Why Was This Ancient Roman Man Buried On A Pile Of Meat | Digging For Britain

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
  • Alice and the team discover a series of intriguing Roman artefacts, including a bundle of coins in Somerset, and a man who was buried on a layer of dead animals. They also look into the mystery of 97 murdered babies.
    Odyssey is your journey into the world of Ancient History; from the dawn of Mesopotamia to the fall of Rome. We'll be bringing you only the best documentaries that journey into the mysteries and ruins of worlds long lost.
    Subscribe so you don't miss out!
    :european_castle: Discover the past on History Hit, with ad-free exclusive podcasts and documentaries released weekly and presented by world-renowned historians Dan Snow, Suzannah Lipscomb, Matt Lewis and more. Get 50% off your first 3 months with code 'ODYSSEY': historyhit.com/subscription
    Follow us on Facebook: / odysseyancienthistory
    Odyssey is part of the History Hit Network. For any queries, please contact owned-enquiries@littledotstudios.com

Komentáře • 101

  • @jamesdolan4042
    @jamesdolan4042 Před dnem +8

    I must give Alice Robets a lot of credit. She does not gloss over difficult subjects. In this episode she did an excellent and detailed inquiry into the deaths of the babies. excavated circa.1912 from a Roman villa.

  • @maryearll3359
    @maryearll3359 Před dnem +6

    The subject of the bones of 97 full term foetus' was very gently handled. So disturbing for all involved. Well done and thank you,🌹

  • @actoraa
    @actoraa Před 2 dny +10

    Beautiful. The documentary is good too.

  • @andrewlouis3475
    @andrewlouis3475 Před 2 dny +7

    Odyssey, your channel is a real discovery for me!! Thank you for content. 🙏

  • @jmc8265
    @jmc8265 Před 2 dny +17

    He loved his steak.

  • @alanwilkinson9487
    @alanwilkinson9487 Před 2 dny +2

    Love the vid... Many thanks..

  • @2012escapee1
    @2012escapee1 Před dnem +4

    The man buried face down could have been a sacrifice or an executed criminal. As for the 97 babies, an ancient abortion clinic?

  • @m.e.345
    @m.e.345 Před 2 dny +5

    'Super Size Me'.. 1st century AD edition. 😄

  • @Lokipoisonivi
    @Lokipoisonivi Před dnem +2

    Dr Alice is such a legend. I real influencer

  • @johnschmidt792
    @johnschmidt792 Před 2 dny +4

    I thought Egypt was the bread basket of the Roman empire not Britain.

    • @maryearll3359
      @maryearll3359 Před dnem +2

      Britain had, and still has, the rainfall and closer proximity to Europe. Egypt was too dry and too far away,

    • @MSjackiesaunders
      @MSjackiesaunders Před dnem +2

      Egypt didn't raise enough grain to support the Roman Empire. They barely raised enough for their own use (occasionally having to buy outside grain in bad years). The access to more fertile regions was a primary reason for Roman expansion. The steady rainfall in Britain and western France was essential for the well-being of Rome.

    • @MONTY-YTNOM
      @MONTY-YTNOM Před 12 hodinami +1

      Libya was

  • @Diogenes_43
    @Diogenes_43 Před dnem +4

    Why go with brothel and murdered babies instead of a midwife where many babies were born some died.

  • @canada_isa_carnival
    @canada_isa_carnival Před 2 dny +2

    short answer for the title is. WHY NOT . what else was there to do back then besides bury people in mounds of meat

  • @TheSchmuck01
    @TheSchmuck01 Před dnem +1

    Quick sidebar question about hypocaust systems, did they need to be swept and cleaned like modern chimneys? Did soot and resin build up till they ignited or did they send slaves under the floor to clean it out?

    • @Trebor74
      @Trebor74 Před dnem +1

      Probably be a young slaves job to clean the hypocaust in the summer when it wasn't used. Assuming any soot wouldn't make it up the wall vents. So they'd stay relatively clean.

