., Rawlings, A.V., Muggleton, A.J. and Laloeuf, A.C. (2010), Original Contribution: Three clinical studies showing the anti‐aging benefits of sodium salicylate in human skin. Journal of Cosmetic Dermatology, 9: 174-184.
@@EssentialLabsOfficial so what do you think is the ideal pH for salicylic acid products, 3 or 4 ?
and what do you mean by -the amount of free non-dissociate salicylic acid-?
Wow! Natural teacher! Thank you for such a clear explanation. Would salicylic acid dissolve in 96% alcohol? and also Can I make this with distilled water?
Hi there, great video! I dissolved 2% salicylic into 10% propylene glycol. I then mixed it into 88% warmed distilled water. A few seconds after I mixed the solution into the water it turned white and slightly coagulated. Can you please help fix this? I’m trying to make a 2% sprayable solution.
SA is not an easy ingredient to work with and can easily crash out of water. Before writing off what you’re doing however, have you checked the pH of the final product? Adjusting the pH might help thin it down. I would start there first.
Essential Wholesale & Labs thanks for your reply! The final product is 3.5 ph. I’ll try an adjuster on the next batch. I’ll also try deionized water. I’ll let you know if that changes anything.
Can i immerse green tea in methylated spirit 100 percent and after 1 week i want to strain my tincture. I want to add my mct oil in the tincture and let spirit to completly evaporate. Will that give me green tea infused mct oil?
You will have a hard time mixing oil and alcohol together. You might want to just immerse the green tea in the MCT and skip the alcohol altogether.
@@EssentialLabsOfficial please tell me how to dissolve kojicacid dipalmitate in mct oil. I dissolved it by heat but after sometime my oil became cloudy. In my country we have very few options plz i want to dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate in mct oil as i m prone to fungal acne. Your guidence will immensely help me.
1.you can tell me how to dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate in mct oil.
2.can i dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate in my propylene 3.
3. Glyceryl caprylate is a fungal acne safe ester can you tell me how to use it to make emulsions and cream . Due to my fungal acne i am unable to use cetyl alcohol and traditional polysorbates. Plz help me creating a cream base with fungal acne safe oils, emulsifiers and fatty alcohol. Currently i can use only water based gel.
Can i use capryl glycerate to dissolve kojic acid dipalmitate in mct oil
Is there any other ingredient that could replace the sodium citrate? Thanks.
I am pretty sure you can also use potassium citrate but I believe there are lots of alternatives besides those two.
Is it safe to mix 2 acids?
I mean, using hyaluronic and salicylic acid
Hyaluronic is a humectant
Do we need to preserve this formula? Thank you!
When water is present in ANY amount, preservatives are required. They’re non-optional because water = life!
Can CBD oil be added to this serum ?
Where do I buy pennilyn glycol (alternative to propylene glycol)?
Hi Jamila! I'm not sure about pennilyn glycol. Have you thought about propanediol? It is another alternative to propylene glycol.
We have a blog post explaining propanediol vs propylene glycol >> library.essentialwholesale.com/propylene-glycol-alternative-propanediol/
Unfortunately we aren't currently selling our stock of propanediol until we can get a stable supply. Check our website in a few months and it should be back in stock.
How can I dissolve malic acid for use in soap. And which phase of the soap making process do I acid the acid?
Is it ok to put pure liquid salicydic acid on my pimple?
Since that question is more about using SA as a drug, I cannot answer the question. It’s best to consult your dermatologist. Thank you.
Hi! Can you please tell me where you get all your packaging from?
Hi Drew! Check out this blog post. We recommend a few packaging suppliers at the bottom of the post.
library.essentialwholesale.com/creating-your-skicare-bill-of-material/
Does it have to be sodium citrate anhydrous? Or is sodium citrate dihydrate okay? Thanks so much
Edit: maybe I'm confusing this for sodium acetate...? Is all sodium citrate anhydrous..?
Yes. Sodium citrate or sodium citrate anhydrous. Same thing :)
@@quantumlooper9162 thank you!!
@@quantumlooper9162 I actually have some sodium lactate on hand (a 60% liquid solution).
Can I replace sodium acetate with this?
If so, how should I change the ratio to water?
I assume, since the lactate is a solution already, I'll have to cut water and add more sodium to end up proportional to the original recipe... But is S Lactate as effective as S Acetate..? Eg, do I have to add even more than that to keep SA dissolved?
@@ivymazzola1214 No. Sodium citrate is the salt from citric acid (from citrus fruits). Sodium lactate and sodium acetate are completely different salts and cannot be substituted for sodium citrate. Only sodium citrate will work in formulas for preventing re-crystallization - which is its purpose here.
@@quantumlooper9162 Ooh, okay! Thank you! Wow, so many sodiums in the world.. I even used the wrong name for your salt above... Where did I get acetate from 😅
This is very helpful info, thank you very much!
Propanediol as a solvent?
Well, it does work for this particular application. Perhaps solvent is the wrong term.
Can i just buy hyloronic acid serum and dissolve the salicylic powder in it?
Without knowing what is in your HA serum exactly, it’s hard to answer this. However, my first impression if it’s a basic HA serum, is that no, the Salicylic would not dissolve.
Can anyone tell me all the measurements in grams? Please
convert lbs to gram, the ammount is given already above.
Can you dissolve it in witch hazel?
Carol McEwin Unfortunately no.
Thank you
Only if the witch hazel has been extracted through one of the mediums that also dissolves salicylic acid. Witch hazel that we sell will not work as it is water based.