Legacy Conversations - André Odendaal - 5 Recce Selection 1987
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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2023
- Andre started his national service with 31 Battalion, a light infantry battalion in the South African Army and SWATF. In this episode, André Odendaal tells us about his experiences during selection to Special Forces, 5 Recce, 1987. Another episode will speak of his time in the Israeli Army. f you have questions, leave them below. Please subscribe for more episodes and click the "bell" to be informed.
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The wall is part of the Oliphant obstacle coarse. I will never forget the Oliphant. Salute
Thank You, Andre, for sharing your story
1.22 is so very real, yes it was indeed a weird time. I spent many years in the Caprivi, from Katima to MPatcha and all over, it was crazy with wildlife,in total I had 9 years operational border war time and proud of that today, medals etc, I was proud nobody will understand who has never walked in our shoes and what it is to be scared everyday, but being scared keeps you sharp. Good footage here, while I train in the morning on the machine I listen to 25 minute clips till the end. Thanks, look up to you. I wish you all the best in your life.
Thanks Andre and Andrew
the most awaited 2nd episode...lived up to all expectations. Amazing story Andre , thanks for sharing. I was Ops medic 1990 , the war wa sover but still anm excellent year. The training in Ops prepared my phenominally when in later life i became a doctor....and that took me toi another 70 countries each with an amazing story
@christopherherbari - come and tell us your story, dr, Koos
Sounds like we should be listening to your stories!
I learn so much from these talks. Loved your comment about motivation and preparation. Exactly what I’m now struggling with in my career. This helps thanks.
Thank you for a cerebral, thoughtful and detailed perspective which I found very interedting indeed! It contributes immensely towards the legacy Koos is creating with SASF participants. I am struck by your demeanour: calm, humourous, measured in your response and self-effacing. Seems consistent with how I experienced most of the other operators on this channel. The added dimension and challenge of ex- MK cadres participating in the training during the 'dark phase' of the selection course is almost too ghastly to contemplate. Nevertheless, the SADF was a very diverse, progressive and forward-looking professional organisation, just way ahead of the society it was serving at the the time as you and others have correctly remarked upon.
Thanks, appreciate the feedback!
To be exposed to men of valor is just stunning, thank you for this channel, well done🦾
Hi Andre!!! It is my immense pleasure to see you again after so many years, also to know that you are doing well. It was a great achievement to be in the final eight to start the cycle - well done. 150+ then 29, then 8, then... I hope you remember my peanut butter and sand sammies at the range - i think that day we were busy with the firing movement. Your 31 Bn. badge stuck in mind for ever, and one more thing: you were always hungry. I recall the "windgat" young Lt with many stories about the bushmen tracking etc. - I mean this with the greatest respect and reminisce the good old days with the great fonder and nostalgia. We were then supper fit and young united with the same objective, and this is what I miss in my life the most - I think I'm not alone.
Contact me at 4xsamil@gmail.com so Andre can speak to you, Koos
@@LegacyConversations Thank you Koos.
Outstanding
Thanx Andre. Really enjoy your perspective. Would like to hear more of your operations as an operator. Respect
That’s coming together with his stint in the Israeli army
It sounds like the course changed a lot with Infantry running the course. MK running a course??? This sounds like a very strange course. Thanks for the story, I was wondering what it would have been like in 87 and onwards.
Saluut! Was saam met jou Jan 87 op die bluff. Die pennie het gedrop vir my, die oggend voor die menasie toe hulle daardie ou kom haal he met die ambulans. Dit was n ander kultuur in die basis.
Andre made mention of how commando structures operated during the Boer War. Anyone who wishes to understand where some of the attitude, resilience and can-do spirit as South Africans come from, should do themselves a very big favour and read Deneys Reitz’s trilogy called “Adrift on the open veld”.
Commando, is one of my favorite books
Are they still in print? I recall Commando too, fantastic story, Koos
Koos, Google search is showing quite a few options in terms of availability although I’m not sure when the last reprint was. In my career wanderings across Africa as a geologist and subsequently as drilling contractor I came across many ex-military men who were rising to the challenges of sustaining a livelihood. One of these was a quiet, unassuming ex-commanding officer of 4 Recce who demonstrated all the professional traits alluded to by Andre.
I am re-reading Commando for about the 3rd time now. Utterly visceral account of a most brutal war. @@AndreOdendaal1
Salute / Saluut.
Andre have you considered writing a detailed book of you time in the various military units? oyu can put me down for a copy 🖐
Thanks for the kind words! Perhaps!
Definitely need to write a book@@AndreOdendaal1
As Andre said, many of the people who did National service after university got utilized in their technical fields. I studied computer science and a lot if us ended up in places like Infoplan (computer services division of Armscor). I want to Personnel Services School for basics in Jan 1984 then Army HQ working on developing experimental computer systems. Our basics was very easy. No rondvok.
I shot 5 rounds in my whole army career.
I think while that was the case, those that went to do National service directly from school, but later studied, it was not the case.
I for e.g studied after national service and qualified as a chartered accountant. I was still utilized as a rifleman doing camps after I qualified
@@andrewwhitaker7313 certainly the utilization of skills people developed after school in camps was very poor. I ended up in a tank unit. I got exemption from most of my camps because I worked mainly for military contractors nbut on the one camp I did go on I ended up being a clerk sorting out pay problems etc. Passed me off no end as it cost me an extra year to finish of my honors degree I was doing part time.
@@andrewwhitaker7313@cccmmm1234: rondfok was a bloody pain!dont know if it’s still done
Who was the OC at 31 at that time, thanks...
J J
When is the final story at 5 Recce?
End of January 2024, Koos
Hello SAW
Tx Koos ,Andrew
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