Don't you love assholes that gate keep good stuff from people who wanna try it. Yeah, make the people who like the thing look bad by treating newcomers as a brain dead idiots for not playing exactly like you on your 100th playthrough.
What's really cool about that radio gibberish where you hear a woman's voice is that, if you heard all of it without cutting out, it would spoil the whole game.
Pretty sure he will. The game railroads you to the good ending on the first playthrough, IIRC. Though, knowing Vin's fascination with certain subjects, he'd be very interested in one of the special secret endings...
@@SwordfighterRed absolutely not. I got the "bad" end the first time I played it, after obsessively checking the knife, thinking I could use it somewhere, and also running around with low health because I would only heal when a fight was upon me to conserve items.
@@ChargeQM Hmmm. I was double-checking myself about that the other day, but it looks like, more or less, that you still have to go out of your way to do that kind of thing to get a different ending. Or maybe that was changed between original and Greatest Hits? I'unno. It won't really matter, there's not a super canonical ending anyhow.
@@memestealer2561 the SH2 good ending is achieved by keeping your health green and frequently looking at Mary's photo. The bad ending is achieved by keeping your health red and looking at Angela's knife. There is also a third Maria ending that is accomplished by spending a lot of time with Maria.
People, you can like Silent Hill 2 and still laugh at the hokey cutscenes. I mean, personally I like the uncanny valley it creates because it's both creepy and pretty funny. If you don't laugh at the pizza scene I'm convinced you don't have a soul.
I agree, and it's a little Lynchian like Vinny said too. Kinda like the game Deadly Premonition, you're going to laugh at some of it, and later think about it more seriously.
A lot of people online don't understand how sometimes things fall into place nicely without being planned. So, they make up this myth that the stilted voice acting (in every case except Horgan as Mary/Maria and a few places with Burke as Angela) and the clunky script were somehow part of a master plan, when the truth is, they worked because they happened to mesh with a particular, and well-executed, dream-like atmosphere.
Sure, but I think most people prefer no talking during the cutscenes because they want to hear the cutscene without the immersion being broken by someone talking or joking.
@@ville666sora Fair enough but if I wanted immersion I'd just play the game myself since it runs well on even low spec PC's or I'd just watch a silent playthrough (didn't mean to do that) I just come here for Vinny's commentary so I don't mind hearing him react, but I guess I could see why some people would be bothered
I don't really find SH2 to be scary, but more like, emotionally draining. Seeing the mentally disturbed characters, especially Angela, hits home really hard.
Silent Hill 2's strength is never quite the obvious horrors. It's the more subtle things. It's the deep sense of despair and dread that permeates all throughout the game. And, for reasons that become obvious later, there's also an overpowering _sadness_ to it all.
Yeah, and I honestly adore how unique it feels. It's the only horror game I've played that left me feeling so 'exhausted'. It's all in the subtlety and emotion. Seeing the mirror scene with Angela, for example, is so true to how people dealing with emotional trauma and depression is. All without being up in ones face about it.
Exactly. It's one of my favorite games not because of the horror, but because of the experience. The sensations it brings up, the emotional journey, it's so nostalgic and unforgettable. This game is raw.
For me it's a sense of loneliness. Silent Hill 3 feels much more outright scary with its higher monster density, while Silent Hill 2 just has you soaking in the feeling of isolation.
This was an exceptionally satisfying and amusing stream to watch, seeing Vinny fit in his humour and opinion during the cutscenes pissing off some people in chat, him learning combat and exploration while in town, clumsily missing the first sighting of Pyramid Head, swiftly solving the puzzles and notably showing his engagement with the game overall. I had been waiting for months since Vinny mentioned he'd stream this and i'm relieved it happened earlier, i look forward to see him progress and delve deeper into it as this is one of the best games of all time for a reason : )
@@laziestoldman "Silent Marine" sounds like a side scrolling rogue like where you play as a lone cartoony space marine raiding abandoned ships for supplies. Pixel graphics of course.
@@HardDiskDog As an artist I 100% agree. Trying to build sprites is much, much easier if it's all on a grid and looks 2 dimensional by default (i.e. Pixel art)
Not surprised by chat acting holier than thou about this game, and this is one of my favorite games of all time too. BUT people really gotta grow up and realize not everyone is going to enjoy or experience a piece of media the same way they do (especially on a first playthrough). Keep doing you, Vin.
People take their experience of media so damn personally it's frustrating sometimes. It's why so many people can't handle even mild critique of what they enjoy, why they can't separate what they enjoy from enduring quality of a work, why they react with such knee-jerk rage to anything that suggests they should interrogate context or subtext. It's depressing because they're depriving themselves of so much that way.
@@MegaZeta These people are overidentified with something that someone else created, which is a hilarious and sad concept and is precisely what the "nerd" stereotype points fun at. Enjoying something does not require you to identify with it.
Silent Hill 2 isn't really 'scary' in the traditional sense. It'd be more accurate to call it 'unsettling'. With that in mind it's aged absolutely fantastically; the audio design and soundtrack are both spot-on.
it's unsettling, disturbing, to me that's truly scary. Jump scares are not scary, they just spike your adrenaline, just like a thriller movie. I prefer stuff like this, Twin Peaks and the rest of Lynches work does the same thing exceptionally well but makes it even more scary I think because of the extreme contrast between innocent naive characters and the disturbing, weird dark things that happen on the side. It's like a mood that you can get in to, and stay for a long time.
I wonder what the average age of Vinnys viewers are. It's not everyday you see a video of SH2 where the guy has to explain for minutes why it looks "Ugly".
I'd suppose it would really depend on what kind of poll it is. A lot more people would click on a strawpoll than a twitter poll because kids would need to make an account for the latter.
