Bang Olufsen Beosound Balance, Level and Emerge speakers with a TV - Yes, it CAN be done! [4K]
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Bang & Olufsen fans, your journey starts here! Steve from SoundsHeavenly.com explains how to use @bangolufsen 's latest smart speakers Beosound Balance, Level and Emerge with any brand of TV, without an audio delay.
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Steve from SoundsHeavenly.com explains how to use B&O's latest smart speakers Beosound Balance, Level and Emerge with any brand of TV, without an audio delay. You can see the Powerlink to Emerge/Level/Balance cable mentioned in the video here to connect a classic B&O music system to your smart speakers: soundsheavenly.com/music-output/177-2544-powerlink-to-beosound-level-emerge-balance-stage-core-edge-shape-cable-link-your-bo-audio-system-to-your-new-speaker.html#/2-length-1m
Clear, lucid and informative - that B&O don't harness the passion, enthusiasm, and knowledge you and John, for example, on a full-time basis for customers is detrimental to the Brand.
Thanks!
Cheers Steve again for highlight the unobvious
All the best Simon
Thanks Simon!
As usual, very interesting with professional advises 👍
Thank you!
Steve you are an absolute legend… 👍🏻💯
Thanks!
Works perfect!
Excellent, good to hear that!
Great video Steve thank you, very helpful for the small Mozart speakers!
I’m a London based installer and am continuously installing beolab 28s where people are asking them to work with their LG or Sony TVs etc, but still be able to use their normal tv remote to adjust the volume, I’m desperate to see your video on how you would achieve this, as we’re still trying to figure out the best method! Hope you can help :)
Thanks for your kind words! The Beolab 28 video will follow very soon...
@@soundsheavenly looking forward to it!
Thanks a lot for this excellent video !!!! It increased my probability for maybe getting a "Mozart" pair for my office.
I use a traditional B&O speaker (old Powerlink) 5.1 setup via an Almando decoder together with a Beosytem 2500, Airport Express (Airplay) and cheap Philips 4k TV (for ambient light) + AppleTV 4K 2ndgen for my living-room. But since I also recently put a tiny Homepod mini in the same room, I'm amazed how often I just use this - convenience / Apple integration wins (in my case playing music directly on the HomePod). And I'm very worried with B&O's apparent focus/advertising on Google,... support, when I don't need or even want it. Apple ecosystem convenience made me decide for AirPods Pro instead of H95 (and giving away my H9i) and kept holding me back on buying an Emerge pair so far. I'm waiting if Apple might revive its HomePod for one more year, since B&O seems to have too much of a non-Apple focus. Having your open/independent view helps a lot!!!!
Thanks, glad the video was helpful! These are great speakers and they work well with Apple products via AirPlay
Like you I am totally in the Apple eco-system and I like it very much. Around my house I have six full size HomePods and I love them. Those aren't made anymore and I think I will migrate to B & O stuff in the future, I totally love the B & O A9 for example, however if B & O were more integrated with the Apple eco-system it would be more appealing.
Airport Express is a good way to link any B&O speakers into the Apple ecosystem, I can help with cables!
Great info Steve. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Steve@@soundsheavenly I have just bought a Beosound balance and thought I may be able to connect the optical out of my TV to the device. Is that possible? In which case what connectors do I need and do you have an option for that?
@@utubeser1Sorry but that isn't possible, as you will get an audio delay when using the line or optical input of the Balance, so the TV sound will be out of sync with the picture
i have an update, if you use an nvidia sheild tv pro you can set up lip sync, and even better still (in my case) using an Oled LGtv optical out to Balance the lag was reduced to almost usable levels, but fine tuning was availible in the tv audio settings to get it perfect
Thanks, that is good to know!
@@soundsheavenly cheers, and theres also a big jump in audio quality from my pc using optical, before i was using hdmi to tv then bluetooth from tv to Balance, now i'm using hdmi to tv and optical from tv to Balance, downside i cant use my tv remote to control volume, so i have to use the app, but the plus sides make this the best option i have found so far, and one more slight downside, cds that i had ripped in the past, i can hear they are not the best audio quality now so i will have to rip them again with better bitrate :P
It isn't something I'd want to do as I don't have a TV, but it was interesting anyway, thank you!
No problem, glad it was interesting!
