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  • @RealVisionFinance
    @RealVisionFinance  Před 4 lety +3

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    • @adamchilds9132
      @adamchilds9132 Před 4 lety

      Brilliant video thank you very much could you please show me where I can maybe extrapolate the data from so I can reproduce all of those charts.

  • @danijelsan81
    @danijelsan81 Před 8 lety +117

    Thanks for sharing your intellectual capital so generously.

    • @RealVisionFinance
      @RealVisionFinance  Před 8 lety +23

      Our pleasure - Real Vision stands for getting this kind of information out into the open. There's way more at www.realvisiontv.com

    • @theseviolentdelightz
      @theseviolentdelightz Před 7 lety +1

      How does this ISM correlation correlate with "reccession proof" industries? Specifically, it seems we're leading into a recession, but the marijuana industry in North America is booming.

    • @fullofhope2222
      @fullofhope2222 Před 4 lety

      @@RealVisionFinance Charles Nenner is 'a cycles man' - I ve been following him but I dont understand. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Luftwaffe_x
    @Luftwaffe_x Před 8 lety +47

    Best invested 40 min of my time today. Thank you!

    • @RealVisionFinance
      @RealVisionFinance  Před 8 lety +8

      Our pleasure - if you feel like investing more time with a damn high ROI, take a look at more of the long-form videos at www.realvisiontv.com
      There's more of Raoul, plus Jim Rogers, Kyle Bass, John Burbank, Hugh Hendry ... the list goes on ...

  • @noneofyourbusiness5433
    @noneofyourbusiness5433 Před 8 lety +21

    "Hope you found this useful" Ah...yeah mate I did. I tip my hat to you good sir. I could listen to you all day, fascinating stuff. 26 years of study and expertise distilled into a short video. You're a good man Raoul.

  • @systemloading45
    @systemloading45 Před rokem

    I would absolutely suggest every retail investor to watch and understand this thoroughly. This is true investing, not technical analysis or all those scams out there.

  • @cjsandoval
    @cjsandoval Před 8 lety +6

    These videos are making the world a better place. Thank you!

  • @michaels4255
    @michaels4255 Před 7 lety +1

    This has got to be the single most valuable video on youtube! I have read a couple of books about economic indicators, and a number of serious books (I have lost count) on economics, but I have never seen economic data analyzed in such a revealing manner.

  • @Manu88888
    @Manu88888 Před 7 lety +3

    I can't believe this is free. Learned more in 40 minutes than a whole class in school ahah. Keep up the great work RV and Raoul Pal!

  • @nilstrader9284
    @nilstrader9284 Před 7 lety +2

    It is now the third time that I watch this video and every time I seem to learn something new! Thank you very much

  • @reese1ja
    @reese1ja Před 8 lety +2

    Really accessible for a novice. Thanks for your time and effort putting these videos together.

  • @michael10901
    @michael10901 Před 5 lety +1

    Always appreciate the quality of these conversations & your generosity in making them available to the people

  • @PinkPortraitDesu
    @PinkPortraitDesu Před 8 lety +2

    Amazing. I'm going to need to watch this more than once. Amazingly the things you said about the business cycle and it being cyclical are the same things I had been thinking.

  • @ibrahimturgutcelimli7778
    @ibrahimturgutcelimli7778 Před 8 lety +4

    Thanks a lot for sharing such an invaluable asset, it not only demonstrates what is going on, but also indicates that the tunnel we are living is still lighted by the blindness of FED!

  • @TangoBinAlsheed
    @TangoBinAlsheed Před 4 lety +1

    4 years later, this video aged pretty well. Well done Raoul

  • @simpleforex1299
    @simpleforex1299 Před 5 lety +1

    All comments are thankful for this video

  • @miro2189
    @miro2189 Před rokem

    Thank you very much Sir, really Enlightening and crucial In-depth brilliant Macro and Business cycle analyses. This is why I purchased your Real Vision Essential course. Thank you!

  • @jamesgilmore2389
    @jamesgilmore2389 Před 4 lety

    The best video (tutorial) I have seen on real world economics yet. Thanks.

  • @Rnankn
    @Rnankn Před 3 lety

    A truly exceptional communicator.