Fun fact, did you know, that Kirby and Silent Hill share a design element. The health drink item in Silent Hill and the Energy Drink in Kirby are both based off of energy drinks popular in japan
Vinny can take the series as seriously or as non-seriously as he wishes. While getting immersed in the story and feel is good old existential fun it's still a game and it can still be taken apart to it's basic elements ie; voice acting, gameplay, direction ect. Vinny making jokes here and there does not mean he's not enjoying the game, though.
Why does no one on the Internet understand what "existential" means? Why do people online just toss that word into a sentence when they want to sound vaguely intellectual? It makes you look like a pretentious asshole.
I've been waiting for this since last October. Super excited to finally see Vinny play through this masterpiece. I hope that the chat and memes won't ruin this experience for him, and that he'll eventually play 1, 3 and 4... Though I know he'd just be doing Tommy Wiseau impressions throughout The Room.
i fell asleep a bunch of times while trying to watch this and it kept playing. vinny’s commentary about shaggy 2 dope dropkicking fred durst appeared in my dream unchanged and i completely dismissed it as weird dream nonsense until i got to that part again and vinny repeated exactly what i heard in my dream.
The best horror game ever made. No horror game has ever scared me, or stuck with me like Silent Hill 2 has. I still get scared by it today. No other horror really scares me. Im very pleased that vinny is playing it.
Maybe it hasn't aged the best in a lot of ways, but the fact I can go back to anything Silent Hill 2 related and still feel the overall discomfort it made me feel when I first played is probably a testament to how well it was done.
@@SwordfighterRed it aged great only thing people would complain about today is graphics, sound design is still very very good and story telling, the voice acting is suppose to sound like this james sounds out of it emotionally
@@SwordfighterRedI really hate the "it aged" argument or whatever in video games.. like DUH, time passes, things get older and technology develops. I really think people should seriously stop with that. It's kinda weird. It aged fine anyhow. 3 did as well. But yeah it still evokes the same feelings even 2 decades later.
First off, hell yeah, and second off, getting this game to run on windows 10 is a nightmare. It's 5 CDS, needs a cracked exe to not require a CD in the drive to play, needs a directx fix because every game before directx 9 breaks now, requires mods to be able to play in windowed mode, requires mods to fix the lighting and shadows, requires mods to get the fog to work correctly, requires mods to run in widescreen (despite having widescreen settings in the menu?), and this is no longer a problem, but last time I set it up you needed to disable hardware acceleration or else audio just wouldn't work. Worst part is this is all just lack of backwards compatibility. If you have a Windows XP machine the game runs natively with no issues.
I hope the SH fans at twitch don't remain too salty throughout this playthrough, but you gotta understand a lot of them had a hammer taken to their scrotum by Konami at this point so they're fucking RAVENOUS. Glad to see you're enjoying this so far, but one thing you might want to keep in mind is the big parts of the game are gonna be indoors like the apartments rather than outside. I know the apartments drag because of that but they do manage to keep it interesting later.
They're mad because the games aged like shit, Konami farmed many of the games to different studios, and then killed the only interesting project to happen with the IP because pachinko.
Vinny baffles me sometimes. One minute he's running in circles in an empty room watching the paint dry, the next he's rolling around at the speed of sound ignoring everything in his path, including one of the most memorable moments of the game. Don't get me wrong, I'm loving this playthrough, but for some reason that one moment just really rustled my jimmies
Yeah, I understand what you mean... that's games for you though. Since the player has control of the perspective most of the time in most games, it's inevitable to miss things. Well that's the beauty of second playthroughs I suppose.
Actually, Vin's being relatively respectful of the cutscenes. It's cool to make jokes and talk about them after but being quiet and LISTENING to them is super important imo.
The voice acting isn't bad so you don't need to use the "It's a PS2 game" excuse. SH2's cast were specifically picked to sound like real people and not like video game voice actors and a lot of their quirks and speech pattern are intentionally and extremely deliberate, can't say why without spoiling it but it makes sense by the end of the game.
Really? It has the opposite effect. They sound incredibly fake and uncanny. It seems like one of those bad horror B movies, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Dead Rising had the same shtick.
There are issues with the script (ie the translation of the script into english, such as the infamous "How can you sit there and eat pizza!" line) for sure but I think people get the "fake and uncanny/badly acted" impression because people are so used to what video game voicing acting sounds like. Usually you either have the TV/Theatre style, more common nowadays where they mo-cap and record dialog at the same time, or the more anime/dub style which is someone in a recording booth, that's overly expressive to make up for animation, that's where you tend to hear grunts and noises when people are suppose to emote. Silent Hill 2 and 3/4 to some extent, cast actors who they felt were the characters, to the point their character models are based off the actors and they did all the mo-capping and weren't directed to "act" their dialog and scenes. I'll admit it's jarring at first, because you don't see a lot of voice acting done to this depth. James's voice for example, is suppose to convey he's emotionally distanced himself from his reality and feelings, Angela is suppose to convey her trauma (details would be spoilers) and how uncomfortable she is socially. She's also physically aged beyond her years and is infact 16 or under, which is why some of her dialog sounds childish. There's more details I could do into with James, Angela and the other characters but it would spoil everything, but after Vinny's done playing, it's highly recommended to look up the "Making of Silent Hill 2" which goes super deep into the symbolism, design of characters (like Angela's being aged) and all that stuff or heck, even play the game for yourself, a lot of the dialog and scenes make sense more once you have the full context of the story. If you want fake, hokey B horror voice acting, that's Resident Evil, or Silent Hill 1, if you compares those to this game you'll hear the different in that style of recording. Or look up the new voices in the Silent Hill HD collection where they dubbed it like anime and removed all the subtlety and subtext behind all the dialog and delivery, Twin Perfect did a 2 part video of how fucked the HD collection is but part 2 goes into the new voices specifically and how they are objectively worse.