  • @coreybecca4762
    @coreybecca4762 Před dnem

    They FORGOT the A1 sauce, so he’s in HELL!! 😂

  • @budd2nd
    @budd2nd Před 2 dny +1

    @30 surely these pits were just dug for food storage? First used for grain storage and then later for other food items. Why assert a ritual when it is far simpler to consider simple storage requirements?

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch Před 2 dny +7

    Alice is the ultimate woman. Heavens 🥵

  • @richieleeallen6667
    @richieleeallen6667 Před dnem +3

    I'm in Love with Dr. Alice

  • @edwardfindley8483
    @edwardfindley8483 Před dnem +1

    Actually Ron Swanson has the meat funeral in his will.

  • @aib0160
    @aib0160 Před dnem +1

    So if the hoard was an offering never meant to be recovered why bother with the pot? Just dig the hole and chuck the coins in.

    • @marianneb.7112
      @marianneb.7112 Před dnem

      Maybe to transport the coins to the burial spot?

    • @aib0160
      @aib0160 Před 23 hodinami

      @@marianneb.7112 They already said that the pot wasn't strong enough to hold all the coins. It needed to be buried up to its neck first and then filled.

    • @marianneb.7112
      @marianneb.7112 Před 21 hodinou

      @@aib0160 You're right. I heard that after I posted. It's curious, isn't it?

    • @aib0160
      @aib0160 Před 20 hodinami

      @@marianneb.7112 It is and the reality is we'll never know why it was buried, we can only speculate.

    • @marianneb.7112
      @marianneb.7112 Před 20 hodinami

      @@aib0160 True. It's fun to think about, though. Cheers!

  • @206stonner
    @206stonner Před 2 dny +1

    Why Was This Ancient Roman Man Buried On A Pile Of Meat!!!!!!! WHAT a title

    • @florenmage
      @florenmage Před 2 dny +2

      @@206stonner He was trying to raise the steaks. Unfortunately he ended up lowering them.😂😂😂😂

    • @georgevaughan1287
      @georgevaughan1287 Před dnem +1

      Especially when it’s not within the video

    • @billybatson8657
      @billybatson8657 Před dnem

      @@georgevaughan1287 I know, that really ticked me off! Nowhere in the video is there anything about a guy buried on top of steaks.

  • @juliuscaesar2792
    @juliuscaesar2792 Před dnem +3

    Alice is foxy

  • @grandam195
    @grandam195 Před 2 dny +1

    He probably was a glutton and choked on a too large piece of meat. So they buried him with the rest of his meal.

  • @Rosiedelaroux
    @Rosiedelaroux Před 21 hodinou

    Because they had run out of bread buns.

  • @DogSpeak
    @DogSpeak Před dnem +1

    Because heck yeah!

  • @dryciderz
    @dryciderz Před 2 dny +1

    Based

  • @jimferry6539
    @jimferry6539 Před dnem +2

    39:28, I disagree with his logic, if you were to store money today you wouldn’t put it in multiple safes you would just put it in one safe

  • @Prfdt3
    @Prfdt3 Před 23 hodinami

    It might signify that he had been beat to death.

  • @giovanni5063
    @giovanni5063 Před 2 dny +6

    Babies were an impediment to maintaining steady income for the women that made a living servicing the Gents that were stationed at the fort. There was no prohibition of fornication and, well, that's why you find that stuff because no problem with a baby expiring in those days.

    • @bwrs2bwrs1
      @bwrs2bwrs1 Před dnem +1

      It's an awful situation 😢

    • @MsMike651
      @MsMike651 Před dnem +1

      You’re Right,Egypt was but Britain also supplied corn.But the main things from there the Roman’s wanted were it LS base and precious metals.A lot of mining there.They supplied wool and cattle also.

  • @garyfrancis6193
    @garyfrancis6193 Před dnem

    I don’t have time to watch 50 min videos all day.

    • @dewardroy6531
      @dewardroy6531 Před 12 hodinami

      50 minutes is all day where you are?

  • @jimclarke1108
    @jimclarke1108 Před dnem

    🥰

  • @silliaek
    @silliaek Před 2 dny

    The romans spoke and wrote latin.