Hi steve, thanks for a great video…
Currently, i already use beostage as a soundbar on my samsung the frame TV which is connect through hdmi cable to the separate source system on that tv and it good works on that setup without delay anymore.
as we know that the source system on the frame samsung tv already have HDMI Arc, so i have an idea to add more speaker to do a surround system then i trying to buy beosound emerge.. the question is.. does the beosound emerge will possible to connect the source through HDMI Arc on the tv source system?
If there’s impossible do you have any idea to connect the beosound emerge to do a surround system?
Glad you like the video L I am sorry but you can’t add any other speakers to the Stage, it is a stand alone speaker only. Emerge doesn’t connect via HDMI, the only option would be an Airplay link via an Apple TV 4K
I recently bought a Beosound Level and trying to follow your instructions to use it with my Apple TV 4k 3rd gen and a Samsung TV. While the Apple TV does let me choose the Level as a "temporary audio output", it seems Apple removed the ability to use any speaker other than the Homepod as a "default audio output". And despite using the e-arc connection on my tv, I don't see any e-arc options in the Apple TV menu. I'm wondering if only Homepod enables the e-arc settings now, or if a change in the tvOS software simply handles it automatically now and "hides" it from the menus. Would love to hear more about this if anyone has more info!
Apple appears to have made changes to their software since I made the video, I think that they only allow HomePods to be set as permanent speakers for Apple TV, other Airplay speakers need to be set up each time they are used
Thanks Steve. Does this mean I need to connect both HDMI and HDMI/ARCT to the Apple TV and TV?
Only the HDMI ARC connection is needed to link the Apple TV to the TV. This allows the TV audio to be sent to the Apple TV, so it can be sent wirelessly to the speakers.
Thanks for another great video. Does this also apply to the Beosound 1? Can I use two Beosound 1 for Airplay 2, Apple TV stereo?
Glad the video was helpful! Yes, Beosound 1 uses an older software platform than Emerge or Level, but you can still stereo pair two Beosound 1 for wireless music via the B&O app
@@soundsheavenly Thanks for the quick respond! I think I might try that. Hopefully they won't get too much delay if I use them for TV-shows and sports (instead of buying a soundbar) :)
If you use the latest Apple TV 4K 2nd generation on a tv with an HDMI ARC socket then you can stream the tv audio via Airplay 2 without a delay
Is there any workaround to use a pair of balance, level or emerge as a rear surround sound speaker for the new Beosound Theatre?
Sorry Jeff, no there isn't at present. B&O are working on a software update to make this possible, but they say it could be up to a year away.
Thanks Steve, great content as usual. By the way, is it possible to use the Apple TV, then Beosound Stage as front, and Beosound Level at the rear to do a surround setup. If yes, that will be a great system with cool flexibility. Thanks
Thanks! Unfortunately this options only works for stereo sound to two speakers, I don't know of any way to expand it to extra speakers.
@@soundsheavenly thanks Steve for the speedy reply. I am checking in some of the surround splitter as well. Do you have any experience on ALMANDO or the likes? This looks like a solution
@@VII_PILLARS_ENTERTAINMENT Sorry I don't know about any Almando products, but I can help with cables for any solution via my website at soundsheavenly.com
Hi Steve great vid, does this method apply to connecting a TV to the Beoplay A9 MK4. Ie could I connect an apple TV into the hdmi arc of my TV and then stream the audio from the TV to the A9 MK4 via airplay without an audio delay ? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give
Thanks! Yes, the latest Apple TV 4K 2nd gen should work well for the A9 4th gen over AirPlay
Steve, I have a question. Is the Same possible on a Apple TV connected to a beamer trought HDMI? the AirPlay streaming For My B&o speakers. :)
Hi, as long as the projector has an HDMI ARC socket then this should work.
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But the latency still exists, no? I have to assume that the AirPlay setup simply introduces latency compensation, thus putting things back in sync - which sounds great for TV/film, but wouldn't work for live applications (e.g. games).
You are correct,Airplay compensates for the latency so it isn't a problem during movies, however, you can't use Airplay effectively for live applications such as gaming or karaoke, as these cannot be compensated for while playing live.
@@soundsheavenly Awesome stuff. Thanks! A couple follow ups 1) Does the content have to be playing through Apple TV (e.g., though Apple TV's Netflix app and not the Netflix app on whatever smart TV it is hooked up to.) 2) Do you think hooking up an over the air tuner like HDHomeRun then using the Channels app in Apple TV would be a way to watch live content without lag?