I can understand why people feel that way and the dialog isn't perfect my any means, some scenes are worse then others and the first exchange between James and Angela is super jarring without the full context of who those characters are. I'm fine with a lot of it being to taste, if you're someone who say, enjoys MGS voice acting the most (not to knock MGS I love those games) and that's the kind of acting you want, then yeah Silent Hill 2-3 voice acting sounds off by comparison, I guess the main thing to ask if to give it a chance and not assume it's bad for the start and see how you feel by the end of the game.
Hmm I can see what they were going for but it didn't work out if it was supposed to sound like real people. The voice direction is pretty bad just going off what I've seen here. If it makes sense later though I'm open to it
I was passively watching the stream and enjoying myself until Vinny yelled "JAMIE" Thats my name and for a short moment I jumped and got freaked out. Spooptober indeed
Silent Hill 2 is completely separate from the others, but 1 and 3 are directly related while 4 kinda requires knowledge about the first game to make total sense.
@@Havokwreakeryeah...yeahhhhh. kinda sucks being in a Fandom sometimes when you have to try and explain you're not like the others. 🥲 this game series means a LOT to me too but I definitely wouldn't ruin somebody else's ability to experience or enjoy it by taking THEIR run so seriously FOR them. That's just sad af..
Eh. SH2 isn't _that_ stingy with health items, in my experience, and as thorough as Vinny's being, he's probably not going to go wanting. On the other hand, his incessant need to murder all the horrors he sees will probably offset that. It'll be interesting to see.
Yeah, and I don't want to spoil anything for anyone else here, but the next indoor area could lead to some inventory issues. I'm not trying to sound condescending to his game play, since it is his first time, but it won't be great for anyone if he runs out of ammo and health drinks. Maybe someone could hint that fighting is optional in most cases.
I'm sure he'll be fine. The whole inventory softlock debacle to the point of having to acquire a save to proceed in Cry of Fear would've probably gave him some ideas on how not to screw up item management.
@@KnightofDarkSorrow this game is designed to let you know how the combat works and how gunfire is just to drop them and finishing them a la Isaac Clarke. Hell the first encounter is all about teaching the slow combat. If Vinny didn't catch it he has issues
I hope with my whole heart Vinny likes this and he can proceed directly to 4, since it has continuities from 2 he can catch some cameos and because 4 is still legit horrific and legit hilarious.
some times it's easy to miss things like certain scares and stuff, like just before he entered the room with the body in front of the tv. i'd say he should just play it and have a little fun with it at his own pace. i think maybe the silent hill games are games you have to play a couple times really to soak up all the details and stuff
you are mostly correct, nebbys, but there's always a few guys who are gonna be like (spoilers) (seriously don't read this vin) "look at the knife" or "look at the photo" or do this or don't do that, i've noticed a particular favoritism for the 'in water' ending in the fanbase
Man I'm glad the Enhanced Edition is literally just an installer these days. It's come so far lmao, if anyone's reading this who's interested in playing it, check it out!
"Voice acting's shit" - said by a chat member. Ah yes, I always love to hear more insane people giving opinions. Gives me so much hope for the future of humanity.
Really enjoyed the first part of this (first thing I've been too impatient to wait a day for the full sauce, watched the vod on twitch), really good start. ^^ Glad Vinny's first impression of the game is good too.
I like how he reaches for the key with just his arm and goes "damn too far away" when he literally has a long sticklike object he could use to pull the key towards him
I played this years ago and LOVED it. I've tried to play a couple others since then and they didn't seem nearly as good as this. I was really drawn into the world. Was only sad I didn't get answers I wanted.
1, 2, 3, and 4 all enjoy leaving some things up to imagination/interpretation. 3 is personally my favourite, it's all a matter of what struck a chord with you the most and sucked you in.
This is my first time watching a playthrough of this game, and honest to god I know what people mean with how the voice acting adds to it. The part where the woman almost stabbed James was really good, they both sound drugged and off and our of it. That mixed with the "What? what did you say?" type dialogue, fucking awesome lol Like the town their in literally makes their minds fogged and fuzzy
The voice actor (if I recall right) for James (Guy Cihi), mentioned that they had no context or preview when recording lines for Silent Hill 2. I think Guy said that years later he saw what Silent Hill 2 looked like for the first time.
lasarousi oh no, how dare he. A voice actor doing his job? What a piece of shit. Unforgivable. He should have done it for the passion and not for the money, because that’s what having a job is.
I played 2 then 3 after and I think that was a mistake because there's references and continuation from the first game that I missed. It's better if you go in game order of 2, 1 then 3
Me: Oh, nice! One of my favorite streamers is going to play my favorite game. I hope he enjoys the story and gets involved wi- Binyot: Did I just skip a cutscene trying to pause the game?
![[Vinesauce] Vinny - Silent Hill 2 (part 2)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wisZxDEjz9g/mqdefault.jpg)
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[Vin's playing SH2]
"Oh boy!"
[15 minutes in, and Vin's already lecturing chat on backseating]
"Oh no."
eldritchcat kk,
no, Vinny, listen, you cant have fun and enjoy the game, you have to play it EXACTLY HOW I PLAY IT or else you just don't, you're not allowed.
Don't you love assholes that gate keep good stuff from people who wanna try it. Yeah, make the people who like the thing look bad by treating newcomers as a brain dead idiots for not playing exactly like you on your 100th playthrough.
I can't believe this guy won't play the game the way I like, i can't fucking stand it
What's really cool about that radio gibberish where you hear a woman's voice is that, if you heard all of it without cutting out, it would spoil the whole game.