    • @lynnloww
      @lynnloww Před dnem

      Not alll… at all. Roman culture built themselves upon the Ancient Greek civilization, and they spoke Greek. So yeah.

    • @MsMike651
      @MsMike651 Před dnem

      Most aristocrats spoke Greek.

  • @bethlehemeisenhour8352

    I wouldn't like to think the babies were sacrificed for some false god.

  • @user-om8mz3ey6k
    @user-om8mz3ey6k Před 2 dny

    Why would the romans be worshipping a Turkish god?

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 Před 2 dny +5

      Probably because turkey was part of the empire and the guy who put it up was from there.

    • @HJJSL-bl8kk
      @HJJSL-bl8kk Před 2 dny +6

      Most Romans weren't from Rome or even what is now Italy. There were Roman citizens from each corner of the Roman Empire. You just had to buy into the whole idea of Rome, which didn't require ditching your own personal household deities.

    • @user-om8mz3ey6k
      @user-om8mz3ey6k Před 2 dny +2

      TY

    • @justsaynotoboomers
      @justsaynotoboomers Před dnem +2

      We only call it Turkey today. Greece and other empires had dominated there for some time, and later Rome.

    • @dewardroy6531
      @dewardroy6531 Před 12 hodinami

      They are noted for worshipping a Hebrew god, aren’t they? Why not a Turkish god as well?

  • @speakupriseup4549
    @speakupriseup4549 Před 2 dny +2

    With all the modern technology available for recording and photographing, hand drawing objects now seems regressive and redundant.

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 Před 2 dny +10

      Drawing gives you more details. Photos have shadows, glare.

    • @lynnloww
      @lynnloww Před dnem +3

      Uhhhh what’s wrong w drawing?? Even w all theee technologies we still go back to doing some things the same way the ancients had done them. You sound redundant

    • @funstuff2006
      @funstuff2006 Před dnem +1

      ​@@lynnlowwNah, just a garden variety, pretentious, technocentrist who thinks if it's not "cutting edge" it should be discarded.

  • @ljmrecords2564
    @ljmrecords2564 Před 2 dny +2

    If this beautiful presenter was around in the roman times they would have made her a princess. . . ❤

  • @stevedavy2878
    @stevedavy2878 Před 2 dny +3

    I totally disagree with the theories of the expert talking about the coin hord. I found him patronising and opinionated. The point of all archeology is to always have an open mind. He could not possible know , if the hoard was not hidden in a hurry by local people, to avoid having their savings taken. Putting it all in one pot may have been an act carried out in haste to get the coins well hidden. People do not act rationally or organised in imminant danger. Getting a bit sick of hearing about every burried coin is a votive offering. Seems to be a bog standard archeologists theory.

    • @Tempest1984
      @Tempest1984 Před dnem +3

      "In a hurry" doesn't really make sense, though. It would be much quicker if multiple people dug small pits for small containers, instead of one or two people digging one huge pit to bury one huge container while only being able to fill it after it was set in the ground. Apparently, there were not settlements in the vicinity, so it seems much more like a planned undertaking, not something done in the face of danger or in a rush.
      Of course, archeologists can't "know", but they can give a most likely scenario after studying the finds in their context and also having studied many, many finds before for literally half of their lives.

    • @stevedavy2878
      @stevedavy2878 Před dnem

      @@Tempest1984 How do you know that the one large container was not already sunk into the ground, and used for some other communal purpose. Im willing to accept the other possibilities. What I was pointing to was the overwhealming certainty of this " expert" that he was right about something that happened 2000 years ago.