  • @nyxdoc2801
    @nyxdoc2801 Před 8 lety +7

    You are the best

  • @GT-hj7ko
    @GT-hj7ko Před 7 lety +1

    Love what you provide, for those that do not have Real Vision I highly recommend it

  • @MultiWolfxxx
    @MultiWolfxxx Před 8 lety +2

    Excellent! Should get more coverage. I Love it.

  • @Kid_Ikaris
    @Kid_Ikaris Před 3 lety +1

    "to try to pretend everything is a science is lunacy" this is one of the best quotes of all time.

    • @theperson3693
      @theperson3693 Před 3 lety

      also the predictions of this video have been one of the most wrong of all time

  • @kirstinstrand6292
    @kirstinstrand6292 Před 5 lety

    This is so brilliant - I look at it every few months to refresh my thoughts about how we are currently doing!

  • @troublemaker9782
    @troublemaker9782 Před 8 lety

    This is by far one of the most educatonal videos I've watched in a long time. If people are smart they will watch it in it's entirety....Thanks for posting this guys

  • @liammulrooney1
    @liammulrooney1 Před 8 lety +4

    Excellent stuff

  • @petesayeer7404
    @petesayeer7404 Před 8 lety

    The thing I really like about you (Raoul) is your humility...it's a rare thing in the financial world. Then, on top of that you know your stuff. I remember seeing you on CNBC about a year and half ago and thought, "I need to find out who this guy is!" Thanks for your work and being so transparent. Next time your in the Chicago area let me know. Love to have a cup of coffee with you. (Or maybe I just visit you in the Caymans...and we can have a rum runner...either way works!) God Bless you...Pete

  • @ocgmbeverlyhills1111
    @ocgmbeverlyhills1111 Před 5 lety +1

    Priceless information!!!
    It would be great to do an update with current data....
    Thank you!!!

  • @MrLebritts
    @MrLebritts Před 8 lety

    Thanks for sharing, makes perfect sense to me.
    In a world full of misinformation, contradictions and false biases from all different media sources this video gives a better way to view macroeconomic forcasts of how and where to find a better return.

  • @Kaalinator
    @Kaalinator Před 8 lety +2

    Very informative. Thanks

  • @roym1444
    @roym1444 Před 2 lety

    Real Vision please do a follow up with more insights this was absolutely unreal .

  • @stephenduncan8292
    @stephenduncan8292 Před 5 lety

    Huge Big Tick - 1. I had some astute & honest teachers in Political Science & Economics who 1. yes: taught the strict curriculum, but 2. dropped hints about 'real world economics', for example the neglected, unfashionable field of behavioural economics (Thorstein Veblen) and other Paradigmatic thinkers eg Joseph Schumpeter's long innovation-investment cycle 3. Pure Math Grad friend said (correctly) "it is invalid to statistically extrapolate outside the original/source data-set" 4. Which is confirmed by BLUE & BUE estimates that are set up in very sophisticated modelling-form but involve very large error terms once the forecast is pushed-out (even for very high R2 & P) 5. For myself I independently found the story of Nikolai Kondratieff (1865-1938) and how his views led to his being purged in a labour camp by the Soviet authorities in 1938. Probably because repetitive/recurrent cyclical models not in sync with the great hope for 'Socialism in One Country' 1917-1945 6. Finally Joseph Clement Juglar, a Fr. physician & statistician discovered the decadal (10 year) business cycle. Which can be quite easily picked-up (with some variation in ea. economy) post WW2 1966, 76, 86, 96, '06 ... '16 (points of inflection ?)

  • @edcuello3773
    @edcuello3773 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Raoul and Real Vision: this is stunning in that it's clear, well thought out, and actionable. You've made a believer out of me and I look forward to subscribing and using your framework.

  • @afordh
    @afordh Před 8 lety +3

    Holy smack, that was epic! Thanks for sharing such priceless information Raoul.

  • @elaineg60
    @elaineg60 Před 8 lety

    Thank you for this and the other fascinating RV videos I've been watching all night! As someone coming from a medical career, who was introduced to the world of finance and trading late last year-and discovering it's not only something I can do as someone disabled and mainly home-bound; I've found myself totally immersed in learning economics and fundamentals of finance-and absolutely LOVING it! Just FYI-here in the US, I attained 2 advanced degrees in Science and Medicine. Not one school required I take more than Econ 100. I've been contacting my former schools to try and explain why that needs to change. We'll see if anything actually happens.