Charge yeah you can clearly hear what she says if you listen
@@placeholder4218 not clearly at all but you can make out the beginnings and ends of words
It’s actually incredibly obvious once you know the twist. They were _really_ pushing it with that one.
@@BareBandSubscription yeah it actually was accidentally spoiled in the prototype subtitles
ha ha this my psychological hell. I love it here!
oh hai autumn
@@TheManBehindTheShell You're our favorite viewer!
oh hai tommy
Oh hi mark
Someone screenshotted this on tumblr out of context and it's so weird seeing the original context after all these years
This hill isn't even remotely silent. 1/10
I know right, its just like that Call Of Duty Ghosts game, its didn't have any ghosts!1!!11!
Quiet Hill, sssshhhh
Mildly loud mound.
@@queeniethequeenbee3701 very loud flat terrain
*extremely loud monster screeches*
He first looks at Mary's photo, then he accidentally uses a health kit.
I think he's gonna get a good ending, guys.
Pretty sure he will. The game railroads you to the good ending on the first playthrough, IIRC.
Though, knowing Vin's fascination with certain subjects, he'd be very interested in one of the special secret endings...
@@SwordfighterRed absolutely not. I got the "bad" end the first time I played it, after obsessively checking the knife, thinking I could use it somewhere, and also running around with low health because I would only heal when a fight was upon me to conserve items.
@@ChargeQM Hmmm. I was double-checking myself about that the other day, but it looks like, more or less, that you still have to go out of your way to do that kind of thing to get a different ending. Or maybe that was changed between original and Greatest Hits? I'unno.
It won't really matter, there's not a super canonical ending anyhow.
@@memestealer2561 the SH2 good ending is achieved by keeping your health green and frequently looking at Mary's photo. The bad ending is achieved by keeping your health red and looking at Angela's knife. There is also a third Maria ending that is accomplished by spending a lot of time with Maria.
@@memestealer2561 just use an @ next time, sheesh.
People, you can like Silent Hill 2 and still laugh at the hokey cutscenes. I mean, personally I like the uncanny valley it creates because it's both creepy and pretty funny. If you don't laugh at the pizza scene I'm convinced you don't have a soul.
I agree, and it's a little Lynchian like Vinny said too. Kinda like the game Deadly Premonition, you're going to laugh at some of it, and later think about it more seriously.
A lot of people online don't understand how sometimes things fall into place nicely without being planned. So, they make up this myth that the stilted voice acting (in every case except Horgan as Mary/Maria and a few places with Burke as Angela) and the clunky script were somehow part of a master plan, when the truth is, they worked because they happened to mesh with a particular, and well-executed, dream-like atmosphere.
I dont have a soul
Is not a myth
It’s fine to laugh at the cutscenes Vinny, there’s still plenty of scenes I crackup at. Especially the “Pizza scene”
Hazard Rider “This town is full of monsters! How can you sit there and eat pizza!?”
Literally the only thing the HD Collection fixed. And by fixed, I mean made even more hilarious
@Guntapotamus McGunterson ofcourse
Sure, but I think most people prefer no talking during the cutscenes because they want to hear the cutscene without the immersion being broken by someone talking or joking.
@@ville666sora Fair enough but if I wanted immersion I'd just play the game myself since it runs well on even low spec PC's or I'd just watch a silent playthrough (didn't mean to do that) I just come here for Vinny's commentary so I don't mind hearing him react, but I guess I could see why some people would be bothered
I don't really find SH2 to be scary, but more like, emotionally draining. Seeing the mentally disturbed characters, especially Angela, hits home really hard.
Silent Hill 2's strength is never quite the obvious horrors. It's the more subtle things. It's the deep sense of despair and dread that permeates all throughout the game. And, for reasons that become obvious later, there's also an overpowering _sadness_ to it all.
Yeah, and I honestly adore how unique it feels. It's the only horror game I've played that left me feeling so 'exhausted'. It's all in the subtlety and emotion. Seeing the mirror scene with Angela, for example, is so true to how people dealing with emotional trauma and depression is. All without being up in ones face about it.
Real shit, I might have cried a little bit when L0rdVega finished the game.
Exactly. It's one of my favorite games not because of the horror, but because of the experience. The sensations it brings up, the emotional journey, it's so nostalgic and unforgettable. This game is raw.
For me it's a sense of loneliness. Silent Hill 3 feels much more outright scary with its higher monster density, while Silent Hill 2 just has you soaking in the feeling of isolation.
I'm glad this stream displays Vinny's ability to get lost while walking in a straight line
Don't we all?
This was an exceptionally satisfying and amusing stream to watch, seeing Vinny fit in his humour and opinion during the cutscenes pissing off some people in chat, him learning combat and exploration while in town, clumsily missing the first sighting of Pyramid Head, swiftly solving the puzzles and notably showing his engagement with the game overall.
I had been waiting for months since Vinny mentioned he'd stream this and i'm relieved it happened earlier, i look forward to see him progress and delve deeper into it as this is one of the best games of all time for a reason : )
Happy annual Halloween tradition of watching Vinny play SH2, everyone.
It’s legitimately one of the only things I enjoy watching while depressed. It’s just so cozy to me.
@@neverpass04 feel ya
Back early. Couldn't resist.
I’m back again. Halp 👍
Every October I tend to binge all his silent hill playthroughs
This town is FULL of monsters! How can you sit there and eat PIZZA
PIZZA TIME IS ANY TIME!
Specifically looked for this meme in the comments.
I wonder what silent hill pizza taste like?
@@ImmaLittlePip Burnt little girl and suppressed sexuality apparently
How did he got pizza even?
My name : John Hill
My mission : Silent Hill
"You are John Hill, Silent Marine."