Hi Steve,
Currently Apple does not allow third party wireless speakers to be set as default speakers, and Homepods are necessary to enable ARC on Apple TV. So I think with your method, ARC connection is neither utilized nor required, and the speakers cannot play from other sources that are connected to the TV… or am I missing something? I’m trying to setup the speakers for my parents to watch satellite channels, and it seems it’s impossible to enable ARC on Apple TV with my pair of Emerges.
Hi, this was possible when the video was recorded, but I know that Apple does make regular changes to their software so it may not work on current Apple TV software...
Oh I see. Shame on Apple 😢 Thank you anyways!!
Thanks! How can I connect à TV with a beosound level ?
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Only wirelessly via Airplay, the same as explained in this video.
Merci beaucoup 👍🏻
What about from a computer? Audio streaming does not matter if there is a lag or not, but watching CZcams or other videos you can not adjust the lag. A movie played using VLC can adjust the lag. I have done this because of the lag using uPnP with a pair of wi-fi/bluetooth speakers but had to guess at the parameter.
Watching this on a laptop to a pair of Emerge speakers has more than a second lag. The Levels are the same.
To set up on the laptop the Emerge and Level show as devices (wifi) but to use as a sound device need to connect via bluetooth.
The desktop does not see either pair as devices and without bluetooth cannot make that connection.
Yes, that is a good option, I use VLC for playing movies on my PC and this works very well
I re-visited using the Emerge and Level for surround from the computer using analogue inputs. Level as front and Emerge as rear channel using RCA to 3.5mm cables. VLC dialled for the 330ms lag and set up for 4 speakers instead of the normal 6 channels I normally use. At normal listening levels very pleased with the quality and how they do work together. The Emerge, being used as rear speakers frequently beeped at me as if reconnecting. The line level dropped out and switched to Google Assist. As this was occurring every few minutes I suspect that when there was no rear channel audio the speakers switch out and sometimes not reconnecting. Whilst using VLC to control the lip sync issues it drifts during a movie and drops back to zero when going onto another video clip. The Chrome browser extension to do the same to control the lip sync auto-adjust for 300ms lag in the tool but then does nothing when watching CZcams. I don't have HDMI eARC on my monitors, not even the 65"touch panel.
Autumn of 2022 one of B&O rivals in the life style systems market have a €14,000 five custom speaker surround system and an expensive box of electronics. Wireless and still cheaper than four Beolab 20, a centre and sub. Emerge, Level, Balance are so close to working with video source material, give more flexibility than larger wired in systems, lower cost and wireless. B&O and other manufacturers are not looking at customer's needs. This might be a niche market but equally because of costs; both in terms of money and having six speakers set up for watching movies. The small life style speakers could be used around the house by different family members and simply brought together for movie night. I wouldn't do that with Beolab 18 or 28 too much weight to move around.
As much as B&O claim now that it can't be done it is still most likely an issue of software development. Over a year ago they suggested that they could be used with a TV, in 3 and 5 channel with future software upgrades. As more people are using computers and laptops as the source of their entertainment speakers need to be able to fully work with them out of the box.
Thanks for your detailed response, I agree that the planned B&O update to allow Emerge and Level to work as surround speakers is critical to getting the full potential from these speakers. I hope that they will get this ready quickly so that we can reliably use them in home cinema setups
My daughter has an iPhone. She selected Airplay. A list of found devices showed Emerge and Level speakers. Her phone has Bluetooth switched off. She was able to select the speakers and play a CZcams video and video file without any lip sync issue and no setting up. I don't have an iPad or Mac to test. As the Windows Laptop and desks top can not cast from Windows Media Player or Chrome browser without a lag regardless of adjustment tried what is Apple Airplay doing on an iPhone that Windows is not able to do?
This could explain why a Mac laptop user didn't find an issue with lip sync. I don't have a TV and noting I have has HDMI ARC or eARC but I do have a spare display port which a CYP debedder converts to 8 channel analogue audio. I don't see how Apple 4K TV or Chromcast device could be used with my computer as source showing on the computer screen over display port/HMDI. I am not able to switch all my hardware and software to Apple MAC versions and I still do not know if an Airplay MAC could do surround with Emerge, Level and Balance in 4 or 6 channel combinations.
Airplay doesn’t give surround sound but it is fine for wireless stereo sound to two speakers only. I don’t use Chromecast due to poor audio quality and audio delays
But most sourround Sound processors has the apatunity to set the delay for each speakers, or akustisk the distance.
Yes, but they can usually only delay sound by up to 12 metres or 40mS. These speakers give a delay of 550mS which no receivers can account for.