    • @elaineg60
      @elaineg60 Před 8 lety

      I DO have a question though about your and other's predictions of the RESULTS of the insane monetary policy implemented these past 8+ years. While everyone explains the causes and effects; I'm not hearing any viable solutions? In other words, how in the HELL are we going to get ourselves out of this unprecedented mess of debt??!! Personally, I'm currently at the lowest point financially I've been in my adult life; HOWEVER, I have absolutely NO debt what-so-ever, and not because of bankruptcy. One of the reasons I'm in this position is because I paid off my extreme medical & educational, etc. debt-and learned to live very simply. I just don't understand how major economic powers will deal with the amt of debt they have?

  • @robertgomara1272
    @robertgomara1272 Před 6 lety +1

    how'd that forecast work out

  • @killergerbiljeff
    @killergerbiljeff Před 8 lety +3

    Been saying this since 2010!
    Over the past 30 years our economy, and as a result, world economies, experienced the greatest prosperity the world has ever know, all built on the back of debt using the following stimulus.
    *Consumer debt to disposable income doubled from 1980 to 2007, 60% to 125%.
    *Government debt to GDP tripled from 1980 to 2012, 35% to 100%.
    *Interest and mortgage rates dropped by 85%, from 1980 to 2012.
    *Consumers could borrow with little proof of income, from 2004 to 2008.
    As a result, GDP grew by 5.5 times, from 2.7 trillion in 1980 to $15 trillion today.
    World economies, and their consumers have taken debt to their extreme limits. Europe is fast deleveraging, Japan is on the brink at 240% debt to GDP. Our state and local governments are broke.
    NONE OF THESE STIMULUS CAN HAPPEN AGAIN!
    Consumers can not double their debt again.
    Governments can not triple their debt again.
    Interest rates will not drop by 85% again.
    Consumers can not borrow without proof of income again.
    Without these stimulus, GDP can not grow by 5.5 times over the next 30 years again.
    WE MUST NOW LIVE ON WHAT WE EARN.

    • @MarkSass
      @MarkSass Před 4 lety

      Well, here we go again. :)

  • @JoaoLuissonhar
    @JoaoLuissonhar Před 4 lety

    Excelent Raoul

  • @lynnybee888
    @lynnybee888 Před 7 lety +1

    loved this video; thank you for posting it!!

  • @spindillio
    @spindillio Před 5 lety

    Very generous of you to share these insights. Thank you!

  • @kirstinstrand6292
    @kirstinstrand6292 Před 6 lety

    Thank you. Lovely to hear a voice of rational sanity. This has been invaluable in supporting my intuitive understanding of how markets should function, interpreted only on a cyclical basis.

  • @Obylearns
    @Obylearns Před 2 lety

    3:18 (The Secular Cycle)
    6:00 (Long Term Equity Cycle)
    8:32 (Commodities Cycles)
    10:00 (Debt Super Cycle)
    14:07 (Business Cycle)
    15:00 (The ISM)
    22:32 (Forecasting asset prices using the business cycle)
    27:00 (Building a Forecast Framework)

  • @DC-ss2qj
    @DC-ss2qj Před 3 lety

    Thank you!!🙏

  • @jaythizzle1969
    @jaythizzle1969 Před 7 lety +1

    Interesting to revisit this a year later.

  • @markandrefernandez6706

    sir thank you you going to help lots of people with what you are doing thank you

  • @grosjambondeux
    @grosjambondeux Před 8 lety +2

    excellent piece. Government & central bank policies are actually a good way to forecast the ISM, 12 to 18 month in advance.trouble is, with so many stimulus in the pipeline they start losing their efficiency.

  • @forcemajeure1731
    @forcemajeure1731 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for upload

  • @S1mple0bserver
    @S1mple0bserver Před 3 lety

    One of the most educative videos ever!
    Thanks for sharing it.