My name: JAMS BORT
@@laziestoldman "Silent Marine" sounds like a side scrolling rogue like where you play as a lone cartoony space marine raiding abandoned ships for supplies. Pixel graphics of course.
+JasRabbit I think the reason for the retro trend is that it's a million times easier to draw
@@HardDiskDog As an artist I 100% agree. Trying to build sprites is much, much easier if it's all on a grid and looks 2 dimensional by default (i.e. Pixel art)
"I'm into the weird creatures". Finally, a streamer I can relate to!
And that timing, too!
@Badolf Pittler mara?
Wonder if he'll run into a shiny...
"Im into the weird creatures- never mind thats an orgy"
Finally, a Twitch streamer for me!
Not surprised by chat acting holier than thou about this game, and this is one of my favorite games of all time too. BUT people really gotta grow up and realize not everyone is going to enjoy or experience a piece of media the same way they do (especially on a first playthrough). Keep doing you, Vin.
People take their experience of media so damn personally it's frustrating sometimes. It's why so many people can't handle even mild critique of what they enjoy, why they can't separate what they enjoy from enduring quality of a work, why they react with such knee-jerk rage to anything that suggests they should interrogate context or subtext. It's depressing because they're depriving themselves of so much that way.
@@MegaZeta These people are overidentified with something that someone else created, which is a hilarious and sad concept and is precisely what the "nerd" stereotype points fun at.
Enjoying something does not require you to identify with it.
When people bitch about the game you play and how you play them... thats why i dont stream...
@@tomasosangmuir754 that concept is not exclusive to nerds, just take a look at sports team fans and fans of many music artists
@@mayzerify5525 those are nerds
In my restless dream I see that stream
Silent hill
ImmaLittlePip but you never caught it live....
@@MagickGOATee You promised you would someday
@@ShadowWolf936
Well I'm live there now waiting for Vinny in our special stream
Vinny solving the coin puzzle so easily is the most impressive thing he's done in a game. It took the Runbutton guys 25 minutes to solve that.
Also beating Father Owl after like 4 tries in Sekiro. That shit was hot af
I probably took the longest, because I couldn't find Angela's Room and I didn't have the map.
Silent Hill 2 isn't really 'scary' in the traditional sense. It'd be more accurate to call it 'unsettling'.
With that in mind it's aged absolutely fantastically; the audio design and soundtrack are both spot-on.
It is scary and it doesn't have overused jumpscare tactics.
it's unsettling, disturbing, to me that's truly scary. Jump scares are not scary, they just spike your adrenaline, just like a thriller movie. I prefer stuff like this, Twin Peaks and the rest of Lynches work does the same thing exceptionally well but makes it even more scary I think because of the extreme contrast between innocent naive characters and the disturbing, weird dark things that happen on the side. It's like a mood that you can get in to, and stay for a long time.
True. It has the atmosphere. Since scarred don't work on me. But this game surely gives me the creeps. Never could finish it cuz of that haha.
"Silent hill is the friends we made along the way"
I was eating and thinking that same thing ,then he say it and almost choked
Congratulations for thinking solely in terms of things other people wrote on the Internet
I wonder what the average age of Vinnys viewers are. It's not everyday you see a video of SH2 where the guy has to explain for minutes why it looks "Ugly".
He said himself that a poll of the fanbase put it at 23, because of course early 20s is just basically teenages 2: the teenaging
I'd suppose it would really depend on what kind of poll it is. A lot more people would click on a strawpoll than a twitter poll because kids would need to make an account for the latter.
@meme stealer, It doesn't since I'm 25 and played this when i was 11
Im assuming probably teenagers to lower twenties is the majority. Im 17 myself ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22, so I fit right in
Fun fact, did you know, that Kirby and Silent Hill share a design element. The health drink item in Silent Hill and the Energy Drink in Kirby are both based off of energy drinks popular in japan
I was so looking forward to his reaction to Pyramid Head behind the bars, then he just missed it completely.
exactly
That's Vinny!
And Vinny wants game's stories to be subtle
Tbh I did that too
@@outerfun5310 Not quite what people mean by subtle storytelling?
Vinny can take the series as seriously or as non-seriously as he wishes. While getting immersed in the story and feel is good old existential fun it's still a game and it can still be taken apart to it's basic elements ie; voice acting, gameplay, direction ect. Vinny making jokes here and there does not mean he's not enjoying the game, though.
Why does no one on the Internet understand what "existential" means? Why do people online just toss that word into a sentence when they want to sound vaguely intellectual? It makes you look like a pretentious asshole.
vinny talking about the high school nightmare being his guilt is SO fucking meta during this gameplay
Doesn't matter what controls you use or how you play, just grateful you are playing my favourite game of all time!
Hoops Barkly?, is that you?
@@sirjacktheplebmaster3753 Yes, actually my twitch name too lol.
I can't get over how good Silent Hill 2's OST is...
Me too, those synths are so good, so atmospheric...
"Vinny stop making jokes and laughing at the game. Y'know, the two things that are basically your job"
Or maybe people don't want him to treat every game like part of a shitty Sunday compilation, especially not beloved and well-understood cult classics.
@@laziestoldman I don't think he should have to try be super careful not to annoy people regardless of how popular the game is
If you get pissed of at that you could just play the game yourself
likek i get what youre going for, but theres some shit in this game that you REALLY dont wanna accidentally make into a joke.
I think they just meant during the cutscenes
The voice acting is fine. I mean, how the hell do you act “naturally” in these circumstances?
You need to hire Troy Baker to do a generic action man voice for it to be natural.
Yeah, action man voice!
You can if you were a normal stable person.
@@touchingisjustthefirststep Good thing nothing about these people are "natural"
The voice acting is not fine. It's terrible.