    • @Tempest1984
      @Tempest1984 Před dnem +1

      ​@@stevedavy2878 When studying the past you must come to terms with the fact that you might never "know" something, but as expert in the field it is very much possible to interpret finds with certainty, working with things that we do infact know, things are common, things that we learn from context, things that are practical or reasonable etc.
      I don't know that this wasn't a "community jar", but it is unlikely. As there were no settlements in the vicinity, it makes a "communal storage jar" improbable. Also, the wall thickness of the jar doesn't really speak for a vessel that's supposed to withstand a lot of pressure from the outside, which would occur if it was buried in the ground with people stepping near it to put things in or take them out. Known instances of communal storage are also very different in shape, size and accessability. Of course, you could conjour up any number of possible reasons for a big jar filled with coins being buried, or the jar being there in the first place, but none of them really make a lot of sense, mostly for practical reasons, some of which were explained in the video. I know for a fact that they looked into the explanation you suggested.
      You must understand that the theory for the jar to be votive is nothing they come up with on a lazy afternoon, nor is it something that wouldn't go undisputed in peer review if there were more likely explanations. This expert isn't the only one who did research on the hoard. Interpretations like this come with a lot of research and a lot of experience of multiple experts in the field, but obviously there is no time to illustrate all of that in a 50min show. There is a chapter about it in "The Frome Hoard. How a massive find changes everything", you can find the article as a pdf just by googling it, maybe it'll shed some light for you.
      What I find strange though is you putting "expert" in quotation marks, though. Do you have any reason to argue his qualifications? Do you think you're better qualified? He is the national finds adviser for Iron Age and Roman coins at The British Museum, and has authored a bunch of papers on those topics. You called him patronising and opinionated, and followed up by calling his expertise into question. I find that to be quite condescending and it doesn't sit right with me, but you do you. You should know that with a find of that importance, they wouldn't just put some bodger on the job and call it a day.

    • @billythedog-309
      @billythedog-309 Před dnem

      Thank God, these archeologists have you to call on to put them right.

    • @stevedavy2878
      @stevedavy2878 Před dnem

      @@billythedog-309 I love cthe way sarcastic condescending people always highlight their replies he he he

  • @troygoggans5495
    @troygoggans5495 Před dnem

    It looks as if the Romans were no different from today with baby humans sacrificed for convenience.

    • @yannfoucher7277
      @yannfoucher7277 Před dnem +2

      Except that during Romans time the babies were born after nine months. Abortion is completely different and happens after a maximum of 24 weeks in UK about 5 months so it's still a foetus. There no "convenience" in abortion. Don't judge when you don't know.

    • @MsMike651
      @MsMike651 Před dnem +3

      I don’t know how they call them killings when they don’t know how they died.The infant mortality rates were very high in those days and if it was a brothel it could easily explain 97 infants.Romans abhorred human sacrifice except for a few drastic situations and a child was a new slave so I don’t think they just killed babies.Exposure was a thing back then if a baby was sickly or deformed so I think maybe it had to do with that.

  • @NothingToNoOneInParticular

    Coin hoard? I'm so poor, if I ever found one, I'd excavate, melt and refine for silver. No qualms.

    • @Tempest1984
      @Tempest1984 Před dnem +1

      In the UK, under the Treasure Act, the money from the coins goes to the finder and landowner. In this case, a museum bought the hoard for £320,250. I'm guessing that "melting and refining for silver" wouldn't fetch nearly as much, plus you'd destroy a piece of history in the process. No qualms, eh?

    • @axhed
      @axhed Před dnem

      i think i figured out why you're so poor, brother.

  • @RobertGoodin
    @RobertGoodin Před 2 dny

    Wonder what she is refering to when she suggests we know alot about the romans because they wrote things down.... the reality is practically nothing survived from the Romans.

    • @lenabreijer1311
      @lenabreijer1311 Před 2 dny +9

      In vindolanda you have writing tablets that were found. Birthday party invitations, requests for vacations, beer, thanks for underwear sent by relatives...

  • @donaldk.macbaird5248

    The Baby's death sounds like Satanic Ritual killings.

  • @florenmage
    @florenmage Před 2 dny +1

    The throwing out of babies is a tragic and horrible practice.
    Anyone with even basic morality can see this.
    There is however a kind of person who will just blame free sexual expression for this.
    This is not the solution.
    If you really care about saving the lives of infants you will support the funding of institutions designed to care for and educate these children.
    That is the true solution to this problem.
    This is just what happens when the government is unconcerned with the welfare of the common people.

  • @user-lm7we7xb4g
    @user-lm7we7xb4g Před dnem

    Seasoning...