  • @Higgs000Boson
    @Higgs000Boson Před 5 lety +1

    Would be interesting to see an update for 2019

  • @rayg3074
    @rayg3074 Před 4 lety

    excellent work

  • @gr1iev3r10
    @gr1iev3r10 Před 3 lety

    thank you very much

  • @autum5170
    @autum5170 Před 7 lety

    Very good.....making sense out of something that traditionalist absolutely have wrong. More people like this in our world the less crisis we would have. Thank you Raoul Pal

  • @alexandere3479
    @alexandere3479 Před 8 lety

    great video! thank you so much! unlike sharing money, sharing knowledge only leads to a further expansion of knowledge!

  • @kirstinstrand6292
    @kirstinstrand6292 Před 5 lety

    So very comforting, many thanks...I've been especially concerned about the US buying up all the debt, no one would give me an answer. Now I know why not. We all learn as we grow.

  • @manishtmr
    @manishtmr Před 5 lety

    Can't thank you enough for sharing your learning. God bless you.

  • @yongutsa
    @yongutsa Před 7 lety +1

    I highly respect your generosity to share this video and incredible prudence to enlighten the public rather than to condemn the stupidity of universities and Fed's reckless market manipulating efforts, backed by Ivy league scholars. As you can see in CECI US graph, the distorted market trend by Fed especially during 15 and 16 is obviously clear; as a result, we might continue to experience record high stock market. Unfortunately, what Fed doesn't understand is the fact that manipulation won't help advance of human species at all but rather prevent us from going forward.

  • @DANVIIL
    @DANVIIL Před 8 lety

    Outstanding! Great insights very clearly communicated and no um, uh or so. Much appreciated your content and delivery.

  • @aspencouloir761
    @aspencouloir761 Před 8 lety

    Thanks very much, Raoul.

  • @cechastain8059
    @cechastain8059 Před 8 lety

    great video. As a macro-investor, this has helped me very much. Thank you!!!!!

  • @sk9905
    @sk9905 Před 5 lety +2

    Yet S&P up by 40% since this video on June 20, 2016

    • @nickdore1955
      @nickdore1955 Před 5 lety

      Supreme Trader and do you think it will keep going up with the next GFC around the corner? It’s only getting higher for a bigger fall imo

  • @mattclinton5699
    @mattclinton5699 Před 7 lety

    This was outstanding. Thank you Raoul

  • @chinuind
    @chinuind Před 4 lety

    Excellent video...first time I’ve heard someone discuss Kondratieff since the 2000 bubble

  • @timothydehaan9037
    @timothydehaan9037 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Raoul! I value your expertise

  • @RyanFiore
    @RyanFiore Před 8 lety

    Tremendous educational overview! That's how premium video content should be executed.

  • @LuisDiuk
    @LuisDiuk Před 6 lety

    Raould make more video lectures like this, you have a talent to transmit knowledge, I like a lot to hear your explanations

    • @RealVisionFinance
      @RealVisionFinance  Před 6 lety

      Hi Luis, thanks for watching. Raoul often presents or gives interviews on realvision.com. We have 14-day free trial if you'd like to check out the platform.

  • @harrytd
    @harrytd Před 8 lety

    Brilliant! I agree entirely. Thank you Raoul, very much appreciated.

  • @kikiberlusconi
    @kikiberlusconi Před 3 lety

    Does anybody know where I can get access to those charts? i.e. Long-Term Equity Cycle, OCGMI Composite Super Cycle, Debt Cycle.

  • @Alex-ws5uf
    @Alex-ws5uf Před 7 lety +1

    Nailed-it...

  • @curtissharris8914
    @curtissharris8914 Před 5 lety +1

    That was nice but no recession in 2016 3Q it's now 4Q 2018 ISM 57.7

  • @alabamagroundcoversolution2232

    Would you consider updating this to the end of 2018 and tie in with some of your other observations and beliefs re changing demographics? It would be very illuminating for those of us who do not have your knowledge or experience.

  • @jbfcca
    @jbfcca Před 2 lety

    Update this for 2022 please

  • @jonathanplatt467
    @jonathanplatt467 Před 8 lety

    Great piece Raoul. When you are doing these charts are you looking exclusively at manufacturing? How do you account for the shift of US importance from manufacturing to non-manufacturing and is it significant enough to alter the recession percentages historically? Thank you.