I love how if you pay attention, the radio spoils you the whole game
Yeah, it's obvious in hindsight, but going in blind you don't really hear it and then you eventually forget about it long before it becomes relevant.
I've been waiting for this since last October. Super excited to finally see Vinny play through this masterpiece. I hope that the chat and memes won't ruin this experience for him, and that he'll eventually play 1, 3 and 4... Though I know he'd just be doing Tommy Wiseau impressions throughout The Room.
Time to watch this playthrough for like the 1000th time
Can't believe he wanted to lubricate the trash with canned juice.
And he fucking _succeeded._
*ABSOLUTE. MADLAD.*
ever since vinny started playing this game james has been legally renamed jamie
i fell asleep a bunch of times while trying to watch this and it kept playing. vinny’s
commentary about shaggy 2 dope dropkicking fred durst appeared in my dream unchanged and i completely dismissed it as weird dream nonsense until i got to that part again and vinny repeated exactly what i heard in my dream.
There was a stream here. It's gone now.
is this literally the real somescrub lmao
Yes
Whomst is Somescrub?
The best horror game ever made. No horror game has ever scared me, or stuck with me like Silent Hill 2 has. I still get scared by it today. No other horror really scares me. Im very pleased that vinny is playing it.
Maybe it hasn't aged the best in a lot of ways, but the fact I can go back to anything Silent Hill 2 related and still feel the overall discomfort it made me feel when I first played is probably a testament to how well it was done.
@@SwordfighterRed it aged great only thing people would complain about today is graphics, sound design is still very very good and story telling, the voice acting is suppose to sound like this james sounds out of it emotionally
@@SwordfighterRedI really hate the "it aged" argument or whatever in video games.. like DUH, time passes, things get older and technology develops. I really think people should seriously stop with that. It's kinda weird. It aged fine anyhow. 3 did as well.
But yeah it still evokes the same feelings even 2 decades later.
First off, hell yeah, and second off, getting this game to run on windows 10 is a nightmare. It's 5 CDS, needs a cracked exe to not require a CD in the drive to play, needs a directx fix because every game before directx 9 breaks now, requires mods to be able to play in windowed mode, requires mods to fix the lighting and shadows, requires mods to get the fog to work correctly, requires mods to run in widescreen (despite having widescreen settings in the menu?), and this is no longer a problem, but last time I set it up you needed to disable hardware acceleration or else audio just wouldn't work. Worst part is this is all just lack of backwards compatibility. If you have a Windows XP machine the game runs natively with no issues.
Most older games without modern re-releases are fucking nightmares now.
King's Quest 5
which begs the question: why not VM?
And that's still worth all the trouble than playing the fucking HD Collection.
I mean... I spent like 15 minutes and get everything. It's way easier now than in the last 4 years.
And there's always the option to run in a VM
I hope the SH fans at twitch don't remain too salty throughout this playthrough, but you gotta understand a lot of them had a hammer taken to their scrotum by Konami at this point so they're fucking RAVENOUS. Glad to see you're enjoying this so far, but one thing you might want to keep in mind is the big parts of the game are gonna be indoors like the apartments rather than outside. I know the apartments drag because of that but they do manage to keep it interesting later.
Resonating Rooms.
"a lot of them had a hammer taken to their scrotum"
I winced when I read this
Too be fair the silent hill fanbase has always been crazy
This lore is insane
SH fans are nuts.
Some of them can't accept these games haven't aged as well as they think and lash out at any criticism too.
They're mad because the games aged like shit, Konami farmed many of the games to different studios, and then killed the only interesting project to happen with the IP because pachinko.
Who is here after his SH1 playthrough?
@Guntapotamus McGunterson no need to be a dick
Vinny baffles me sometimes. One minute he's running in circles in an empty room watching the paint dry, the next he's rolling around at the speed of sound ignoring everything in his path, including one of the most memorable moments of the game.
Don't get me wrong, I'm loving this playthrough, but for some reason that one moment just really rustled my jimmies
Yeah, I understand what you mean... that's games for you though. Since the player has control of the perspective most of the time in most games, it's inevitable to miss things. Well that's the beauty of second playthroughs I suppose.
I cannot solve this riddle. My meat brain doesn't always make sense to my meat self either.
I still love you binyot, no matter how much i nitpick
haha rustled my jimmies
*YOU DARE DEFY THE THE WORDS OF THE MIGHTY JIMMY*
I bet vinny would absolutely love deadly premonition for a sunday stream. Such a weird game
“FK, in the coffee.”
The sinners sandwich!
@@lastfirstborn2 Can of the pickles
"Do your hear that, Zach?"
Actually, Vin's being relatively respectful of the cutscenes. It's cool to make jokes and talk about them after but being quiet and LISTENING to them is super important imo.
69th like wheres my prize
Let's keep it at 69
Richard Hawkins well your opinions are dogshit.
Is this that game based on that cool pachinko game?
It's like one of those Japanese animes.
2023 rewatch time? 2023 rewatch time.
spoiler for silent hill 2: Dumbledore is the last jedi.
He is gonna get the bad ending because he didn't go to "my house"
James Sunderland gets killed by his son, Kylo Ren.
To save Mary ,James must go destroy the Umbrella underground lab, so Regina drops the rocket launcher to kill Pyramid head
oh you dickhead, i just got to that part too, you ruined it!
Goddammit. Now I can't watch any further. You guys should really think about consequences, damn.
1:53:56 Those are some high quality emesis sounds holy shit
There was a Vinny Plays Silent Hill 2 shaped hole in my heart. It's gone now.
The voice acting isn't bad so you don't need to use the "It's a PS2 game" excuse.