  • @emperor68188
    @emperor68188 Před 7 lety +5

    20:50 "I am bearish on South Korea"
    South Korean stock markets gained 20% since this video...

    • @lioneldsouza3093
      @lioneldsouza3093 Před 6 lety +3

      Doesn't mean he's wrong, bearish people are always early.

    • @cy5806
      @cy5806 Před 5 lety +1

      You are wrong if something rallies over you 20% no matter what.

    • @JM-gu3tx
      @JM-gu3tx Před 5 lety

      depends on the time period. He mentioned that it is the trend, not perfect correlations. @@cy5806

    • @JM-gu3tx
      @JM-gu3tx Před 5 lety

      So? It's the trend, like he mentioned, that is critical. The correlation will never be perfect..

    • @theperson3693
      @theperson3693 Před 3 lety

      @@JM-gu3txDECEMBER 2020 HERE, the trend is that SOUTH KOREA STOCK MARKET is at ALL TIME HIGHS. in a GLOBAL PANDEMIC. lol, that's a trend. i'm suuuuuuure it will crash soon though lol. lol

  • @tibsyy895
    @tibsyy895 Před 6 lety

    Really great channel and content! I am glad I found it!

  • @terabyter9000
    @terabyter9000 Před 3 lety +1

    Didn't turn out right, but still a great video.

  • @lew1523
    @lew1523 Před 7 lety

    fantastic video! thank you for your time! i learned a lot.

  • @erik_1402
    @erik_1402 Před 3 lety

    Raul, I love your insights. Is there an update with actual numbers? Fingers crossed on the Cryptos right now.

  • @javim310
    @javim310 Před 6 lety +2

    July 2018 and still no recession.

  • @blakedshiel
    @blakedshiel Před 6 lety

    Wonderful insights.

  • @JVerstry
    @JVerstry Před rokem

    Real education here...

  • @matthewlang7364
    @matthewlang7364 Před 5 lety

    Thank you

  • @apothekede
    @apothekede Před 8 lety

    Thanks for sharing this amazing stuff!

  • @mikescool
    @mikescool Před 8 lety

    Thanks for sharing. Reminds me of Ray Dalio's investment philosophy as well.

  • @sylviastraderslounge
    @sylviastraderslounge Před 7 lety +1

    Raoul Pal, this is very informative, thank you. I look forward to sharing this as part of my content in a blog post I'm doing on market cycles and Efficient Market Hypothesis if that's alright with you. Let me know, cheers!

  • @mayurpatel2257
    @mayurpatel2257 Před 7 lety

    thanks for sharing, useful to me.

  • @DegenerateSpeculator
    @DegenerateSpeculator Před 8 lety +7

    The ISM appears to trail in a lot of these slides

    • @Brettagher
      @Brettagher Před 7 lety +2

      I thought the same thing. How can you forecast using the ISM if it trails the indicator you're comparing it to?

    • @Cityj0hn
      @Cityj0hn Před 7 lety +4

      The S&P500 actually predicts the ISM too, it's a loop.

  • @sureshkumar-kx2xz
    @sureshkumar-kx2xz Před 4 lety

    What is on the Y-axis at 7:04? Any idea folks?

  • @JasonCWaite
    @JasonCWaite Před 8 lety +1

    Mike Maloney has some great tips on Wealth Cycles if any of you are interested as well. Measuring charts not in dollars and via other currencies and commodities is very interesting. As well, Jim Rogers speaks alot about commodities which might help you in your understanding on cycles. Good luck. Keep investing. :)

    • @doramason
      @doramason Před 8 lety +2

      I was about the write the same thing. Mike has better charts and a he tells it better :) but still this is a good video.

  • @MrAkurvaeletbe
    @MrAkurvaeletbe Před 8 lety +6

    How do you predict price of commodities by looking at ISM chart? The ISM isn't going into the future(/ahead of commodities) so how does one use it to predict anything? Yes you can look at the trends, but the trends are changing and you can't see that in the ISM... Basically my point is, If the chart of ISM generally matches commodities you might aswell just look at the trends in commodities and leave the ISM out of it, no ?