SH2's cast were specifically picked to sound like real people and not like video game voice actors and a lot of their quirks and speech pattern are intentionally and extremely deliberate, can't say why without spoiling it but it makes sense by the end of the game.
Really? It has the opposite effect. They sound incredibly fake and uncanny. It seems like one of those bad horror B movies, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Dead Rising had the same shtick.
I think it has both effects, really bad, and somewhat realistic for the universe and area it takes place in, or well, i have no idea
There are issues with the script (ie the translation of the script into english, such as the infamous "How can you sit there and eat pizza!" line) for sure but I think people get the "fake and uncanny/badly acted" impression because people are so used to what video game voicing acting sounds like.
Usually you either have the TV/Theatre style, more common nowadays where they mo-cap and record dialog at the same time, or the more anime/dub style which is someone in a recording booth, that's overly expressive to make up for animation, that's where you tend to hear grunts and noises when people are suppose to emote.
Silent Hill 2 and 3/4 to some extent, cast actors who they felt were the characters, to the point their character models are based off the actors and they did all the mo-capping and weren't directed to "act" their dialog and scenes. I'll admit it's jarring at first, because you don't see a lot of voice acting done to this depth.
James's voice for example, is suppose to convey he's emotionally distanced himself from his reality and feelings, Angela is suppose to convey her trauma (details would be spoilers) and how uncomfortable she is socially. She's also physically aged beyond her years and is infact 16 or under, which is why some of her dialog sounds childish.
There's more details I could do into with James, Angela and the other characters but it would spoil everything, but after Vinny's done playing, it's highly recommended to look up the "Making of Silent Hill 2" which goes super deep into the symbolism, design of characters (like Angela's being aged) and all that stuff or heck, even play the game for yourself, a lot of the dialog and scenes make sense more once you have the full context of the story.
If you want fake, hokey B horror voice acting, that's Resident Evil, or Silent Hill 1, if you compares those to this game you'll hear the different in that style of recording.
Or look up the new voices in the Silent Hill HD collection where they dubbed it like anime and removed all the subtlety and subtext behind all the dialog and delivery, Twin Perfect did a 2 part video of how fucked the HD collection is but part 2 goes into the new voices specifically and how they are objectively worse.
I can understand why people feel that way and the dialog isn't perfect my any means, some scenes are worse then others and the first exchange between James and Angela is super jarring without the full context of who those characters are.
I'm fine with a lot of it being to taste, if you're someone who say, enjoys MGS voice acting the most (not to knock MGS I love those games) and that's the kind of acting you want, then yeah Silent Hill 2-3 voice acting sounds off by comparison, I guess the main thing to ask if to give it a chance and not assume it's bad for the start and see how you feel by the end of the game.
Hmm I can see what they were going for but it didn't work out if it was supposed to sound like real people. The voice direction is pretty bad just going off what I've seen here. If it makes sense later though I'm open to it
For some reason the main character reminds me of young beardless Vinny from his old videos
I want Vinny saying "This is my psychological hell, I love it here" as Tommy Wiseau to be my ringtone.
I was passively watching the stream and enjoying myself until Vinny yelled "JAMIE"
Thats my name and for a short moment I jumped and got freaked out. Spooptober indeed
"JAMIE WERE IS YUR MATHER!?"
Pull that up Jamie!
Best narrative video game of all time.
Silent Hill 2 is completely separate from the others, but 1 and 3 are directly related while 4 kinda requires knowledge about the first game to make total sense.
I'm happy to see you playing and enjoying my childhood. As you were you crazy diamond.
didn't know you watched him too :)
The Silent Hill I got introduced to was Silent Hill 4. That game was totally cracked out and gave me the creeps. It was the best
Acting 10/10
Chat: "Wow Vinny take SH2 seriously its a serious horror experience!"
Also SH2: *has an ending where a dog is controlling the whole experience*
THIS. I mean, dude, as a rabid fan myself, I don't get the gatekeeping that the rest of the fan base seems to have over this one.
@@Havokwreakeryeah...yeahhhhh. kinda sucks being in a Fandom sometimes when you have to try and explain you're not like the others. 🥲 this game series means a LOT to me too but I definitely wouldn't ruin somebody else's ability to experience or enjoy it by taking THEIR run so seriously FOR them. That's just sad af..
If he keeps popping those Health Drinks as often as he has been, he's going to end up with another Cry of Fear situation.
Eh. SH2 isn't _that_ stingy with health items, in my experience, and as thorough as Vinny's being, he's probably not going to go wanting.
On the other hand, his incessant need to murder all the horrors he sees will probably offset that. It'll be interesting to see.
Yeah, and I don't want to spoil anything for anyone else here, but the next indoor area could lead to some inventory issues. I'm not trying to sound condescending to his game play, since it is his first time, but it won't be great for anyone if he runs out of ammo and health drinks. Maybe someone could hint that fighting is optional in most cases.
I'm sure he'll be fine. The whole inventory softlock debacle to the point of having to acquire a save to proceed in Cry of Fear would've probably gave him some ideas on how not to screw up item management.
@@KnightofDarkSorrow this game is designed to let you know how the combat works and how gunfire is just to drop them and finishing them a la Isaac Clarke.
Hell the first encounter is all about teaching the slow combat.
If Vinny didn't catch it he has issues
Honestly, I love how you've approached this game.
I hope with my whole heart Vinny likes this and he can proceed directly to 4, since it has continuities from 2 he can catch some cameos and because 4 is still legit horrific and legit hilarious.
I hope he'd go back and do 1 first, then 3 and 4.
Jasper: "Soooo thiiiirrrrsssstyyy.....Chocolate...oh... Chocolate."
Henry: 👁👄👁
@@Havokwreaker_5 minutes later_
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 *"AHHHHHHHHHUGGHhhhhgghAghhhh"* 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nothing beats the Mario Party Wiggler spoop!
Bowsette porn spoops.
Horror game of the year.
OwO
@@MelodyOo whatsoever is this
I love how James very calmly asks Eddie "Who's that dead guy in the kitchen?"
How could he sit there and eat pizza?
some times it's easy to miss things like certain scares and stuff, like just before he entered the room with the body in front of the tv. i'd say he should just play it and have a little fun with it at his own pace. i think maybe the silent hill games are games you have to play a couple times really to soak up all the details and stuff
At least three times
Why does any of that bother you though
this is gonna be great
This isn't Undertale, all the endings are good in their own way and SH fans respect that. You get what you earn.
you are mostly correct, nebbys, but there's always a few guys who are gonna be like
(spoilers) (seriously don't read this vin)
"look at the knife" or "look at the photo" or do this or don't do that, i've noticed a particular favoritism for the 'in water' ending in the fanbase
@@YARGGG_GGthat's because a lot of people consider it the canonical ending, for what it's worth. 😅
3:32 Yeah this music is VERY twilight princess right here
Ad some twinkling and you got a convincing twilight theme
I love reliving the trauma of watching twin peaks as a kid in the form of a videogame
Ayy Vinny is playing my fave game, sure hope he likes it
The very obscure names on this site, I love them.
Chat was backseat gaming so hard in this first part it’s actually crazy.
I think Vinny has seen "The Room" so many times. He probably dreams about the movie every night.
hell yeah
Man I'm glad the Enhanced Edition is literally just an installer these days. It's come so far lmao, if anyone's reading this who's interested in playing it, check it out!
Does it require a pc game disk?
Yes! Thanks for playing this vinny. Was very exited for it tbh.
"Voice acting's shit" - said by a chat member. Ah yes, I always love to hear more insane people giving opinions. Gives me so much hope for the future of humanity.
look at the way people are reacting to the remake voice acting lol. casual fans never change
The way he was trying to attack the Lying monster at 34:38 is fucking hilarious xd. Looks like James was trying to swat a fly away or some shit.
Angela acts like she's at the transitional comedown point of an intense psychedelic drug trip and she doesn't quite remember how to be a person yet.
Binyorp finally plays Quiet Mountain
Noiseless Nob
soundless mound
Mute Dirtpile
Inaudible Elevation
Hushed Butte
Ahhhh imagine my biggest disappointment when I see Vinny missing one of the best moments in the game at 1:28:10. Dammit Vinny.
Really enjoyed the first part of this (first thing I've been too impatient to wait a day for the full sauce, watched the vod on twitch), really good start. ^^ Glad Vinny's first impression of the game is good too.
I like how he reaches for the key with just his arm and goes "damn too far away" when he literally has a long sticklike object he could use to pull the key towards him
I'm a simple man. I see silent hill 2 and I immediately check the vid description to see if they say the thing
*"Leon?"* lol I cracked right there
19:30 Have a feeling that the chat was trying to manipulate the ending.
I played this years ago and LOVED it. I've tried to play a couple others since then and they didn't seem nearly as good as this. I was really drawn into the world. Was only sad I didn't get answers I wanted.
1, 2, 3, and 4 all enjoy leaving some things up to imagination/interpretation. 3 is personally my favourite, it's all a matter of what struck a chord with you the most and sucked you in.
This is my first time watching a playthrough of this game, and honest to god I know what people mean with how the voice acting adds to it. The part where the woman almost stabbed James was really good, they both sound drugged and off and our of it. That mixed with the "What? what did you say?" type dialogue, fucking awesome lol
Like the town their in literally makes their minds fogged and fuzzy
Christmas and Halloween came early
Is it too early in 2021 to rewatch this stream series? Naaaaah.
As creepy as this is, what cracks me up is seeing him bonk the monster over the head like some sort of cartoon skit. 30:53
The voice actor (if I recall right) for James (Guy Cihi), mentioned that they had no context or preview when recording lines for Silent Hill 2. I think Guy said that years later he saw what Silent Hill 2 looked like for the first time.
A literal paycheck to him.
Yeah, a similar thing happened to the voice actor of kellog from fallout 4.
lasarousi oh no, how dare he. A voice actor doing his job? What a piece of shit. Unforgivable. He should have done it for the passion and not for the money, because that’s what having a job is.
"THE GAME DOESN'T EXPLAIN!"
The little monsters that click and scuttle around really fast on the ground are kind of cute in a disturbing kind of way
The "hit the road Jack"-moment caught me completely off-guard and made me laugh out loud. Thanks Vin!
HELL YEAH
I've waited for this moment for so long.
It's my favorite game in the series, so be damn sure you gonna like it :)
This is fantastic, been waiting for this forever.
OMG! Absolutely stoked that Vinny is playing this game!
*'The real silent hill was the friends we made along the way'*
Jamie returned to Silent Hill to find his dead wife's secret cookie recipe because his power levels were getting low.
I hope he plays sh3 after this ❤️
I played 2 then 3 after and I think that was a mistake because there's references and continuation from the first game that I missed. It's better if you go in game order of 2, 1 then 3
You are right. probably he should play 1 but regardless i hope he continues with sh after this one
The best survival horror game of all time, and it's yet to be topped for me.
Same. 3 is right after this one for me
Me: Oh, nice! One of my favorite streamers is going to play my favorite game. I hope he enjoys the story and gets involved wi-
Binyot: Did I just skip a cutscene trying to pause the game?
i feel like 60%+ of the issues James runs into could be solved by just using the beating stick... and not like, looking for a six pack of juice
I was looking for a playthrough of silent Hill 2 by some CZcamsr I knew.
Ding ding, Vinny is the first I knew.
I am ready to be spooked.