    • @irfan4506
      @irfan4506 Před 8 lety +2

      I had this same question initially, but after reviewing the video again, it seems that by using the complete framework of moving down from the secular cycle, to the business cycle, to the short term cycle, you could use the CESI Index to project which way the ISM is headed in the near term, and use this forecasted ISM level to forecast the YOY change in a given commodity (based on how the ISM levels line up with historical YOY% levels). So say you have an educated guess of the ISM heading towards 50 or so. You could overlay the ISM with the YOY change in some commodity, and see what the change could be when the ISM is around 50 historically, and apply that change to the current price of that commodity and make that your forecast for the next year. That's my guess as to how you could use the ISM for commodity forecasting

    • @abdobe7359
      @abdobe7359 Před 7 lety

      Exactly Irfan Hussain, If you take the copper chart, around 91 period : the ISM crossed 50 and continued higher ( after a long period of decline ) 2 years later the price copper was going higher ( with a delay of 1 year .. 1,5 y ) ... and when the ISM hit around 60 ( a record for a long period ), the price of copper months later hit a higher around 75 -80. the ISM PMI ( among other ) is one of the main leading indicators watched closely by professionals ... more than that, for short term business cycles, you can get qualitative statements in the ISM reports talking about the sectors that doing well and those doing bad, and what they're forecasting + the demand of commodities ( which will affect prices ).

  • @fearlessmetrics8320
    @fearlessmetrics8320 Před 8 lety

    Excellent video, thank you Raoul. Have you ever consider charting presidential election year (voter turn out) cycles in the US and the ISM...that goes a bit more into the behavior side of things; just curious as to how the chart would correlate. My guess would be high turn out pushes for a point of change in the direction or support for continuation of a trend.

  • @B1iztwing
    @B1iztwing Před 8 lety

    Great Video! Is there a website where you can get all this charting info from or do you get it from different sources?

  • @danforthsucker7260
    @danforthsucker7260 Před 7 lety

    Interesting, novel and so much better than the usual which is someone encouraging you to buy what they are selling. But, even in those charts, price seems to be instantly baked in. So, even if casual, how does it help you invest? Seems like price is reflected in whatever your holding or buying before you can move. In other words ISM is a predictor, coincident, or instantaneous effect? Seems like in order to be useful, you would need to predict the ISM with some amount of certainty ahead of time.

  • @LuisDiuk
    @LuisDiuk Před 7 lety

    Thanks for this, I like it

  • @zizzyballuba4373
    @zizzyballuba4373 Před 8 lety

    That fucking ISM is the best thing ever!!

  • @Mike-dr8wx
    @Mike-dr8wx Před 3 lety

    I studied economics for my undergrad and I found myself frustrated for many of the same reasons.

  • @rayg3074
    @rayg3074 Před 4 lety

    you get a A+ today......

  • @cwood9600
    @cwood9600 Před 6 lety

    What mic do you all use for your videos? Great work by the way!

  • @marklockwood9259
    @marklockwood9259 Před 5 lety

    Is it possible to get updated information

  • @Kenayi22
    @Kenayi22 Před 8 lety +1

    Good Presentation Raoul. However; i belong to the school of thought which believes that all fundamental/Economic indicators follow the market because they are all impacted by market trends. This explains why markets turn before every single negative data or even recession... It is no news that Financial system is a source of uncertainty and instability to the real Economy. When theories and models are based on wrong assumptions, false conclusions can often the end results.
    We believe that markets are mathematical, chaotic and to a certain degree fractally predictable. We believe that investors/traders and economic indicators all react to market trend rather than lead it... a big drop in the stock markets for example, impact negatively on investors sentiment - slows down investing activities - negatively impacts manufacturing activities - then bad figures/data which always come last.
    Economic recessions are cyclical ..they come with bear market cycles ..they are embedded in the financial system and cannot be avoided irrespective of corporate performance.

  • @fabgar79
    @fabgar79 Před 8 lety

    Amazing charts and very useful actually. Is it possible to get those?
    Thanks.-

  • @brynjarsigursson6079
    @brynjarsigursson6079 Před 4 lety

    The ISM manufacturing index already hit 46